MONGOLIA SHAMANS, FATE, AND TRUSTING THE JOURNEY

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  • Meet my niece, Heidi. Heidi lives in Mongolia but spent much of her childhood in California so she is truly bilingual and bi cultural. As I spend my time here in Mongolia with shamans and doing shamanism myself Heidi comes with me as my translator and trusted sort of cosmic assistant. She and I have learned a lot about shamanism in Mongolia over the years. I've noticed our direct experiences are vastly different than how shamanism is most often discussed outside of here. So we made this video for sharing about our experiences. We discuss shamanism, looking for predators on social media using magic, the challenges of growing up bi cultural, and the loss that comes with becoming a shaman. And a lot more. Spoogle! Come along!
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    Hi, I'm Frances! So here's the story... In 2014 I was working as a clinical psychologist in private practice after finally having completed my PhD and licensing in the USA. I suddenly began having experiences that are far far far beyond the understanding of current western psychology. 👻 I immediately knew I was not "crazy" but that meant something even stranger... clinical psychology had got a lot wrong! Not having answers for myself about what happened to me I decided to close my practice, left psychologist life completely, and moved to Nepal. Ok, yeah this was maybe a bit of an intense move but I was desperate for answers about myself. Eight years later my life is wildly different. I've since lived in over 200 places across many lands including Mongolia, Greenland, India, Mexico, Iceland, and way up in the arctic in Sápmi on Norway side. My journeys are full of living in beautiful places and sharing space with exceptional humans. My heart is set on letting people in on this journey with me so we can all learn together. Reality is much more mysterious and magical than we were ever told in schools in the west!
    I now am working as a sacred healer and I am trained by Shamans in Mongolia. Mongolia is about the closest I have to a home these days. My work includes doing healings and very occasionally training others. Since my life is has become something quite uncommon I realized I wanted to share my experiences with others. This channel is a way for me to share these incredible journeys, outward and inward, with you. Thanks for stopping by!
    If you'd like to know more of my full story this video has all the juicy details!
    A Strange Love: How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love Talking To Spirits
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  • @damienk7156
    @damienk7156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    psychologist practicing shamanism that's about the most interesting thing I've heard in a long time . your demeanor obviously alludes to the fact the things that you know and understand are special. Very curious as to what your thoughts are on the mysteriousness of this life ? so many questions !

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your comment. I can appreciate the humor and harmony now of a psychologist now as a shaman but it was a few years at the beginning of feeling completely shattered. Now I see this as a beautiful continuation of my interest in exploring consciousness. My undergraduate degree was in Cognitive Science. So I suppose my studies now just continue but from less western ways of knowing, doing, being, and seeing. Lots more to come. Soon I'll be back to Sápmi Norway for the winter.

    • @damienk7156
      @damienk7156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Extraordinary Journeys of a Dropout Psychologist I feel that words have lost their true meanings in our post modern society. They are spoken often only as a means to an end rather than to convey a felt emotion . With your increased level of consciousness now
      Do you find yourself using words more responsibly in general ? Do you associate more meaning behind words that you say or hear now ?
      What do words like vanity and gluttony make you feel.

    • @Karina-Loves-Andreas
      @Karina-Loves-Andreas ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't wait to see your videos from Sápmi Norway. Will be exciting :)

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@damienk7156 Thanks for this interesting question. I sit with this myself. Something I found interesting is I experience a social expectation of more words shared in some cultures and communities than others. For example, I am in circle with daoist practitioners. These are very comfortable spaces for me. In these spaces I feel no pressure to ask or say anything more than essential functional words. I enjoy the space this creates for reflection in self and others. I speak much less and it feels a more comfortable fit for me. My personal demeanor seems to gravitate to a short and direct communication style. Here in Mongolia people seem to talk in a more indirect way. And Norway, well I find people there talk a LOT. It's bothersome to me if I am honest about it. And people there seemed to find my more minimal communication style uncomfortable. So to be a good community member I find myself talking in Norway sometimes more than is in alignment with myself internally. This moving between so many cultures has been really wonderful because I've come to see how relative so much can be. I no longer see any of this as right or wrong. And I just try to observe and learn about myself. So many variables to consider and some cultures are more community minded, more more individualistic. In general I talk a lot less now. I'm actually alone and quiet most of the time. It suits me well. I find talking more and more exhausting.
      I am also thinking about interesting conversations I've had here in Mongolia with bilingual speakers of English and Mongolian. My sense is Mongolian is a much more rich and alive language than English and it seems there are often conversations that just can't be translated well because English lacks the words, which to me means it lacks the concepts. The relationship between language choices and experiences of consciousness is a very interesting topic.
      Also, sometimes I do find a "fuck" is just what is needed and nothing else will do. Never in aggression, but sometimes it feels good on my tongue. 🥰

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Karina-Loves-Andreas Thanks for your comment! A lot more from Mongolia still even after I leave. I have a lot of videos left to edit. I don't know how these social media producers do it so timely. I will be sharing things from here slowly for months I think. And yes soon back to Sápmi. Excited about some ideas I have for videos to share there.

  • @aramiebloom7257
    @aramiebloom7257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This charming exchange was a piece of what got me through this finals week in Kentucky. (Such medicine!! 😆🙌) 💜 Thank you!!

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rooting for you! Best part about finals is when they are over they are done! Unlike spirit lessons. 🤓 This is just some silly hedge to jump over. You already know everything you need to know now. You got this. I’ll share your message with Heidi. I know it will mean a lot to her.

  • @anselene8119
    @anselene8119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very heartwarming conversation and sharing. I felt touched by both many times, I especially appreciate the reminding that we don't have to be perfect to be perfect, that our struggles don't mean that we can't get close to the spiritual. Very important for me as being affected by new age spirituality for years I thought and made to believe that struggling in life means that I am away from the spiritual. And also that we can struggle with our lives and still be capable to maintain loving relationships with others.

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for your comment. You aren't the first person to make this comment or something similar about my approach being a sort of salve to their experiences in new age spirituality so I think I'll probably start to talk about this a little more here, as it's of interest to people. I'm sorry you were ever made to feel less than perfect. You are absolutely exactly where you are supposed to be and completely amazing for being here. None of this is something earned. It just is. 💚

  • @originhealing
    @originhealing ปีที่แล้ว

    In your experience. What is the importance of having a physical journey versus staying at home with your "normal" life but occasionally training online or visiting workshops and retreats

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really strongly believe there is no One path. My path involves no home and lots of moving about. But it's not necessary. That just happens to be happening to me. I know people who are a lot like me who move rarely if ever from their homes. I'm actually alone a LOT and listen to Buddhist teachings almost daily. I have my 4-7 teachers that I stay with over the years. I don't talk about it much in this video but I am very much on a path of a student learning from others who teach often online even. So in some ways you could say I'm not moving around much in this sense. It's all the same opportunity for peeling back the veil to seeing more. Retreats and workshops can provide transformative spaces. So can being a kindergarten teacher. I also think we are all learning from each other. I am trying to share what I have seen if it may be of benefit to others and in turn I benefit from my teachers who barely move much at all and gain great insights in their "normal" life. We are all working on this together, I strongly feel. My path is no more valid or important. The universe just seemed to decide we need one of us to move about a lot and somehow I got assigned this mission. A less common one but not more special. To be alive is to be a student of The Great Mystery.
      One of my videos from a few years ago on this channel is a conversation I had with a very good friend named Kiki. You can find it here if you are interested. She is a great example of someone who has taken a totally different path than me yet somehow we share space comfortably with shared understandings. 💚

  • @nomadchica
    @nomadchica ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i loved this whole conversation! hearing heidi at the end talk about identity was so heart-warming. but it was heart-breaking to hear her say that she's scared to go to a nice restaurant with her boyfriend and the reasons why. double standards like that are so disheartening. but heidi seems very self-aware, thoughtful, insightful, and articulate, and i could relate to a lot of what she said here about identity, as i'm sure many others can, too. :)

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so grateful to Heidi for being so open about her experiences. I didn't expect for her to get so personal but I think this is most interesting of all this video. She's so wise and so honest and open. A rare person in any place isn't she? I will be sure to tell her what you say here. I know she will feel your support. I only share all about any of this online to make some connections and create more space for us all. So to share this video and hear you could relate is so much for my soul. 🥰

  • @originhealing
    @originhealing ปีที่แล้ว

    What are walnuts....

    • @dropout.psychologist
      @dropout.psychologist  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Walnuts" is the name of a system I taught Heidi to use for spotting predators on social media using her pendulum to communicate with higher energies around her. I have absolutely no idea why the symbol came to me as "walnuts." 😄 It just as well could be "pineapples." Essentially it's a rating system. Using a pendulum Heidi asks if a person (looking at their picture) "has any walnuts." If the pendulum comes back with the answer of yes then she knows this person is not safe and not to meet him. I've since taught this to others as well and I've found it is a very simple method to increase safety for those who know how to use pendulums. Occasionally as I walk through life I'll look at a person and hear the word "walnuts" and make my way away from them. So I use it to increase my personal safety also. I hope this is an answer to your question. Feels odd to write it down and try to explain. They system arose quite organically between Heidi and I in our time together. I never anticipated I'd be sharing about it online. ☺