Two fabulous musicians. I think it's so disrespectful to make music a competitive thing. This one is better than that one and so on. Appreciate each one for what they do. Music is one of the greatest gifts that God has given us. Let's embrace the gift and cherish it not cheapen it with foolish comparisons.
MorbidManMusic Well Sir, if that's what you did and how you feel about it so be it. I believe God gives us gifts and it's up to us to cultivate what he's given us. Some will never be as good as Tom Brady, Lebron James , Michael Jordan, Jeff Berlin, Marcus Miller , Jaco or who ever,no matter how much "hard work or study they put in". I can remember when I was young how some student didnt have to study or work nearly as hard as I did in school yet they would get perfect scores on exams or play their musical pieces flawlessly. Thats a gift. I'm sure you've encountered the same. I'd like to hear what you do. Based on how you're talking, you must be one of the world's greatest🤔.
Stop attaching god to things you can't explain. MorbidMan can explain how it is done and for someone like you of such "faith", why can't you just believe that focus and determination is the most likely reason for success? On earth we can prove some methods and no one for centuries can find any actual proof of god…..oh how special is an entity that can be described with a pronoun like "he"? If you seek a religious salvation you'd better start looking inward and start admitting that you don't know and faith is for fools. That is how one learns and grows. Perhaps you have a more difficult time learning then others because you won't admit that you don't know everything leaving your mind closed to finding out that you have things to learn in the first place. Maybe you should practice more instead of just believing you didn't get blessed enough.
BassToTheFaceMan I'm quite pleased with my abilities. I think you missed my point completely. We can believe in or not believe in whatever we choose. My initial comment was about making everything into a competition instead of appreciating the beauty in music.
It's my opinion that a musician who approaches music as a competition (Marcus is better vs. Jeff is better) has a truly juvenile perspective on music. Yes, Miles Davis, and Aretha Franklin have hired Marcus to produce and play on their records but to claim that this somehow makes him "better" than Jeff Berlin is ridiculous. Jeff Berlin and Marcus Miller are great musicians in their own right.
So if jeff beck, and a first day guitar player were playing together, who would be better for most of it,..? Yeah, the gap closes as time goes on, but is still there. On the other side.. Ctual music is not a competition .. learning is...
These guys sound great together. Being musical is the gift, being good at it takes work. Competition makes you better if you accept the challenge. Music is about communication and expression. That's exactly what I see here.
He did it to Jaco as well ....I have yet to find a guy he didn't smoke somewhat in a jam. Jeff is always relaxed while the other guys always seem to make an effort to push the envelope. Jeff is just cruising and slaying it. He is on the level of a Classical musician playing jazz.
@@swangonzalez4797 When it comes to Jaco we will never know. It's obvious that he was outta shape when he jammed with Jeff. Not only had he not practiced regularly for a long time by then but he was also battling mentall illness and substance abuse. If you had put Jeff up against the Jaco of 76' it would have been a totally different outcome. He wouldn't have smoked him, that's for sure. It's even debatable if he did it in the actual jam if you listen to the complete audio recording.
I love how they never step on each other's toes when they're accompanying whovever's soloing. That's often what happens with a lot of these "bass duets" where the whole thing quickly turns into a chopfest. Here instead we have a real musical dialogue all throughout at the highest level of improvisation.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear these great bass players work together. After Jaco brought the electric fretless into the limelight, Berlin was the next guy for me anyway. Long time ago! Marcus also showed me something different than I'm used to hearing from him. Very cool all around.
When I first started playing bass all I wanted to do was slap bass and one day I woke up... Man those two finger are your best weapon! Learn to make them work for you!!!!! You can have so much fun and turn a lot of heads!!!!
Great to hear two totally different styles of players... and to hear Marcus not slap (although he's the best at it.) Berlin's technique is obviously stronger as he never does anything but finger playing, but you gotta love Marcus' feel and attack. Great stuff... thanks for posting!
Marcus is capable of many things...we may not like everything he does but he's a truly great, great musician. His lines in this jam are every bit as good as (or better than) Berlin's and more imaginative IMHO. I hate comparing people but, when people like Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, Aretha Franklin (to name a few) come knocking on Berlin's door to produce (and play bass) on their records...we can have a real discussion. Until then.
peoplesrepublic ofi considering Miles is dead I'd say that's a lost cause. Although Berlin has played with Jaco, and let's not mention guys like Danny Gottlieb, Lieberman and other prominent figures. So to say he hasn't recorded or played with greats is short sighted, to say the least.
Actually, I think that is one of guys from the booth asking them to take the volume down before the decibel police arrive. Always a danger at NAMM.......
Agreed, music isn't a competitive sport-if it were, Jeff Berlin would be a gold medalist! He's played as a sideman a lot of the fusion greats (Holdsworth, Lavitz, Bruford, etc.) in addition to his own records, but can play a lot of other styes.
It's a B flat blues: Bb7///|Eb7///|Bb7///|////|Eb7///|Edim7///|Bb7///|G7///|Cm7///|F7///|Bb7/G7/|Cm7/F7/|| They're playing around with some substitutions, but that's the basic chord structure.
Once again Marcus shows his moves. What Marcus is a true bass player cause he holds the bottom down and his slapping his what he dose best.I love when he slaps and the funk he brings to bass playing.He has different styles in his arsonal thats why you either love or hate him but you can't take nothing away from him. That's why he's more respected over seas and not in the States. Just like the Beatles the were love cause they were from another country but all they played were blues? Go figure?
Big names aren't the only people who can make noteworthy music. I love both of these dudes to the death but if you want to compare them I don't think you should start by saying that.
the only problem with your comment is the style is not called slap "eg larry graham . thumping and plucking i have doing this since 1974. slapping is done on the upright bass. why is it you guys try to change something that has all ready been invented Larry graham clearly states how he conceived this concept. no disrespect to any one I just want everybody to learn ! ( Larry graham) 1969 Thank you for letting me be myself again "Thats it"
I would like to make this perfectly clear for 43 years we called it Thumping & Plucking Know that we have you tube you guys want to call it something other than what it is.you have to watch cab calloway's the reefer man ' unfortunately the version that contains the style has been removed but I have it. I will post it if i can the video they show now dose not represent the style
Two cats who can really swing on the electric. Play real lines on blues changes. Not these endless vamps that I hear all over youtube. They are making my music. Very rare. If you are focused on some kind of technique, you don't get it.
Two fabulous musicians. I think it's so disrespectful to make music a competitive thing. This one is better than that one and so on. Appreciate each one for what they do. Music is one of the greatest gifts that God has given us. Let's embrace the gift and cherish it not cheapen it with foolish comparisons.
MorbidManMusic Well Sir, if that's what you did and how you feel about it so be it. I believe God gives us gifts and it's up to us to cultivate what he's given us. Some will never be as good as Tom Brady, Lebron James , Michael Jordan, Jeff Berlin, Marcus Miller , Jaco or who ever,no matter how much "hard work or study they put in". I can remember when I was young how some student didnt have to study or work nearly as hard as I did in school yet they would get perfect scores on exams or play their musical pieces flawlessly. Thats a gift. I'm sure you've encountered the same. I'd like to hear what you do. Based on how you're talking, you must be one of the world's greatest🤔.
Stop attaching god to things you can't explain. MorbidMan can explain how it is done and for someone like you of such "faith", why can't you just believe that focus and determination is the most likely reason for success? On earth we can prove some methods and no one for centuries can find any actual proof of god…..oh how special is an entity that can be described with a pronoun like "he"? If you seek a religious salvation you'd better start looking inward and start admitting that you don't know and faith is for fools. That is how one learns and grows. Perhaps you have a more difficult time learning then others because you won't admit that you don't know everything leaving your mind closed to finding out that you have things to learn in the first place. Maybe you should practice more instead of just believing you didn't get blessed enough.
BassToTheFaceMan I'm quite pleased with my abilities. I think you missed my point completely. We can believe in or not believe in whatever we choose. My initial comment was about making everything into a competition instead of appreciating the beauty in music.
maria I What are you talking about?
maria I thank you. I love playing bass and I enjoy listening to and encouraging other musicians.
marcus is slaying !! i love hearing him not slap : ) i wish he would take melodic solos more often. he is truly one of the greats
It's my opinion that a musician who approaches music as a competition (Marcus is better vs. Jeff is better) has a truly juvenile perspective on music. Yes, Miles Davis, and Aretha Franklin have hired Marcus to produce and play on their records but to claim that this somehow makes him "better" than Jeff Berlin is ridiculous. Jeff Berlin and Marcus Miller are great musicians in their own right.
Exactly brother. They are both AMAZING!!!!
And these guys are FRIENDS.......
Thats why its called “and” instead of “vs”
So if jeff beck, and a first day guitar player were playing together, who would be better for most of it,..? Yeah, the gap closes as time goes on, but is still there. On the other side.. Ctual music is not a competition .. learning is...
These guys sound great together. Being musical is the gift, being good at it takes work. Competition makes you better if you accept the challenge. Music is about communication and expression. That's exactly what I see here.
berlin runs rings around all these "Jam" players, the man has knowledge. although he looks like he gives lectures on fly fishing.
He did it to Jaco as well ....I have yet to find a guy he didn't smoke somewhat in a jam. Jeff is always relaxed while the other guys always seem to make an effort to push the envelope. Jeff is just cruising and slaying it. He is on the level of a Classical musician playing jazz.
@@swangonzalez4797 When it comes to Jaco we will never know. It's obvious that he was outta shape when he jammed with Jeff. Not only had he not practiced regularly for a long time by then but he was also battling mentall illness and substance abuse. If you had put Jeff up against the Jaco of 76' it would have been a totally different outcome. He wouldn't have smoked him, that's for sure. It's even debatable if he did it in the actual jam if you listen to the complete audio recording.
It’s like you can hear the whole history of jazz in Marcus’ solo.
I love how they never step on each other's toes when they're accompanying whovever's soloing. That's often what happens with a lot of these "bass duets" where the whole thing quickly turns into a chopfest. Here instead we have a real musical dialogue all throughout at the highest level of improvisation.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear these great bass players work together. After Jaco brought the electric fretless into the limelight, Berlin was the next guy for me anyway. Long time ago! Marcus also showed me something different than I'm used to hearing from him. Very cool all around.
A musical conversation of two styles at the highest level, and actually made to look easy... Stunning👍
Jeff Brelin is a BEAST!!! Both of them are great...no need in comparing them.
Then why solo out jeff?
The best of the beast players in the World!
When I first started playing bass all I wanted to do was slap bass and one day I woke up... Man those two finger are your best weapon! Learn to make them work for you!!!!! You can have so much fun and turn a lot of heads!!!!
Jeff Berlin!! tuve el privilegio de verlo tocar en vivo! es GRANDE, como músico y por su humanidad..
Great to hear two totally different styles of players... and to hear Marcus not slap (although he's the best at it.) Berlin's technique is obviously stronger as he never does anything but finger playing, but you gotta love Marcus' feel and attack. Great stuff... thanks for posting!
I can't watch this enough! It looks almost competitive, but in the end they're cool with each other.
Marcus is capable of many things...we may not like everything he does but he's a truly great, great musician. His lines in this jam are every bit as good as (or better than) Berlin's and more imaginative IMHO. I hate comparing people but, when people like Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter, Aretha Franklin (to name a few) come knocking on Berlin's door to produce (and play bass) on their records...we can have a real discussion. Until then.
peoplesrepublic ofi considering Miles is dead I'd say that's a lost cause. Although Berlin has played with Jaco, and let's not mention guys like Danny Gottlieb, Lieberman and other prominent figures. So to say he hasn't recorded or played with greats is short sighted, to say the least.
peoplesrepublic ofi Not Quite!!!
Berlin has recorded with Allan Holdsworth and Bill Bruford as well. Top notch bssist. So underrated...
Yeaaaa,THIS is the Miller I can appreciate,miss me with the nursery ryhme sht!!
Great stuff and a pleasure to hear JB without that Chorus all over his tone!
This is fun to play along to, i try to see how many scales, chords,I can fit into what they're playing
Wow! Marcus and Jeff speaking on the same language!
Marcus playin some true bebop lines
Love the way Marcus attacks the notes
Marcus Miller at the end of his solo Quotes A Sonny Rollins Phrase from his Solo he did on Tenor Madness
I don't care how great these guys are....and they are great... That was noise to my ears
To powerhouses. Jeff Berlin's playing is exquisite. Always seems picks the 'right' notes.
Except all the obvious glitches... fans... ugh
Jeff Berlin is one bad ass bass player
Great vid! When I "jam" - it's usually something simpler than Charlie Parker. Two great players.
Jeff Berlin is so sick man, it is almost unbelievable!!
This Jeff Berlin is just awesome !!!
nice fingerstyle and thumb strokes by marcus miller
Serious chops there.
same thing to you as well it is not called Slap it is called Thumping because of the thump sound you get when playing the electric bass
Great- 2 masters.
That's not the D'Addario booth. It's the DR booth. Hall C right on the corner.
it's an fclef. this was recorded in fclef booth.
Actually, I think that is one of guys from the booth asking them to take the volume down before
the decibel police arrive. Always a danger at NAMM.......
Agreed, music isn't a competitive sport-if it were, Jeff Berlin would be a gold medalist! He's played as a sideman a lot of the fusion greats (Holdsworth, Lavitz, Bruford, etc.) in addition to his own records, but can play a lot of other styes.
Mr Berlin!!
thanks . . basic blues with the jazz turnaround.
Yeah!
Those guys should open an academy.
Yes, you're right about RV series but it still Sadowsky (headstock shape and knobs are make me think so). Must be MV series then.
George clooney behind jeff hahahaha
It's a B flat blues: Bb7///|Eb7///|Bb7///|////|Eb7///|Edim7///|Bb7///|G7///|Cm7///|F7///|Bb7/G7/|Cm7/F7/||
They're playing around with some substitutions, but that's the basic chord structure.
Nice !
@Luvaboi88 headstock doesnt look like fender either.
I'm pretty much sure it's Sdowsky RV 5 Marcus is playing.
you are damm Right
Once again Marcus shows his moves. What Marcus is a true bass player cause he holds the bottom down and his slapping his what he dose best.I love when he slaps and the funk he brings to bass playing.He has different styles in his arsonal thats why you either love or hate him but you can't take nothing away from him. That's why he's more respected over seas and not in the States. Just like the Beatles the were love cause they were from another country but all they played were blues? Go figure?
It looks just like my Sadowsky NYC head stock!
Michael C It is a Sadowsky. I'm also a proud owner of 2.
It's an Fclef bass classic
someone give the chord changes here
Big names aren't the only people who can make noteworthy music. I love both of these dudes to the death but if you want to compare them I don't think you should start by saying that.
the only problem with your comment is the style is not called slap "eg larry graham . thumping and plucking i have doing this since 1974. slapping is done on the upright bass. why is it you guys try to change something that has all ready been invented Larry graham clearly states how he conceived this concept. no disrespect to any one I just want everybody to learn ! ( Larry graham) 1969 Thank you for letting me be myself again "Thats it"
Wow. Marcus Miller on a 5 string. I've never seen that.
Steve Lockwood I believe he has recorded a few songs on 5's. It's unusual but it has happened. Marcus' the man!
I would like to make this perfectly clear for 43 years we called it Thumping & Plucking
Know that we have you tube you guys want to call it something other than what it is.you have to watch cab calloway's the reefer man ' unfortunately the version that contains the style has been removed but I have it. I will post it if i can the video they show now dose not represent the style
George Clooney watching on the corner?
what kind of bass marcus miller is playin.....it dont have that signature MM pickguard
its likely to be sadowsky. the headstock, the no. of control, and marcus miller likes sadowsky!
it cant be RV5 ==!!! RV = rosewood fingerboard! im not sure if its a sadowsky but it does look like one but still im not that sure.
srsly guys, u don’t compare these 2 legends, K ? Shut up and enjoy, or learn sth
Two cats who can really swing on the electric. Play real lines on blues changes. Not these endless vamps that I hear all over youtube. They are making my music. Very rare. If you are focused on some kind of technique, you don't get it.
Marcus was playing an Fclef.I was there.Its not a sadowsky.
That 5 almost looks like a Sire. They were not in production at this date. Prototype maybe?
It's a sadowsky bass
Its a Sadowsky,,,,,
I feel like Jeff Berlin is against everything Marcus Miller stands for, fat slapping, and aggressive finger style when not slapping...
LOL!!! No contest for Jeff
+Harry D. they are both awesome soloists, but I'm listening for how well they accompany each other, that's bass playing
Marcus Miller has better sound.May be he is the best sounding bass player.
1ST THEY NOT PLAYING ANYTHING YOU WOULD SLAP ON AND JEFF IS ONE WITH THE INSTRUMENT HE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT