Excellent explanation on the differences between the models and how it affects sound quality and SPL. Your discussions are down to earth and easy for novices to understand. Thank you, and keep up the great work.
Just found your channel and commenting even though 2y ago, but this applies to many of your videos i've watched so far today. Thank you for what you provide, you give us such a great detailed input and information for a legit good setup. You do a great job and its very much appreciated.
Whenever I'm deciding on buying a sub you're the go to for straight forward honest opinion, where I'm from I'm getting the L7 8 solo baric at a good price, thanks man 👍🏼👍🏼
For shallow subs I would suggest a very good xmax, heat management, very high sensitivity as well as power handling to get the same output as a larger more efficient driver
It's a worry I have with the ID8 V.4. $ Is there for the IDQ but I've heard the power handling is about the same but enclosure size is different. So on tighter space, I'll try the ID at 300 watts each. Possibly 350.... 🤷♂️
love your videos and finally someone that appreciates 8” subs. I’d love to buy 8” L7Q however, can’t seem to find any. I have a question, what would sound better under 1200watt amp. Two L7T or 1 L7X? Or would 1 L7S be good enough to fill in enough base for inside a boat cabin?
Salute!! I'm sql all day in a budget level lol, two kicker Comp C10s and a 12in kicker round Solobaric classic( ribbed cone style like comps) all rear firing, on power acoustic 2500.
I really love kickers but how much better is the Q Vs. The solo? What’s the db difference in the same size box. I’m thinking of getting the solo but if the Q is way better I’ll get 2 of those instead.
Thank you for this video! I recently purchased a Single 8" L7T 2-Ohm Truck Enclosure for my 2020 Nissan Frontier Crew cab. I have it under the rear seat on the passenger side. The enclosure is a sealed enclosure and I am powering it with a JL Audio RD 900/5. Your enclosures seem to far surpass stock enclosures. Do you think I would benefit by having you build one for my truck for the one 8?
I have a 2 door 2004 Jeep Wrangler. With the rear seat in the car what kind of box would you build for something like this? Because often jeeps have the top off a ported box does not seem to be the route to go. My first thought is a sealed enclosure. And where do you have the sub firing? Down or forward? I wouldn’t think there would be enough room for a horn box, which I would think WOULD be ideal for “throwing” the bass
Are you going to try the new kicker solo X? I know they didn’t make an 8 inch but I bet the 10’s would thump in your truck? What have you heard about them? Do you think they’re going to be really high quality?
I’m working on a can am x3 off-road side by side and wanting a sub for under the seat. There’s not much room for a sizable box and a few company’s offer sub packages that’s almost 900 for box and sub. Most say the jl 10 inch shallow mount is the best sub made for small areas. Any tips
awesome video. what would happen if you loaded the 3 in one box. give each 350 then go up from there. how that sound for a video? or I wanted your opinion, which do they sound better in ported or sealed?
want to build me a box for my (4) 12" L7T front facing for my truck under the seat, should i go 2 amps or 1 amp? besides all that, i want to see if you could build me a box for these thin kicker subs, doesnt require a bunch of air space and still rms at 600, hoping they can beat down the block still haha
Oh hell Yeah! Thanks for this one big dog🤞🏾 Them L7T 12s hit hard as a mf tho. Hopefully I can fit 2 or 3 Under the seat of my 2014 Toyota tundra double cab. You will definitely be hearing from me in the next couple of days. Baltimore about to be full of MBE shit😂
I’m sure happy you gave me the examples of all of them. For some reason I knew that solo baric is a SPL for some reason cause the bass just sloppy as hell. But I knew that Q class have better SQ than the Solo baric. They all great subs IMO..
I have a single cab Chevrolet pick up and I’m really thinking about putting a system in it i’m wanting 2 l7t subs I’ve never heard shallow mount subs in person and I don’t know anybody that has either I was wondering do they hit good
Question brotha: I got the 12” L7S from Best Buy for 386 with a box, but the L7Q was 415$ from Rockville Audio or Ebay. I was willing to pay the difference, but then Kicker said it could be counterfeit if not from Walmart, Best Buy, or a certified Kicker dealer. Did I make the right choice? Do you think the q class from Rockville Audio would be fake? And coming from Skar SDR 12 will I be happy with the L7 solobaric? I had an L7 in 2007. Not sure exactly which model, but I loved it! Hopefully it’s at least that good and I should be happy.
It's coming back to me - finally was able to dig up the 'ol pre 2008 S8L7 manuals and man, that response using a 19.5 inch port opening😂😂 "flat as a pancake" response 40 to 80 hz (even 10 and 12 in versions limped along - little Q even at Fs ) Kicker "finally" upped the Freq range from 100-500 (although above 300 you might need your head examined as voice sounds dumb coming out of any sub). It appears Xmax has also creeped up from 10 to 15 mm or so (not sure Kicker starting 2014 or so tough to find on manual. And your link where an Amazon site posted "online" TS and how the sensitivity derived "solved using Z term where the term not listed" which should cause outrage but it don't as even Kicker knew they had the perfect 8" driver, I can vouch as along as you got a good "box spring" with vent, no need to add extra bass unless you want to see windows break or hair to fly on a ladies head while sitting in passenger seat. For now I am ok with the Q class not being available, as my enclosure has sufficient flame arrestor control and I look forward to following the mfr instructions on "continuously bouncing the driver at Xmax for 4hrs set at 47hz" as to ensure efficient break in for replacemt😂❤
I bought the 10in l7T in a sealed box and I'm not impressed at all. What's the biggest box and tuning it'll handle. It's going in my c6 corvette so there's decent room
Been watching you for a min what do you think of this set up and how loud it might be. Skar rp2000.1 @ 2ohm 2 Kicker L7 Solo 10s 2 ohm @2ohm 4 cubic feet ported box @32hz Going for around 700-800 each
GREAT VIDEO! Great explanation, examples and analogies! Got my sub for sure! What’s your recommendation for a sub the needs the smallest enclosure? Preferably less than 0.5 cubic feet. Probably sealed enclosure since I’m looking for quality, accurate, punchy bass in a small space. I’m using a Kenwood Exceleron 5 channel amp sending 500w at 2 ohms and 300w at 4 ohms. Thanks man! Finally found somebody who knows what there talking about not trying to just sell me on there own shit. Keep it up bro!
I have 2 L7s 12s in a 6cu ft custom box tuned to 31hz, it seems to drop off at the frequencies I want to feel, will I get better lows with the L7 12 q classes?
@@M.B.Enclosures like it would need to be tuned lower? I used the kicker apps tune calculator and enetered in all the box and port dimensions to figure out the tuning freq and how many actual cubes it was
RESILIENT SOUNDS GOLD 8 IS $210 @1000 WATTS WHY WAST MONEY FOR THIS NO OFFENSE BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC PEOPLE DO OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN YOU SHOW THE PEOPLE BETTER PRODUCTS THEY THINK IT'S NOT WORTH THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE USE TO BUYING MORE EXPENSIVE THINGS WITH LESS QUALITY
Yeah they hit hard af! But you need 6.4" of mounting depth And 12" to 15" of port area. If you're pressed for space like I am that's a stretch. In my case all of my space is under the seat with only about 6" to 8" in hight and 50" long. 2 12" L7Ts Would be ideal for my application rather than trying to squeeze and not sound good. Those RSG 8s hit hard but the 8Q sounds more impactful.
@@FreeBlackConservative6859 I understand lack of space I'm just giving people the option to notice that it's better subs out there, I know I use to be the same way all I did is buy regular store brands like JL AUDIO and Kicker only if someone told me to look @FI Audio I would have told them they lost their mind know I have 4 Delta 15 and 4 RS platinum 18 in 2 different trucks moving 40k rms in one in the other I'm moving 16k until I break the RS platinum in, even if you choose Skar Audio you're save more money than that
@@Grownman773 Good lord!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah you hittin hittin! Man... I ain't even got started yet on this new project. I'm still researching the best options. Lord knows if I can fit it I'm putting it in cuz. I want the most Bang for the space.
Answered literally everything I needed to know by coming here. Except for mids or highs. I know they are designed mainly for lows. But was wondering which of them gives higher quality mids and highs. By highs meaning higher bass not actual highs
One of the best car audio educational channel, I really value your contribution to the audio world, thanks big bro
Excellent explanation on the differences between the models and how it affects sound quality and SPL. Your discussions are down to earth and easy for novices to understand. Thank you, and keep up the great work.
Just found your channel and commenting even though 2y ago, but this applies to many of your videos i've watched so far today. Thank you for what you provide, you give us such a great detailed input and information for a legit good setup. You do a great job and its very much appreciated.
I have two 8" L7t's behind the seat of my c10 with 350 watts on each sub. Its not a spl record setter but it gets down for what it is! Great video!
Man you are spot on with your information and delivery!!
Wish you would go more in-depth with your knowledge of amplifiers …
Whenever I'm deciding on buying a sub you're the go to for straight forward honest opinion, where I'm from I'm getting the L7 8 solo baric at a good price, thanks man 👍🏼👍🏼
Another informative video!!! Man it's awesome watching these videos and learning a bit more everyday!!! Thank you sir ✌
I have a L7S 12” and I love it
I love the video. Would love even more if you could touch on how L7 dont need as much mounting dephth as a traditional full size subwoofer
That's why I follow you bro, I always learn 💯 👌
Thank you 🤜👏
I love these subs. Keep up the gr8 content MBE!
For shallow subs I would suggest a very good xmax, heat management, very high sensitivity as well as power handling to get the same output as a larger more efficient driver
Shallow subs don't take much power, don't have large xmaxx and aren't efficient 😄🤦♂️
Hey if you're still looking don't sleep on the kicker cvts. Very very good sound, and if you run multiples can take power
i just got an L7T in a kicker sealed enclosure, haven't fired it up yet, thanks for explaining the differences in words i understand!!
It's a worry I have with the ID8 V.4. $ Is there for the IDQ but I've heard the power handling is about the same but enclosure size is different. So on tighter space, I'll try the ID at 300 watts each. Possibly 350.... 🤷♂️
love your videos and finally someone that appreciates 8” subs. I’d love to buy 8” L7Q however, can’t seem to find any. I have a question, what would sound better under 1200watt amp. Two L7T or 1 L7X? Or would 1 L7S be good enough to fill in enough base for inside a boat cabin?
Salute!!
I'm sql all day in a budget level lol, two kicker Comp C10s and a 12in kicker round Solobaric classic( ribbed cone style like comps) all rear firing, on power acoustic 2500.
I didn't find a video with a solo baric L7S or the solo baric L7R
Thank you Kicker King
The jl shallow mount tw3 actually performs better then their regular mounted w3 according to JL
i have jl tw3 in different setups....they are incredible!
I had a single 12 TW3 and it was amazing and it was in my cousins tahoe before and we both loved it!
Good job bro you broke a lot of this down that I did not know and I’ve always wondered. I’m trying to put some killer ass knoxs in my El Camino.
Hmm 🤔 6 L7 12’s in Tahoe or 2 L7 12’s and 2 L7 15’s?
I really love kickers but how much better is the Q Vs. The solo? What’s the db difference in the same size box.
I’m thinking of getting the solo but if the Q is way better I’ll get 2 of those instead.
Thank you for this video! I recently purchased a Single 8" L7T 2-Ohm Truck Enclosure for my 2020 Nissan Frontier Crew cab. I have it under the rear seat on the passenger side. The enclosure is a sealed enclosure and I am powering it with a JL Audio RD 900/5. Your enclosures seem to far surpass stock enclosures. Do you think I would benefit by having you build one for my truck for the one 8?
You definitely would
I've been waiting for this video
Mr. M.B is it possible to put 2 8" Q class behind the seat of a 85 K10 single cab truck?
I just learned something new today👍
Knowledge Knowledge And I'm Going To Say It Again Knowledge!!!!!💯💯💯 👍🏾👍🏾💯💯
I have a 2 door 2004 Jeep Wrangler. With the rear seat in the car what kind of box would you build for something like this? Because often jeeps have the top off a ported box does not seem to be the route to go. My first thought is a sealed enclosure. And where do you have the sub firing? Down or forward? I wouldn’t think there would be enough room for a horn box, which I would think WOULD be ideal for “throwing” the bass
Is kicker bringing out a new L7 ? The kicker l7 is out of stock everywhere
Thinking about get 3 12's and using the vented compact spec. Tune to around 30hz
Are you going to try the new kicker solo X? I know they didn’t make an 8 inch but I bet the 10’s would thump in your truck? What have you heard about them? Do you think they’re going to be really high quality?
I run 2 shallow 10s kicker they are wired down to 2 ohms they sound great
I’m trying to put two kicker solo L7 15s in my bed of my 2020 ram 1500 classic I have a short bed
What you think of 2 l7 in a custom stealth box for the Durango '21 ?
Need my groceries space , so the sub need to be in that bottom compartment
I have 2 L7 12's, kicker 1800.1 amp. I'm trying to figure out if there is a box dimension or type of box that is best for these subs? Any help?
I've got 4 L7s on 2 Rockville db15s 1 set in ported custom and the other box is prefab ported get louds af
Can U fit 2 10" L7T's in a 2013 Toyota Tacoma crew cab??
Is it better to have these pointed upward or facing the rear of the trunk
I’m working on a can am x3 off-road side by side and wanting a sub for under the seat. There’s not much room for a sizable box and a few company’s offer sub packages that’s almost 900 for box and sub. Most say the jl 10 inch shallow mount is the best sub made for small areas. Any tips
awesome video. what would happen if you loaded the 3 in one box. give each 350 then go up from there. how that sound for a video? or I wanted your opinion, which do they sound better in ported or sealed?
Do a review on the l7R
Hey big dog I want to know how much do you charge to build enclosed is for the L sevens
Hey I have two L7’s 12’s I own a 2014 TL what size box should I fit into that trunk also sealed or enclosure
want to build me a box for my (4) 12" L7T front facing for my truck under the seat, should i go 2 amps or 1 amp? besides all that, i want to see if you could build me a box for these thin kicker subs, doesnt require a bunch of air space and still rms at 600, hoping they can beat down the block still haha
I currently have the solo boric 12 enclosure , is it worth the upgrade to the q class l7?? I will using the same enclosure
Kicker is really pissing me off. They told me today. The Q class is getting discontinued because they just came out with the soloX
I have 2 L7 12s shallow in truck boxes, will the full size L7 fit? or can I add spacers to make them fit?
Man thank you for this video
Which one would you choose for a 04 gmc sierra ext cab
Can you link the video on the l7t testing?
Oh hell Yeah! Thanks for this one big dog🤞🏾 Them L7T 12s hit hard as a mf tho. Hopefully I can fit 2 or 3 Under the seat of my 2014 Toyota tundra double cab. You will definitely be hearing from me in the next couple of days. Baltimore about to be full of MBE shit😂
Big Dog, what city and State u in?
I’m sure happy you gave me the examples of all of them. For some reason I knew that solo baric is a SPL for some reason cause the bass just sloppy as hell. But I knew that Q class have better SQ than the Solo baric. They all great subs IMO..
This brother I knew name Reese, he had 1 I mean 1 15 kicker L7 solo Baric in a Chevy trailblazer . That joker was smashing with pressure...
That L7T gets hot quick. But they will jam.
I have a single cab Chevrolet pick up and I’m really thinking about putting a system in it i’m wanting 2 l7t subs I’ve never heard shallow mount subs in person and I don’t know anybody that has either I was wondering do they hit good
I have a combo for sale 1 12"L7s and a 1200.1 mono block kicker amp for $350
Question brotha: I got the 12” L7S from Best Buy for 386 with a box, but the L7Q was 415$ from Rockville Audio or Ebay. I was willing to pay the difference, but then Kicker said it could be counterfeit if not from Walmart, Best Buy, or a certified Kicker dealer. Did I make the right choice? Do you think the q class from Rockville Audio would be fake? And coming from Skar SDR 12 will I be happy with the L7 solobaric?
I had an L7 in 2007. Not sure exactly which model, but I loved it! Hopefully it’s at least that good and I should be happy.
Yeah i been hearing alot of them counterfeits, do not buy unless a legit dealer or trusted website
It's coming back to me - finally was able to dig up the 'ol pre 2008 S8L7 manuals and man, that response using a 19.5 inch port opening😂😂 "flat as a pancake" response 40 to 80 hz (even 10 and 12 in versions limped along - little Q even at Fs ) Kicker "finally" upped the Freq range from 100-500 (although above 300 you might need your head examined as voice sounds dumb coming out of any sub). It appears Xmax has also creeped up from 10 to 15 mm or so (not sure Kicker starting 2014 or so tough to find on manual. And your link where an Amazon site posted "online" TS and how the sensitivity derived "solved using Z term where the term not listed" which should cause outrage but it don't as even Kicker knew they had the perfect 8" driver, I can vouch as along as you got a good "box spring" with vent, no need to add extra bass unless you want to see windows break or hair to fly on a ladies head while sitting in passenger seat.
For now I am ok with the Q class not being available, as my enclosure has sufficient flame arrestor control and I look forward to following the mfr instructions on "continuously bouncing the driver at Xmax for 4hrs set at 47hz" as to ensure efficient break in for replacemt😂❤
So would you stay with 8”wdx g2s. Or get the soloberic L7 8”
Kicker
Do they even sell the Q class anymore ?
Discontinued
I bought the 10in l7T in a sealed box and I'm not impressed at all. What's the biggest box and tuning it'll handle. It's going in my c6 corvette so there's decent room
Just built a box tuned to 33hz and it's back in business how I like it. About 1.8cubes
I ordered the 12 inch model for mine. Gonna throw it in soon… let’s see how it goes! I currently have the comp C so I’m sure it will be an upgrade
My 2018 Titan has limited space for a full size L7. Would a L7T 8’s work well in a box on the rear passenger floor?
It would definitely work. I have a 16 XD Platinum Reserve and I'm running four 8s
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix ok cool
if i wanna run 4 L7 Solo baric what amp would you recommend
Been watching you for a min what do you think of this set up and how loud it might be.
Skar rp2000.1 @ 2ohm
2 Kicker L7 Solo 10s 2 ohm @2ohm
4 cubic feet ported box @32hz
Going for around 700-800 each
No one can predict SPL levels..but it a good setup
Great video
Will 2 Q class handle Rockford Fosgate 1000 watts amp.
Yes
GREAT VIDEO! Great explanation, examples and analogies! Got my sub for sure!
What’s your recommendation for a sub the needs the smallest enclosure? Preferably less than 0.5 cubic feet. Probably sealed enclosure since I’m looking for quality, accurate, punchy bass in a small space. I’m using a Kenwood Exceleron 5 channel amp sending 500w at 2 ohms and 300w at 4 ohms.
Thanks man! Finally found somebody who knows what there talking about not trying to just sell me on there own shit.
Keep it up bro!
So they sound the same watt for watt right.
The QCLASS sound better overall.. but don’t sleep on the other 2
I have 2 L7s 12s in a 6cu ft custom box tuned to 31hz, it seems to drop off at the frequencies I want to feel, will I get better lows with the L7 12 q classes?
Maybe not tuned right
@@M.B.Enclosures like it would need to be tuned lower? I used the kicker apps tune calculator and enetered in all the box and port dimensions to figure out the tuning freq and how many actual cubes it was
6cu box. Box box for two 12's. I would have use 4cu and tuned it to 30
I have one L7S 12” and I love it
Droppin that science.
I'm take the l7s
I actually need an enclosure built for my El Camino and I wanted to knock bro
💯
RESILIENT SOUNDS GOLD 8 IS $210 @1000 WATTS WHY WAST MONEY FOR THIS NO OFFENSE BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC PEOPLE DO OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHEN YOU SHOW THE PEOPLE BETTER PRODUCTS THEY THINK IT'S NOT WORTH THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY ARE USE TO BUYING MORE EXPENSIVE THINGS WITH LESS QUALITY
Yeah they hit hard af! But you need 6.4" of mounting depth And 12" to 15" of port area. If you're pressed for space like I am that's a stretch. In my case all of my space is under the seat with only about 6" to 8" in hight and 50" long. 2 12" L7Ts Would be ideal for my application rather than trying to squeeze and not sound good. Those RSG 8s hit hard but the 8Q sounds more impactful.
@@FreeBlackConservative6859 I understand lack of space I'm just giving people the option to notice that it's better subs out there, I know I use to be the same way all I did is buy regular store brands like JL AUDIO and Kicker only if someone told me to look @FI Audio I would have told them they lost their mind know I have 4 Delta 15 and 4 RS platinum 18 in 2 different trucks moving 40k rms in one in the other I'm moving 16k until I break the RS platinum in, even if you choose Skar Audio you're save more money than that
@@Grownman773 Good lord!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah you hittin hittin! Man... I ain't even got started yet on this new project. I'm still researching the best options. Lord knows if I can fit it I'm putting it in cuz. I want the most Bang for the space.
Everyone knows turds come in all shapes and sizes....duhh🤣
Answered literally everything I needed to know by coming here. Except for mids or highs. I know they are designed mainly for lows. But was wondering which of them gives higher quality mids and highs. By highs meaning higher bass not actual highs
Idk how kicker,rockford and the other older brands are still in the market with these shitty subs for such a high price lol
How do they compare with all running 350 watts?