Watch Dogs: Legion Critique | B is for Brexit

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  • A critique of Watch Dogs: Legion - ranging from its Play As Anyone system, to London as a city, to Ubisoft as a company, but particularly focussing on its politics. What does it have to say? If it says anything at all?
    SOCIAL MEDIA: MontyZander
    PATREON: / montyzander
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00:00 - Introduction
    00:07:09 - Part 1: U is for Ubisoft
    00:17:40 - Part 2: D is for Dalton
    00:31:36 - Part 3: P is for Playing as No One
    00:48:46 - Part 4: S is for Spiderbot
    01:03:50 - Part 5: C is for Cyberpunk
    01:20:53 - Part 6: L is for London
    01:36:24 - Part 7: B is for Brexit
    02:02:08 - Part 8: E is for Ending
    Watchdogs: Legion isn’t just a bloated, buggy, misguided, boring mess. It’s also borderline offensive in its handling of the very serious crisis. Watchdogs meets Brexit sounds like a fascinating, complex match made in heaven… but what we got was an abomination. No Season Pass content, or Aiden Pearce inclusion is going to fix this. The game was a failure in principle, and shocking in practice. And that kinda just bums me out, so hoped that this wee angry breakdown will help.
    This means we’re getting political in this video. I know a lot of you joined the channel from my Bloodborne analysis, and I’ve had a couple of comments asking me to discuss some of my politics in more depth - so figured using Legion as a vehicle to do that could be quite fun!
    FOOTAGE/REFERENCES USED
    1) IGN: • Watch Dogs Legion - Ci...
    2) BBC Three: watch/?v=226...
    3) Defend The House: • Following NPCs in Red ...
    4) TNT World: • Decoded: UK-Turkey Deal
    5) NHS Privatisation: keepournhspublic.com/privatis... - NHS
    6) Ruba: • Watch Dogs: Legion - Z...
    7) YOUNG_SYLVR: • Video
    8) FactPointVideo: • Brexit: 10 Most Intere...
    9) MovieClips: • Brexit: 10 Most Intere...
    10) ArsTechnica Ubisoft Allegations
    arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/0...
    11) Bloomberg - First wave of Hascoet allegations - www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
    MUSIC
    1 - Mr Robot Theme by Mac Quayle - Composer of "Mr Robot."
    #WatchDogsLegion #Critique #Ubisoft
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  • @MontyZander
    @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    God dammit. I really missed a trick in making the letters of each part spell something.
    Watch Dogs Legion is UDPSCLBE

    • @2ndAmendmenttime
      @2ndAmendmenttime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So, we get another stay in Brexit poiltical jackass.

    • @zendariun101
      @zendariun101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@2ndAmendmenttime true true

    • @Largentina.
      @Largentina. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I loved this video and I'm becoming obsessed with your channel. However, I do have one correction. FC5 was not set in the American south. Far from it. Infact, the state it takes place in borders Canada.

    • @redkite1908
      @redkite1908 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      UDPSCLBE: The feeling of being unable to escape a sinking ship that everyone claims is perfectly waterproof.

    • @Draliseth
      @Draliseth ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that in the Cat Dictionary?

  • @nrc1965gm
    @nrc1965gm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    "Please don't accuse us of having an opinion" is such a perfect summary. This analysis was great, and I enjoyed how you tied in the actual controversial events the game was trying to capitalize on without having to do something drastic like maybe making a someone feel uncomfortable.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thanks! I appreciate it big time. I think I reworked this script half a dozen times because I was worried about that.

    • @crapnuggets202
      @crapnuggets202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Monty Zander shows you cared more than Ubisoft did

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    "it's only Political if Tom Clancy is involved.... but seeing as he's dead" Ubisoft, probably

  • @RG3ORG3
    @RG3ORG3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Wait. You're telling me that your own coworkers are alerted when they see you at your job?! Who though that that's a good idea?

    • @UseroneGaming
      @UseroneGaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Hey, you’re always slacking off usually. Something’s amiss.”

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      XD

    • @blackhand441
      @blackhand441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YOU SLEPT WITH MY WIFE BOB,
      *Pulls out Glock*

  • @Revenkin
    @Revenkin ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I am suddenly so glad there's no Australian games outside heartfelt Indies

    • @SageofStars
      @SageofStars ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I mean, you get love in other ways. Gundam destroys Sidney in the very first scene of the first series, actually getting to name the trope of Colony Drop after that moment.

    • @charaznable8072
      @charaznable8072 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet you're also extremely happy flat earthers doesn't believe Australia even exist! At least you're free from those weirdos.

    • @SageofStars
      @SageofStars ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@charaznable8072 To be fair, Inside Job says that they actually believe that if you fall off the edge it somehow wraps back around and dumps them in Australia....also given I made a Gundam reference, quite appropriate to have Char commenting on it.

    • @patrickbrooks2644
      @patrickbrooks2644 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mad max

    • @krystaldragons6040
      @krystaldragons6040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please can we get a Ubisoft game based on the Emu war. I would unirocaly play the hell out of that. Hell we can even have a tower system where instead of revealing a map it instead reveals radio messages sent by Cobra... Erm Emu commander.

  • @seriaasly3297
    @seriaasly3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    As an American, yes Farcry 5's pissed me off. They pussyfoot around real issues, send out clearly politically charged advertising, then just release a game that tries to "no-side" everything. All so they can maximize profits (which they don't pay taxes on) while claiming to be neutral.

    • @Kris-wo4pj
      @Kris-wo4pj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      they also made the damn crazy cult leader right for some reason. immediately stopped playing once i figured out what they were doing and i actually like far cry 5 almost as much as primal. far cry games are boring to me but faith seed and her weird drug induced plot line actually made me interested.

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    they already did the "play as anyone" gimmick in Driver: San Francisco, which is infinitely more enjoyable then any modern Ubi Game

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Man. Driver. I forgot about Driver. Damn.

    • @a.g.m8790
      @a.g.m8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hell yea and for some reason Ubisoft hate that game and have actively tried to prevent people from playing it. Before they took it off their online store for the first time in 2012 I bought it and instead of getting the game I got a apology message and instant refund. True story lol

    • @romanlinnik7441
      @romanlinnik7441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It really isn't. After having replayed it this year I realized that the gimmick essentially boils down to either grabbing a car and making a head on collision or grabbing a car to get closer to the objective. It becomes nauseating after a couple of hours. The idea is indeed fun, but the execution severely lacked in that game.

    • @TheTber123
      @TheTber123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They also did it in Liberal Crime Squad

  • @kaleidoscopickait
    @kaleidoscopickait 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    This is fantastic, so glad I found your channel! Glad you covered Ubisoft’s awful handling of the sexual assaults that happened within their company, as well as how ridiculously apolitical they try to be while making games centered around current political events.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hey appreciate it! Thanks for the comment. After Jim Sterling talking about how frustrating it is to see Ubi games covered without referencing the abuse I figured it was needed.

  • @pastelcastiel1481
    @pastelcastiel1481 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    This and Jacob Geller's Modern Warfare video are my go-to examples of video game companies being so afraid of being ""woke"" and ""PC"" they end up shitting themselves with the messages of their games. Amazing video

    • @4evermilkman
      @4evermilkman ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I dont think Legion is afraid to be woke, I think that they are just subtle with it. I found a character that was "male" but had womans clothes. Ots a subtle way to say the world is changing and Ibisoft embraces its changes in its game design

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy ปีที่แล้ว

      they shouldn't be woke at all

    • @LonelyKnightess
      @LonelyKnightess 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@4evermilkman That's not woke, it's bare minimum representation and could very well just be a bug.

    • @phangkuanhoong7967
      @phangkuanhoong7967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@4evermilkmanit's ok to enjoy the game without excusing the company's BS. no need to shill for them.

  • @alexblackmore7744
    @alexblackmore7744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Sincerely hope your channel blows up soon, your videos are incredibly well put together.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks so much man man!

  • @aran998
    @aran998 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Did anyone honestly expect Ubisoft to deliver a nuanced political take? It’s like going into a McDonalds and being upset that the food is cheap unhealthy garbage

    • @phangkuanhoong7967
      @phangkuanhoong7967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      then they shouldn't market it that way.

  • @fanboy58
    @fanboy58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I've never played the Watch Dogs series, but you still kept my attention the whole 2+ hours. Loved the mix of game analysis and political commentary--very well done!

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thanks so much man! If you can find watch dogs 2 second hand I can't recommend it enough. Had more fun with that game than I expected.

    • @elitereptilian200
      @elitereptilian200 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah Watch Dogs 2 is actually a good game.. you can "pacifist" your way through it by using non lethal guns and calling other gang members or cops to take out your targets.. I had so much fun with the game..

    • @codyoliver5375
      @codyoliver5375 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MontyZander Can you do a breakdown of Watch Dogs 2?

    • @Someone-lg6di
      @Someone-lg6di ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first was 2 and my last will be legion

  • @elsam7720
    @elsam7720 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I would love to see an immersive sim Watch Dogs like it was clearly always meant to be.
    Like Hitman except with hacking things instead of killing people.

  • @guilhermesantos8728
    @guilhermesantos8728 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So, would you cover the other Watch Dogs games? The realistic take on the fantasy of vigilantism, the attempt to cope with trauma and move on, the insecurity-based search for power, the way the series goes from personal vendetta to semi-social activist to full on activism?

  • @lewislewis3531
    @lewislewis3531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a factory worker, the worst part about brexit was when my English colleagues were cheering about turning away foreigners; half the staff were European, from Poland usually, and they were our friends. My colleagues didn't grasp that they were trying to get rid of our friends.
    And a good portion of those European staff left, meaning we all had to work much harder. The young English lads hired as replacements were, generally, lazy, entitled and difficult to train.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Uff, also imagine characters like on board becaus ethey are mad their friends got deported. As, sad and unnessesary and , sad thatr is, uff
      Like imagine the gamre covered that ersonal stories, that could be amazing, in a game, about brexit?! As sad that a party went through several premiers to, do brexit of all things :( it could make important stotytelling :( just add how people get deported and ,
      How could a brexit game not have that human.:(
      While its probably , like if the game already gets overly dramatic, do that shocking human instead. I know its bad enough that what happens, but for a game going to the logical conclusions fully , as much as its really, bad, i mean it could have been very human deportation stories?

  • @ethanpriest157
    @ethanpriest157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Man, I love these super long videos. There's so much depth to the thoughts you have concerning the way games can impact the world in a real sense, and I simply can't get enough

  • @shikatsu
    @shikatsu ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ah yes Ubisoft, "We don't want to be political..." while trying to strip mine almost every major historical movement good and ill as a game hub....*Sighs in former assassins creed fan*

  • @Sequelaboy7
    @Sequelaboy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Dude, I mean mate, you've hit all the right points about what this game got wrong. I've seen no one else talking about this.
    Instead most players are are turning a blind eye to the fact that the story sucks because they only care about multiplayer.
    You got just a few things wrong in regards to Skye's AI systems going rogue and Sabine's plan. Both the Hospital and Cab Driver AI were edited copies of those professionals' minds. Skye did to them what she did to her mother and brother.
    The whole point of the game is to gather "upgrades" for Sabine. She controls us around as her personal tools to get everything from the AR reconstruction tech to the THEMIS program, going through Skye's data so she could merge everything into Bagley to make him the ultimate random killing machine.
    I guess it's a poor way of escalating on the example set by Raymond Kenney when he caused the Balckout in Chicago when the first ctOS was implemented. He was trying to show that the system was flawed from the start but it didn't work. Worse still, 11 people died. Ray regrets that.
    Sabine's plan seem to mimic his in the intent, but with much worse in the collateral damage part. She is definely a terrorist and it's a shame we get bossed around by a character like her the whole game just for it to end like that

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Perfect example of why triple checking a script is always a good idea! My bad. Appreciate it!

  • @gagaplex
    @gagaplex ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's interesting to think that the "play as anyone" doesn't work to create connections to the characters here. I mean, yes, they're husks. But so are the soldiers in X-COM Enemy Unknown or X-COM 2 War of the Chosen. They are randomly generated and you can customize them. And if you keep them alive, you grow attached to them, especially if they somehow survive a terrible situation or if they pull victory from the jaws of defeat for you. Why doesn't this happen here? Do the operatives in this game advance in any way? Like the light RPG elements that the X-COM games have? It sounds like they remain static and therefore interchangeable - whereas a husk that grows and develops alongside you and becomes more important to your success, well, you'll care more about them.

  • @trishtrash9339
    @trishtrash9339 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    47:49
    “If a person is not an anarchist when he is black, he has no heart; if she is not an amateur boxer when she is forty, she has no head."

  • @Captain_Midnight
    @Captain_Midnight ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Personally, I think the game is way better when you play as either Aiden, Wrench, or roleplay as the pig guy on all the box art. It doesn't fix all of Legion's problems, but it does give you a real fleshed out character to play as, and less pressure on playing human vehicles

  • @775315
    @775315 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hit all the nails on the head. I know it’s been ages but I am crazy curious to hear your long form thoughts on the dlc featuring Wrench and Aiden. I loved it. Felt like a different game at times JUST because there was a defined main character. Also school of rock? Incredible taste

  • @ryanfrankwilson
    @ryanfrankwilson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Video, looking forward to seeing more of your work. Super well thought out and researched.

  • @a.g.m8790
    @a.g.m8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video is amazing even if you’ve never played the game. I legit clicked on it by accident but stayed for the UK commentary 👍🏾

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shit thanks! Not gonna lie I was a little worried about this one so really appreciate it.

  • @detrik01
    @detrik01 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This was an excellent video, Monty Zander. I highly doubt you and I have the same politics, but it's always great to see a video essay that so adeptly communicates these types of critiques with video games, especially ones like Ubisoft which go out of their way to latch onto some political or social gimmick, especially in their marketting. I think Legion could have benefitted from embracing a faction system where players are given the option to side with Albion or DedSec, and champion their respective factions across the map. I think there is something narratively wasteful about locking players into some designated "good guy" faction (in this case, DedSec) in a story about murder, hacking, the invasion of privacy, and dubious characters and factions whose loyalty you cannot be certain of. Just my two cents.

    • @SageofStars
      @SageofStars ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That would have been an interesting idea. I still think the only game I've played where the binary choice system worked was Geneforge, and that's because the choice was 'Support the Authoritarian Mages who run the society with biological golems' or 'Support the rebellion, where those golems are trying to overthrow society...to install dragons as the new autocratic dictators over all'. It's well done because both are evil, and both are good, in part because they're organizations. You see that throughout that series.
      Here, you could have done something similar. The head of deadsec is a pure anarchist, and wants to 'Bring Down the Man', that is, pure anarchy, no government at all, while the head of Albion is...well, the guy we got.
      But beneath them are those doing things for other reasons. Deadsec has people trying to save others, Albion has officers that live up to their ideals, and even jump in the way of bullets to save civilians.
      On the opposite side, there's a member of Deadsec specifically trying to steal a certain amount of money, not for any reason, they're not taking it, they're just burning it because that's the joke. Meanwhile there's a member of Deadsec falsifying paperwork in order to steal the heirlooms from religious sites and stuff, to sell to the highest bidder.
      And you're in the middle of that. Both groups, you have to accept the good with the bad, as you are a member of them, and can't...choose for them. Hell, you should BE Baggly in this, the control should be justified in universe as you giving the objectives, and 'playing' as them through implants or a headset.

  • @JamesTrifolium
    @JamesTrifolium 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know what I find hilarious? People thought this game was so bad that Ubisoft had to not only release it on Steam two years later after bad-mouthing the platform, but they also had to pay influencers to play it and say good things about it.

  • @ChamiKhan13
    @ChamiKhan13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as someone who has been desperately searching youtube for long form content about video games (more specifically horror games but this is brilliant too) i am so happy i found your channel. the amount of times i have legitimately searched "video essays about horror games" on youtube is embarrassing and yeah i get that this isn't a horror game but it's still amazing commentary and yeah i'm gonna be here for a while lmao

  • @AnonyMous-wo1vm
    @AnonyMous-wo1vm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would like to note that at 10:54, Far Cry 5 is actually set in the american north, the very far north, touching canada - mucking things up even further, politically speaking in relation to ubisoft's apolitical political nonstatements

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a bloody good point.

  • @exogris
    @exogris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait man! As always pure quality!

  • @nwsmith9
    @nwsmith9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I seriously cannot believe your channel has so few views. I catch myself being surprised at the 3 digit view numbers every time. You have the quality and depth in your videos of channels that are so much larger. Keep it up and you'll do incredibly well. Love all your stuff Monty. Do you have a patreon account?

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks my dude! Appreciate it! I don't, not yet. I don't want to have one unless I know I can commit to it regularly the the videos. Soon though!

  • @pixelshaketv
    @pixelshaketv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just found this channel and wanted to say keep it up. Loving the content.

  • @Shinigami88X1
    @Shinigami88X1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They could of have Sky Larson ans Sabine working together using clan kellu and albion to steal key people to test her Project Daybreak. They could of left Brexit in the background and Cass as a evil neutral rather than maim antagonist

  • @sleepingbeast9351
    @sleepingbeast9351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man I loved your critique because you hit the nail on the head for me. Thankfully I didn't buy it myself but I pity my friend who was dumb enough to preorder the game. anyway love your videos and just commenting for the algorithm because you deserve a bigger platform in my opinion.

  • @SpookyShayOClery
    @SpookyShayOClery ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this. Glad I found your channel, this deserves many more views.

  • @stefandemoll1478
    @stefandemoll1478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This a great channel! All around very well done!

  • @Tehsnakerer
    @Tehsnakerer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved this video, but I think you got the ending a little off, not that I can blame you, I'm not entirely sure what happens and the way I perceived it is no less stupid in execution than what you saw. Sabine helped Cass with the bombing for Filament codes. He reneged on the deal so she reformed Dedsec to lead them into getting the Filament codes for her (and all the other tech they nabbed).
    It's really roundabout and convoluted either way.

  • @fayealbertson265
    @fayealbertson265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The opening of this video is an incredible video to watch at the end of 2022.

  • @manumitul
    @manumitul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really good. Surprised your channel doesn't have more subs. You've got one from me.

  • @carlisle6831
    @carlisle6831 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can’t put my finger on why but the watchdog series has never interested me

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I honestly can't recommend 2 enough if you're looking to dip your toe. I had A LOT of fun with that game that I didn't expect I would at first.

    • @brainiac_studio
      @brainiac_studio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WD1 is amazing

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brainiac_studio Jumping back into it for this video made me realise it wasn't nearly as bad as everyone says. I had fun with 1 at the time!

    • @covert9528
      @covert9528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MontyZander playing Legion made me realize that i like WD2 a lot more than i thought I did. As you point out in the video, the level design is so much more thoughtful and there are some very effective story/character beats.
      At the time of playing it originally I think I let myself get put off by the negatives without appreciating the positives.

    • @TehTezMan
      @TehTezMan ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a Ubisoft product... That's was enough for me. They have a very efficient assembly line production for gameplay, just as much as Activision with COD. Rote and boring basically since AC2, with a few notable exceptions which are well regarded, but those are rare like Black Flag.

  • @GoteTBH
    @GoteTBH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aaay, let's go Monty! i'm one of those that ended up here through your bloodborne video.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fuck yes! Let me know your thoughts on the new style when you finish it; less cutscenes etc - appreciate it my dude!

  • @Rlyeh90
    @Rlyeh90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You sir, deserve more views (and likes, and subscribes)! I have been binge watching your videos for 2 days now, and I've really enjoyed my time here.

  • @nathantyler7857
    @nathantyler7857 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was 100% anti brexit, immigrants have been integral to our economy. What are your thought a few years down the line?

  • @woodearthdvd
    @woodearthdvd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Didn’t expect… Jimmy Johns”. Ad came on right at that moment. I was listening to the video in the background and seriously thought that was a plot twist and the game, in the end, was actually all about the evils of the fast food industry.

  • @MegaCygnusX1
    @MegaCygnusX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When creepy anorak stalker and personality black hole Aiden Pierce from Watchdogs has more agency and charisma than the entire cast of your the third game, *combined*, then you know you dun goofed.

  • @zvndmvn
    @zvndmvn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great video. Well done!

  • @TheXell
    @TheXell ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You want intriguing reflections on modern politics and deep lore to the factions involved?
    Too bad.
    *SPIDERBOT*

    • @SageofStars
      @SageofStars ปีที่แล้ว

      Its doing its best, okay? It's not its not its fault that it's in an Ubisoft game.

  • @josesosa3337
    @josesosa3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why would you sidestep politics if you are inspired by politics? They just wanted to use hot topics to sell their games? It clearly didn't work. Games have to be about something!!! Plot ?themes? How does the gameplay tie into it all? Of course these games were gonna fail.

  • @codyoliver5375
    @codyoliver5375 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sky Larsen choice is explained away after the mission anyway because if you keep her alive the company decides to shut down the cloud right after
    You catch a news report saying they are shutting it down

  • @xlnyc77
    @xlnyc77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd like to consider myself a relatively intelligent 'Merican and I've learned more about Brexit in the past 2 hours than I have in over 3 years.

  • @GordonFreemanlvr
    @GordonFreemanlvr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just found your channel love your videos

  • @spacebeagle3576
    @spacebeagle3576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Far Cry 5 tried to be about the far right, but it was so wrong that it just offended me as an American

  • @Engel_Regime
    @Engel_Regime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another quality video. I don't often have the time to fully watch most of your videos, but I wanted to leave a comment nonetheless. I particularly enjoyed the political commentary. I think it adds something to the video that a more typical critique wouldn't. I would say keep up the good work, but at the rate you pump these out, I don't think you need my encouragement. Best of luck with the channel.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The engagement's appreciated all the same my dude 😉 a shorter one coming soon.

  • @mhmmkay
    @mhmmkay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally, the greatest sin of legion is removing the ability to make your own in game playlist, you are forced to listen to the 'radio'

  • @lol_vevo
    @lol_vevo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I hate the most about this game (besides all of the obvious) is that it went full futuristic. WD1's setting was just Chicago, there were no crazy robots, no flying bots, no bs.
    WD1's premise was that it wasn't a "dark future", it was a dark present. Absolutely no technology in WD1 is fictional, everything exists in the real world. The premise is "what if Google was given control of a city's infrastructure". That's it.

  • @criminalchicken499
    @criminalchicken499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. When I heard this I thought I was listening to a top channel. Was so surprised to see you only have 990 subs. In subbing!

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! So close to the golden 1K!

    • @criminalchicken499
      @criminalchicken499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MontyZander just realized you were the one who made the bloodborne eat the rich and kill god! I loved that video

  • @eloujtimereaver4504
    @eloujtimereaver4504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'A Taxi AI has become self aware and is furious because he thinks automation has made him lose his job.'
    Then he is not very self aware is he?

  • @olzhas1one755
    @olzhas1one755 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    42:57 I think a response system like in Cyberpunk 2077, where the outcome doesn't change much but the dialogue itself changes on depending on your response would work well in this system. I mean, it would still strip the NPCs of their personalities, but you could at least dictate something to them.

  • @mikeshepparduk
    @mikeshepparduk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, agree with a lot of your points. I'd recommend if possible that you go back and check out the Bloodline DLC for Legion. Actually having a 'Main Character' removes all the problems with the APC system, and provides some pretty interesting story beats. Not much changes from a gameplay point of view, still loads of 'hang around hacking the thing' bits (and they give the spider drone the ability to fly), but I think much more what the game would have been if they'd let you play as Nowt or something.

  • @tamagothchic
    @tamagothchic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I dont mean to enjoy your suffering but the accent getting stronger when the game makes you mad is great 😂

  • @Philber22
    @Philber22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now THIS one feels like a passionate teardown. Well researched and great delivery.
    I managed to find some surface-level fun with Legion by making my own headcanon stories, but it still managed to lose me despite actively trying to enjoy my time with it.

  • @travtuck7646
    @travtuck7646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As vapid as I'm quite sure the new Watchdogs title is, Monty Zander still manages to squeeze 2-1/4 hrs of content from it. Quite masterful in my humble opinion

  • @Bloodlinedev
    @Bloodlinedev ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if the game was about how a fascist state forms, how propaganda plays the masses, the role of the media, how both sides always think they are right, how things in life are never binary AND had the hacking of Uplink (or comparable titles), which actually make you feel like you are hacking something. I'd sell my mum for an open world game with actual immersive sim (computer) systems which can be exploited and hacked. And OK, let the players who don't want to hack explode and shoot their way through, just, instead of adding useless **** minigames and melee combat, do a proper hacking simulation in your HACKING game.
    Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

    • @declanjones8888
      @declanjones8888 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think your on to something.

  • @donutdog1937
    @donutdog1937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yea my mum is a nurse in the nhs so both me and her got covid first few months even now she’s still being underpaid even though she’s been working there for decades

  • @logancade342
    @logancade342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The TH-cam algorithm is failing if it took this long for me to discover your page. You are a phenomenal talent and I'm looking forward to watching your entire catalog multiple times.

  • @Chaosqueenngami
    @Chaosqueenngami 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stormzy! I stumbled across his music on Spotify and have been hooked since. I try not to learn to much about artists whose works I like unless their tools. But It’s nice to know that he is actually a good person.

  • @kylebrekke6540
    @kylebrekke6540 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your points on the 'play as anyone' feature reminds me of a pretty major issue with the pre-written "Beyond the Mountains of Madness" campaign for the Call of Cthulhu TTRPG. If your group is playing the campaign as-written, there are multiple situations in the beginning and middle of the campaign that--should none of the players in the game be able to find their solution--essentially involve waiting for an NPC to solve problems for the players. Despite the entire campaign taking place from the perspective of the player characters, a lot of your agency is taken away because the campaign wants things to progress a certain way.
    I think it really highlights the failure of procedural content. Experiences like this tend benefit the most from tailored content for the participants rather than generic, non-committal ones. And it's extremely challenging for procedural systems like this to be anything other than generic and non-committal without quickly falling to pieces.

  • @azeemtravadi6128
    @azeemtravadi6128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "the goal isn't to reflect on anything happenign in the real world" what's the point of telling a story then. what is the story even going to be about.

  • @woodsmason101
    @woodsmason101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im only in part 3 but I already noticed something you said about how the story requires you to play multiple people. This was done before, back in 2015 with Metal Gear Solid 5, you could recruit, play, and get upgrades depending on the people you meet in the field while also having a single main character! This could've worked if they potentially made it like a strategy game with base building! Plus they could add characters based on Aidens playstyle and Marcus and this could've led into the DLC where we play as Aiden and Wrench

  • @CanofAnxiety
    @CanofAnxiety 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know I’m late but you have to admit the trailer by the guy from Jibaro in Love Death + Robots is absolutely awesome.

  • @Creeper333pl
    @Creeper333pl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey mate so this is your first video I’ve watched and man am I glad I’ve found this channel! It’s not very often that a 2h video captures my attention for its entirety but this was just fantastic.
    I really appreciate your brexit commentary - as someone from Poland I had no idea of how it all actually went down but hearing your insight was very helpful in understanding why people chose what they chose. It also made me realize how many similarities can be found between the Brexit campaign and the 2020 presidential campaign in Poland. Your government using hatred towards immigrants as one of Brexit’s selling point is honestly parallel to our government using propaganda to spread hatred towards the LGBT community - even going as far as calling it “an organization” or “a danger to the catholic church” and referring to homosexuality as some sort of a disease
    Speaking of the game itself - I remember being very hyped for legion when it was first announced, to the point I even bought it on release day. I’ve played the game on the Xbox Series X and it run fine for the most part, the loading screens were very quick on an SSD and the ray tracing looked phenomenal - although 30fps was and still is the only option even on next generation consoles, which I find bullshit
    After spending about 21h with the game I can say that while the game did have potential it unfortunately didn’t fulfill it in the slightest. A lot of the features feel very unrefined - especially when compared to WD2. The play as anyone system felt fun for the first 5h but after that, the novelty ran off. I agree with what you said on the difficulty - some sequences felt like they weren’t play tested in the slightest, the “upload a virus to Themis” one being the worst offender. I remember kinda liking the story and some of the set pieces, like flying the microdrone or even climbing the big ben with a spiderbot, but the ending was shit and don’t even get me started on the Stormy mission. The Skye Larson quest line is obviously the highlight of the entire game and I also think that the ending side mission about Bagley’s true identity was very interesting albeit kinda depressing as well
    With all of that being said, I can’t wait to explore more of your videos. I’d also love to see you make this sort of a critique video on Cyberpunk 2077

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey! Thanks so much, I appreciate it!

  • @MoralsInSongs
    @MoralsInSongs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The start of this video hurts more with every month that passes! Happy cost of living crisis and recession everyone!

  • @Liamx-00
    @Liamx-00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just came across your channel man on a comedown and hungover and its genuinely incredible content I finally got watchdogs Ultimate Edition on sale for like £30 on ps5 the other week and it turns out the games only decent with Aiden pierce or Wrench!!! also Aiden should've been younger then 55 lol

  • @tylerkeating3784
    @tylerkeating3784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bro I've been watching a lot of long-form video essays on video games (niche TH-cam let's get it) and I just need you to know how much I enjoyed this one. Your voice was really unique in your perspective on this game, it was really refreshing. I loved the Bloodborne vid you made, but your take on this game had a rawness and (if you'll excuse the term) vulnerability I haven't seen enough from this format. Imma keep watching through your other stuff but like, I couldnt watch this joint and not send my best regards

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a lovely comment to wake up to! Cheers my dude

  • @Greil9
    @Greil9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be specific, Yahtzee Croshaw did not write Bagley's dialogue. He was hired to punch up the dialogue already written. What the difference was however, we can only speculate.

  • @aguspuig6615
    @aguspuig6615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im not even british so i dont know if what im about to say makes total sense, but i always cringed, like HARD, when seeing the new british flag in watch dogs legion, like ''oh now that brexit is a thing we are just gonna highlight the english part of the flag and put it above the rest'' its so unsubttle i dont know how it can be taken seriously, but the folks at ubisoft probably think they are creating some nuanced velibable narrative

  • @pdpMASTERP
    @pdpMASTERP 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait what bloodborne video? I only see one bloodborne video and it's his gf playing it and it came out AFTER this video... where's the bloodborne critique? Someone link it please!

  • @hydranator5162
    @hydranator5162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey man! did you make that thumbnail?
    it dope

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did yeah! I canva skills are GROWING 😂

  • @johnnymillar9056
    @johnnymillar9056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good job mate

  • @dracorex426
    @dracorex426 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They could have actually written characters and just have whichever randoms you choose be the skin they cover those characters with.

  • @redspider3513
    @redspider3513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you do an analysis on the Aiden and Wrench expansion?

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I won't - especially after E3 this year I'm exhausted with Ubisoft. The Aiden and Wrench DLC could be the best thing they've ever made and I still wouldn't want to touch it at this point!

    • @CT_Phipps
      @CT_Phipps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MontyZander Shame because I'd love to hear your thoughts.

  • @workoutfanatic7873
    @workoutfanatic7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:57 - I’m glad IO Interactive will be making the next bond title instead of the uninspired sleazy creeper that is Ubisoft. Ubisoft has never made anything half as compelling and polished as the new Hitman trilogy, except for maybe the first couple assassins creed from way back in 2007.

    • @MontyZander
      @MontyZander  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you just read my mind? GET OUTTA THERE

  • @productions-lx3qh
    @productions-lx3qh ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you Think of the Bloodline DLC? Also would you be interested in doing a retrospective on the first two?

  • @mattf967
    @mattf967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They were sticking it to the man by voting for brexit, sadly for them the man was both sides.

  • @donutdog1937
    @donutdog1937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You wanna know what annoys me about the radio gorillaz one of the biggest uk bands only has 1 song their biggest mind you but still only 1

  • @bigmaczippenzap
    @bigmaczippenzap ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First 2 minutes watching and I was already comparing this game to how far cry 5 made me feel here in the US, then a few minutes later you bring it up lol

  • @effincook4176
    @effincook4176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So farcry five is pretty on the nose with its topics. As a montana resident, I can vouch that all you have to do is remove the mysticism, swap meth for the flowers, and increase the prevalence of guns to turn it into a documentary.

  • @Shinigami88X1
    @Shinigami88X1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Niegal cass boss battle should of been like Ghost in the shell

  • @Tunayer1
    @Tunayer1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My one point of hype i got when playing this game was hearing Architects on the radio. Except it wasn't a car radio, but outside a store. And the song isn't included in the songs you can buy/unlock/whatever. So I couldn't even have good music while driving....

  • @zendariun101
    @zendariun101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I noticed How you barely mentioned WD1, tragic.

  • @Jayvenom7
    @Jayvenom7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I might have found a new favorite youtuber

  • @ngchloe4877
    @ngchloe4877 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved the commentary on Brexit and such. I found it very interesting as an American who was young and not super involved in the world news at the time

  • @alexmear5096
    @alexmear5096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something i noticed when I replayed the game is sabines plan to wipe the slate clean as she put it, reminded me a lot of what Raymond Kenny did back in 2001 in watch dogs lore where he shut down the ctos to show that the system was flawed, only she seems to come off as a psychopath who wants to kill for the fun of it, least for me but something that I really didn’t like about legion was the play as anyone feature because aside from having a few people who could bail out your operative or heal them quicker, when wrench and Aiden Pearce were added into the game I only ever used those two characters because too me there were parts of the story that worked with them

  • @stinkbanana2522
    @stinkbanana2522 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God I wish I could have experienced Brexit as a Brit

    • @Lubble-
      @Lubble- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The lead up to it, you'd think the apocalypse was coming but the day after it everyone just shrugged and moved on

  • @Dr_Bille
    @Dr_Bille 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Has the bloodborne analysis been deleted? Seen multiple videos referencing it, but all I can find is the one with your girlfriend playing it

  • @mizel101
    @mizel101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel needs more subscribers

  • @BrandenAllen
    @BrandenAllen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a good explanation of why it was so disappointing. 1 had excellent story and good gameplay. 2 had excellent gameplay and good story. 3 had neither.

  • @nova5303
    @nova5303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:14:30 total voice change when you got angry

  • @EliasFakenami
    @EliasFakenami ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In order for Brexit to be real, England would have to be real as well.
    Come on man.

    • @SageofStars
      @SageofStars ปีที่แล้ว

      This man right here straight up speakin truth to power!

  • @redspider3513
    @redspider3513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WD1 is still my favroute.

  • @chasethecringewolf2195
    @chasethecringewolf2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also should add separately the game does make commentary on facism and politics, you can find the podcasts in the car’s radios while driving.