I view this with mixed feelings. Its apparent mike and rays health were failing.. but never the less they were doing what they loved..i prefer to remember him at younger times when he and ray were robust and healthy..Sometimes the candle that burns twice as bright, lasts half as long.. John thanks for keeping Mikes memory alive..
@@weeeeelad In general I would agree.. however the major causes of Mike and Rays health issues were mostly genetic and unhealthly lifestyles after bodybuilding
Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist. This is all scientifically sound, and made Mike the champion that he was. The bitterness from the corruption of the industry didn’t help him with amphetamine abuse and genetic disease though. Do as Mike said, do not do as Mike did.
I'll say this: I have had great success, growth, with Mike's ideas - I greatly reduced my sets volume and increased my rest days. Within weeks I was gaining - amazing. Almost 51, two years in of gym, started introducing Mike's ideas into my program about a month ago. Fantastic! I am the same weight I was in November after a dirty bulk, cut 19 pounds in the winter (got shredded) and am back up 16 pounds from a clean bulk, leaner than last time at the same weight.
I worked out yesterday. I pushed hard. My hand was hurting a bit so I feel like I could pushed a bit more. I rested today. I am fighting the urge to go tomorrow. I want to go push so bad, but I will give it one more day. It's so hard to wait.
John, I love that you got the audio mixed out on these videos! Nice work to get that clear. You and Markus have a huge opportunity to reshape the future strength training and body building. HIT is more than a routine as you know. It's the only way to stimulate growth and maintenance of our strength. I hope to meet you someday and share what Markus and I are doing with Zoom training. The tech and intensity is something I don't think many have seen yet. - Chris Chavanu
Hi. Is it true that this was the first time Mike had introduced the 4 second positive (4-2-4 cadence) and previously was teaching his students a 2 second positive and only the negative portion being 4 seconds?
In another video he said do one light warm up set, another moderate weight warm up set and finish with a more heavy weight warm up set. Then you do your working set to failure per exercise with a maximum of 4 exercises per muscle group.
You don't do SuperSet for warmups because the purpose of a SuperSet is to exhaust a specific muscle group before a given exercise to force another set of (typically weaker) muscles to failure
He said it himself at the end. Doing OHP or front raises would overworked the front delt since we're also doing incline presses and dips, plus I think there's is a little front delt activation in the lateral raise anyway
60-90 seconds between sets and 1-3 min changing workouts is what I usually hear. It all depends on you and your conditioning at that point. You may need longer rest periods for your breathing to slow down
Have you noticed how all the fitness youtubers are now slowing their Reps down (Renaissance Periodization, Joni Shreve, Athlete X etc)? Because the research has finally caught up with Mike's knowledge: slow negatives (4-5 seconds) are the most important part for growth. And slowing the positive to 2-4 seconds shows both a) far less injuries and b) more growth. So yes, do it this slow. The positive can be faster as they aren't important for growth, but inch those Negatives for growth (so I go 2-3 seconds Up, 4-5 down).
I view this with mixed feelings. Its apparent mike and rays health were failing.. but never the less they were doing what they loved..i prefer to remember him at younger times when he and ray were robust and healthy..Sometimes the candle that burns twice as bright, lasts half as long.. John thanks for keeping Mikes memory alive..
If he hadn't lectured and shared his knowledge at a later age I wouldn't have known him unfortunately.
I'm forever grateful to young and old Mentzer
he had cardiovascular disease, and ray had kidney trouble, both claimed their lives
This is why you don’t abuse steroids. It’s not worth it to your long term health
@@weeeeelad
In general I would agree.. however the major causes of Mike and Rays health issues were mostly genetic and unhealthly lifestyles after bodybuilding
Sometimes you have to separate the art from the artist. This is all scientifically sound, and made Mike the champion that he was.
The bitterness from the corruption of the industry didn’t help him with amphetamine abuse and genetic disease though.
Do as Mike said, do not do as Mike did.
I'll say this: I have had great success, growth, with Mike's ideas - I greatly reduced my sets volume and increased my rest days. Within weeks I was gaining - amazing. Almost 51, two years in of gym, started introducing Mike's ideas into my program about a month ago. Fantastic! I am the same weight I was in November after a dirty bulk, cut 19 pounds in the winter (got shredded) and am back up 16 pounds from a clean bulk, leaner than last time at the same weight.
“It ain’t great but it ain’t bad”
Love it!!!
I worked out yesterday. I pushed hard. My hand was hurting a bit so I feel like I could pushed a bit more. I rested today. I am fighting the urge to go tomorrow. I want to go push so bad, but I will give it one more day. It's so hard to wait.
Mike is the best ever
Thank you John Little.
I needn’t say much more.
You’re very welcome. I’m glad you are enjoying the content.
John, I love that you got the audio mixed out on these videos! Nice work to get that clear. You and Markus have a huge opportunity to reshape the future strength training and body building. HIT is more than a routine as you know. It's the only way to stimulate growth and maintenance of our strength. I hope to meet you someday and share what Markus and I are doing with Zoom training. The tech and intensity is something I don't think many have seen yet. - Chris Chavanu
Excellent exercise
"Whip yourself into a motivational lather" 😂
Hi. Is it true that this was the first time Mike had introduced the 4 second positive (4-2-4 cadence) and previously was teaching his students a 2 second positive and only the negative portion being 4 seconds?
This is a great question which needs answering!
About 1998 .
Dumb machine at the Y gym won't let me pull my elbows back far for shoulder raise. Should I reverse directions? Idknow
Use cables or dumbbells
guys im new to this so essentially. do 1-2 warm up sets and 1 High intensity set for like 6-10 reps? and that's it?!
Yea
In another video he said do one light warm up set, another moderate weight warm up set and finish with a more heavy weight warm up set. Then you do your working set to failure per exercise with a maximum of 4 exercises per muscle group.
Forget this shit, do normal workouts. Unless you are mega advanced and are on juice you can't get any gains from warmups+ 2 working sets.
@@zrpggamer not true. i am a natty and it works great
@@zrpggamerquite the contrary. This works better for the ‘non juicer’
How much longer did Mike live after this video? He doesn’t look all that well to be honest in his movements.
He died 12 hours after filming this.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGE The video of Mike and Ray bullshiiting outside during this video shoot was priceless. They were there for each other at the end.
@@HEAVYDUTYCOLLEGEreally? that's fucking heartbreaking😢
Didn't live to see 9/11 A morbid curiosity makes me wonder what he'd have thought of it and the 20 years after.
That’s crazy. I could tell he didn’t look or sound all that well. He seemed “off”.
And I‘m done with just one set ?
What about warmups for supersets? Warmups are superset too ? Etc pec deck and incline bench supersets
Warm up on the second exercise before starting the super set
You don't do SuperSet for warmups because the purpose of a SuperSet is to exhaust a specific muscle group before a given exercise to force another set of (typically weaker) muscles to failure
so john, what about front shoulder????
He said it himself at the end. Doing OHP or front raises would overworked the front delt since we're also doing incline presses and dips, plus I think there's is a little front delt activation in the lateral raise anyway
@@damndaniel333And that's facts. That's why I got stretch marks on mines. Definitely overworked
Can someone tell me, how many minutes or seconds should I take a rest between exercises?
60-90 seconds between sets and 1-3 min changing workouts is what I usually hear. It all depends on you and your conditioning at that point. You may need longer rest periods for your breathing to slow down
if super setting, move to the next exercise as quickly as possible. If not, just rest until your breathing becomes somewhat regular.
I can only tell you what works for me and that’s to rest just long enough for normal breathing and heart rate to return
as much as you need
appreciate your responses guys. One more question though, for how long can I continue this routine? 2 months? 6 months? forever?
Thanks a lot to remove shitbull music.
Is this the typical cadence he wanted for reps? This slow all the time?
It was what he recommended during the last four years of his life.
Have you noticed how all the fitness youtubers are now slowing their Reps down (Renaissance Periodization, Joni Shreve, Athlete X etc)?
Because the research has finally caught up with Mike's knowledge: slow negatives (4-5 seconds) are the most important part for growth.
And slowing the positive to 2-4 seconds shows both a) far less injuries and b) more growth.
So yes, do it this slow. The positive can be faster as they aren't important for growth, but inch those Negatives for growth (so I go 2-3 seconds Up, 4-5 down).
Excellent exercise