♥♥ Right around 1:24:05 into the video, Efren's cue ball DID contact the 12 ball. The 12 ball rolled EVER SO SLIGHTLY, but, to the "naked eye", it's possible that the opponent didn't see it. Yes, Efren being the gentle man that he is just decided it's not worth arguing about.
Jeremy, thanks for the expert commentary. You talked a lot but stuck to the game and really know your stuff. No muting required. Mike owes Efren an apology for accusing him of cheating. What a jerk.
I think you're right. I thought he hit it with his cue on the follow through the first time I saw it, but going back he clearly thins the 12 and causes the miss on the ball up table. Efren must be one hell of a cool cat to not get fired up by Mike prancing around berating him and calling him a cheat.
The first time I watched it I didn't think he hit it, but after reading this and re watching it, he 100% did. He is world class, didn't even argue, just spotted it up. I think he knew he could beat tat guy any time he wanted.
typical trash players. disregarding all context just to please their skepticism. if he hit the 12 with his cue, why would the cue ball miss the 2? it's really an oxymoron of a scenario that's impossible for the average pool player make. yet a bad player will believe it so. because they don't want to think
@@mescellaneous Why would the cue ball miss the 2? Well, he was jacked up over a ball and he's old as hell now. Easy to swerve and miss. Didn't see why 12 moved in real time on a small screen. Then he didn't argue the foul even one bit. That was the context behind my initial thought. Thanks for asking.
I think for tournaments like this you should only be able to say “pause” to your opponent and talk to a ref or tournament director. Mike is being very unprofessional. He said efren tried to cheat him on a ball before 1:24:00. I’m pretty sure efren didn’t foul, and 100% the 12 ball moved. I hope mike gets in touch with Efren and apologizes after seeing this.
i rooted for the good ol' boy after that three railer, just to lose all respect after he called efren a cheat and bullied him to spot one. if you don't have perfect eyesight and a perfect view of the hit you don't make that call. you're sitting in a chair far away, efren's right over the ball. poor class
He is a class act, no doubt about it, his long history of classy behavior proves that. But he also knows that in one pocket a single ball hardly makes a difference, especially early in a game. One ball might be important near the end game, or when setting up a run out, or a complex safety. But Efren could give almost anyone in the tourney 8-7 without missing a beat.
yep, Efren did not foul, a 1000%, Mike needs to learn how to deal with his issues, for as old as he is you would think Mike would carry himself a little better.
I still remember the first time I ever saw Efren in person. We were at a pool room in North Carolina and some guy who I assume was Efren's backer came in and was talking to some people trying to get a 9-ball game. Once he found the person Efren came in, grabbed a house cue off the wall without even looking at it, and ran like 10 racks on the guy. It was then I realized that the cue itself really didn't matter all that much.
He also made another foul in game 3 just before pocketing the 8-ball he moved the stripe by the corner with his body. And that hit with the cue on the two is most definitely a foul, and it wasn't that soft either. I'm sure he noticed but kept quiet. And then five minutes later he accused Efren of cheating and made him respot a ball when he made a legal shot. Yeah, he's old but so is Efren, the difference is Efren has class, and this guy is being a massive scumbag on top of being a cheater.
Absolutely a foul - he also brushed a ball with his belly at the end of game 3 - he was also an absolute JACKASS to Bata there too. What an absolute fool and disgrace that Mike was here. Good grief!!!!
at 1:25 Efren definitely hit the 12 ball. I was admiring Medley for his tenacity - playing to win while he appears to have one foot in the grave. Obviously a very unhealthy old man. I lost all respect for him when he started bad mouthing Efren over that shot. Efren was a gentleman about it - handled it professionally even though Medley was not only wrong but he was being a complete asshole about it.
whenever Mike gets out of his seat I feel his pain. looks like a miserable old man. I thought he was about to keel over at any moment during this match. But I can see he is a very talented one pocket specialist.
The guy looks like he is about to croak. He’s def. dealing with some severe body pain it looks like. Plus, he looks miserable in general to begin with.
To RailbirdsTV: What's going on? I logged onto TH-cam at about 12:30 AM, Thursday, April 9, 2020, to watch this one pocket match. There's no video - only audio of the commentary, and the RailbirdsTV Derby City Classic static screen. Talk about non-entertaining.
386/5000 Not only this "Mr." Mike accusing of cheating to Efren in Game 4 on the subject of touching the 12-ball .... He also fouled at the end of Game 3 by touching with his body on the striped ball in the right pocket when shooting on the last 8 ball ... and nobody saw it ?? ... Efren was behind him ... but they should have a referee with such despicable players as "Mr." Mike... so sad at his age... My respecto to Efren... a real Mister !!
Here I am watching this match again… Mike got mad that they made him put on his shoes/lol ….. talk trashed to Efren… then Efren begin his operation on him !!!
Clearly the 12 moved. Then he says that Efren tried to cheat him before, which now sounds like Mike probably didn’t pay attention then either. Disgusting behavior from someone who owns a business in this industry while competing in the very same industry. Pretty low class act from Mike. I hope he has apologized and owned up to this. As well, Mike should commend Efren for handling the situation better than he did.
What an absolute dope Mike is… he committed multiple unaddressed fouls during this game and then acted like that to Efren. What a joke. And on top of all that actually happened, why on earth would he think Efren Freaking Reyes would try to cheat him on a streaming camera table? Absolute slob
mike let his anger get the best of him and it showed on the 2 ball---he hit it just awful..........jeremy jones is a good commentator for one pocket---he can play the game........
He never hit the 12 ball watched the shot multiple times he miscues and moved the ball with his stick in my opinion. BTW I was standing just to the right hand side of the table during this match and saw it live and heard the miccue. Efren laughed at the effort himself because he knew he hit it bad.
gary collins watch it again, because that was 100% a legal hit. No foul with his cue. Mike is a pos. I have no respect for him after watching that behavior. I'm glad Mike lost.
Agreed....Efren hit the 12ball legally, no doubt about it. The thing moved almost an inch. He was laughing because he thought he could see the ball up table. Efren has never cheated anyone, he has no reason to. Mr. Medley is prob very uncomfortable and irritated due to that, and let it get to him. He's trying to win...he knows he's a huge underdog, and he knew how important that game was.
Good thing most dont agree and appreciate the knowledgeable insight of one of the best commentators out there. But we are all entitled to our own opinion.
Akash Deodhar since you need to tell the commentator how to do his job, let me ask you-do you know who he is? Do you know anything about the game and it’s history? Do you know how many years he has been playing? Do you know what team he captains?
@@larrywhipit5204 , I don't need you to tell me how to do anything Larry. I express my opinion in a public comment forum. I'm not looking for you to solve a problem.. Carry on..
Listening to Jones is like a free lesson from a top pro. Thanks
My thoughts exactly, extremely insightful
♥♥ Right around 1:24:05 into the video, Efren's cue ball DID contact the 12 ball.
The 12 ball rolled EVER SO SLIGHTLY, but, to the "naked eye", it's possible that the opponent didn't see it.
Yes, Efren being the gentle man that he is just decided it's not worth arguing about.
Jeremy, thanks for the expert commentary. You talked a lot but stuck to the game and really know your stuff. No muting required.
Mike owes Efren an apology for accusing him of cheating. What a jerk.
Jeremy is a pretty damned good player himself. Obv his commentary is going to be good.
Jeremy the best educational commentary. I have not heard someone mention the 5th ball in 30 years, that was nice. Thanks
I can't believe Mike talked to Efren like that especially when he was totally wrong.
Thanks Jeremy! I learned a lot listening to your commentary.
1:24:02 reyes moves the 12 legally. Sad to see Mike forcing his opponent like that. Nice of Reyes.
I think you're right. I thought he hit it with his cue on the follow through the first time I saw it, but going back he clearly thins the 12 and causes the miss on the ball up table. Efren must be one hell of a cool cat to not get fired up by Mike prancing around berating him and calling him a cheat.
The first time I watched it I didn't think he hit it, but after reading this and re watching it, he 100% did. He is world class, didn't even argue, just spotted it up. I think he knew he could beat tat guy any time he wanted.
typical trash players. disregarding all context just to please their skepticism.
if he hit the 12 with his cue, why would the cue ball miss the 2? it's really an oxymoron of a scenario that's impossible for the average pool player make. yet a bad player will believe it so. because they don't want to think
@@mescellaneous Why would the cue ball miss the 2? Well, he was jacked up over a ball and he's old as hell now. Easy to swerve and miss. Didn't see why 12 moved in real time on a small screen. Then he didn't argue the foul even one bit. That was the context behind my initial thought. Thanks for asking.
As I said I saw it live and he definitely missed the 12 ball
I think for tournaments like this you should only be able to say “pause” to your opponent and talk to a ref or tournament director. Mike is being very unprofessional. He said efren tried to cheat him on a ball before 1:24:00. I’m pretty sure efren didn’t foul, and 100% the 12 ball moved. I hope mike gets in touch with Efren and apologizes after seeing this.
I talked Mike yesterday and he still holds a grudge and said that Efren is not allowed in his pool hall.
@@gtzaskar6353 I'm sure the entire country of the Philippines has a running boycott on Mike's pool place.
efren clearly hit the ball, someone please send this to mike and have him apologize for those nasty comments smh...
JEREMY JONNEEES the real goat
i rooted for the good ol' boy after that three railer, just to lose all respect after he called efren a cheat and bullied him to spot one. if you don't have perfect eyesight and a perfect view of the hit you don't make that call. you're sitting in a chair far away, efren's right over the ball. poor class
Having Jeremy Jones do the commentary is proof that even Railbirds can get it right once in a blue moon.
One of the best matches I've ever watched! Down to the wire! Mike Medley is amazing.
Efren didn't cheat. The 12 ball moved but Efren didn't want to give mike a heart attack. I watched the ball move a few times.
I hope dopey Mikey's going to be embarrassed when he takes a deep breath and rewatches this to see the 12 ball move. Bata, you are still a class act.
He is a class act, no doubt about it, his long history of classy behavior proves that. But he also knows that in one pocket a single ball hardly makes a difference, especially early in a game. One ball might be important near the end game, or when setting up a run out, or a complex safety. But Efren could give almost anyone in the tourney 8-7 without missing a beat.
Thanks for airing!!
And not a single flash of our logo throughout the whole match! 😃
@@RailbirdsTV You are great, thanks!!!
yep, Efren did not foul, a 1000%, Mike needs to learn how to deal with his issues, for as old as he is you would think Mike would carry himself a little better.
Low class to accuse Efren of cheating. I hope he apologized.
I still remember the first time I ever saw Efren in person. We were at a pool room in North Carolina and some guy who I assume was Efren's backer came in and was talking to some people trying to get a 9-ball game. Once he found the person Efren came in, grabbed a house cue off the wall without even looking at it, and ran like 10 racks on the guy. It was then I realized that the cue itself really didn't matter all that much.
Not sure why Efren spotted a ball at 1:24:03, the twelve ball clearly moved... Kind of lost respect for Mr. Medley...
Dang Kevin! Scoring the most sought after one pocket commentator in the business and not even advertising it ahead of time (that I noticed).
We (briefly) advertised it on Facebook, but only after it was confirmed that we could get him. We've been working on it since the end of Derby!
JJ,Billy and Danny what a team!
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I'm surprised that a room owner of Mike's age doesn't know how to behave.
At 1:19:09 Mike's cue brushes the 2 ball. Is that not a foul by their rules?
He also made another foul in game 3 just before pocketing the 8-ball he moved the stripe by the corner with his body. And that hit with the cue on the two is most definitely a foul, and it wasn't that soft either. I'm sure he noticed but kept quiet. And then five minutes later he accused Efren of cheating and made him respot a ball when he made a legal shot. Yeah, he's old but so is Efren, the difference is Efren has class, and this guy is being a massive scumbag on top of being a cheater.
Absolutely a foul - he also brushed a ball with his belly at the end of game 3 - he was also an absolute JACKASS to Bata there too. What an absolute fool and disgrace that Mike was here. Good grief!!!!
This guy really showed his ass. 124:00. Efren totally hit that ball. I hope he apologized for calling the goat a cheater.
Since they knew they were being videoed, Efren or his people should have made MIke bet $10,000 on whether a good hit or not.
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Where has this older guy been hiding…he’s a very good player!
at 1:25 Efren definitely hit the 12 ball. I was admiring Medley for his tenacity - playing to win while he appears to have one foot in the grave. Obviously a very unhealthy old man. I lost all respect for him when he started bad mouthing Efren over that shot. Efren was a gentleman about it - handled it professionally even though Medley was not only wrong but he was being a complete asshole about it.
whenever Mike gets out of his seat I feel his pain. looks like a miserable old man. I thought he was about to keel over at any moment during this match. But I can see he is a very talented one pocket specialist.
The guy looks like he is about to croak. He’s def. dealing with some severe body pain it looks like. Plus, he looks miserable in general to begin with.
Anyone with eyes… Could clearly see the ball moved !!
cool video
To RailbirdsTV: What's going on? I logged onto TH-cam at about 12:30 AM, Thursday, April 9, 2020, to watch this one pocket match.
There's no video - only audio of the commentary, and the RailbirdsTV Derby City Classic static screen.
Talk about non-entertaining.
No idea what happened on your end. Works fine over here. Maybe try closing and opening your browser again? Sorry I can't be more helpful.
RailbirdsTV ● I tried your suggestion - twice. The first time, it didn't work.
I tried it a second time, and it's working now.
Thanks!
I play at Michaels all the time. Mike was WRONG Efren moved that 12 ball. He owes Efren an apology.
386/5000
Not only this "Mr." Mike accusing of cheating to Efren in Game 4 on the subject of touching the 12-ball .... He also fouled at the end of Game 3 by touching with his body on the striped ball in the right pocket when shooting on the last 8 ball ... and nobody saw it ?? ... Efren was behind him ... but they should have a referee with such despicable players as "Mr." Mike... so sad at his age... My respecto to Efren... a real Mister !!
Saw it.
What is this? A Seniors tour?
Here I am watching this match again… Mike got mad that they made him put on his shoes/lol ….. talk trashed to Efren… then Efren begin his operation on him !!!
I hate up table games this early.
Geez. I almost feel sorry for Mike. I think he needs to see a doctor. Painful watching him get around the table.
Clearly the 12 moved. Then he says that Efren tried to cheat him before, which now sounds like Mike probably didn’t pay attention then either. Disgusting behavior from someone who owns a business in this industry while competing in the very same industry. Pretty low class act from Mike. I hope he has apologized and owned up to this. As well, Mike should commend Efren for handling the situation better than he did.
What Mike did is a shark move to try to throw Efren off his game but obviously it didn't workout for him.
What an absolute dope Mike is… he committed multiple unaddressed fouls during this game and then acted like that to Efren. What a joke.
And on top of all that actually happened, why on earth would he think Efren Freaking Reyes would try to cheat him on a streaming camera table? Absolute slob
Wheezing???
No sky Woodward commentating very sad lol great video
mike let his anger get the best of him and it showed on the 2 ball---he hit it just awful..........jeremy jones is a good commentator for one pocket---he can play the game........
He never hit the 12 ball watched the shot multiple times he miscues and moved the ball with his stick in my opinion. BTW I was standing just to the right hand side of the table during this match and saw it live and heard the miccue. Efren laughed at the effort himself because he knew he hit it bad.
gary collins watch it again, because that was 100% a legal hit. No foul with his cue. Mike is a pos. I have no respect for him after watching that behavior. I'm glad Mike lost.
Agreed....Efren hit the 12ball legally, no doubt about it. The thing moved almost an inch. He was laughing because he thought he could see the ball up table. Efren has never cheated anyone, he has no reason to. Mr. Medley is prob very uncomfortable and irritated due to that, and let it get to him. He's trying to win...he knows he's a huge underdog, and he knew how important that game was.
JJ confirmed that RailbirdsTV already addressed this from a different camera angle. 100% good hit on the 12.
Nope. He didn't hit it with his stick. The cure ball hit it.
I zoomed the video and slowed it down on TH-cam. Even if it was a miscue it was definitely a good hit.
The commentator needs to stop explaining every single shot 😖🥴
Lol
Akash Deodhar,
💯% correct...
Good thing most dont agree and appreciate the knowledgeable insight of one of the best commentators out there. But we are all entitled to our own opinion.
@doilyfilm Trust me I would If I were the commentator.
Akash Deodhar since you need to tell the commentator how to do his job, let me ask you-do you know who he is? Do you know anything about the game and it’s history? Do you know how many years he has been playing? Do you know what team he captains?
Commentator just prattles on and on. I had to quit watching
Think about what you are saying? Some people (like myself) enjoy it. If you don't, mute it and put on some good music or what ever you want to hear.
@@larrywhipit5204 , I don't need you to tell me how to do anything Larry. I express my opinion in a public comment forum.
I'm not looking for you to solve a problem..
Carry on..
Sorry Sir
LOL. Richie. Have you ever heard of the mute button? Snowflake.
@@richardanonpatriot3047 Richie!! Richie! You having a bad day little guy?? LOL.