Tyson I have to say Man you are excellent not only at what you do but in the way you explain everything. Keep it Brother, your helping a great deal of us with your works. Thank you.
Machining is wonderful ...... explaining is great.... Also Dad will be proud of the road you have travelled. Keep it up all of you. Showing what the industry can do . Describing whats going on and being proud of what you do....... it ticks ALL the boxes. Amacf
These modern super CNC machines are simply amazing. My father’s factory had few dozen CNC machines made in Japan and Taiwan. It’s incredible how much these machines have evolved and advanced.
Multi-axis machines provide a high level of CNC manufacturing capabilities and come with several benefits which make them invaluable tools to use. In simple terms, multi-axis machining is a manufacturing process whereby tools can move in 4 or more directions. This technical element helps to provide better surface finishes and quicker production times. CNC programming is made easier though the use of multi-axis CNC machines.
Wow..amazing.so excited to see it..hello..i'm from malaysia..working from zero until become a mastercam 2018 programmer..almost 10years in this industry..when watching your video..wow,i think i only learning just 10%...you all is awesome...i love it...😎😎
@@marnixvlot1868 customers took me out the night before and kept feeding me gin and tonics and jagger bombs. I was hurting. Puked on the side street the office was on before I even got there. Then they wanted to see a spindle transfer. When those two chucks came together, they weren't the only thing spinning 🤢🤢. Those guys weren't in much better shape, though. One guy never made it past the bushes in front of the building 😆
I can't believe 27 people gave this a thumbs down. What's wrong with people. Atleast these people make things happen. Thumbs down on the negativity. Thanks for the video. EM
Just to appease my curiosity, what is the purpose of having the spindles running during the handoff between spindles, I feel like it would be safer if they where stopped, I'm sure there is a good reason??
Im doing the transfer with spining spindles because im using a robot for loading parts. Spining transfer gives me a bigger chance to avoid chips in the jaws when transfering
Spinning on approach gives you the opportunity to clean chips off of the part and jaws. The ideal way to do this (at least on the machines I work with, one being a ten axis mill/turn), is to approach with rpm sync, enable and home both C axes and grab static, with the C servos engaged. It's the most accurate way to match feature to feature between spindles. Spindle phase sync is primarily for polygon stock.
@@TheFeralEngineer makes sense, I knew there had to be a good reason. In my old lathe Iv got sub spindle, however it's only a 2 axis lathe so no milling etc, Iv always handed off with spindle stopped. But that makes sense now. Thanks.
@@marcf7008 on any machine with a traversing sub axis, you're doing yourself an injustice by not running it through via the available commands on the control. Simplest way to do it would be (on a fanuc or similar based machine): Handle jog sub to "grip" position Set g54 sub spindle axis (usually A or B) zero point (B, 0, measure) You'll get a distance from machine home of, let's say -14.5" Send the sub home Program structure: O0001; (Left side operations) M5 M1 M211 (sub chuck open on mori) M51 (air blow) M35 (rpm sync) G97s500m3 G0 B3.0 (clearance above part) G1 G54 G98 B0 F20. (grip position) M210 (close sub chuck) M11(open main chuck) G28B5. (Use 5." Above B0 position as "intermediate position" due to sub axis not having an incremental call) (Sub will return home) M5 M36 (disable sync) M1 (Right side operations) M30; Mileage may vary from machine to machine. M codes are always different from each manufacturer, so check your documentation for air blow, chuck open/close and sync commands.
This machining with 9 axis is over wheeling, and totally awesome, Thx Tyson, you are excellent at working us through all the steps,,,Been away for a few days, and have to catch up on rear video's. Bear in Boyd TX.
Nice work. I'm curious how the machine operates. I used to work on a twin turret Mori Seiki ZL-200S with sub-spindle, It required two programs, one for each head, and used wait codes to synchronize operations between them. M201, M202, etc. The Tornos-Bechler Deco 20a and 13a swiss lathes I worked on had proprietary software that would synchronize or constrain operations between the main and back work so the machine could run continuously without one head waiting for the other, though. The downside of the Tornos machines was, being optimized for high volume production, they converted the program to binary so you couldn't read or edit the G-code in the machine.
Doosan does it the same way as Mori. Split control. Someone must've poked around in your parameters because mori wait codes are 100-199 (100-197 on recent machines because of m198 being external media) sub call. 200 series m codes are dedicated to second spindle commands - m203, m204, m219, etc. M200 and m201 are typically chip conveyor.
@@TheFeralEngineer You're right on with the wait codes, they were 100-199. It's been a couple of years since I worked on a lathe. I got out of the small shop where I worked on whatever needed to run and took a job in the milling department at a larger company. Been doing 3, 4 and 5 axis milling these days, though mostly they give me 5 axis jobs to do in a 3 axis.
@@TITANSofCNC thats actually part of my plan! Im going to do your program while im also in school doing hands on stuff. Planning on only using grants for school so i avoid more debt. While im in school my credit should improve enough to hopefully be able to buy a machine for my house and start workimg. If i hadnt messed up so bad in my youth i wouldnt even bother with school, i believe your program is probably better. Im praying to god for some success in this, because itll save my life
@@TITANSofCNC I actually wound up using your resources to learn Fusion 360 while I was in trade school. They were initially teaching Mastercam, but my small business can't touch the cost of their seats.
I have seen parts where they synchronize the main and sub chuck for pass off. I have seen them when they pass off without spinning in synchronicity. Does anyone know why that is, or why it’s preferred to some people to spin them during pass off?
I like it but try amping the sfm up for your finish turning. Especially with aluminum, sometimes it's better to just run straight rpms and feed rate. G97, not G96.
Great video! Do you have experience with more CAM software next to MasterCAM? Recently we required an old Doosan MX2500ST 9-axis machine, but we cannot figure out which software is best. We make percussion instruments, so we are not only focused on CNC work.
That boring bar T3, is there anything different you would do to break the chip instead of having a stringer? I can never get the chip to break nicely and not ball up.
Probably just leaving more stock for the finish pass would make it better. It’s probably not a heavy enough pass for the chip to curl into the chip breaker. A lot of manufacturers “finish inserts” are still good to about .040” depth of cut and in my experience being up in that range helps with the chip control.
yooooo i got you a new type of cnc drilling that can be fast even for really deep metal.... ok so you got your drill right what if you have a drill holder on the bootom..????? i mean the drill drills a hole to the bottom and then the drill holder gets atached to the drill that will make the drill being held from top and bottom.... maaan with the drill holder you can really up the ipm like allot because it is held by both sides....you can even add some nitrogen or something so that the heat doesnt build.... but i think this needs a new cnc machine.... but i mean if you get like a 20 sm solid steel and you drill it with a 22sm drill and then atach the drill holder to the drill you can easily drill the whole block because it hold both up and down.... you know drill brake because its pushed by only one side maaaaan that can be an awesome drill ....
Imagine they tell me a a conventional lathe and milling machine newbie amateur to turn a complicated part on a brand new machine for the very first time....... 😂😅😆😬😠😀😁😂😃😠😠😠😠😢😢😢
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Tyson is really good at explaining everything in detail
Some people are naturals in their ability to teach. I think it runs in the family.
Tyson I have to say Man you are excellent not only at what you do but in the way you explain everything. Keep it Brother, your helping a great deal of us with your works. Thank you.
Machining is wonderful ...... explaining is great.... Also Dad will be proud of the road you have travelled. Keep it up all of you. Showing what the industry can do . Describing whats going on and being proud of what you do....... it ticks ALL the boxes. Amacf
These modern super CNC machines are simply amazing. My father’s factory had few dozen CNC machines made in Japan and Taiwan. It’s incredible how much these machines have evolved and advanced.
By far my favorite video thus far, and I have seen over a hundred. Tyson, Shazaam! Nice.
Multi-axis machines provide a high level of CNC manufacturing capabilities and come with several benefits which make them invaluable tools to use. In simple terms, multi-axis machining is a manufacturing process whereby tools can move in 4 or more directions. This technical element helps to provide better surface finishes and quicker production times. CNC programming is made easier though the use of multi-axis CNC machines.
You have a gift for explaining things great job.
VERY good detail Tyson! Thank you for sharing each step and settings.
Wow..amazing.so excited to see it..hello..i'm from malaysia..working from zero until become a mastercam 2018 programmer..almost 10years in this industry..when watching your video..wow,i think i only learning just 10%...you all is awesome...i love it...😎😎
Top-job, Tyson.
Tyson taming the Beast! BOOM!
Tyson, you the man. Excellent!
Great stuff! Why are the chucks spinning during the chuck transfer?
Usually for blowing chips off of the part and to make you puke when you run the machine with a hangover... Ask me how I know...
@@TheFeralEngineer Ah ok, that makes sense. Haha lol, you should've adjusted the shutter time of your eyes to the rpm of the chucks ;p
@@marnixvlot1868 customers took me out the night before and kept feeding me gin and tonics and jagger bombs. I was hurting. Puked on the side street the office was on before I even got there. Then they wanted to see a spindle transfer. When those two chucks came together, they weren't the only thing spinning 🤢🤢. Those guys weren't in much better shape, though. One guy never made it past the bushes in front of the building 😆
i had the same question. Found this video explaining the reasoning @ 1:11 th-cam.com/video/yCL8cZq0LZI/w-d-xo.html&feature=share
You got guts man! Makes me nervous to see feeds and speeds that high when the part is hanging that far out of the chuck! Awesome video.
Those claw jaws are really good
I use Bison Claw Jaws everyday. Some jobs I only clamp on 5mm depth with over 100mm stick-out on a 100mm diameter stock! They're great!
I can't believe 27 people gave this a thumbs down.
What's wrong with people.
Atleast these people make things happen.
Thumbs down on the negativity.
Thanks for the video. EM
Just to appease my curiosity, what is the purpose of having the spindles running during the handoff between spindles, I feel like it would be safer if they where stopped, I'm sure there is a good reason??
Im doing the transfer with spining spindles because im using a robot for loading parts.
Spining transfer gives me a bigger chance to avoid chips in the jaws when transfering
@Old Dog Tools: Not faster if next operation is with C-axis machining.
Spinning on approach gives you the opportunity to clean chips off of the part and jaws. The ideal way to do this (at least on the machines I work with, one being a ten axis mill/turn), is to approach with rpm sync, enable and home both C axes and grab static, with the C servos engaged. It's the most accurate way to match feature to feature between spindles. Spindle phase sync is primarily for polygon stock.
@@TheFeralEngineer makes sense, I knew there had to be a good reason. In my old lathe Iv got sub spindle, however it's only a 2 axis lathe so no milling etc, Iv always handed off with spindle stopped. But that makes sense now. Thanks.
@@marcf7008 on any machine with a traversing sub axis, you're doing yourself an injustice by not running it through via the available commands on the control.
Simplest way to do it would be (on a fanuc or similar based machine):
Handle jog sub to "grip" position
Set g54 sub spindle axis (usually A or B) zero point (B, 0, measure)
You'll get a distance from machine home of, let's say -14.5"
Send the sub home
Program structure:
O0001;
(Left side operations)
M5
M1
M211 (sub chuck open on mori)
M51 (air blow)
M35 (rpm sync)
G97s500m3
G0 B3.0 (clearance above part)
G1 G54 G98 B0 F20. (grip position)
M210 (close sub chuck)
M11(open main chuck)
G28B5. (Use 5." Above B0 position as "intermediate position" due to sub axis not having an incremental call)
(Sub will return home)
M5
M36 (disable sync)
M1
(Right side operations)
M30;
Mileage may vary from machine to machine. M codes are always different from each manufacturer, so check your documentation for air blow, chuck open/close and sync commands.
This machining with 9 axis is over wheeling, and totally awesome, Thx Tyson, you are excellent at working us through all the steps,,,Been away for a few days, and have to catch up on rear video's. Bear in Boyd TX.
Clean and clear explain👍
Tyson, you rock man! 👍
This video was fantastic, can't wait for the next one!
Nice work. I'm curious how the machine operates. I used to work on a twin turret Mori Seiki ZL-200S with sub-spindle, It required two programs, one for each head, and used wait codes to synchronize operations between them. M201, M202, etc. The Tornos-Bechler Deco 20a and 13a swiss lathes I worked on had proprietary software that would synchronize or constrain operations between the main and back work so the machine could run continuously without one head waiting for the other, though. The downside of the Tornos machines was, being optimized for high volume production, they converted the program to binary so you couldn't read or edit the G-code in the machine.
Doosan does it the same way as Mori. Split control. Someone must've poked around in your parameters because mori wait codes are 100-199 (100-197 on recent machines because of m198 being external media) sub call. 200 series m codes are dedicated to second spindle commands - m203, m204, m219, etc. M200 and m201 are typically chip conveyor.
@@TheFeralEngineer You're right on with the wait codes, they were 100-199. It's been a couple of years since I worked on a lathe. I got out of the small shop where I worked on whatever needed to run and took a job in the milling department at a larger company. Been doing 3, 4 and 5 axis milling these days, though mostly they give me 5 axis jobs to do in a 3 axis.
beautiful jod TYSON !.
Verry nice explanation of the process, wich I could see the both operations in one go, but other than that perfect video 🤘
Could you guys do a video on external buttress threads on a lathe?
This is so damn cool! Hoping to be into this trade in another year or so. Working on grants for school right now
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@@TITANSofCNC thats actually part of my plan! Im going to do your program while im also in school doing hands on stuff. Planning on only using grants for school so i avoid more debt. While im in school my credit should improve enough to hopefully be able to buy a machine for my house and start workimg.
If i hadnt messed up so bad in my youth i wouldnt even bother with school, i believe your program is probably better.
Im praying to god for some success in this, because itll save my life
@@TITANSofCNC I actually wound up using your resources to learn Fusion 360 while I was in trade school. They were initially teaching Mastercam, but my small business can't touch the cost of their seats.
Great content, thank you for the explanation of the process.
For verification and collision check do you use camplete/ vericut or just mastercam’s machinesimulation?
Awesome work Tyson!
I have seen parts where they synchronize the main and sub chuck for pass off. I have seen them when they pass off without spinning in synchronicity. Does anyone know why that is, or why it’s preferred to some people to spin them during pass off?
I like it but try amping the sfm up for your finish turning. Especially with aluminum, sometimes it's better to just run straight rpms and feed rate. G97, not G96.
Great video! Do you have experience with more CAM software next to MasterCAM? Recently we required an old Doosan MX2500ST 9-axis machine, but we cannot figure out which software is best. We make percussion instruments, so we are not only focused on CNC work.
Spritcam work very well in this kind of machine.
Hey there....I did not catch the kind of Aluminum you're cutting......It surely makes difference if you work 6061 or 7075 or ???
That boring bar T3, is there anything different you would do to break the chip instead of having a stringer? I can never get the chip to break nicely and not ball up.
Probably just leaving more stock for the finish pass would make it better. It’s probably not a heavy enough pass for the chip to curl into the chip breaker. A lot of manufacturers “finish inserts” are still good to about .040” depth of cut and in my experience being up in that range helps with the chip control.
Please make videos on wood cnc routary 4 axis
Can you do some CNC Lathe Work please or tips for machining Lathe work
Where did that 40ft long aluminum chip go?
Wicked ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Cant help but notice that your finishing pass didn't clean up @ 3:08
What happen to the DMG MORI videos?
The reason is because DMG MORI does not agree and does not need to pay to appear in these advertisements.
Boom Ok 👌 Thanks for this Video Great #DuplexCNC
Great video
That Cnc 🤣🤣🥷🥷🤟🏾😈😈😈😈😈😈🤯🤯🤯💎💎💎💯
It's very similar to the DMG NTX machine that I program and run everyday. Nice 👍
Dope video !
Amazing machine
This may seem stupid but can someone explain how this is more than 4 axis...?
So awesome!
need few of those cnc babies in my shop
Watched it in first 2minutes after upload 🤣
Waaaaaaayyyy to many things to remember for my pea sized nugget
Sooo cool!
Dope Af
Wow
Good .
i see only 5 axis ... any body explains
I wish this would fit in my basement
yooooo i got you a new type of cnc drilling that can be fast even for really deep metal.... ok so you got your drill right what if you have a drill holder on the bootom..????? i mean the drill drills a hole to the bottom and then the drill holder gets atached to the drill that will make the drill being held from top and bottom.... maaan with the drill holder you can really up the ipm like allot because it is held by both sides....you can even add some nitrogen or something so that the heat doesnt build.... but i think this needs a new cnc machine.... but i mean if you get like a 20 sm solid steel and you drill it with a 22sm drill and then atach the drill holder to the drill you can easily drill the whole block because it hold both up and down.... you know drill brake because its pushed by only one side maaaaan that can be an awesome drill ....
This machine is cosmos.
Wood love to see a week's worth of chips. Lol
And my CNC „experts“ can not even handle a 3 axis mill
🥺
Tyton message me. I mean read the name.. in other words i have designs.
Imagine they tell me a
a conventional lathe and milling machine newbie amateur to turn a complicated part on a brand new machine for the very first time.......
😂😅😆😬😠😀😁😂😃😠😠😠😠😢😢😢