Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (Part 2 of 7)
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- ORIGINAL UPLOAD DATE: December 10, 2009
Part two now focuses on the second biggest problem with the Phantom Menace, the story. The mystery plot lacking direction and emotional involvement was really the other big problem. No tension, no drama, no stakes. Characters aimlessly follow along the events. - ตลก
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"In fact this is so genius I have a feeling that George Lucas had nothing to do with it, and probably fought against putting it in the movie." Single best line said in any review ever.
Oh man. I could not stop laughing.
***** I don't know if that's really true, though. Everything I've ever seen indicates to me that the original Star Wars was a fluke that was basically goosed up in editing by other people.
There's an excellent TH-cam video about how editing saved Star Wars. The pacing was WAY way off until the editors started shifting scenes around. It's really worth a watch. George Lucas had so much fucking help that made a good movie, including his wife at the time.
@@revolverswitch I'm fairly sure George Lucas is an average film maker. Apparently there was another director or something that wasn't credited, and I feel like it's safe to say that he probably played a hand in making Star Wars actually good.
thx 1138
The cuts of the children sitting through the completely mundane senate hearings really says it all. lol
GTwo It really does. There are so many fans of Phantom Menace who claim it was "made for kids." But they totally ignore this. Amazing.
it's ok neither did any adults 8D@@balloonfiesta15
I saw this movie in the theaters when it came out in 1999, I had just turned 5 years old. I only remember bits and pieces of seeing it on the big screen because I slept through parts of it. To this day, this remains the only time where I remember falling asleep while watching a movie in the theaters.
ladistar I do the next best thing, completely zone out and forget I have the movie playing.
I thought the Senate scenes were some of the better ones in the movie. It was interesting seeing the politics of the galaxy and how things worked.
It's so dense, every single image has so many things going on..
+Lachie Hurburgh This comment is so dense, there's so many things being commented on.
+Goomy Worshipper As original as the bronies.
It's like poetry, it rhymes. Each stanza sorta rhymes with the last one.
if we get Jar Jar working. 'Cause he's a funnier character than we've ever had in the movies
Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
For those that don't know "the movies are for children" is something Lucas said in an interview when asked about criticism of Jar Jar.
Yea because Jar Jar is for children... Children like him
Darth Jar Jar would have made the film a lot better, but Lucas is a coward.
That's a crutch he uses, otherwise why have cremated Owen and Beru, limb cutting, Han blowing Greedo away under a table, torture, strangulation, feeding people to monsters, pilots burning in their cockpits, loads of mind numbing political talk, and Anakin being semi cremated? More like he can't write dialogue for adults and wants to sell more toys to the babies.
Hence the senate scenes..
@@white-dragon4424 I hate sounding like those youtubers that review children's shows, but I think that violence and serious themes can be used in children's media just fine
The problem comes when you become self-conscious about making media targeted for kids, and then try (and fail) to imitate the parts of dune that aren't based on the hero's journey
I always thought that, in the original Star Wars movie, that Obi Wan wore the brown robes and hood because he was hiding out on Tatooine, pretending to be some kind of hermit. The Empire wiped all but wiped out the Jedi, so he was being incognito. I never would have guessed that he wore the same brown robes in his prime as a jedi knight.
If anything, being a Jedi is a form of religion, by going from the films of course, so it's not like they would be opposed to dressing in the appropriate manner to a planet with one topigraphical feature.
To be fair Yoda and Anakin wore nearly identical brown & beige robes in the Original Trilogy as well
But yoda weas the same clothing in Empire that Obi wan does in a new hope
@@observerdude9809 well yah but hes a little green guy in a cave, living a hermit lifestyle
This always bothered me too. It should never have been a uniform.
" Good vs evil, the classic hero on a journey, the adventurous rogue the damsel in distress the wise old sage, gay robots and an epic quest of discovery." this line gets me evertime i watch this.
+nostalgia comic man child
Of course an equivalent can be said about this movie, but that was a good line, yea.
+nostalgia comic man child
Of course an equivalent can be said about this movie, but that was a good line, yea.
+An Outrage the difference would be that this movie fails to live up to that legacy, unlike the old.
Mckenzie .Latham
What "legacy"? That quote described the primal themes archetypes IV embodied, and I said I also embodies equivalent themes and archetypes.
This has nothing to do with "legacies" - legacies are what's left behind after something.
I was so into this but the tied up woman kinda ruined it for me, wish I had just listened
Don't you just hate it when the person you have tied up in the basement against their will doesn't have the common courtesy to be quiet when you're trying to make a video?
+SpaceGhost1984 oh man, dude, it's a pain....
+SpaceGhost1984 Who HASNT been there... jeez people, youre nice enough to not gag them with a dirty sock and they wont shut the hell up!
+SpaceGhost1984 3 words....Duct tape, Duct Tape, Duct Tape!
+SpaceGhost1984 Well, There's no website telling me how to manage this stuff, so I have to improvise it.
also we all should just compliment that nice rack. I'm surprised the tied up girl frame wasn't a clickbait video preview pic.
Plinkett casually shuffling through bone fragments as if they're dead leaves obscuring his plastic toys is one of the funniest things ever filmed.
@Scott's Precious Little Account Yes im sure.
@Scott's Precious Little Account internet humor used to be actually funny
@@madmanpecos eh
@Scott's Precious Little Account idk I'm 17 watching this for the first time and it's hilarious imo
"We get a sense of how small and ill-equipped the rebels are, and how large and powerful the empire is. The low angle implies dominance, and the length of the star destroyer implies the long reach of the empire."
Honestly, the most insightful breakdown of a single moment of Star Wars I've ever heard.
Its also a killer opening shot
@@oz_jones yes. And George Lucas wrote the scene and oversaw it
@@observerdude9809 Allegedly
@Scott's Precious Little Account a lot of the shot editing was Spielberg I believe, him and another guy who sat through the first edit had to tell Lucas that the pacing was awful and he needed to fix it
Woooahhh!!
Basement scene is genius.
Genius.
It’s so dense.
Every image has so much going on
I would like a Pizza roll.
None for Omegon?
Obviously they'll share it.
whats food for the alpharius is food for the omegon
Too bad. The Trade Federation set up a blockade around Plinkett's house, so he can't send any pizza rolls out.
Then we'll send the Alpha Legion to break it!
“People call me a murderer even though I ain’t never been caught yet-“ came really close to making me into one of Plinkett’s victims from laughing so hard.
Plinkett single-handedly has the funniest voice of all time. It's absolutely *PERFECT* for these legendary Star Wars prequel reviews.
I'd give that title to the Wizard People Dear Reader guy, but it's still awesome
+Aj Koorstra
Nope, this one:
th-cam.com/video/4Z2Z23SAFVA/w-d-xo.html
I agree I love his voice!
+NO I DIDN'T He sounds like Soos from Gravity Falls
Or Gilbert Godfried I think that's how you spell it
1:40 "In fact this is so genious, I have a feeling that George Luceas had nothing to do with it and probably fought against putting it in the movie."
This is absolutely my favorite sentence from all your reviews.
Lucas*
Mine is "Anakin kneels before monster mash, and pledges his loyalty to the graveyard smash"
This review is so much better than the actual movie it's crazy.
I've seen this review probably a dozen times from beginning to end. I've never seen any of the prequels from beginning to end. I've only ever seen them in snippets on TBS.
@@jbard9892 i watched them all the way through in the theatre, and then i think i watched them a couple times each at home. And it just confirmed that the movie wasnt any good, sometimes you just have to watch it again as a kid to realize how bad it is.
@@jbard9892 As long as you're aware that you have no good reason to hate the prequels, or even dislike them. You haven't watched them and are only going off another opinion. This is sad because now you don't feel compelled to think for yourself.
@@bradydavis4666 Oh, free thinker, you! I had already decided that the prequels were not for me long before RLM had come on the scene. I expressed this opinion by not seeing them in theatres or renting them from the video store. But I have seen more than enough of them to know I don't like them, TBS used to play them all the time.
Revenge of the Sith is the only Goodish one. Attack of the Clones has like 2 good scenes. Phantom Menace has 1 good scene.
struggling to believe 4 million people watched the first part and DIN'T COME BACK??? This is truly the stuff of legend.
The force awakens has actually... yes, 'actually' made me appreciate, at the very least, the originality of the prequel debacle. Time to find out what the correct opinion is... OH.. MY........ GAAAAAD!!!!!
Well as of Jan 2018 the first part now has 8.2 million views. So that's nice.
Some people might rewatch just the first part?
4 million sane people . just enjoying a movie. not caring about anyones opinion
Aut Tark It was only a peaceful observation. Please accept my apologies if it caused a negative emotional reaction. Am with you - we are all entitled to our own, unbridled joy in our entertainment choices. Good luck to you sir x
I am so thankful for RLM. These reviews are like a consolation prize for the existence of the prequels.
your basement looks like a lot of fun man
is it from august underground?
I lost it at "WORLD WAR 1!" Learn your history people XD
Yeah, its funny because he is actually referring to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
@@pstrap1311 Well, it doesn't pack the same punch when you're trying to make a point. Regardless, he does manage to hit the nail in the head every so often...
This is the funniest shit I have ever seen.
So true
Haha, Yeah I cant stop laughing
Badass Elite "I watched this movie with a bunch of cheerleaders. We all came to one unanimous decision: if I let them go, they promised to not tell anyone." 😂😂😂
Badass Elite nice profile pic btw
I remember laughing uncontrollably when I first saw this
half the movie is space C-SPAN.
+Rick Steck At least CSPAN makes sense
+Theo Truter
Why are jokes made in a circlejerk never funny?
Zach Soma most forced, too.
Even C-SPAN is more entertaining
I first saw this movie when I was six. My favorite character was Obi Wan because he had a blue lightsaber. 20 years later I see thats about as deep as his characterizatiom got.
Blue is a nice colour
He was also clever, witty, and calm
@@knightmare5097that is not deep characterization those are basic surface level personality traits
@@mousasha- He’s also someone who’s confident, but feels inferior to Anakin, and is someone who who contains all the things that makes the Prequel Jedi Order wrong
@@knightmare5097 I mean yeah, but the prequels fail to convey that in any really meaningful way. I've always maintained that they're a pretty good story but Lucas surrounded by yes men just couldn't write a good script to save his life.
Clone Wars (cartoon) Obi Wan is a great character who really embodies everything he shoulda been, but none of it is really there in the prequels. A real shame.
The "I analyzed this movie with a team of cheerleaders, and they came to a unanimous conclusion that if I let them go, they won't tell no one" line is a criminally underrated joke
I remember going to see this on release night. I was 18, fresh out of high school. Went with my friend and some family members. We were beyond pumped. I remember the first ten minutes had me interested, especially the first time we saw the Force Push. Cool shit! Then the Jedi landed on Naboo and everything else became a blur. I actually did the last thing I thought would happen....I fell asleep. I woke up just in time for the Darth Maul fight. And while it was cool, I didn't give a fuck about anyone involved in the fight. Very depressing night for me.
@Sheev Palpatine I wish I didn't have to laugh at it, that's the sad part. The PT was just one giant missed opportunity. It should have been better than the OT, Lucas had every resource at his disposal and he did nothing with any of it besides make more money strictly off name brand recognition and blind fanboyism.
I was a little kid.
I was 7.
I remember that I had never ever been so excited for something in my life. Yet, like you, I fell asleep, it couldn't keep a fucking 7 year old's interest. I woke up in the end of the Darth maul vs Qui-gon Jin and Kenobi lightsaber fight, right when Qui-Gon was already stabbed and Kenobi was just hanging onto whatever the hell that thing was over the giant hole that would probably be an OSHA violation IRL.
What is it with Ricks?
Dont get me started on morties
Wubbalubbadubdub!
@@cymes82 what is the DEAL with Riiicks?
The Space Obama bit gets me every time.
Still the greatest movie review ever made
By far
no
Even now I still have no idea what the Naboo thing was supposed to be about. Naboo is a planet, one member planet of the Republic, right? And the Trade Federation is... some sort of company or group of companies that deal in interstellar trade?
So I guess this situation arose when somebody taxed somebody, and the taxed party rejected this...? But who taxed who? Naboo is an actual government, so presumably they taxed the Trade Federation's trade activities? But then why does the Trade Federation have an army? This is like if the Mayor of Detroit put tolls on the roads into and out of the city, and the companies who were paying responded by raising an army and blockading the city, right? Which... would be seriously weird.
Or is the Trade Federation an actual government, like Naboo? Did they tax trade to Naboo, and that's what the Naboo government disputed?
In Star Wars it was so easy - as soon as you say "The Empire", people know exactly what that is. They know how an Empire behaves. And when we see Vader choking a guy, etc, you instantly know that it's an "Evil Empire", and you know exactly what that is and why people would rebel against it. The movie never offers explanation because there's no real need, since it's playing off historical parallels that we all know already.
But the Phantom Menace presents us with a situation that doesn't map to anything the audience can be expected to know instantly. And yet, it also declines to explain any of it to us. So never once in the film does any character tell us what the hell is going on with this dispute or the blockade. Never once do we even see the effects of the blockade - are the people starving? Is the economy collapsing? We just don't know. For all the film tells us, the people of Naboo could simply ignore the blockade completely and just carry on with their lives.
Seriously, this dispute and this blockade are meant to be the driving force of the whole plot - removing the blockade is what drives the main characters all the way to Coruscant and then all the way back again. Yet we have no idea why it's there or why it's bad.
And this from a movie that by all rights should have been made by the very best movie makers in the history of the art. It's truly baffling.
This movie has been around forever at this point ( 20 years) and I still don't get the plot. Nor do I much with the second and third ones. I'm baffled as well
They shouldn't have had all these vague passive descriptions of the conflict like "dispute over the taxation of trade routes". Who was taxing who, and for what? This stuff should be explained clearly and not with unintelligible pompous aristocrat-speak.
"Will you defer your motion to allow a commission to explore the validity of your accusations?" fucking kill me.
Look at the wealth of the planet, the lack of industry and agriculture. It's heavily implied that the Nabooans import all of their goods and food products. Without any imports everyone on the planet is running out of food and toilet paper. The Shatnerians are either trying to force the Nabooans to make them a middle man in the trade into Naboo or to give the Shatnerians a complete monopoly on the delivery of goods and services into Naboo.
I think when he wrote the prequels, Lucas was trying to channel Dune, with ideas like the Trade Federation being sort of similar to the Spacing Guild, and Naboo as an independent aristocratic planet being kind of like House Atreides. The difference is Dune actually takes a little bit of time to explain what these factions are and where they sit in the setting.
The problem is you haven't read three novels and also played the Nintendo 64 video game. Movies aren't meant to stand on their own lol
*Sarcasm*
I guarantee you that if these prequels weren't called Star Wars these apologetics wouldn't be attempting to stick up for these abominations.
+Mgen Strange
I guarantee you that if these prequel weren't called Star Wars movies they'd just go down as okay cool genre movies and this whole abomination of a circlejerk commuity that you're part of wouldn't be throwing a titty fit over any of that.
*****
Undeservedly so, of course ;)
+An Outrage Suppose it's the year of the release of The Fellowship of The Ring. It's well received. People love it, and eagerly await the next chapter. The Two Towers hits shelves. The writing style, story progression, character depth, etc... is everything that fans of its predecessor hoped for. It does anything but disappoint. As before, they eagerly await the next chapter. Then, The Berenstein Bears Go to Camp hits shelves (the alleged third chapter in the Lord of The Rings epic.)
Just suppose for a second that this actually happened.
I think fans of the first two would be justifiably perplexed and disappointed. And they might talk about it to one another in a loathsome tone. And it might annoy you (after all, The Bearenstein Bears Go to Camp is a fine book in its own right...it's just that it feels woefully out of place in this particular context.)
This is obviously a heavily exaggerated analogy, but it might help you to understand where fans of the original Star Wars trilogy are coming from.
They're not just a bunch of hateful, pretentious dummies.
_"The Berenstein Bears Go to Camp hits shelves (the alleged third chapter in the Lord of The Rings epic.)_
_Just suppose for a second that this actually happened."_
Ah, you're referring to the Ewoks lol, but we were talking about the prequels so I don't get why lol.
_"This is obviously a heavily exaggerated analogy,"_
To what happened in 1983, right? Lolol, cool, sure.
_"where fans of the original Star Wars trilogy"_
*Oh*.
I'm not sure what your point was, or whether this "Berenstein" (does it have anything to do with Beren from the Silmarillion? Or Beorn, the WereBear from Hobbit?) is even a thing - but wasn't that exactly my point?
The backlash comes from the fans who were expecting certain things. The defense as well, but also the backlash.
It was a counterpoint I made, and you just repeated.
+An Outrage I'm not a die hard enough fan to know much about the 1983 outrage. I don't know the specific gripes or anything. I personally loved all of the originals. And I did share a lot of the disappointments expressed here when I first saw Episode 1. I think there are some clear differences in the style of movie making (IMO, this guy's review makes some incredibly poignant observations in that regard.) I just think there are some serious errors that can be objectively identified, and aren't just figments of some over zealous fan boy's imagination.
As for my point, you came off (per my interpretation, anyway) as if you thought it was silly of people to hold a specific movie to a higher standard and scrutinize it more thoroughly than some other random movie. I was trying to create a scenario that captured and magnified the essence of this one, so that its nuances would be easier to see. My point was that the context matters. I figured there might be some part of you that would agree in a more extreme case.
The Berenstein Bears is a children's book series.
But see it's so dense. Every single image has so many things going on.
Fuck you rick, what is it with ricks?
The biggest problem is that when we start, in what's supposed to be the beginning of the saga, we already have the Trade Federation as the Empire-lite. They've got a droid army and take over planets. No explanation is given as to who they are, why they're so powerful, and why the Jedi or Republic never stopped them getting their own army. Criticize the Disney Trilogy for rehashing Empire/Rebels but Lucas did it here first.
Every passing day makes me wish the world ended in 1983 so it finished with Return of the Jedi.
It’s actually even worse, cause unlike the original trilogy, where Tarkin literally mentions the Emperor (thus establishing the leadership of the empire and whom they all work for) in his first scene when addressing the moth governors on the Death Star
we are never given any idea or notion of why the trade federation works for or is in league with sideous/Palpatine
So they couldn’t even professionally re-hash their own stuff.
"The biggest problem is that when we start, in what's supposed to be the beginning of the saga, we already have the Trade Federation as the Empire-lite. They've got a droid army and take over planets. No explanation is given as to who they are, why they're so powerful, and why the Jedi or Republic never stopped them getting their own army. Criticize the Disney Trilogy for rehashing Empire/Rebels but Lucas did it here first."
Yeah, correct; I think one can read like a "megacorporation with dystopia robots" theme into it, or that that's how they gained so much control over various systems and the government;
however it's not something that runs through the movie or trilogy ultimately, they're just 2ndary bad guys ultimately.
@@mckenzie.latham91 "we are never given any idea or notion of why the trade federation works for or is in league with sideous/Palpatine"
It's presented as a conspiracy mystery here - although the next movies kind of start neglecting this while doing their own (also unresolved) stuff.
However it's clear enough that they want some kinda material gain from it - whether it's just not having to pay those taxes, or getting to more territory and power (was that for their benefit, or just something they did cause Sidious said he wanted it?), or who knows what precisely.
@@WreckageBrother-rd5zf It fails as a conspiracy mystery when we are never given a clear motive for our villains and there is no follow through
we only know they for some reason are doing the bidding of Sideous, but we don’t see, or are shown any benefit for them,
we hear something about disputed trade routes, but we never get anything clear
Meanwhile in a New Hope we are given direct detail of everything
---Intro and first half of film: The Empire is chasing/looking for stolen plans for their new super war machine,
---Second half of Film on board Deathstar: the empire intends to use the death star as a weapon of terror to subjugate the galaxy and crush all residence with the threat of planetary destruction, starting with Alderann as an example
---Last act of film, the battle of Yavin: The Empire wants to kill the Rebels, and find the rebel base to use the death star on them
All of this is Simple, clear cut and straight forward motivations.
i wasn't even fully aware of the existance of the trade federation, because after the first couple of scenes we never see them again, the rest of the movie is child's racing games, and darth maul a few times i guess, then they come back only to get blown up
Before I knew about all the SW prequels hate, I thought I was the only one who was confused as hell about what was going on and what the stakes were. I was thinking basically what Plinkett is saying "who the hell is the Trade Federation. Are they like the WTO? Cause if that's the case then why are they a paramilitary force? Are they like a smuggling cartel? Cause if that's the case then why is the Republic doing diplomacy with them as if they were a sovereign entity? Are they a regulatory agency gone renegade? Cause if that's the case then why are they starting shit with their own government and what is their ultimate goal? Who are these people and where did they come from, and how does the Sith Fit in, and what happened to the TF once the empire took over?"
Oh man so true. I still don't know who they are or what they want, other than that apparently the movie desperately needed some kind of 'antagonists' other than this yet unknown phantom menace.. (?)
Maria Isabella Oh, there is no menace, that’s why it’s called a phantom... I guess.
It's probably not fair to be critiquing movies you have either never seen or haven't seen in over five years. Palpatine is clearly the "phantom" menace as no one yet knows he is plotting to eventually rule the Galactic Senate and restore the Sith to their former glory. The Trade Federation is just a pawn of his to create a false crisis in which he can seemingly defeat the enemy and become the big hero, gaining him popularity and power. The TF obviously doesn't know this, but they know Palpatine is really a powerful Sith Lord and they think he will help them become profitable and successful. If you watched "Revenge of the Sith" then you would know Palpatine has Anakin kill all the leaders of the Trade Federation and that's why they cease to exist when the Empire is formed. It's actually a really good plot for those with attention spans.
Matt Nemeth I get the plot on its basic elements. It's not that ingenious mate. And it's still sorely lacking in anything resembling context or frame of reference.
Love the fanboys excitedly running into the theatre at 0.42. I wonder how long it took them to realise the film was a steaming pile of shit? I wonder what their faces looked like at that point of realisation?
+Severian Wintermute Thank god I'm too young to have seen the Phantom Menace in theaters! =D
+Severian Wintermute "...we buried it deep inside, like gay attraction. It came bursting out later, though."wtf? o.O
+Severian Wintermute "It came bursting out later"...I hope you at least were polite enough to clean the mess off each other?
:)
:)
+Craig Tulloch I knew something was wrong as soon as you see the oriental racist alien dude pop up on the screen at the very beginning of the movie.
3:37 “They should be very similar in style to the originals because I don’t like things that are different.”
J.J. Abrams: “Write that down, write that down!”
It's been twelve years, where is my Pizza Roll?
13 years and counting.
The whole movie breaks down after the opening title crawl.
You're telling me that the Jedi's are being sent as negotiators, but they're conducting the negotiations on the seperatist ships rather than a conference under surveillance on neutral ground. Why did the Republic need to send any diplomats? Just do it over the phone. I guess they have more credibility by sending jedi in person but they're not even official government representatives, or are they?
Seriously, are the jedi like the FBI or are they a religious order independent of the state? Does the Republic have a theocratic influence if monks can operate as generals or is the force interpreted differently by different people?
Why is the separatist blockade so thin? Just fly your trade caravan in on the other side of the planet. Maybe there are more ships behind the planet that we don't see, but even then it just looks like it's spread too thin even if fighter coverage supplements the blockade.
Naboo isn't like some fringe colony right? Look at the architecture, that's old, this is a well established colony, this area of space seens largely peaceful, especially because Naboo lacks a major military. Surely the Republic can round up a military force from local planets or neighboring systems and wipe the floor with the paltry trade federation fleet.
Also, again, why send jedi diplomats? In real life, we have embassies in some real sketchy places. So the film is trying to tell me that we don't have any diplomatic presence on the stable Naboo from the galaxies major governing body. Maybe the Trade Federation attacked the embassy and captured the diplomats but that would make them look really bad and could be met with, again, a republic fleet telling them to pack it in.
Since it's a federation it isn't even operated under a homogenous centralized structure right? So a collection of individuals specializing in commerce decided to back a militarized blockade of a planet with a high potential for producing a large amount of agricultural goods because two members of the organization were told to by a hologram of unknown identity for a reward we are never told about.
The Trade Federation just let them do it? Maybe Gunray or whoever operated on his own. The trade federation could have used their military power in conjunction with the Republic to kill Gunray, maybe establishing stronger relations with the Republic, an organization that runs everything, and killing off a band of extremists laying in their group.
Also, given that the Naboo people are in a borderline state of war with the Gungans, why is their military so terrible? Not to mention that if the system was attacked by a large militant force then it could take some time to get relief from the Republic, and they would have to rely on local forces in the meantime. Ugh, this movie makes no sense.
It's actually pretty clear that a show of military force would make Gunray surrender. His tactics in diplomacy are very passive, for example, he feigns ignorance when they call and ask where the jedi diplomats are. This screams of cowardice to me and sending an automated scout drone would show the Federation's fleet was no threat.
Gunray would be facing a sizeable in space engagement against a superior force while also maintaining an occupation on the ground.
He would have no choice to surrender at the threat of Republican military action.
Jason Fenton I'd just like to say, reading your comment makes me feel smarter.
Don't forget the fact that Newt Gunray is a viceroy. In real life, a viceroy is a state appointed governor running a territory on behalf of a monarch, usually a king or emperor. Is the Trade Federation a monarchy? Wouldn't Gunray's superior be pissed off that one of his lieutenants did something that could start a war? DID FUCKING LUCAS EVEN KNOW WHAT A FUCKING VICEROY IS??? It's not like this an exotic form of office, viceroys still exist! Fucking Canada has one!
+Jason Fenton you pleb. you answer those questions by interpreting the movie, not being spoon fed answers, would you expect a character to just start reading off stuff to answer these in depth details. You could say the same about the original trilogy: Doesn't the empire fear repercussions from taking a peaceful democratic ship hostage. Why would building a death star resolve the differences in ideologies of the empire and rebels? Why is the empire even occupying tattooine a shithole planet that has literally never advanced in millennia. Is it strategic? the list goes on, but I can extrapolate my own answer to these questions because im not a pleb.
Clearly the separatists employ a paramilitary army to coerce better deals and are fairly cutthroat. Clearly the republic embassy and governing body is too weak or inept to solve this by mere conference calls. The only negotiations that the federation would respect is a higher up in the governing body ie the Jedi knights who have a very high rank in all degrees of government. The republic army is also pretty ragtag since they need to literally clone whole swaths of troops for the clone wars
Yes the Jedi have the authority to act as the FBI, as we see Obi-Wan investigate both count Dooku and the Emporer
the blockade is so thin, because its really strong, those ships are numerous enough that to penetrate it the freighters would be smuggling in very small cargo or be blown up since trade vessels aren't military grade.
extrapolate that the hooded figure has immense power, realize they would be fairly unopposed and can create a war time economy with a trade monopoly. They make money and do their jobs. Also yes, companies have paramilitary organizations, see Enron or the pmc's fighting in the middle east right now.
clearly the droid army is cheaper and better trained than any ragtag militia. Also, we can assume that the republic does not have the political clout to organize a fleet to apply military pressure to the fleet.
Jedi are trained diplomats and hold high power in government, thus a negotiation with them is much better. This happens all the time IRL. Imagine handling a hostage situation with an average cop vs a police chief/ negotiator. I would trust the chief over the cop and be more compliant.
clearly the trade federation cares more about money than with complying with the law, also it seems pretty unanimous decision. See the republic negotiating with the TRADE FEDERATION, not Nute Gunray.
What in the movie implies that there is conflict between the humans and the gungans? they isolate themselves from each other and are fine with that.
+TheGrimPoe But why does the republic have such a weak military? How do they run anything with no muscle? Also the Gungans and the human looking residents of Naboo are in conflict, I think Boss Nass comments on how he hates the Naboo people that Padme is in charge of.
Hearing Yoda talk in the originals it seems as though he would not support jedis being used as generals or official government agents. It's all very utilitarian for a group of monk types, he himself said "war does not make one great."
I love how it would be an enormous improvement if they had just replaced this movie with all the cutscenes from the first half of the Star Wars Battlefront II campaign.
Yes
I'm guessing that's old Battlefront II right?
"This is so genius I'm convinced George Lucas had nothing to do with it."
Fuck you for making me spit soda on my monitor. Why am i just now finding this? Good stuff!
Funny thing is it's probably true as well if you know a bit about the making of the old films
"Without saying one word of awkward, boring political dialogue that goes on for ten minutes" is still my favorite line in the whole review.
Also another favorite one of mine would be "Also - moments earlier, the Jedi willingly drank tea that was given to them; WHILE they discussed how everything felt really fishy:"
I love your analysis of the opening scenes. I enjoyed the prequels when they came out, but since learning so much about stories over the last few years, I see all the problems.
The funniest part about the blockade is why it's only a ring and not a sphere around the planet. I know hyperspace jumps have specific routes, but they are not wormholes with specific entry points. There is no reason not to fly around the blockade.
"I love your analysis of the opening scenes."
You mean the part where he says they talk about politics for 10 boring minutes, or the part where he says they should've been aware of potential poison in the tea while talking about how everything felt really fishy?
From "Total Film.com" says that "Star Wars, Episode I: The Phantom Menace" is the worst misleading title in the movie. They said that they shouldn't been called, "Star Wars, Episode I: The Rock Bottom."
i saw one review once that said lucas couldn't direct traffic. thought that was hilarious....
The story should have focused on Anakin (BTW that's how the II and III worked), how his life was, being in the bar, listening stories of pilots. Building the pod racer, etc. How horrible the life of a slave and explore more the life on Tatooine. They told many things what Anakin did but didn't show it. And then one day, a group of people fleeding from a conflict showed up. Then after the conflict settled, they should have shown Anakin's training and stuff how he built the lightsaber. THIS is what they should have focused on. Oh, and also on Palpatine, because he was very important in Anakin's fall to the dark side.
+Glampkoo I don't think anybody - even people who love the prequels - like anything about the Naboo plot, completely pointless.
So one ship makes through a planetry blockade with the Queen in tow?
In other news, I just beat LeBron James one-on-one with one hand tied behind my back, my left shoe tied to my right shoe, and playing with a football when I was on offense.
+5Ermacs haha, Cinema sins reference 👍
What I'm wondering is why they decided to fly THROUGH the blockade and not around it. I mean, it only covered a tiny sliver of space that was probably less then 10% of the total volume they could have chosen to fly through.
Prequel fans: ITS BECUZ QUI GON USED THE FORCE TO MAKE THE BLICKADE SHIPS DUMBERER. LEARN UR FACTS IDIOT 😤😤😤
First minute into watching The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in the theater, I was hyped and excited.
But then Bilbo started writing, "It began long ago in a land far away to the east."
And then I heard this voice in my head. 0:11
And at the end, walking out of the theater I was like. "...oh, no. Not again."
Wot?
I'm talking about prequel syndrome.
Chicken and Egg effect, PJ exploited his gained wealth and creative freedom to be The Lord of the Rings AGAIN rather than be The Hobbit.
*****
PJ exploited nothing. He never even wanted to direct the Hobbit, he stepped in because no one could fill its shoes in time after Del Toro left. The result of the trilogy being created is simply for the fact that he could. He thought that there is plenty of room to show everything and so he did.
To be fair the actual guy behind Mr. Plinkett said he liked the Desolation of Smaug and thought the first hobbit movie was okay so maybe you could consider cutting these movies a little slack.
I mean acording to Mr. Plinkett one of the worst things about the prequels was its poor acting well The Hobbit Films actually do have a lot of good acting like Ian Mcellan as Gandalf.
Not to mention the characters are way more interesting than the prequel's monotone speakers
I cried when he said world war 1. This guy is hilarious. I have seen all these reviews but they still crack me up.
At least once a year, I find myself watching these all over again. These are all fantastic and always will be.
I swear, the only bad thing about those reviews is that they remind me of Prequel existence.
@Autismo I hate thinking about the prequels, the special editions and the newer films. It's a shame how all the sequels played out that I try not to think about them... just like Crystal Skull. I wish I never watched them.
nearly 3 million viewers from the first part didn't even bother to watch the second part lol
That's alright I'll make up for it by watching all 7 parts daily.
That’s because the reviews are shit
@@benpatterson2878 ok mate
I’m commenting on this webzone because I want a pizza roll.
Now I've analyzed this film with a team of cheerleaders, and they came up with one unanimous conclusion; that if I let them go they promise they won't tell nobody.
🤣
Ohnyways...
i remember watching this when i was WAAAAY younger. now that i can actually comprehend this i wont stop rolling on the ground. you can make a kid in 2020 laugh. good job. fuckin legends
The basement part is awesome
Now that you mention it it is funny how similar he sounds to James Gumb character from Silence of the Lambs.
thinking it the whole time even before the basement reference
Spoiler: The space supplies were makeup, and hair things :(
And they were all for the queen ):
Belegur Mastema Wait, are you serious? Make-up? Wow... just... wow.
Mind=blown
omg when he said gay robots i lost it! lmfao!
+Son Goku You and I both. litterally laughed out loud! hahjahahaha
+Son Goku Wait, they have cloned me?
Son Goku apparently! :O
+Son Goku Now I'm scared. o.o
'Murica! Freedumb!
hideo kojima could learn a thing or two about "show don't tell", "don't waste my time", and "less is more"
+Eclipse Those were all bullet points on the back of his game design textbook, but the Colonel never told him to actually read them.
+Eclipse He does know them, thats why you have MGS MGS2 and MGS3 which are all masterpieces. But after 30 years of doing the same franchise you are bound to fuck up. MGS5 has the best gameplay, and maybe the worst story.
still no, he never learned these aspects even for those games
and 4
+grimreaper2219 Collins and Meyer have bigger problems to deal with. Namely, don't be so pretentious in your writing in Collins' case, and just fuck off in Meyer's.
The Rick Berman line was good
I hears Rick vermin...
“What is it with Rick’s?”
If only he knew.
my boss’ name is Rick...they’re the worst.
13 years later and I'm still patiently waiting for my pizza rolls in the mail
Now we know why every scene is so dense. When the scene has no importance to the story then it's boring. Instead of removing the scene they decided to try making it important by shoving more shit into the scene but that didn't solve the underlying problem. Overstuffing a dry turkey isn't going to make it moist.
"Overstuffing a dry turkey isn't going to make it moist."
That's true. It never works with my girlfriend.
You... grew the turkey yourself?
I remember, when seeing this as a kid, "why are these beige chicken-headed droids so much less threatening to me?" Aside from their appearance it's the language at work. Having the baddies be "droids from the trade federation" instead of the imposing terminology of Storm Troopers from the GALACTIC EMPIRE
What I want to know is why they didn't design new droids. Why would they use ineffective models? Were they cheaper to make and able to mass produce them, or they were being tight-wads and didn't want to spend the money for better models to fight the Jedi and Clones?
***** Your raise a very good point. Also...did the droids still need control ships to operate in episode 2 like in the first movie? Why not just have the clones blow those up and have the whole army fall down like piles of scrap metal?
Felipe Laser They should have the droids be more like the Geth in Mass Effect. Have you played Mass Effect? Well the Geth gain complexity the more of them there are in close proximity. That's what they should have done.
The Geth are a prime example of how freaky robo-baddies can be. God knows they gave me the heeby-jeebies, especially those husks. I had to do the derelict freighter with the lights on at full blast to get through that. Funny how Bioware (both here and in KOTOR) can make stories that would make much better Star Wars movies than Lucas. ME is more a little more sci-fi than Star Wars BUT at it's core I believe it's a Space Opera/Space Cowboy epic that has plenty of qualities that would make for a GREAT Star Wars movie. It's aesthetic has been surprisingly influential in sci-fi movies, the most recent being Guardians of the Galaxy (that city scene where the protagonists are all fighting to get a hold of the Orb thingy looks JUST like the Citadel interior with a little Logan's run thrown in).
***** The problem there is that Lucas didn't fair well in some cases regarding continuity even though you're right and he was probably concerned about continuity. Of course then he started the ret-con blight.
I like reviews like this that talk to me like I'm dumb, because when it comes to critically analyzing movies, I am.
To protect my ego I call it "easily immersed."
I grew up with the Prequels and used to think they were just as good as the Original Trilogy and would have defended anyone who talked shit about them. But after seeing Force Awakens, the Clone Wars TV show and rethinking about the whole Original Trilogy and watching theses Plinkett Prequel reviews I finally see how much ass the Prequels are.
Pretty accurate though I'd have given Menace a 3 or 4. Clones a 2 or 1. And Sith a 5.
I'd rather watch all 3 prequels back to back than the shit that is Force Awakens.
Then I guess you'd rather watch three boring badly directed movies with horrible acting that shits all over the lore of Star Wars, sucks all the fun out of it and makes Darth Vader a whinny joke then right? Get fucking real mate. Let me guess you hate Awakens cause it copies from a New Hope right? Sorry but it's still better then the shit that was the Prequel Trilogy. Awakens didn't fuck up the lore to large extent the Prequels did. Hell the Holiday Special and Ewok Adventure are better then all Prequels combined.
***** If that is indeed his reason, then it's a pretty weak reason why that makes it worse the Prequels.
so what kind of _"educated adult"_ needs to create favourite orders for movies again, exactly?
"It's mindboggling how complex the awfulness is" This reminds me of quotes made by Douglas Adams, had me in splits!
I wonder if George Lucas has watched this...
I bet he was well aware of it for a while and finally watched it when he got drunk and depressed. He probably agrees with most of it.
I kinda wish he hadn't of insinuated that the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred as part of World War One. Reason being is that some people may take that seriously in today's day and age. Funny as hell to the rest of us though.
3rdOfficerTaylor Anything can be misconstrued by ignorant people. There are almost certainly people walking away from this video who love the prequels and believe this review was all sarcastic. If somebody has a joke they want to make, it's best that they just make it, even if 80% of people might not get it.
3rdOfficerTaylor Geez, you stupid people gotta learn history right.
Judging from the comments, quite a few people took it seriously
+3rdOfficerTaylor Why would we care if someone is stupid enough to take that seriously
kids watching the senate was hilarious.
“I sure am tired of all these Star Wars.”
-William Shakesman
"I said quiet, I'm making my review!"
I just keep imagining Soos doing the voice over
Him or his real dad! XD
+Hwarming WHY!!! cant unhear!!!!!
***** Character from Gravity Falls, his voice is really similar to Plinkett's.
haha!
I CAN NEVER UNHEAR THAT NOW
THANKS A LOT :|
These reviews actually make me glad that the prequels exist now. They've given them some redeeming value by providing an outlet to bash them in such an entertaining fashion.
There are so many simps of Lucas these days. I guess in comparision to Disney writers he must seem like a super genius.
That poor Qui Gon Sucker
Yeah, they didn't even eat the sucker.
haha wow this guy is fuckin genius
I gotta say, about the topic of clutter ruining the shots, one of the things I think the cinematography of the originals did so well as to craft these shots which highlighted a particular character or object and lent it dramatic relevance. I think one of the best examples is one of my favorite shots in any movie, being the one of Vader standing on the staircase after challenging Luke on Cloud City. There's all this cool techno stuff around him, as well as dramatic mist, but none of it distracts from the imposing figure of the Dark Knight, whose massive silhouette stands out against the background.
This review is EPIC. Fucking brilliant and nails exactly why TPM was utter SHITE.
No its an awful review that's mostly nitpicking .
+JedimindhaX I could say the same for you .
+Hamani Omarah it was really not nitpicking. He's talking about big flaws that were very important to be right.
You maybe don't see the flaws, but that doesn't mean that you're right and we're wrong
+Orenar oh trust me it was nitpicking . He takes small problems or things that aren't really problems and makes them big problems or flaws . I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong . But you can't deny that most of what he says is nitpicking .
+Hamani Omarah small problems? The plot is a small problems?
I want a good plot, not just actions scenes
Oh my god dude. This is funnier than full length feature comedy movies.
I’m sure the secret to making the ultimate film, game, or book can be found by listening to plinkett and reading his viewers comments.
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Yuuup
I remember when I was younger I thought I loved this movie only because of the pod race. Then I saw it in theater in 3D and wondered “why am I so bored”
It was a little event you might have heard of, it wasn't a big deal, you know, but you might have heard of it, it was called WORLD WAR 1
😂
I love how it constantly cuts him off at the end of every sentence
I don't know why but it's really fucking funny to me
I cannot properly convey how much I love these videos.
"In fact, this scene is so genius, I'm sure George Lucas had nothing to do with it" -you sir, earned a subscriber.
I saw the basement scene out of context a long time ago and genuinely thought something was wrong.
This time around I lost my shit.
"In fact this is so genius, I have a feeling that George Lucas had nothing to do with it and probably fought against putting it in the movie." This is probably my favorite quote out of all the Plinkett videos. It's such a scathing comment
its so good coming back to this review again and realize that the prequels were pretty much as bad, or worse than the disney sequels.
because once again people start claiming that the prequels were actually good and lumb them together with the OT as if all the "older star wars movies" were actually great ...
yeah no
The prequels were far worse. For me they had virtually no redeeming features. The sequels were a bit of a mess but at least they had likeable/interesting characters and (apart from TROS) were generally coherent and made sense
@@philcorrigan5641 The prequels are also coherant and make sense.
@@fearedjames no theyre not😂
@@JC19171 How so? They have simple and easy to understand stories.
@@fearedjames no they don't. The stories are incoherent
The way his voice reverbs and the audio cuts out whenever he purposely gets a historical event wrong still takes me out 😂
"Fuck you Rick Berman you ruined this too. Wait that ain't Rick Berman... What is it with Ricks?"
All those years I could not figure out what's wrong with those prequels. Watching this, it all makes so much sense now. My mind can live free again. I feel so relieved!
Not many things about this review make sense though.
Nadine really does have some nice teddies.
The woman in the basements name is Nadine? Whose that?
This segment of this review has more insight into film language than the Nostalgia Critic’s entire catalog across 18 years.
Idk what you mean by "film language" here
Just waiting on a Star Wars Force Awakens review
Not coming.
If he does review it I get the feeling he'll do it in the same style as his Star Trek (2009) review. So any of the retarded ass haters who want him to bash it are gonna be disappointed. lol
Forgive us for expecting a bunch of hacks who claim to be qualified film critics with objectivity to apply the same methods of objective quality to every film in the franchise. Until they do Plinkett reviews for A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, and The Force Recycled, their opinions ought not be taken seriously or as any sort of actual film critique from impartial critics.
right after rescuing the queen on naboo as she's being lead to some unseen camp, why don't the jedi go arrest nute gunray then and there? what exactly was their plan after getting into an occupied city anyway? i mean, if they hadn't stumbled upon padme, what would they have done?
they attempted to arrest nute on the command ship, so they obviously have that in mind. and given that they allow a girl and some other guys to go capture them in the end, they must have thought it was a manageable task, yeah? the battledroids, after all, 'aren't a problem.' so, there's no reason to think the jedi are intimidated by the droids that may or may not be guarding nute in the throne room.
you're the jedi: you have the element of surprise, you're in the city, you know the droids are likely engaged elsewhere doing droid shit during an occupation, you know the general whereabouts of the bad guys and can catch them off-balance before they dig their heels in and possibly set up defensive positions making it hard if not impossible to get back to this very spot later... so they decide the plan should be to risk their lives running a blockade and come back in a couple of daze, hopefully after the senate, who hasn't done shit for you so far, makes it all okay?
just go get nute while you're right fucking there, you fucking morons!
jeez, can you believe some people actually think this bullshit makes any sense?
that's pretty much how i derive entertainment from this, by poking at every. single. scene. because almost literally every scene can be torn apart for its stupidity, logic, dialogue, etc. etc. etc.
...etc. etc. etc.....
sure, i could stand on the edge of a bottomless pit, but that sounds like a lot of walking, and why go to that trouble when the PT is right here?
I feel like Mr. Plinkett could write great Star Wars prequels.
Seen Space Cop?
Ehhhhhhhhh......
His whole idea of rewriting the story so it was more like how Germany got into WWII would have worked at least on a couple levels. Logically because the events would flow more realistically, since, it has happened, and also it would connect with the original trilogy in the sense that the original borrowed a lot from WWII films. How the writers missed that opportunity is astounding.
If anything plinkett (mike and rich) wouldn't even want the prequels to exist in general. So plinkett would just tell lucasfilm to go fu## themselves
What is it with children's entertainment that they want to involve taxes in it?
I feel like this video would have been a bit funnier if they only showed the girl in the basement like once, just as the camera was passing by
+1
critics aren't creators
Nah. That would've been the easy, obvious and predictable way to go. Instead they went somewhere way more elaborate and fucked up, which is objectively more creative
It's 2023 and I am watching this masterpiece for the first time. The cellar csene killed me . LMAO
Do you guys ship Pizza Rolls internationally?
Cause I live in the UK and I really want a pizza roll.
Every year I revisit all these reviews. They're golden.
These are the most brilliant, in depth reviews I've ever watched!