TUBE amps VS DIGITAL VS TRANSISTOR amps for HOME PRACTICE? | StrumentiMusicali.net

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 95

  • @TheGuitalian
    @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What do you guys think? Can this setup be somehow refreshing or it's just surpassed?

    • @MaxPower-js1sk
      @MaxPower-js1sk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like your name. I clicked on your channel because of your name, and I hoped that you were really Italian. I like it much!

  • @rupe82
    @rupe82 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The little Marshall valve amp sounds amazing, in every video I've seen of it I'm impressed. To me it sounded much better than the other two.

  • @riphopfer5816
    @riphopfer5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Re: the Blackstar
    If you’re like me, and typically play through a load of pedals to get acid rock or post-punk-type tones, you’ll probably play on the clean channel ANYWAY, and get your drive tones from your pedals. It should also be noted that again, for my fellow tone-sculptors out there, this is the least-costly amp on the market that HAS an FX loop, for your time-based effects (delays, reverbs, and LFO-modulators like flangers, choruses, et al).

  • @xldsyt
    @xldsyt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks for your insight!
    To my ear, the Blackstar had a really nice clean tone. I just ordered one for noodling and to help keep the hours down on my Princeton.
    I’ll add that your jazzy chording and clean blues are really nice…maybe you should keep that up!!!

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks man, deeply appreciated. Good choice with your blackstar :)

    • @xldsyt
      @xldsyt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I’ve had the amp a month now and couldn’t be happier. It’s actually so good that I’m taking it and leaving the Princeton at home for a gig this week.
      Amazing clean tones!

  • @willybilly51
    @willybilly51 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I've had the blackstar debut 50r for a year and can only say...for me it's the best solid state amp since the 70's...and I've had many solid state amps...Fender...Peavy...Vox...Marshall...and many more.

    • @shayh.3556
      @shayh.3556 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Roland's Blues Cube series is great, Peavey Bandit 112 Red Stripe, Boss Katana MKII 100, Orange Crush, Fender Mustang gtx50

  • @MrActionRadar
    @MrActionRadar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am curious how woukd the blackstar sound with a distortion pedal or an overdrive on the clean channel?

    • @marketeevee
      @marketeevee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, this should be considered in a demo video like this. I definitely would be using my pedals with an amp like that.

    • @patrickrobinson2520
      @patrickrobinson2520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with both you and I also wonder about the 5 watt setting. I don't think he used both power settings or even mentioned which one he was using. It's worth noting.

    • @robbaskerville253
      @robbaskerville253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The reviews I've read say it's ideal for this. I'll be buying one soon.

    • @MrActionRadar
      @MrActionRadar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robbaskerville253 yes me too. Also, had a black star HT50 Mkii head with matching 2x12 cabinet and the cleans sounded terrible and it had 2xEL34 ok it and a 1AX7 preamp tube.

    • @UncleDansVintageVinyl
      @UncleDansVintageVinyl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have the Debut 50R, but I actually prefer the drive channel over the clean channel. But I use that channel rather differently from the way a lot of people use it. I turn the volume up pretty high (at least two o'clock), but I keep the gain way, way down--just enough that, when I dig in, I get just a tiny bit of "hair" on the sound. Then I use an overdrive pedal that can give me some extra warmth. That sounds better than turning up the gain. I also think that it sounds better than the clean channel, when used that way.

  • @TheTwangKings
    @TheTwangKings 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I stopped chasing tone with amps, and started using pedals. That's where the tone comes from. Pretty much any amp will do 😊😊😊

    • @sherwinrocks5653
      @sherwinrocks5653 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly

    • @shayh.3556
      @shayh.3556 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Idk man, my Roland Blues Cube 30 Hot sounds miles better than my Fender lt25 (both solid state and running effects through front of amp).

    • @TheTwangKings
      @TheTwangKings 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @shayh.3556 I hear you. We all perceive things differently...

    • @shayh.3556
      @shayh.3556 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheTwangKings Of course pedals matter to a degree but the amp, speaker(s), and guitar pickups matter just as much. I'd even say the amp and speaker matter the most.

    • @TheTwangKings
      @TheTwangKings 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @shayh.3556 it's all relative... in some situations, you are absolutely right. Depends on where you are playing, genre, etc. For a bedroom player like myself, a good selection of pedals, especially compression, OD, reverb and EQ, will make even a Peavey Rage 158 with an Epiphone or Squier sound like heaven 😆

  • @mauriziobiagini2825
    @mauriziobiagini2825 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    happy to find you in the English version in my opinion this channel over time will be able to give greater satisfaction, for today video from an aesthetic point of view blackstar and marshall win hands down but the katana is certainly more versatile for domestic use ciao! 🎸

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We'll see Maurizio! Thanks a lot for being here too :)

  • @ArturBrzozowski444
    @ArturBrzozowski444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ... And therefore I learned I should get an amp...
    Although points are really valid in context
    Thank you!

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you!

  • @stockholm1752
    @stockholm1752 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was surprised by the Boss Katana (still not interested, but it wasn’t half bad). The other two, I know nothing about - but I wasn’t inspired by them here.
    I’m sticking with my Vox Pathfinder 15R: most tube-like transistor amp ever?

    • @patrickrobinson2520
      @patrickrobinson2520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had one of those in a 30 watt and never found myself liking it. Too loud for homeplay But it was 10 years ago. I've got the blackstar fly3 combo amp and it's really a great 2 cab 6w setup. It's in the Green edition for 99$ on Amazon. It's the best home amp I've ever had. I'm glad the 15w works well for you. That's awesome.

    • @nica2411
      @nica2411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you like the blackstar fly check out the vox adio. Much more tonal possibilities. I got frustrated with the fly's lack of actual reverb or other effects and sold it. ​@@patrickrobinson2520

  • @kungfuseadog
    @kungfuseadog 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Best selling combo of the last years" is right :).

  • @riphopfer5816
    @riphopfer5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That Marshall’s drive channel sounded ridiculously good for 8” speakers. I am prejudiced against anything smaller than 10”; in fact, I start getting suspicious when there’s smaller than a 12” speaker, so this REALLY surprised me.

  • @orsmagyari245
    @orsmagyari245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm using Audiotechnika headphones with my ME70. It does the job and doesn't bug the neighbors.

  • @grahamsmith2381
    @grahamsmith2381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For home practice I’m leaning to the Blackstar icore 4 series with twin stereo speakers, come 10,20 &40 watts.

  • @robertholsman
    @robertholsman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Really great video - thank you. Totally agree with your points as well. I use modelling and plugins for almost everything I do, recording and playing live these days, but I've just bought the debut 50 and I love it. It's the most time I have spent playing for pleasure because it's so immediate and inspiring I think because I'm playing rather than endlessly tweaking. And it's become a great reference point to what a guitar amp sounds like, rather than a sound thats processed to sound like a recorded sound, if that makes sense? There's nowhere to hide when you strip away all the delays, dynamics processing etc - so for it to sound good, you have to play well or it'll slap you in the face with all your bad notes! I also find it less fatiguing and more immediate. Everyone should have a combo - it's like a digital reset switch!

    • @farmrakmaak
      @farmrakmaak 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! I have Amplitube Max and I like it for recording but for practicing nothing beats a nice combo. I have the Debut 50r. Killer amp, love the od channel! Did I mention the fx loop? The isf knob? The great reverb? The emulated line output?

  • @margateswede
    @margateswede 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just got the debut 50r. It sounds great. I plugged the MXR 5150 overdrive into the clean channel and it sounds incredible. The pedal cost as much as the amp but together they cost under 500$ but sound at least twice the price. The fx loop is a great addition at this price point. Never really gelled with Blackstars but the debut is killer . The Mosfet ID sounds great. The 5150 pedal just sounds a bit better. Also mosfet I believe

  • @crsantin
    @crsantin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you are just playing at home in your bedroom or basement then it doesn't matter. A tube amp with a good master volume works just fine but then so does something like a Helix. I have both and I play with both. I can't say one is better than the other. I mostly use the Helix now but I still enjoy the feeling of a tube amp. A tube amp at high volumes is still a wonderful experience but I can't do that very often so the Helix tends to give me that high-volume big stage sound than my tube amps at lower volume.

  • @DerpRulesAll
    @DerpRulesAll หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Boss Katana is the best choice for both overall sound, and versatility. You're not stuck with the amp's basic tones when you can load any number of cabinet and speaker combinations, as well as effects. And if you really want to use pedals, that's there for you, too.

  • @riphopfer5816
    @riphopfer5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think you made a good point about playing more melodically at low volumes. Since switching, 4 years ago, from a plugin-based setup to a clean amp and a big analogue pedal board, I’ve been inspired to play fingerstyle blues-rock (like Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits) for the first time in 30 years of guitar playing. Along with this, I, too have been learning to incorporate more arpeggiated triads and arpeggiated chords in positions beyond the first-which has in turn made me a more versatile musician.

  • @miquelmarti6537
    @miquelmarti6537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the iconic 5150 15w valve combo is great for playing low at home. If you need it even lower I'd recommend the Joyo DC-15S. Both amps have great cleans and overdriven tones.

  • @onionheadguy7094
    @onionheadguy7094 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for making this I'm gonna go with the blackstar!

  • @markmcdonald5711
    @markmcdonald5711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have that Marshall in my bedroom, it is my favorite practice amp.

  • @williammolina9792
    @williammolina9792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Marshall is a beast for it's size. Would be nice with an 12 inc speaker.

  • @astewart9410
    @astewart9410 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just play at home, and have Boss Katana 50 MkI and 50 MkIi connected ABY via Radial Big Shot for wet/dry glory at home volumes and at cheap prices. It’s all I need for what I do and the Boss amps are reliable and great.

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins5552 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Way I see it a practice amp needs one key thing, to have a forgiving clean channel that can handle any pedals/fx you mught add. The dirty/gain channel then is just a bonus if it happens to be to your personal taste.
    Of this selection marshall is good
    but I have a taste for Vox
    although I use an ampeg rockbass 30w bass amp as a dual purpose guitar/bass amp.

  • @Negative.mrb1
    @Negative.mrb1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Katana amp super versatile and if you use pedals drive into the front of amp modulation pedals in the effects loop it sounds great too

  • @accentontheoff
    @accentontheoff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello and thanks. Just wondering, will I be able to use the Blackstar in small pubs and venues with my Boss multifx.

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think so

    • @accentontheoff
      @accentontheoff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheGuitalian Ok thanks.

  • @Pecata_Gaming92
    @Pecata_Gaming92 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey dude, thanks for your video.
    I am wondering should I get the Boss Katana 50 Mark II or the new one gen 3 for home usage or something else entirely around that budget range? mainly for metal/metalcore Drop C/D tunes.

  • @willredelsheimer5919
    @willredelsheimer5919 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video brother. New to the channel. Love the playing. In my opinion, the Blackstar sounded the clearest and fullest. It has a boutique amp sound for a fraction of the cost and it's also a giggable amp. Easy fix for the drive would be adding an affordable OD/boost type pedal. The Katana is a more well-rounded amp with its multiple style and effect selections. It's also giggable. But it did sound a little more dull and boxy to my ears. However, it is more versatile. Sorry folks, this is usually where I catch some drama. Marshalls and I have never agreed. 😂 I'm just not a fan. Sorta like the Silver Jubilee line but the Marshall tone has never been my go to. Ironic as so many of my idols used them. There's just something ice pick like in them. Especially in their clean channels. Dialing helps but I've never been satisfied with the result. I've owned amps of all kinds over the last 35+ years in music. Been a big fan of Blackstar in the last few years. Really been impressed by the Debut 50's. Thanks for the review. I appreciate you man. 🙏🤘

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! Welcome to the channel!

  • @AnkurWow
    @AnkurWow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Returned my Blackstar Debut 50... Sounded great at home, but tried it twice with bands and it was horrible (very thin and weak sounding). My tube amp (Fender Pro Junior) worked much better. Pedals were used with both.

    • @AnkurWow
      @AnkurWow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BryanClark-gk6ieBoth. It was loud enough, but just not cutting through and it sounded very thin. Blues band, and we were playing outside.

    • @skukeness6201
      @skukeness6201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you think a higher wattage model would have been better? Or do you think there's a limit with the mosfet style being able to get thru when pushed?

    • @AnkurWow
      @AnkurWow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skukeness6201 Good question. I doubt a higher wattage one would have helped, since the Debut 50 had plenty of volume. Maybe a better speaker would make a difference (more clarity, punch, and less muddy/thin)?

    • @skukeness6201
      @skukeness6201 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AnkurWow I suppose they had to cut corners somewhere

  • @mazukakai
    @mazukakai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use a Blackstar Series One AE. Its a 10 watt (KT88 powered) 112 combo for home practice. Real decent, but it prefers singlecoils at higher gain. Always play as loud as possible🤘🏻

  • @patrickrobinson2520
    @patrickrobinson2520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm wondering about the debut 50. If I'm correct the model in the United States has a switch to cut the 50 watt output to a 5 watt. Making it drive at lower volumes. In this video were you using the 50 watt setting or the 5 watt?

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can't remember, probably both settings, but it wasn't really tonally different to my taste

    • @Edgar_Randolph
      @Edgar_Randolph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      All Debut 50's can be reduced in power from 50 to 5 watts. & then of course there's a VOLUME control. So talking about upsetting the neighbours because it's too loud is just silly.

  • @AtlanticPetrochemicals
    @AtlanticPetrochemicals 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vielen Dank!

  • @john_enx
    @john_enx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not 100% sure but from my limited experience 12" is to big for room playing and 8" too small with no low end, open back doesn't help at all, I believe that 10" is the more appropriate size, I haven't tried any 6,5" or 2x12 stacks. Two points, 1st practice/room players don't search for the same sound as band guitar players and 2nd for new players it might be better to buy a multi effect pedal, modelling amp or a pc with an audio interface, the downside having too many options is bad sometimes since you waste time discovering the "amps" and not playing guitarl

  • @tueseptlikha7274
    @tueseptlikha7274 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about for live purpose.. like in worship. Will black star and katana perform good

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they would, it depends on the size of the venue, but you mic' em up it should be more than fine

  • @achimsabah5841
    @achimsabah5841 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wich Plugin would you recommend, for a practice type of studio?

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are pretty much all great choices. Maybe consider the ones that have metronome and tuner too

  • @jules633
    @jules633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What amp did you use in the short CRUNCH SOUND ? thanx Jules

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marshall JCM2000 DSL 50

    • @jules633
      @jules633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheGuitalian Mille Grazie grazie per la risposta. Hai modificato in qualche modo questo amplificatore (sostituzione valvole) per farlo suonare cosi? Ho DSL40 e suona come una schifezza. Can't get the crunch to punch. E molti altri problemi come fizzing , suono flabby e così via. Potresti condividere qualche informazione? molto apprezzato. PS Suoni in una band in Italia oppure sei un insegnante di chitarra?

  • @1alb
    @1alb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review - I really like the time and playing you gave with the clean tones. The Blackstar looks the coolest, best clean tones. The Marshall is good. The Katana the most versatile, but not inspiring and looks terrible!

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man, appreciated

  • @rupe82
    @rupe82 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Positive Grid Spark and looking for a new amp to play in my apartment. The Spark is so bassy and muddy sounding. Katana would have been the obvious choice but I don't think it sounds great either, the distortion sounds artificial and unrealistic, you know? I prefer the Blackstar here. Do you have any other recommendations?

    • @TheFreeman4955
      @TheFreeman4955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just curious do you have the Spark 40? I have one and I noticed if I tilted it back (bottom off table) it actually made a big difference.

    • @rupe82
      @rupe82 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFreeman4955 Yes the 40. I've found elevating the Spark really helps tame the bass on it. I've moved it off my table and put it on top of my bass amp and it sounds much better.

    • @TheFreeman4955
      @TheFreeman4955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rupe82 I also have a boss GE 7 EQ pedal that really helps.

    • @rupe82
      @rupe82 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheFreeman4955 Yes that's a good option and bringing it to ear level will help tremendously.

    • @OM-et4qj
      @OM-et4qj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a guy who modded his spark to remove unwanted bass 😂 the video is on youtube

  • @Coolbeans1492
    @Coolbeans1492 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lesson of the day… peavey bandit Is still king

    • @cavanray5327
      @cavanray5327 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Peavey cracked the code decades ago and everyone else is making do. The marshall being tube should win, but the 8" speaker holds it back. Honestly it sounds like a blanket is on top.

  • @JrPfreedom
    @JrPfreedom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have add some salt for this video. I have previously few amp Peavey vypyr, Peavey bandit 112 red stripe, Katana 100 mk1, boss nextone Stage, currently vox vt20x, Blackstar studio 10 EL34. Everyone is inspired.
    General small speaker is rubbish and min is 10 for home but 12 more offten win.
    Most of you youtube people heard valve amp not the best for home also half stack not for home too. All this is bulshit. You gave to try yourself all stuff because everyone is diffrent and all this things is very subjective.
    I dream about valve amp and half stack and use old multi-effects Vox tonelab le for pushing valve in low bedroom volume. On this video you can hear articulation on guitar so if you Can hear strings is not loud. And recording by phone and don't sound tiny. Katana isn't bad choice if you start without pedal board don't need notfing else. Blackstar debut sound very nice clean and have fx loop so will be good pedal platform depending which way you want to go. Another qestion what you want to do? Just play not recording and just clean? Vox vt20x will be great for this even is unacceptable speaker size 8"
    OK below half stack Marshall on bedroom volume.
    th-cam.com/video/mKjbWQPMe-M/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @riphopfer5816
    @riphopfer5816 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ‘Bestselling combo amp of recent years,’ I would say. Or, alternatively, ‘Bestselling combo amp of the last few years.’
    Either way, your English is good. I understand you very well, and I found this video entertaining and informative.

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Really appreciate all your comments. Cheers!

  • @pakujewpiwnicy6701
    @pakujewpiwnicy6701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    blackstar debut 50r it has too much bass

    • @Edgar_Randolph
      @Edgar_Randolph 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Turn the bass knob down & the treble knob up on the EQ then genius.

    • @kernelspy
      @kernelspy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You don't know how to setup an amplifier?

  • @skye7690
    @skye7690 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    vs. analog amps.

  • @michaelhawkins6149
    @michaelhawkins6149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Having an effects loop is so important.

  • @MrGibble64
    @MrGibble64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the katana is the most bang for your buck small combo ever . . hundreds of boss effects on hand and cheap as chips . . cmon . . not even a contest here . . i have a 50 and it is the most versatile combo ever . . tell me im wrong .

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a great choice indeed

    • @paulwilliams8537
      @paulwilliams8537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The Katana is not a digital modeling amp, it’s a class A/B analog transistor amplifier with some digital effects. The 5 amp sounds are all analog, the power amp is class A/B analog. Don’t feel bad, most people think the katana is a modeling amp.

    • @TheGuitalian
      @TheGuitalian  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I made a bit of research and I couldn't find a proper answer, seems like it has a FET preamp buffer feeding a DSP, of course the power amp is analog, but if you have more official informations feel free to answer in this thread. Thanks!