I have an old Couesnon trumpet (ser# 64027). I think it's 50's or early 60's. I'm having a hard time trying to find any info on it. It plays and sounds great. I got a flugelhorn for my birthday a few years ago, from me. My 10 year old grandson will be trumpeting in the beginner school band next semester. I'm so excited for the both of us. I'm a comeback trumpet player and am discovering all these great videos out there. I NOW have Yamaha's Silent Brass for trumpet and flugelhorn. I would have been a better horn player if I had this back in the old days (1981-87). Living in a small home with a small army of people made practicing a crime. A constipated elk sounded better than me in my early days. Keep playing and smiling! God Bless!
My new CarolBrass Andy Taylor Phat Puppy pocket flugelhorn has shanks for both flugel and trumpet mouthpieces. So the opposite of the demo. Quite interesting to play with those options.
Garot - I really like your sound on all of these! I began playing trumpet back in 1962 and "developed my chops" listening to Al Hirt, whose sound I endeavored to imitate. Thus, my playing on a Bb trumpet continues to display the brightness and brilliance of the big band lead trumpet from those days. A younger player I know has identical equipment (Bach Strad Bb, 37 bell, etc.) but he gets more of a flugelhorn sound on his trumpet than I do on my flugelhorn. We tried every combination of switching horns and mouthpieces with the same results every time. Unfortunately, my flugelhorn sound isn't much darker or mellower than my trumpet sound. That's in spite of having owned a half dozen different models and many mouthpieces in the attempt to acquire the "right" sound. At the ITG conference in 2018 in San Antonio, I played every flugelhorn on display and settled for an Adams which seemed to be more mellow than any one I've found thus far, but even with it and the deepest Dennis Wick mouthpiece, I still sound more like a trumpet than a flugelhorn. So, what I've heard and learned over the years seems to be true: that one's sound "begins in one's head" and just maybe the bright trumpet sound is so ingrained that I'm beyond changing it now.
that's a great point, we all have our own "sound" for certain. I have had some exact equipment of some of my mentors as well and I sound nothing like them when I play even the exact same equipment. I would also say, that at least for recordings, there is also a huge gap in achieving the 'same" sound as anyone else as now you have brought in a huge diversity of additional equipment.
Nice video----The flugel mouthpiece on a trumpet just makes a more mellow trumpet sound, not a flugel, For years I've been usig my Denis Wick 2FL flugel on my Bach extra large 0,468 trumpet at rehersals, but not at show time, I use my Yamaha 631. I agree with you, the adaptor is a great tool to have, Thanks for the great video. Regards John.
Most probably, your Couesnon trumpet was built by Courtois, coz I've got a Courtois trumpet that looks quite the same, pinkie crook is the same and 3 valve ring at the same place... After the fire at Couesnon factory, still remained the name of the brand... Famous... As it is for the "new" Olds brass instruments... Nowadays, the son of the last Courtois director, Stephane Gaudet, is still making some custom trombones under its own name "Gaudet"... when the Courtois brass instruments are all made in Germany, by B&S in Markneukirchen... So, so, so...
I had an old Couesnon trumpet (ser# 64027). I think it's 50's or early 60's. I'm having a hard time trying to find any info on it. It plays and sounds great.
I like to think the instrument chooses the player rather than the other way around. That's why we often end up loving one that we didn't expect to love more so than other stuff we've used that we chose ourselves. When the right one falls into your hands, it just "clicks," and everything pales in comparison. Price, aesthetics, "specs," none of that matters in the end. What matters is...did the instrument choose *you* to play it?
Nice demo! I think the Reeves sleeve would be good for music where you're looking for something warm and in between a flugel and trumpet. I have a Curry TF (trumpet flugel mouthpiece) that doesn't sound as warm as the Reeves sleeve. Does the sleeve change the tuning of the trumpet?
I would say the only thing I can call out is that it feels like a $400 horn... doesn't seem to affect it's playability but it does NOT feel like my Schilke or even the Couesnon I have which are all exponentially more expensive, handmade horns. :)
I have an old Couesnon trumpet (ser# 64027). I think it's 50's or early 60's. I'm having a hard time trying to find any info on it. It plays and sounds great. I got a flugelhorn for my birthday a few years ago, from me. My 10 year old grandson will be trumpeting in the beginner school band next semester. I'm so excited for the both of us. I'm a comeback trumpet player and am discovering all these great videos out there. I NOW have Yamaha's Silent Brass for trumpet and flugelhorn. I would have been a better horn player if I had this back in the old days (1981-87). Living in a small home with a small army of people made practicing a crime. A constipated elk sounded better than me in my early days. Keep playing and smiling! God Bless!
You have a naturally warm tone in the trumpet 🎺 so the flugelhorn just brings it up a level 👍
Interesting you'd say that as it's very true... I have always had a very "pretty" sound but I'm not really that good of a player outside of that ;)
Well, I don't know about that. But to me the sound is 90% of any musical instrument.
My new CarolBrass Andy Taylor Phat Puppy pocket flugelhorn has shanks for both flugel and trumpet mouthpieces. So the opposite of the demo. Quite interesting to play with those options.
Chet Baker lives! Great job.
Garot - I really like your sound on all of these! I began playing trumpet back in 1962 and "developed my chops" listening to Al Hirt, whose sound I endeavored to imitate. Thus, my playing on a Bb trumpet continues to display the brightness and brilliance of the big band lead trumpet from those days.
A younger player I know has identical equipment (Bach Strad Bb, 37 bell, etc.) but he gets more of a flugelhorn sound on his trumpet than I do on my flugelhorn. We tried every combination of switching horns and mouthpieces with the same results every time.
Unfortunately, my flugelhorn sound isn't much darker or mellower than my trumpet sound. That's in spite of having owned a half dozen different models and many mouthpieces in the attempt to acquire the "right" sound. At the ITG conference in 2018 in San Antonio, I played every flugelhorn on display and settled for an Adams which seemed to be more mellow than any one I've found thus far, but even with it and the deepest Dennis Wick mouthpiece, I still sound more like a trumpet than a flugelhorn.
So, what I've heard and learned over the years seems to be true: that one's sound "begins in one's head" and just maybe the bright trumpet sound is so ingrained that I'm beyond changing it now.
that's a great point, we all have our own "sound" for certain. I have had some exact equipment of some of my mentors as well and I sound nothing like them when I play even the exact same equipment. I would also say, that at least for recordings, there is also a huge gap in achieving the 'same" sound as anyone else as now you have brought in a huge diversity of additional equipment.
Thanks! Great playing! Aloha
Thanks a lot! I wish I was on a sunny 😎 beach !!
For me, the Curry FL trumpet mouthpiece on my Strad or King trumpets gives similar effects
I also have a few of those types as well...
Hi, great video. Btw, what do you think about rotary flugelhorn? Have you ever tried one?
I was just having a conversation with a coworker the other day about the differences between the two since we were talking about Chuck Mangione
Nice video----The flugel mouthpiece on a trumpet just makes a more mellow trumpet sound, not a flugel, For years I've been usig my Denis Wick 2FL flugel on my Bach extra large 0,468 trumpet at rehersals, but not at show time, I use my Yamaha 631. I agree with you, the adaptor is a great tool to have, Thanks for the great video. Regards John.
Hello me again---I also do the same thing with my Holton Model 27 Stradodyne Cornet, this gives a very very mellow smokey sound. Again thanks, Jphn.
Well now...which should I choose? Both for sure. Such a great lesson.
Most probably, your Couesnon trumpet was built by Courtois, coz I've got a Courtois trumpet that looks quite the same, pinkie crook is the same and 3 valve ring at the same place... After the fire at Couesnon factory, still remained the name of the brand... Famous... As it is for the "new" Olds brass instruments... Nowadays, the son of the last Courtois director, Stephane Gaudet, is still making some custom trombones under its own name "Gaudet"... when the Courtois brass instruments are all made in Germany, by B&S in Markneukirchen... So, so, so...
I had an old Couesnon trumpet (ser# 64027). I think it's 50's or early 60's. I'm having a hard time trying to find any info on it. It plays and sounds great.
I like to think the instrument chooses the player rather than the other way around. That's why we often end up loving one that we didn't expect to love more so than other stuff we've used that we chose ourselves. When the right one falls into your hands, it just "clicks," and everything pales in comparison. Price, aesthetics, "specs," none of that matters in the end. What matters is...did the instrument choose *you* to play it?
That’s a great perspective, thanks…
nice sound!!! can u try with a yamaha 16E4 trumpet mouthpiece?
Here it is th-cam.com/video/KQnO9k7AKHo/w-d-xo.html
Nice demo! I think the Reeves sleeve would be good for music where you're looking for something warm and in between a flugel and trumpet. I have a Curry TF (trumpet flugel mouthpiece) that doesn't sound as warm as the Reeves sleeve. Does the sleeve change the tuning of the trumpet?
That’s a great question. It plays very well in tune for me and I did not move the main slide at all. The gapping must be right on!!
Dear Sir,
Any downside to the Thomann jazz flugelhorn? This guy has amazing tone with his
Paul de Stexhe on TH-cam
I would say the only thing I can call out is that it feels like a $400 horn... doesn't seem to affect it's playability but it does NOT feel like my Schilke or even the Couesnon I have which are all exponentially more expensive, handmade horns. :)
I've totally lost interest in trumpet since buying a cheap Chinese flugelhorn. It's so absurd, it's humorous.
I have a Thomann branded flugel and it’s great…