The REAL REASON Roads are Terrible in LAOS
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- The REAL REASON Roads are Terrible in LAOS
After living in Laos now for more than 4 years, I share with you why I think the roads are so bad.. and the reason is obvious.
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Something that I may not have conveyed clearly in this video is that I'm not having a go at the Lao Government, not at all. I'm quite happy with how things are here, and the last thing I want to see is all those different types of revenue raising systems introduced here that are screwing the everyday punter back home. My dig is at those people who choose Laos to live because of the very cheap cost of living but endlessly complain because they don't have first world infrastructure. I was just pointing out why and how developed countries can have good roads compared to Laos. Do you really think your developed country would have such great roads without all the taxes, levies and revenue raising that goes on...?
Roads are bad also in UK, just saying😊😊
It's like that in every country in the world to a degree. Harriet and I lived in Boston, Ma. U.S,. until we moved to Virginia , , they built a road project that started at hundreds of millions and ended at around 4 billion . The project was called " The Big Dig in Boston" Imagine the cost of repairing your vehicle . All the best Guys 👍👍 Jim and Harriet
Nice trip. You'd be checking the air filter( snorkel filter)r reasonably regular,out on theses dirt roads.. Kenno
I went on a small motorbike from Vientiane to Savannakhet and back, awful roads, roadworks will improve till the next monsoon.
Always an adventure in Laos 😆👍
The roads suck, but the views are awesome. Thanks for filming. 👍🏻
I blame the people in power. They’re probably pocketing all the funds that could go into improving roads/ infrastructure.
You're missing the point.. all the revenue streams I mentioned that most first world countries have, they do not have here. Take all those revenue systems away from any developed country and see how good the roads are then 😉
ya think?
Ok, I jus hear wat you are saying bro, so the country needs a lot of development, and investment, but I guess that country gets its independence, long time ago, so where is the money bro ??.Watching from Jamaica west Indies !!
Damn don't wish the Australian revenue raising tactics onto Lao!
I'm not mate.. I'm not! Lol Just want to put across why we have great roads back home compared to Laos. I can put up with bad roads to escape driving in fear of a fine all the time 👌😆
@@NowinLao lol be careful you don't want to give them idea's or you'll find a 40 zone out there in the middle of no where on a dirt road with 10 speed camera's lol🤣
@@keithmuckchucker6468 lol.. then they'd really have the Lao people offside.
Even if Laos get a big chunk of money donated by other developed country to help fix all those roads, the Lao government will just keep every penny in his own pocket instead of repairing the roads. It is how corrupted they are. If anyone was caught committing a crime in Laos, all you have to do is pay them big $$ under the table and they will let you go. This is why they are falling behind.
DRC Congo,CAR, sierra leone, Liberia some parts of ivory coast have such roads
I wish they used most of the $40 almost every tourist pays when entering Lao for road improvement and then they would get more tourists visiting this beautiful country.
But I don't decide and maybe they use that money for more important things.
40 million dollars for every 1 million tourists should repair a few roads!
Most of that money gets used to pay government salaries.
Those money goes directly to the pocket of the Lao government, it's more than likely. LOL
Do you have proof of that? I would be careful of what you say on here about the Lao government. @@blasblasblas2094
I was just there and the road has deteriorated so much since the last time I've been there in late 2022. There's talk of a highway connecting Xieng Khouang and Luang Prabang to Vientiane. I hope thats put into production soon. Driving in Laos is a nightmare is you suffer from motion sickness.
Todd you’re very right about road in Laos!! 👍👍
I spent 10 days riding those roads and it made for a great off-road but on road adventure ;-) , spent as much time on the wrong side of the road trying to avoid potholes the size of cows, great fun but slow going. Was lucky enough not to have any negative police / fine experience although once back at the bike hire shop the toll the roads took on the bikes wasn't small ;-)
Yeah, it always takes much longer than google estimates it does, and the reason I bought a Troop carrier for the road trips 😉
Todd you can easily remove those windows tint stickers 3 M or whatever brand you put on your windshield with nail polish remover or paint thinner. It doesn't annoy you? Cheers mate.
It annoyed the hell outta me! Then somebody clued us in. Thanks for the tip.. all good now 😉👍
i january i took the mini van from Vang Vieng to Luanag Prabang, , i got still pain in lower back ..
Ouch!
The average Loas punter , will never afford the the grossly extortionate tax’s we pay in the so called Lucky Country , it’s horses for courses
Blessed love to all, Great video as usual bro, ahahahaha we have the same problem down here in Jamaica west Indies, poor government, thieving government, rascal government, All the government members do is pack their bank book, Watching from Jamaica west Indies !!.
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Yup and just going to up the speeding fines in Australia by $45 buckaroos…not bad when 1 speed camera can pick up millions a year and there’s plenty of cameras around hey..
What a joke! Has nothing to do with safety 😏
That’s why they hide them in bins ..or on back of trailers in bushes.
$$$$$$$$$ good little money spinner..all goes the policeman’s ball
Laos government put all the money into their pockets that's why all the roads were bad shape.
Alot of the roads are in disrepair, mainly because it was poorly built in the first place then you have 10-12 wheelers going through the local roads. Banging it up as they go along.
I was shocked on how good the road was in Pakse going to Paksong. Lots of tolls but was glad to pay it because on the maintenance of the roads there.
Yes, very nice road. Roads are built with pavement that is very thin which will break down fairly quickly. Many, many roads and bridges have been built fairly recently. The government knows that they have a choice between lots of less expensive roads and fewer, longer lasting roads. An unpaved road that used to take us a couple of hours during the rainy season takes 30 minutes when the road is in good condition and 45 minutes when it gets pretty bad. Overall, when you look at all of the roads, there has been great improvement.
Hey buddy love your channel. You nailed it corruption. Too bad nice country but not much to offer expats..poor infrastructure no real services and prohibited service for most guys retire there..they need revenue best way is get guys to retire and spend money..but if a guy makes a mistake there and it's just awfull ..I hope they get smart ..get money comming in help with poverty and everything else that country needs..I like your trips giving to the poor ,and the guy that donated to the school ,brilliant..nice people there just gotta get people ,not just backpackers guys with money help that country..love you guys great family
I feel you.
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Be careful what you wish for mate . More government , means more taxes, which means , you know already.
I’d much rather drive on dirt roads than have, more government, with more control.
I lived in SE Asia for 8 years .
More government = less freedom.
Thanks for everything you guys do !
A wonderful thing for your efforts. LOVELY.
I was amazed at how good the road was that you took recently that Google Maps did not recognize as a road. It seems to me, as a long-time resident, that the government has wisely picked quantity over quality. I see villagers who were cut off during the rainy season who are now able to sell new types of crops because there are bridges for produce buyers to use. Most of your negative commenters about the government will not have seen that.
Hey Todd , Hope the right people hear you . Take care Nev
Well.. I kinda hope they don't. Who wants to be paying all those extra fines and levies again 😆 I do complain about the roads now and again, but I understand why they're like that. It's the foreigners who move here because of the cheaper lifestyle and whinge constantly about it. If you want good roads.. you have to pay! Say hi to Zona for me champ 😉
If I am not mistaking. In my wifes hometown of Phonhong, there is a strong Japanese influence with investors. They have helped substantially, with the local elementary schools and have poured millions of dollars into road improvements. If you have ever been through Phonhong, you will notice that the main roads are pretty nice. The side roads are good too, because the locals all pitch in to build their local roads. So, the idea of foreigners not investing in improving the road infrastructure is not accurate. Obviously, the rural areas will take much more time to make improvements. But, that is what makes Laos so attractive, is the rustic nature of most of the country. @@NowinLao
All the beautiful temples in laos and government houses are built by France except general vang pao house is built by the United States
My dad grew up in Laos. Every time we talk about Laos, he brings up how bad the roads and public infrastructures are there--due to leadership corruption.
There's corruption in all countries, it's just out in the open here. What we don't have are the many other forms of revenue raising they have in developed countries.
Just for the record, here in Washington State, one of the most heavily taxed states in America. We are taxed on roads through a gas tax, property tax and income tax. And we still have some really shitty roads with potholes and broken freeways and bridges. High taxes to fix roads doesnt always work. I will take Laos system any day over our system. With the train, the new freeways and scooters and tuk tuks, getting around in Laos is a no brainer. I forgot to mention the great Mekong River with boat travel., I will take Laos as it is. No complaints here. Modern infrastructure is overrated, in my opinion.
Hey Todd you love it there. Implement all of that stuff just because of a few bad roads and watch how the cost of living goes up. I am paying $200 AUD a week to stay in my unpowered tent in a caravan park. Don't winge about the roads. They are just as bad in Australia.
Oh I'm happy with how it is here. Maybe it didn't come across in the video, but I was giving reasons WHY Laos does not have great infrastructure... Because it comes at a cost! The Lao people know this, and that's why they never complain 😉😆
@@NowinLao I know that. I love your videos. Thanks mate.
@@Whalerider.traveller cheers mate 🍻
Hey buddy,,I was thinking that the government probably cant even afford to buy the needed maintenance equipment,,so you hit the nail on the head about the need to raise revenue. Growing pains,,but damn,,I've driven lots of mining or logging roads with loads of heavy truck traffic in way better shape than that so called highway. Take care Todd. Ttyl,,,Marlon
I have just posted a comment and wish to clarify that I love this country and the people also the governing elite I would much prefer to live under the laws and rules of Laos than the country for which i was born This is why i am here . I would like to further add that i consider myself a PAYING GUEST in Laos as I have contributed many many hundreds of thousands of dollars to my establishing my life here and very much appreciate the Lao government for my being allowed to reside here
Well said Craig. Thanks for your input my friend 🙏
South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Algeria, Tunisia have very good roads.second tier is my country Kenya.
I'll take the run-down roads of Laos over the traffic nightmares of most cities now. Just a thought; the companies that sell gas in Asia and Laos should help rebuild the roads as they want people driving their cars and they are rich enough to help with improvements. I'll keep riding my bicycle.
My sister is in America newyork roads also good.
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Seems very short-sighted of the government. If the trucks are ripping up the roads, they should pay a levy to have them fixed. Trucks could go twice as fast on decent roads and they'd make twice as much money, so they should be happy to. The whole thing just looks like a total lack of government doing its job. (You could easily argue the our government does way too much, but doing nothing isn't great either.)
Todd having visited Lao for 24 years annually and now in my second year of retirement here i have seen many changes. You mention roads and maintenance funding It goes far deeper than obvious corruption Embedded in the Lao pschye and mindset is the following saying and i shall spell it out and translate to English Lao Die Nuong Gee Et meaning I shall go to my grave an impoverished and poor man Proud in the fact that I have never had to Toil or Sweat throughout the course of my life Combined with the fact that whilst Their culture and religion takes total precedent over hard work education and learning this country will never develop into a developed nation.This Todd is why the Chinese are taking over at an ever increasing rate
Thank you for the translation. I can see much truth in what it means with how many people of Laos live their lives. Such a shame China is taking advantage of that 😔
When renting they don't look at past history or where you work as long as they get your id fingerprints picture that's all agreement and payment as agreed
Maybe they could tax the punters from the 'north' that are using the casinos that have been built and are being built. Like the ones I saw on Laos side of the Mekong near the Golden Triangle last year. But dream on! Also there seems to be plenty of concrete and steel available when comes to building the numerous ostentatious palace size homes in parts of Vientiane.
Money doesn't talk it swears ( in many languages).
Best idea I've heard yet! 👍
Todd as always informative
Sadly most governments these days are corrupt
Remember taxation was supposed to be a temporary measure in ww2
Make those Chinese companies pay their taxes instead of the govt. officials pocketing the money. The secondary roads were even in 1997-2003 when I made my VISA runs from Thailand
*Roads were even better from 1997-2003
The no.13 road from luang prabang to Kasi is the most terrible road that I have driven 😂
The road likes been boomed 😅
Thanks Todd. You are right when you say that there just isn't the money or the infrastructure. Plus the fact that Laos is being milked dry by the Chines who just don't care about the people of Laos, only the fruit and veg that they can supply to China! Laos is a beautiful country, but still a poor one and one has to accept that if you want to live there. Personally I would rather have the lack of infrastructure and a great way of life than be taxed through the nose. God bless you and the gang 😀❤🙏
Agree 👍
2 main reasons I left Laos after 2 yrs......1. as a foreigner you can not even own (in your name) a motorbike/car etc......Roads are beyond bad....they are dangerous!...people are great.....only thing that kept me there 2 years....In VTE you can plainly see where all the money goes to fix the roads.....and you know what I mean Todd
Yep, fair call. What gets my goat though are the ones who come here for the cheap cost of living but expect 1st world infrastructure. It's cheap for a reason. Cheers mate
The roads are stuffed because of the china railway .cement trucks from kunming to bang Kok for three years during covid lockdown
Have to agree there.. was traveling up in that area during construction.. absolutely destroyed the roads!
Corruption or excuses up and down the line.
Africa was having problems in 90s very bad roads poor electricity supply
This might be the price of freedom and not being controlled by government and hopefully it will last long there is complete government control freedom is partly gone wrong and takes away part of your freedom, small price to pay having a bad road surface.
Roads are worse in Australia, politicians waste money on shit 😂.
Corruption is from the ground up in Laos, it's all they know and it's out of control . The money does not make it to the government coffers
..and they don't have all the other revenue streams that developed countries do. Corruption is just not hidden like it is EVERYWHERE else
Most of them probably don’t have car insurance and road tax
This too 👌
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Laos is 80%of the mountains , the Laos government Do not have the money, No ocean No business going through to the laos, just be happy 😂 enjoy the slowly lifestyle my friend
100% Thank you
Simple fix mate. Fine everyone a dollar that doesn’t have a functional tail light on their motorcycle and use that money. They’d raise squillions 😂😂
Just put more tax on fuel to pay for new roads , the big truck uses more fuel so they will pay more Tax as for EV they need mileage tax and toll roads
All fuel tax was removed nearly a year ago whe the kip fell through the floor
Country side/highlands don't have a large population so paving the roads is ignored. They could pave the main roads in the highlands but it will be hard to maintain due to lack of funding. Monsoon will wipe away the roads in 1-2 seasons. It can be done but I think the first items of business should be to teach the people to drive, enforce speed limit, and ticket and fine people. For the love of God, don't pile 20 people into a mini-van. Traffic signs in Laos are non-existent. Thanks to USA for GPS and Google Map. The country is doom. China is being burned daily, the country relies too much from China.
Mina's pulling faces, neenee not interested 😂.
Just another day.. 😏😆
African countries have moved on electricity and roads it used to be worse than Laos.
Buying medicine over the counter is easy no prescription.no locked phones.you don't pay a fixed phone charge at the end of month for service but buy and use when you need.landlord tenancy agreement easy.driving school very easy.you buy a house on mortgage or cash and no one checks on credit history credit worth etc cash is king.
How are you going to raise taxes from a population of poor people? The average annual income in Laos is around $2,150 USD Besides that, do you really want to impose a tax system like in America or Australia? That is one main reason we are moving out of Washington State. Excess taxation. Just a suggestion, but for the amount of money you spend on fuel, couldnt you fly to some of your northern destinations?
You missed what I was getting at Charles. Even though I do whinge about the roads sometimes, my target is those who move here for the much cheaper lifestyle but complain endlessly about the road conditions. Those same people who want to live in a 3rd world country on the cheap but expect 1st class infrastructure. It's cheap here for a reason, and it's not corruption. Corruption is rampant world wide, but the common link to developed countries having good infrastructure is how they tax and fine their citizens. I can tolerate the bad roads rather than being screwed over by the revenue systems back home.
Fly? That'd make for good content 😐
Chill out Champ. Just keep doing what you are doing and dont stress over things you cant control. Low to no taxes for the locals is a good thing. You know how roads get fixed. Neighbors pitch in and fund it themself. Out in the country, you wont find that. Just some advice, I would ease up on the criticism of the government. You are dealing with the Lao government. You arent in Australia any more.
I know where i'm at mate, it wasn't the government I was having a go at 😉
It sure seemed like it. You can say what you want. I dont care. I am just letting you know from my experience in Laos, that the government doesnt tolerate any bad mouthing of any of their policy or the way they do things. . Unless I am missing something, at 2:54, 3:19 and 3:33, you were mentioning things you probably should not. Just my opinion. You can say what you want, but I would be careful. @@NowinLao
Taxes are very high in some African countries than the West.The Chinese are not loved in Africa but they build good roads railways always on time
🤣🤣🤣 Chinese built Roads and Bridges are very pretty. Problem is, as soon as they get used they seem to keep breaking up or falling down. They simply don't last... (Translate as no skill just speed). Great on the cosmetic appearance but nothing substantial underneath.
Or as we say where I come from... All Fur Coat and No Knickers.
All Fur Coat and No Knickers 😆👍
Yes Todd , corruption at every level is ragi in Lao administration. Laos as a whole has many, many "good fathers" governmental as private who give money for equipments and infrastructures...but the problem is that a lot is "vanishing" nobody knows where. The "bo bpen niang " mentality as every level is an other reason for this situation.
By the way you should protect your face and skull skin by employing "Australian cream" else you get some skin cancer. All the best tonyou and NiNi.
Oh I'm not denying that, but the revenue raising streams I mentioned are not here in Laos. massive amounts of money is raised in first world countries through high taxes, high car registration costs, all manner of traffic cameras that all contribute to the good roads we have in more developed countries.
Yeah, need to cover up more, thanks 😉
Tax
Yeah we got more taxes than flies here in Oz but it dont go on the roads but we sure have a lot of happy criminals Uhm I mean politicians of course
Not many poor pollies is there 😆
Bring Back Ned Kelly Me says@@NowinLao
Third world countries have put very high levies on fuel to build roads.African countries have moved on roads and electricity
Fuel is still cheaper here in Laos than Australia
No fuel levies in Lao sinse the colapse of the kip
Australia has good roads
Yout asking the people of Loas to pay up with something they dont have, money... Thats why the government cant tax the people...Laos doesnt get the revenue from the internatonal investers that Australia gets...Theres no mining or cattle ranching, industrial developement in Laos.. Laos is a 3rd world country.. The Laos people pay everyday, in their blood sweat and tears, just to keep food on the table and warm clothes on their kids...Similar as to Thailand. People of 3rd world countries dont get charged for taxes or fines, because the governments know they dont have the money to pay.. It is what it is...
I think you misunderstood who was was having a go at Rob. Even though I do whinge about the roads sometimes, my target is those who move here for the much cheaper lifestyle but complain endlessly about the conditions over here. Those who want to live in a 3rd world country on the cheap but expect 1st class infrastructure. It's cheap here for a reason, and it's not corruption. Corruption is rampant world wide, but the common link to developed countries having good infrastructure is how they tax and fine their citizens. I can tolerate the bad roads rather than being screwed over by the revenue systems back home. Plus, you hint at a good point. many overlook that not too long ago Laos was bombed back to the stone age! Champion, Cheers mate
Similar to Thailand? Not even close pal. Just returned ti Thailand after 2 weeks in Laos. Night and day difference.
Depends where your travelling. Did you check put rhe back streets of Prasat?or just beach Rd in Pattaya?@@donovanpatrick9256
American bombers dropped over two million tons of cluster bombs over Laos. The U.S. spent $17 million a day to drop the bombs, but contributed just $61 million between 1993 to 2012 to remove them. Over 270 million cluster bombs were dropped on Laos during the American Secret War in Laos; up to 80 million did not detonate. Over 5 decades on, roughly 10% of these munitions have been destroyed. More than half of all confirmed cluster munitions casualties in the world have occurred in Laos. The Black piece of shit O’Bama, gave Laos 80Million for the clean up in 2014, without an apology. And today America sends over 150Billion to support Ukraine, one of the worlds most corrupt countries. Moral of the Story, How blessed are you to have a wonderful lifestyle and beautiful family to share all of the beauty that is Laos today. Your blessed my friend. Enjoy!@@NowinLao
They need the ROAD out of Chinas Belt and Road they're using them for heaps of other so called projects. Bushyboy Oz
Some things in third world countries are better than west some things are better in the west.third world countries don't have overregulation.
Any revenue raised will be going on interest and repayments to China.
That's not a bad thing though 😉
@@NowinLaoAs long as its not for unfinished projects. Belt and Roads seems to be grinding to a halt.
Capitalism vs socialism or communism as at play.
Call it whatever you want, if those revenue raising systems aren't in place, you're not going to have the funds for pretty roads.
@@NowinLao Laos also has small tax base population
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Well ol mate after driving 3700 kms of Laos finest roads I do believe I am allowed to put the Pooksters two bobs worth in. Those bloody chinese semi trailers and the companys they drive for should be paying their keep of the roads they are destroying. Honestly mate g the roads in the mountain communities of Pho Kham and Muang Hiam is soul destroying. Do not even start me on road 13 mate. Honestly your subscribers are in the dark on the goings on around Long Tieng down to Muang Hom and the 1000s of semi trailers from china just ruining the road. Poor ol Ho Chi Minh did not have this in store I tell you. Down south we came across awesome parts of road only to watch it go to shit in a heartbeat. The road that really surprised us was the road from Paksan to Vietiane . The last 20 kms is a bloody mess of pot holes and the locals are hosing down the the road God love them. But reality is the Chinese will continue to rob the joint as we know. Sad but reality mate. Already have booked my car for our next trip and looking forward to our next adventure as in Laos there is no holiday only adventures. Cheers Pookey.
Hahaha Love ya Pook! Never pulling any punches 👌
@@NowinLao Sorry mate it is not in my nature . Just wired like this.
@@pookeyhutchison7838 never apologise for being you mate!
@@NowinLao Just calling things as I see it mate. Also Carolyn has a controlling interest as well you know.
As a Pakxan resident I can tell you that stretch is nealy fixed. A close relative drove out from VT a few days ago and it was only 2.5 hours.
If you remember, President Obama gave 90 million dollars to Laos to rebuild that country. That’s a lot of MONEY. Wonder where it all that went.
90 million to help clean up the mess you left, which is still being carried out. 90 million doesn't rebuild a country lol
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Not me, brother. I was born in Laos in 1972 - after the Vietnam war. Hopefully, Laos will be a better country than it is today. It’s my birth country. Lots of love. ❤️
Happy birthday champ, hope you have a great day! 🍻
@@NowinLao
Yes sir! You too. Lots of love ❤️ for our home country.
Keep it like that. Who wants to live like the police state west
I'm with ya!
They are waiting for China 🇨🇳 to do it !
Yes. Aside from corruption, the hard truth is the government doesn't have enough budget to build or maintain the existing road. Lao government is the largest employer in the country, hundreds of thousands people working for government and most of government budget goes to pay their salary. And a little for fixing the road. And lots of new build roads in Laos came from foreign aids and loan.
Most accurate and true comment here. The Lao Government has improved greatly in the last four decades. Private land ownership is one of the greatest improvements for the Lao people. Some advice for foreigners. Just visit Laos and enjoy the food and people. Dont stress over things you cant control. Go with the flow.
Be careful what you wish for mate. The leadership of Laos monitor social media very closely. They dont take kindly to criticism. I would just bite the tongue. It is out of your control, so I would just let it go. Why do you want to impose Western standards on Laos? In one video you are mad at new roads in Vang Vieng and now you are mad here because of the complete opposite.
Read between the lines Chuck, I'm perfectly happy with how it is here 👌
I watched this video twice. Doesnt seem that way. I am just trying to understand why you were so pissed off at the new road in Vang Vieng, but in the same breath , complain about the bad roads? I guess the Aussie language doesnt translate to the American language.@@NowinLao
Blessed love to all, Great video as usual bro, ahahahaha we have the same problem down here in Jamaica west Indies, poor government, thieving government, rascal government, All the government members do is pack their bank book, Watching from Jamaica west Indies !!.