Efren Reyes vs Jesse Gilbert - One Pocket Race to 8

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  • Commentary by: Daniel Busch
    LIVE from California Billiards in Fremont, California for One Pocket an exciting One-Pocket Challenge Match between Efren 'Bata' Reyes and Jesse Gilbert!
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  • @nimajnebrm
    @nimajnebrm 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @freddyottawa
    @freddyottawa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I knew this was going to be a slaughter as soon as you mentioned this guy was playing Efren straight up. What was he thinkingÉ

  • @packjim56
    @packjim56 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good idea, finally switch to a different angle when Efren parks himself in front of the camera.

  • @donsmith3857
    @donsmith3857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    man that first game was brutal to watch--terrible op

  • @tyleralfrey8531
    @tyleralfrey8531 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This commentator is hilarious! "I still consider myself a donkey." -- Been playing this game for a long time. So do I sir, so do I.

    • @lindastevens3547
      @lindastevens3547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think most one pocket players can relate to the donkey thought, compared to Efren's caliber of play.

  • @poolplayer2
    @poolplayer2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    epic game! the greatest match I've ever seen!!!

  • @gabrielmartinez717
    @gabrielmartinez717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woah, just a beat down, right from start to finish.

  • @palemooncircus1995
    @palemooncircus1995 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was there! unfortunately I couldn't watch the match though as I was working ;_;

  • @edhartgrove7552
    @edhartgrove7552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for saying that, Daniel. You should NEVER concede. I've been playing pool for over 50 years, and, I've seen pretty much everything - including the best players on Earth missing the easiest shots. Everybody screws up "sometime".

  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He ended up spotting Efren; wow.

  • @jorose95
    @jorose95 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what video recorder is being used?

  • @edhartgrove7552
    @edhartgrove7552 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The commentator said that, wherever they go, they're always worried about the cost of food, gas, etc. He should know that, if he eats the right kind of foods, the "gas" will be a free byproduct. ;)

  • @vicluevano1222
    @vicluevano1222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn no spot for the underdog? That's straight up suicide to play Efren Reyes even

  • @chewiedog7356
    @chewiedog7356 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    After watching the first few games, it's clear Gilbert needs a few balls. Probably 8-6, or even 9-6.

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he needed at least 10-6 lol.

    • @djamo1969
      @djamo1969 ปีที่แล้ว

      Against Efren he does, and I’ve only watched 10 minutes. That’s not saying he can’t play, though. Efren is the best 1P player ever, hands down. No debate.

  • @williambeckwith9394
    @williambeckwith9394 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Efren Reyes greatest ever

  • @jaylee6951
    @jaylee6951 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was David and Goliath, except David forgot to bring his sling and stones.

  • @chewiedog7356
    @chewiedog7356 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'm stuck with Jesse for $600 bucks"....LOL...Funny...

  • @andrewmuir1997
    @andrewmuir1997 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where can I find that "all my money goes in one pocket" shirt that efren has on

    • @Stollberger72
      @Stollberger72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It should say "all money goes to Efren's pocket". ;)

  • @SdfuNoob
    @SdfuNoob 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    'what the heck am i gonna stream after this' LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

  • @djamo1969
    @djamo1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this is an old video, but maybe Jesse just wanted to see how he stacked up against the best? Nothing wrong with that. That’s how you get better!

    • @vicluevano1222
      @vicluevano1222 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He should have played efren getting 10-7 so he has a chance of scoring a few games

  • @spacecowboy98
    @spacecowboy98 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish you had kept the score board current and up to date as the change occurred. Also how many people know who when where how whys about one pocket pool? So Daniel besides the strategy that you advise Jesse to play which was "defense" what other kinds of strategies might be at play here. For those of us that don't know a damn thing about 'one pocket' it would have helped for you to point out that the right pocket was Jesse Gilberts and the left side Efren Reyes. You would have had me on the edge of my seat. Trying to figure this out just by watching? I'm exhausted.

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thanks for your feedback. We'd really like to accommodate some of the newcomers to One-Pocket so, I appreciate your comments. I actually wasn't suggesting throughout the match that Jesse play a lot defense. I was more or less saying that he shouldn't throw away his opportunities and play a little smarter. 99% of the time, the person breaking the rack is automatically electing the opposite corner as his/her pocket; unless otherwise specified. The best way to break in one pocket is from the side which, is on a diagonal plane to your pocket. There are some other fancy breaks, but the player will specify his/her pocket if applying the fancy break. Sorry bout the scoring bud. It is by far, my biggest flaw when doing these matches and I truly apologize.

    • @Blessed.2.Teach.4God
      @Blessed.2.Teach.4God 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@POVPOOL
      I appreciate your transparent honesty, and just to add to the subject; we (as pool players) are all pretty pissed off about pool essentially being demoted as a sport so on and so forth... Well in other sports do you see them make Such consistent careless errors when tracking scoring? ...not a chance.
      So if we want to be taken seriously then we have to act accordingly. This is not to say there is no appreciation for what you do, there absolutely is... but if I happen to walk away from a match for a few min I should be able to come back and know the score is right.
      Much Love, Be Blessed.

  • @parkergoodin4776
    @parkergoodin4776 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also this was a rough match for Daniel I agree with Thomas partially, but I normally enjoy his commentary

  • @DeeMoback
    @DeeMoback 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Daniel/Geraldine....don't know if you still monitor comments...BUT..... dam I miss y'all...... good times watching your stream.....best ever... I used to be Jay Thomas Reset....(old road agent known as the truckdriver, Batman, SneakySnake, Electric Man)......miss big John Hendy too absolutely.....GodBless

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awww, RIP John Henderson. I just spoke with his son today. It's nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the well-wishes. I manage a poolhall now. Keeps me busy but not really any streaming these days.

    • @DeeMoback
      @DeeMoback 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@POVPOOL welllll..... glad you got my message..... yup....wish you well.... be safe

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got the score backwards.

  • @doyleahart2310
    @doyleahart2310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan . less talk and keep score current

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Playing Efren even Good Lord Jesse.

  • @stlouie67
    @stlouie67 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    also caught the end of that first game and i was like damn, this is supposed to be a world beater and missing shots like that !! lol... still good to watch tho.

    • @MrTataLester
      @MrTataLester 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Efren just hustling

  • @fastfire71
    @fastfire71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the rule if there is more than 4 balls behind the line you spot them up one at a time

  • @snookerhand
    @snookerhand 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr. Busch, you commentate gentlemanly enough, but your score keeping is constantly off. At some point your mea culpas start to run the circumference of annoyance; at this point the apologies are academic.Good gentleman, can we improve on it?

  • @apelusavelino7455
    @apelusavelino7455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even the camera felt lazy to shoot.

  • @YouTubist666
    @YouTubist666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty fast paced play.

  • @owenmonast9582
    @owenmonast9582 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the second efren made that bank, I thought to myself...he's screwed

  • @3000lchavez
    @3000lchavez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I want to play Efren too with someone else's money

    • @chriscripplercruz1833
      @chriscripplercruz1833 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesse usually always play on his own money I'm pretty sure most of it was his even in this match

    • @user-uz4ol4vy5s
      @user-uz4ol4vy5s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't his money lol

    • @mlc2016
      @mlc2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-uz4ol4vy5s Of course it was his money. Who would back Jesse with no spot against Efren in a race to 8? Even if the backer got 100%, he would be giving away money. Don’t get me wrong, Jesse is a good shooter, but there’s no angle here.

  • @bluesinsideout
    @bluesinsideout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30:53

    • @cjr3559
      @cjr3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 11 into the side, right? My thoughts led right to dumping..

  • @stlouie67
    @stlouie67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    just curious as what part of cali is this at ? is this LA and if so what pool hall. i know im not a world beater but ive always loved the game of one pocket more than any other game and grew up playing and when i moved to cali 6 years ago , none of the pool rooms ive been to out here in southern Cali no one plays one pocket. plus it would be nice to just drop by amd sweat some action if theres any around. so my question is where in cali and what pool hall. Thanks for feed back in advance.

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know where you are going in Cali to miss one pocket action. Most of the rooms get into it around these parts. This particular room is in Northern California at California Billiards. The link to the room and the address are in the description of this video. That said, looking for One Pocket action? Here's a list of rooms that I'm sure will gladly take action from you between 20 and 40 a game: Hard Times Billiards (Sacramento), Family Billiards (San Francisco), Jointed Cue (Sacramento), The Jointed Cue (Sacramento), Crown Billiards (San Ramon), The Broken Rack (Emeryville), The Cueball (Bakersfield), Hard Times Billiards (Bellflower), California Billiards (Fremont), Edgie's Billiards (Milpitas), House Of Billiards in Santa Monica and Sherman Oaks, Family Billiards in Lakewood, The Cueball in Montclair. I hope this helps.

    • @stlouie67
      @stlouie67 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      POVPOOL ok that makes sense, im in southern cali

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who in the hell is keeping score. You never have it right.

  • @billygowhoop
    @billygowhoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the ending of that first game was so weird

    • @MrTataLester
      @MrTataLester 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Efren is hustling

  • @edhartgrove7552
    @edhartgrove7552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! At 50:08, Jesse shot over the 15-ball (using the bridge), but, his cue stick caught the 15-ball when he pulled his stick backwards. Not sure if Efren saw it. Maybe he saw it and it was to his advantage. Was that a foul, on Jesse?

    • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
      @jeffreyyoungblood7438 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not normally. The ball just gets placed back by the opponent

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Efren has 5 who's keeping the score?

  • @pingmendoza719
    @pingmendoza719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best pool players are humans, and they make mistakes too. There was an instance in the past when efren missed to pocket a ball - pretty straight one - with ball in hand. It happens. But at the end of the day, their skills play out in most of the games.
    I haven't seen one quite like Efren in one pocket. His stroke is one of a kind, executing shots with different amounts of english and speed of the cue ball. I can't imagine how executes a follow through shot by shooting the cue ball under.
    This matchup is like lion v dog.

  • @realamerican911
    @realamerican911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone can beat anybody in this game. It's all about taking the rite shot. Chess..

    • @osiris3yhn
      @osiris3yhn 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mathew Griffith nothing like chess

  • @724riff
    @724riff 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i know its an old video ..... but just in the breaking efren was keeping jessies wing ball buried and jessie was letting efrens fly ... afren wasnt even trying actually it didnt look like jessie was either ,.,......... the sad part of the pool match wasnt the poor shots or decisions in the game it was the fact that jessie had the chance to play the best all around pool player and took it for granite ,,,,,,,,,, he could have slowed ddown and savoired the moment . you dont get a chance like that to often i would have lost not that badly and only been playiong this game a month .......... but still would have slowed the pace down and even though i know i would have lost at least said wow in my head how cool is this .

  • @scottmitchell1861
    @scottmitchell1861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The announcer seems confused.

  • @1104krisweezy
    @1104krisweezy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a massacre...

  • @724riff
    @724riff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I realize this is an old post but I have to say , that you don't get better playing worse players so Jessie couldn't have picked a better player , he surely could have played better and it took him a long time to get a down table game going , maybe he wanted to challenge himself , and no disrespect to the announcer but if your a donkey after 10 years of a sport your just not cut out for it .

  • @rickpur100
    @rickpur100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:14:30 - California Billiards has 39-foot Gold Crowns?! Jaayzus!

    • @hatusilis
      @hatusilis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no... it has 30 9-foot Gold Crowns ;) ... not so huge, after all...

    • @owenmonast9582
      @owenmonast9582 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +hatusilis I would love to have just one

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      16,000 Sq ft ain't bad.

  • @electrecuted
    @electrecuted 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the other hand, leave it on... the guy is high and as time progresses, he becomes funnier

  • @jeffreyyoungblood7438
    @jeffreyyoungblood7438 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like I could beat this guy heads up but I'd ask for 10-8 from Efren.

  • @josephsaunders6649
    @josephsaunders6649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    45:57 great screw shot by efren

  • @RudyB-ti8ye
    @RudyB-ti8ye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The commentator needs to lay down the pipe.

  • @jonathanmiller7499
    @jonathanmiller7499 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Commentator has a serious case of the drips I mean a cold!

  • @sanjursan
    @sanjursan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing even? With WINNNER breaks???

  • @golfingmadeeasy
    @golfingmadeeasy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd hate to be putting up the $1,000 for Jesse. Not nearly good enough to think about playing Efren even!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nono4805
    @nono4805 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bata got a little lazy in the 7th match. He was up 6 balls to 0 and lost.

  • @derrickallen2054
    @derrickallen2054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Play the game, not the name

  • @robparry1692
    @robparry1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This commentator speaks like drake !🤣🤣

  • @dylanireland8784
    @dylanireland8784 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Give Daniel a break guys. it's hard to constantly be on point.. I heard him yawning.. were not always at our best. ..I bet if he was making a couple of gs for each steam he commented on it would be better. personally ...I am just thankful to be watching efren!

    • @az888fly
      @az888fly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dylan ireland
      Why doesn't he just stream the game, why commentate at all - when you're as terrible as this guy, just don't say a word - he ruins every video - every single video

    • @dylanireland8784
      @dylanireland8784 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol .the mute button is an easy option. Pool commentary is riddled with banter..I like it when pros are in the booth.

    • @themingee1
      @themingee1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he were capable of making a couple thousand per stream, people with actual talent would do it and Daniel would be out of work.

  • @conarlebarban2456
    @conarlebarban2456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    50:10 imo jesse made an obvious foul and no one either Efren , him or the commentator seen and or said something . He touches the 15 ball with his cue at the end of his stroke and the ball stops on the bridge.

    • @munteanucosmin7237
      @munteanucosmin7237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right. How this foul is punished in one pocket?

    • @muhammadhasbar1339
      @muhammadhasbar1339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      J

    • @dogatsiglat5698
      @dogatsiglat5698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was counted foul. that's why jesse got a score of negative (-2)

  • @pingmendoza719
    @pingmendoza719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesse should just give his money to reyes! This is like dog v lion!

  • @donsmith3857
    @donsmith3857 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    guy has no chance--zero

    • @bigdawg4reallongnlonely955
      @bigdawg4reallongnlonely955 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk what I am even watching. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm gonna have to read about it and maybe have an understanding.

  • @alwihadad7770
    @alwihadad7770 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know this match... random hit maybe hahahahahaha

  • @joebrown1382
    @joebrown1382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Efren has 7 for Christ's sakes.

  • @51Dss
    @51Dss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right around 1:15:10 or so it sounds like whoever the commentator is was doing a few lines of blow...and then again just after 1:16 - go figure

  • @cotegt
    @cotegt 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    did they each put up their own $1000 or was it payed by sponsors?

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe both players were backed.

    • @damiandacillo7694
      @damiandacillo7694 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      POVPOOL m😅

    • @themingee1
      @themingee1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cotegt I'd play efren a race to 8 for a thousand and consider it money well spent. Especially if I could have a video of it after.

  • @skipcoburger8732
    @skipcoburger8732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a joke...9-7 maybe...efren is still the favorite...

  • @parkergoodin4776
    @parkergoodin4776 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well when I read about this match on the forum I was wondering what made this guy want to play efren, but after watching only the first game is think he is going to get tons of action from playing this match. ;) as in he played horrible and I was drooling thinking about finding a guy like this near me

    • @royroynovak2572
      @royroynovak2572 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At 18:13 that shot is a difficult shot to execute. That 1000 may have won him 20000 later. Both were playing wide open in my opinion. I'll bet Jesse plays way better.

  • @zinc1024
    @zinc1024 ปีที่แล้ว

    not worthwhile. top pro vs. average amateur

  • @cesarturcios2485
    @cesarturcios2485 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:58 WOW

  • @MrGoodbye23
    @MrGoodbye23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is an "even" race to 8?

    • @waakid007
      @waakid007 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe in an uneven race, one of the players, normally the stronger one, will receive a handicap. In this case none were handicapped and they were both playing from the same score. Hence the term even race. If this was uneven, Efren would have received a handicap given he is the stronger player and the other player would have started each frame with a certain amount of point in the lead so as to even the match by giving him a slight advantage to compensate his lesser level.

    • @MrGoodbye23
      @MrGoodbye23 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      waakid007 thank you

  • @donjocson2311
    @donjocson2311 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    U made me laugh when u said if ur commentary is necessary.just leave them play by themselves.

  • @hibb1437
    @hibb1437 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    gilbert cheated at 58:51

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      cheated how?

    • @christianben5459
      @christianben5459 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He touched the ball next to the white with his cue

    • @Nunzio2641
      @Nunzio2641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianben5459 forget that....how about 1:14ish....Bata makes Jesse's 12 ball and puts it up on his....Daniel was corrected 1-1 but Bata kept that ball...not that it would have made any difference in this fiasco....lol Bata misses 8 and Jesse doesn't even see the 13 right in front of him

    • @TimothyNH
      @TimothyNH 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nunzio2641 I saw that too

  • @724riff
    @724riff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    did daniel say he had jessie for 600 against efren REALLY ....... are efren and jessie splittng out in the lot ? there is no way there was minimal 1600 plus on this match the way jessie played it ,,........... afren or no efren effect you can bet if i am gonna play i am at least standing at the table a minute at a time to get my moneys worth instead of just handing it over ......... i mean jessie left the cue in EFRENS pocket maybe 3 times or whatever in 8 matches

    • @POVPOOL
      @POVPOOL  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had no investment in this match and not sure where you heard that. This match was backed by a close friend of Jesse's.

    • @724riff
      @724riff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jessie lol thanks for even responding and I meant no.malice ..... But I thought I heard you say you had Jessie for 6 . And I bet he can play better than that .... We both know you can't be leave Efren all those short banks

  • @lazysmoker55
    @lazysmoker55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    worst guy i ever seen play

  • @51Dss
    @51Dss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st rack race to 8 for a measly thou against a club player - Efren was being kind and intentionally dogged a lot of shots - not gonna watch an hour and a half of a meaningless game - well I know it's a privilege for this guy to play Efren but makes for a boring video.

  • @edhartgrove7552
    @edhartgrove7552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Six games in 52 minutes? Someone seems to be playing TOO fast.
    Can anyone guess which player is playing TOO fast?
    LOL

  • @edhartgrove7552
    @edhartgrove7552 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At about 22:50:, the commentator said something that I've ALWAYS said. I don't care WHO I'm playing against. I'm going to insist that he shoot EVERY ball. I don't "concede"! I've seen people hiccup, miscue, etc. I certainly wouldn't concede. ESPECIALLY if I'm playing with $1000 of my own money.

    • @tyleralfrey8531
      @tyleralfrey8531 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edward Hartgrove it's more of a respect thing man. They only froze up a grand. Honestly, I would pay a grand just to be graced by the presence of Efren. I think think this is more of an experience than a player vs player thing.

  • @Martin-gz4qn
    @Martin-gz4qn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy needs to stop conceding balls to Efren of all people. I hope that was your own money you lost and not a stake horse's money. You never concede balls when playing with someone else's money.

    • @parkergoodin4776
      @parkergoodin4776 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your comment makes no reference to basic logic

    • @Martin-gz4qn
      @Martin-gz4qn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Parker Goodin What do you need clarified?

    • @RoyHorbison
      @RoyHorbison 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      it made perfect sense to me