How to Charge Lithium Batteries

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  • @rrho6701
    @rrho6701 6 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    NO, NO, NO !!
    I'm an engineer who designs chargers for a living, for a fortune 100 company that you know.
    PLEASE do NOT leave the batteries on the charger when fully charged. When they get to 4.2v, you you start monitoring the current. When the current gets down to 125mA, you must REMOVE the supply. Otherwise, the electrodes begin to accumulate lithium metal on them. This clogs up the internal chemical structures, permanently decreasing their capacity by a small amount. This isn't the biggest problem. The biggest issue is that the lithium will demand to be set free, causing the cell to vent. Violently ! You can die, your house can burn down, and your insurance company will NOT be happy.
    If you want to keep them topped off, turn on the charger every week or so, and let them drink until the current goes down to 125mA again.
    Also, don't put more than 2 times the current into the cell, than it's rated capacity, or it will explode. The 18560 you had there must not exceed it's 2.5AH x 2, or 5A charge, no matter how hungry it is.
    Another thing, if the cell is really, most sincerely dead, with terminal voltage less than 2.7v, you can't safely let it eat 2x it's AH capacity in current. You must do a pre-charge. Limit the current to about 1/10th of it's capacity, or 250mA, until it reaches 2.7v. Then let it rest for about 5 minutes. If it holds the 2.7v, then you can charge it normally. If its voltage falls back, you can repeat this a couple or three times. If it keeps falling, it's done. Toss it. If it tests shorted, drawing max current for 15 seconds, it's done. If the cells heat while charging, to about 20 degrees above ambient, stop charging & let it rest. Only attempt to charge a cell if it's between 0 and 50 degrees C.
    You're right about single cells in parallel. They can be treated as one big cell.
    Each cell in a series string MUST be monitored individually while charging, to make sure they don't climb above 4.2v. If any do, charging must stop & the pack is unbalanced. Better chargers will try & match each cell in a string, to improve pack performance.
    The cells MUST be monitored individually during discharge. If ANY cells in a string falls below 2.7V, the pack MUST be considered depleted. If you discharge any string, such that a cell reaches 0v, the other cells will try & force current through it backwards. It will act as a load, and explode with great robustness.
    OK, that's at least $10k worth of consulting an analysis in engineering costs, free for you and your readers. Please heed my information, because I REALLY know whereof I speak. I'm not being an over cautious alarmist, despite what flamers may tell you. I have witnessed detonations in person. Please don't skip these instructions.
    Cheers,
    Randy

    • @MiguelGarcia-lx1vu
      @MiguelGarcia-lx1vu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It Is good to hear from an expert, almost all of those facts of charging lithium cell arrangements , I had to figer out for myself, throug experiments AND some times bad experiences.

    • @doverstreet4319
      @doverstreet4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So BMS would do the job 🤔

    • @GTari97
      @GTari97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Anybody know if BMS balance cells during charging, discharging, and charging plus discharging at the same time? My Daly brand BMS claims that it does, but it was described like it was written in chinese language then ran it through google translate.

    • @doverstreet4319
      @doverstreet4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GTari97 nope bruh..its not possible... One thing happens at a time.. either charge or discharge...not both on same time

    • @GTari97
      @GTari97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@doverstreet4319 I'm no engineer, but I've seen both yes and no. I mean phones are used while being charged. Manual kinda says it does too with the common port for charge and load, but the whole manual's in one paragraph using comma as a period.

  • @moiquiregardevideo
    @moiquiregardevideo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Mr Garcia, you obviously have lots of hands-on experience charging lithium battery. The important details left out are:
    Find those switching regulators which:
    - limit the voltage to some adjustable value (4.2 volt for 1 cell, 12.6 volt for 3 cells)
    - limit the current to some value specified in Amps
    - when current limit is hit, must not go in shut down mode, like most computer power supply do ; instead, it must continuously adjust the voltage to keep the current at the limit
    In other word, the power supply will start at the same low voltage as the battery discharge state. As the battery is charging, the voltage will raise while the current will remain at the fixed maximum allowed.
    When the voltage reach 4.2 volt, the power supply automatically enter in the second mode of operation, which is regulating the current to maintain that fixed 4.2 volt.
    The battery is still charging when reaching 4.2 volt, but it consume less and less current. It is really the battery that "decide" how much current it want, the power supply just try to keep the voltage at 4.2 volt and provide as much current as the battery want to keep that voltage.
    Now, to speed up charging, we want to provide a voltage slightly higher than 4.2 volt (or 12.6 volt for 3 cells). The extra voltage is provided to counter act the loss in the following components:
    - loss in wires
    - loss in connectors
    - loss in batteries
    The loss in wire can be decreased by using thicker wires. But bigger wires are more rigid, less flexible and get damaged faster from constant flexing. Typical cable in USB charger with a current of 1 amp waste from 0.1 to 1 volt.
    The loss in connector is often in the same range of 0.1 to 1 volt. Even when the exposed metal on the connector appear shiny yellow, imitating the look of gold, they may still waste part of the energy, which imply absorbing part of the voltage. Those bad quality connector become warm to the touch.
    The battery itself, particularly as they age, waste a portion of the charging energy. An old battery that waste part of the charging energy is exactly equivalent to a very good battery with a small resistor added in series ; both located physically inside the batteries.
    Let's take a real example : suppose the battery has an internal resistance of 1 ohm and we provide 1 amp of current. The ohm law allow to find the voltage across a resistor:
    V = RI = 1 ohm * 1 Amp = 1 volt
    The battery itself takes from 3 volt to 4.2 volt as it charge, and the internal resistance take 1 volt.
    We can also find how much energy is wasted by the internal resistance as follow:
    P = VI = 1 volt * 1 Amp = 1 watt
    Suppose that the battery charge level started at 3 volt and is now at 4 volt. Our charger is still pushing 1 amp since we are still below 4.2 volt. The total energy provided by the charger is:
    P = VI = 4 volt * 1 Amp = 4 watt
    The energy wasted by the internal resistance (assuming 1 ohm) is:
    1 Watt, as calculated above
    Brief, 3 watts are used to charge the battery and 1 watt wasted as heat
    All the long text above is to explain what make a battery to become hot during charging. The lithium battery are strong when delivering high current, but they easily get damaged by silly little thing such as overcharging them or discharging them too much.
    All lithium battery designed by an company, not just professionals equipment, but every device (even the cheapest Chinese clone and the cheapest child toy) include a temperature sensor which is used during charging.
    The charger inside your cell phone does the following test:
    - refuse to charge if temperature already too high
    - start in fixed current mode, with voltage increasing slowly
    - monitor for "fast" temperature change with high precision (down to 0.1 degree Celsius or about 1.5 F) and stop charging if increase "fast"
    - while charging, stop if temperature exceed some threshold
    - when the voltage reach a limit, switch to fix voltage (the current is decreasing slowly)
    The end of charge is determined by:
    - current below a fix value while voltage already at 4.2 volt (for example)
    - temperature suddenly raise at any time during charging
    When the battery get old, it may accept less total energy and may decrease the maximum voltage to a value below 4.2 volt. By monitoring the temperature raise with high precision, the charger can stop charging and avoid damaging the battery.
    This precise temperature monitoring technique is what allowed old battery to keep working for many months after the voltage started to drop. Somebody got a patent for that and that company probably still get large amount of royalty for allowing all of us to use the same cell phone with the original battery for a few years.
    The battery exploding in recent Samsung cell phone is probably caused by an engineer who wasn't not very clever. He didn't read the patent explaining how to charge a lithium battery correctly and use the temperature sensor in a smart way.

    • @marcelzak1247
      @marcelzak1247 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for a very good explanation. It helped a lot.

    • @100canOICIB
      @100canOICIB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      make a video How to charge them properly

    • @candisbrendel7396
      @candisbrendel7396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      HA!!! JUST A LITTLE LEFT OUT HUH!!???? JUST SAYING OLD ONE LEGGED JOSEPH T RETIRED NAVY

    • @OliverKempel
      @OliverKempel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a question you might know the answe to and it would be very appreciated if you would answer me :)
      So i wanna make a 24 volt 5s battery and i man planning on buying this BMS for it: www.banggood.com/PCB-BMS-6S-15A-24V-Battery-Protection-Board-For-18650-Li-ion-Lithium-Battery-Cell-p-1162772.html?p=4G190320067484201803&cur_warehouse=CN
      And just using a 24 volt wall charger to charge it. now i am wondering how i would know when the battery is at full capacity, Would i have to messure the voltage?
      Thanks in advance,
      - Oliver

    • @shubhamawate7623
      @shubhamawate7623 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sir, your explanation covers the basics of electronics in simplest way. Thanks a lot now i can remember it forever.🙂

  • @MotoAlias
    @MotoAlias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't realize how old this video was. I am thoroughly enjoying watching.

  • @mikecauser4302
    @mikecauser4302 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks Jehu, I find your videos both educational and entertaining :)

  • @Moist_yet_Crispy
    @Moist_yet_Crispy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this is an older video but it's finding me perfectly on my path of learning electronics and batteries. Thank you!

  • @afreemanreigns
    @afreemanreigns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dogs rule lol. One of my favorite channels, and this is a simple but yet very informative video.

  • @highdesert50
    @highdesert50 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing your adventures, to include both your wins and fails.

  • @paperwork1125
    @paperwork1125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I've watched it 5 times so far and will probably watch it another 5.

  • @rgones
    @rgones 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's nice to know that multi-parallel-cell lithium packs don't drift much. For anyone wondering, it may be because the 33 parallel cells each have a different internal series resistance (which usually causes voltage drift), but as such a large number of cells are used, the resistance averages out to a common number (gaussian resistance distribution; one has a very high resistance, other has a very low one and the rest are in between), and each series group gets a similar resistance, making the pack accept the same charge. And, as example RC Packs are usually 1P (1 parallel cell), the resistance between cells is uneven, thus requiring leveling.

  • @samuraijaydee
    @samuraijaydee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks man. This was really interesting and straight forward!

  • @beneby4923
    @beneby4923 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love your channel - really helping me learn on my current build !

  • @iliketobuildstuff7013
    @iliketobuildstuff7013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a great video I have had a usable understanding of this concept before but not the total application of it till now. Thanks (i am recommending this video to my old high school tech teacher lol

  • @philipholwerda4347
    @philipholwerda4347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the informative video! So what do I need to buy to make a charger for 18v 18amph battery? (I'M trying to charge 2 m18 9ah milwalkee batteries in parallel without using the milwalkee single battery charger)

  • @Shmade0304
    @Shmade0304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Things like this video is what I’m talking about in my last comment …I learn something every time I re watch one of your videos ..learning about batteries is just my thing now thanks to you …🔋🔋🐐🐐🙌🏽🙌🏽👑👑

  • @themonkeydrunken
    @themonkeydrunken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is really useful info. Thanks for posting man!

  • @nemisis010
    @nemisis010 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam, im just getting into this sort of thing and the first bit of this video was enormously helpful, you have yourself another subscriber.

  • @danerodrigez7135
    @danerodrigez7135 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's been a year, did you see any difference in voltage and amperage since then?

  • @ColinMitchell124
    @ColinMitchell124 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    new here and like what I am seeing. you are an inspiring creator. thank you for sharing your talents.

  • @lennygolightly620
    @lennygolightly620 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked! Thanks for sharing, I learned heaps by watching :)

  • @djruido1
    @djruido1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude you are so inspirational to me I'm starting to watch all your videos and I just barely order things to build my batterie packs. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @gregoryschift9324
    @gregoryschift9324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much voltage is your battery supplier for the samba and how much voltage the motor works with? I have the same question for the amps as well... pls answer me them.

  • @iamaseem6908
    @iamaseem6908 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you using fresh batteries for your power wall(or can i use laptop (recycled) battery for powerwall)

  • @deepwinter77
    @deepwinter77 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man I never understood Constant current constant voltage properly before this was really well explained.

  • @melcuadernotv4258
    @melcuadernotv4258 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's cool sir. It doesn't need bms, again its practical your doing great...

  • @neilking01
    @neilking01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    5:22 I know someone has probably already said this but 4.2v * 2 = 8.4v dude :)

    • @ChavMusic
      @ChavMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You're a math genius

    • @NETOGAMERBR
      @NETOGAMERBR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      7.4v is the nominal voltage, 8.4v is the charging voltage

    • @allexandruprroca6713
      @allexandruprroca6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He mean nominal voltage

    • @YvonSmart
      @YvonSmart 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He also said you gonna turn up the supply to 4.2v in order to charge at 7.4v pack, which is wrong. And he should have also added that this won't be a safe way to charge batteries in series! Different internal resistance so some will charge faster than others leading to overcharge (fire)

    • @kdevus
      @kdevus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have 11.7 or 11.1 V 3cell Lipos... SO FUCK ALL OF YOU!

  • @joeventura1
    @joeventura1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned something today! Well done!

  • @Totogita
    @Totogita 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your precious knowledge with us

  • @SouthSideChiTown
    @SouthSideChiTown 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Always love watching your videos. One thing I wanted to point out, when you explained series charging, you said two batteries in series are not 4.2, they are 7.4, then you add another 4.2 volts for a third battery. People just learning how to do this don't understand or may not know that nominal voltage for these batteries is 3.7. If the math doesn't add up it might confuse them. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks

  • @Pryside
    @Pryside 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What if your PSU can output very high current. And now if you charge a lithium-ion cell that is empty.
    I always heard they need constant current, constant voltage.
    Can something bad happen, when there are to much amps going into the cell?

    • @jehugarcia
      @jehugarcia  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Pryside yes, to keep things safe keep charge/discharge rates below 1c

    • @avid0g
      @avid0g 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, too much current is bad. The cell will be degraded. There is some evidence that charging up to 80% can be done at higher currents For Some Chemistries. That is how Tesla manages such a fast charge for the first 30 minutes at Supercharger stations. However, keep in mind that every cell in their packs are thermally bonded to heat pipes and are actively cooled when necessary. And, Tesla uses an uncommon chemistry I have only found in rectangular ie crystalline Panasonic cells.

    • @legominimovieproductions
      @legominimovieproductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'm loading my 18650 (out of laptop akkus) always with my old pc power supplie and a resistor that should limit the current at the beginning to 800mA

    • @AdrianSchwizgebel
      @AdrianSchwizgebel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Consult the cells datasheet for maximum charging current. Usually it is around 1C, if not sure, go 1C or bellow. Lower is always better.

  • @JOHNMORIN100
    @JOHNMORIN100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a blessing it pays to watch over and over your videos we are always picking up little nuggets hear and there some of us it takes a lot of repetition to learn and finally sink in thanks for your patience because of you we are up grading from L16 lead batteries to Li-ion John Morin in Milo, Maine 09-03 2017

  • @dimyttt1780
    @dimyttt1780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BEST VIDEO EVER . THANK YOU . YUO ARE A BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING :)

  • @fklotaloi
    @fklotaloi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello Garcia,Could pls show us how to charge 18650 with buck converter specially emphasising on current control , like CC , CV etc issues. If u make a separate vid on it, wld be so grateful. Thanks for yr videos .:-)

  • @chriswouse7713
    @chriswouse7713 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Not quite the detail I was expecting as charging lithium cells can be a mine field. It's not quite as simple as hooking an 18650 to a wall wart, which some folk my mis-interpret. You really need a control circuit: TP4056 boards are good for testing this, and are abundant on eBay. They monitor the battery voltage and regulate current into the battery depending on charge state. Also bare lithium batteries without protection circuitry built in should not be charged unattended, cos if over charge occurs...well lithium fires are a bitch to put out!

    • @Ask125
      @Ask125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

    • @Middle-Eastt
      @Middle-Eastt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My buck converter output 16.3v from my 150W solar panel input of approximately 20V, I expected my 4S setup to charge up to 16.8V but usually stopped at 16.3V which is the buck converter output voltage. Meaning lithium battery can not charge beyond buck converter set output voltage. The only protection I have on the setup is a Chinese made BMS which would have let the battery charge up to 16.8V if not for the buck converter setting. It appears to be a good charger for lithium batteries.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!! , enjoyed the session, as well as learing alot. Thanks.

  • @chrishansen530
    @chrishansen530 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey J
    First of all, love your video's, awesome work!!!!
    Keep it up, we love your attitude.
    I have been using a hobby grade "battery checker" something like the ones you use in your video's and after a balance charge on a high quality charger I have noticed a variance in cell voltages so I pulled out my recently calibrated Fluke Digital Multimeter, Just as I thought the cells were balanced perfectly but my "checker" was way off in fact both of my capacity meters were off.
    Just a heads up when doing benchmarks.
    Thanks again

  • @creeek3
    @creeek3 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really excellent and filled in a few blanks. I now have upgraded a couple of drill to Lithium. An converted the constant voltage charger to cater for 2, 3 and 5 cells battery packs. As this is the most comment electric drill battery size!
    Works perfect

  • @New777World
    @New777World 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    True! That would make a lot more sense! Thanks for clarification!

  • @We_Reddit
    @We_Reddit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    9:51 so you charge at 12V, but at what amps? Seems using 0.5-1.0 amps would be painfully slow... What's the recommended ratio of charging amp to total Ah/capacity?

    • @We_Reddit
      @We_Reddit 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or do you just do, cell x .5 amps? So if you have 20 cells in parallel, you can use up to 20 x .5 amps = 10 amps? I guess that makes sense.

    • @ikegel1923
      @ikegel1923 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @kenkhan678
      @kenkhan678 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      charging in parallel is a bad idea. how do you know that the current is shared equally? i suppose each individual current could be monitored

  • @thinkfx3078
    @thinkfx3078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man thanks for great content man just took up an interest in batteries an your video are dd best on TH-cam you got my subscription

  • @The.2.Minute-Man
    @The.2.Minute-Man 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi im just starting out with the Lithium Batteries and solar thing A big thanks for you're time and knowledge great info and easy to follow

  • @garolittle
    @garolittle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video (as usual). Thanks

  • @MauriatOttolink
    @MauriatOttolink 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a refreshing change on Internet to find advice from somebody who knows what he's talking about. Believe me Jehucarcia, there are SO many who DON"T but that doesn't stop 'em!
    Thank you....Love the dogs...Only once a week to the park? Send me the air tickets..I'll do it for the rest of the week and get further training from you while I'm there.
    Thanks and good luck from Brexit land.

  • @mosfet500
    @mosfet500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jehu,
    Thank you for the video, lots of fun!
    I understand the principle of slowly charging batteries for safety but I'm not sure about your charging. How are you regulating charging current which is a very important thing to do?
    Also have you checked individual cells to see if they balance out to relatively the same final voltage? How does Tesla, for example, charge a string of series batteries, is there concern for individual battery hogging? Also do they current limit?
    Thanks for your time,
    Rob

  • @hansolo3482
    @hansolo3482 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about charging a 3s or 4s battery pack using a desktop computer PSU? They're relatively cheap when on sale ($20-$30) and the 12v rail produces 35 amps. I figured you could use a bunch of imax b6 or another balance charger and connect them all in parallel with that 12v line. I've seen your open source balance charger but would like to know more about it.

  • @giotinez
    @giotinez 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video my knowledge is nada, now I'm starting to understand something (series and parallel). Do you have a video showing the samba construction ?

  • @goriverman
    @goriverman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks,enjoyed your video. I just started watching your video's, they are very informative and interesting.

  • @MYNICEEV
    @MYNICEEV 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am charging ALL my cells from solar. From the solar panels into step down converter. My cell packs are 21V and I have Step down set at 20.5V. Each cell has it's own protection circuit so will never shut off a cell. The series won't be broken. The series packs are 5 x 4.2V cells in series to give me 21V per pack. I then have 12 x packs in parrallel and then out to another step down converter to 12.6V for my home lighting. It is the prototype battery for my up coming TTPW (Tesla Type Power Wall). Videos on my other channel.

    • @kimt6333
      @kimt6333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Li-Ion cells are rated at 3.7V, just like Ni-Mh and Ni-Cd are rated at 1.2V.

  • @Kronos0415
    @Kronos0415 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY Informative! I'm planning to convert my NiCd batteries for my old Milwaukee 6024 drill. Thinking, 6 in series will give me a total of 21Ah with a max of 18-20v through a voltage regulator and a low threshold cut off circuit around 3.4 before they become unstable. Possibly may use a thermistor and voltage display panel(just for the curious folks).
    What do you think? May even be able to squeeze more in the old case and bring the Ah up. Thanks.

  • @jomtrader
    @jomtrader 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I have one question, I made 5 cells in parallel and 3 groups in series to be 12v pack and I agree with you to be not use the BMS to charge my pack so should I charge it with 12.2v cv/cc power supply or separate to 3 of 4.2v cv/cc power supply ?
    thank you.

    • @JS7457
      @JS7457 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need a proper charger to charge 18650 in series or BOOM.
      Don't follow his vid

  • @abnerflor
    @abnerflor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How you keep your batteries in that 2.5 - 4.2v without a bms.?

  • @junyline8564
    @junyline8564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your great postings.
    Im in Australia.
    I’m going to install 12v 240v 3000w Inverter with 12v 100ah Lithium Battery in my car.
    I’m trying to find a way to charge the Lithium Battery from 12v (120w) Lighter Port on dashboard directly in my car without connecting with my car battery if possible.
    Can you tell me what kind of stuffs that i need to buy from like Amazon?

  • @MasterYota1
    @MasterYota1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The battery guru. Thanks a bunch for the videos they are kick ass.

  • @user-vc8he3ft3l
    @user-vc8he3ft3l 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much
    Sr Good Afternoon

  • @ZaiFuchigami
    @ZaiFuchigami 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So... If I want to charge 3 cells connected in series and another 3 cells (same series connection) with the 2 groups connected in parallel, and if each cell can except 1.5 amps, how many amps would I need to charge all 6 cells?

    • @JS7457
      @JS7457 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      3A.
      but don't follow his video because he doesnt even use a constant current regulator

  • @MrGunningpeter
    @MrGunningpeter 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi , Can a adjustable power supply be connected directly to solar panels and then to battery bank? great vids ,.. thanks

  • @tiborkiss9186
    @tiborkiss9186 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thank you for your video. I have a similar situation and a question on battery charging. I plan to charge my 72v 100AH Li-ion battery bank using a diesel generator which provides a regulated DC 72v 70A. Can I connect it directly to my battery bank, or do i need to buy some kind of a charge controller? If yes, would a solar charge controller would do the job, or I need some other controller? best regards!

  • @neail5466
    @neail5466 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank-you sir, a very good series to make some practical battery xp, it doesn't matter how much you read there are always some questions you basically resolved much of them, i have a request to make , i know its too late but if you make a frequency analysis of various chargers including expensive balance chargers, it will really help many people wanting a in depth explanation.

  • @angelvelasquez7086
    @angelvelasquez7086 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i always enjoy your videos 💯 thank you so much

  • @Romit277
    @Romit277 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to solder or weld lifepo4 32650 battery.
    Your information will be very helpful for my work.
    Thank you

  • @gortnewton4765
    @gortnewton4765 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very tidy explanation. Thank you.

  • @GlaucusBlue
    @GlaucusBlue 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    any chance of a video on choosing a BMS and what to look out for, what you need or don't need. great informative videos as ever.

    • @jehugarcia
      @jehugarcia  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +GlaucusBlue I'm the wrong guy for bms talk, all I know is that I've never used one and I don't feel I need one

  • @mark8664
    @mark8664 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So where do you get your batteries and what's a good price for the 18650's?

  • @jaketraymar649
    @jaketraymar649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s that thing called that you plugged the bms wiring harness into to read the voltage?

  • @mhpreach
    @mhpreach 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2 lifePO4 12v 8Ah I bought the first of this month. I bought a charge you have to set type of battery number of cells, voltage, etc. I tried to see the charger work. When I hook either battery up and try to start the charge I get a cell warning on both and no charge. My other charger gives me a cell balance problem. What do you think? I just got one of the Miady 20ah batteries today. The charger is at my office so haven’t had a chance to try it with either charger.

  • @Maximchik520
    @Maximchik520 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    As i saw in your video about the tesla wall, u used different batteries in it, so does it metter when they are connected in series or parallel for charging them and will it help the batteries to due quicklier?

  • @LSZLO
    @LSZLO 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I would like to say thanks for this video, it was very helpful! However there is one question came to my mind watching it. Why is it necessary for that 5KW charger to change the current while charging the battery on 126V? Isn't it enough to leave the battery pack to also reach 126V to know it is fully charged without decreasing the current, the same as a single cell reaching 4.2V to know it is fully charged? Can you explain this a little more please?

  • @RonPiggott
    @RonPiggott 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What fuse did you use with the individual batteries? Do you have a specific web page that shows the exact part numbers?

  • @ktmryan788h
    @ktmryan788h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been watching a few of your videos and I like the theory and learning of it all. I have a question, I am building a camper van and want to have the coach / house battery be lithium to supply power to my 12v items such as fridge, lights, fridge etc. My question is would building a battery pack out of the 18650 batteries at 12v work for this application? I would like to have storage of about 100 amp hour possibly 200 amp hour, so i feel this would be similar to the tesla power wall to power my van, i would also like to charge the batteries from both solar and the alternator while i am driving, as far as charging via the alternator is there any thing special needed to charge it from that i know of the sterling battery to battery chargers however pricey but the other option is a ACR type relay but would that cause harm to my lithium battery pack giving it different volts or the battery demanding alot of volts from the alternator.

  • @joshuab2450
    @joshuab2450 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey great video. I need to charge a 10 cell 18650 battery pack. How can I modify or use a cheap 24 volt laptop charger that pushes 6 amps to charge the pack. The pack already has a BMS so i dont have to worry about overcharging.... any ideas?!

  • @onegreenev
    @onegreenev 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What charger are you now using for your Bus? You say you use one of those power regulators for charging your 12 volt battery. I don't see where these are able to take in your pack voltage then derate to 12 volts? I see they take 120 AC volts. Do they also take 120 DC volts that you can then derate to 12 volts?

  • @bluesywilliam2457
    @bluesywilliam2457 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned so much! Thank you

  • @baconsuds6688
    @baconsuds6688 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow great video just what i was looking for

  • @garyfox9607
    @garyfox9607 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video on how to build a 12v lithium battery pack to replace a 12v sla battery in a battery booster? I have a couple boosters with dead batteries and a couple dozen 18650 cells laying around. Thanks.

  • @DivPivShiftmaster
    @DivPivShiftmaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:35 4.2x2 = 7.4?
    I think it's 8.4 .....
    I'm new to this and I wanna learn more about setting up batteries please lemme know if voltage drops in series

    • @kimt6333
      @kimt6333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Li-ion cells have a nominal voltage of 3.7V and 4.2V fully charged, just like Ni-Mh and Ni-Cd cells has 1.2V nominal and 1.5-1.6V fully charged.

  • @1bigsyd
    @1bigsyd 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video can I ask where you got the battery box from as its perfect for a project I have to do,making a 24v golf buggy battery for a disabled friend

  • @kevinomeara2182
    @kevinomeara2182 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using chev. Volt batteries to power my golf cars. I would like to use the chargers that come with the cars .Is this power supply that you are talking about the way to keep from over charging my battery? We are using 2. 48 volt packs wired parallel And then to the car. My charger can put out about 20amp at 57 volts, and the goes down as the batteries go up. If this is the way to go ,do you have specific power supply you would recommend for this application.

  • @aspergerhellasbn
    @aspergerhellasbn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two questions.i just build a 3s battery pack with balance charge cable (did not put pcb) total 12 batteries .My first question :
    1)is it ok to use the battery pack without pcb? what should be my minimum voltage to stop using the pack?
    My second question is:
    2) if i try to charge multiple cells lets say all of them (12) but each cell have different amps (capacity).is this safe? I know its not the best (pack will not perform as it should). Will all of those cells reach their real capacity when charging finish?(i have a turnigy when charging).what i understand from you is that turnigy will keep giving 12,6v to all the cells and 0,5amps(my charge setting) untill every cell is full.thanks and sorry for my bad english;)

  • @miferthemagician
    @miferthemagician 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn a lot in this video,thanks

  • @erickelly8704
    @erickelly8704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Screw all that lol where can i buy one of your batteries 24v 30ah send me a link need it for my lead acid skateboard trying to convert to lithium need a smaller lighter alternative please help

  • @GEGP744
    @GEGP744 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative thanks..

  • @camerong9175
    @camerong9175 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what can u put your batteries in to charge them with that I'm using magnets to keep them together but because of the connection issue I lose a lot of mah on discharge

  • @asc556
    @asc556 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I would like to know if you wanna balance that pack how you do that? with bottom or with top balance?

  • @danielroark171
    @danielroark171 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's been a while since you put this up but I have a question. I have a tp4056 single cell charger but I have made a 3s3p module. How can I set it up to charge as a 9p module and function as a 3s3p module without having to rewire it every time I charge it?

  • @renatosantosRDS
    @renatosantosRDS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Jehu! help me out. If i have a battery pack of 3s33p around of 50ah, what is the max amp i can put to it? and send a voltage of 11.1. thanks in advance. And your channel is awesome

  • @josecuadrado3840
    @josecuadrado3840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello "J". Listen I had attended a Vocational H.S. and retired from the medical/medicine field and am able to follow, comprehend, technological trends and tech-info. I appreciate you willing to share with others what comes naturally to you. I suggest that, if you have something you want to share with an audience that may be unfamiliar/familiar, you write down exactly what you want to cover so that you don't bounce from one coincidence to another. Know your audience i.e. knowledgeable or novice. It gets a little schizo following your presentation: i.e. cover chargers-types-appearance-identify-connections-do's,don'ts-etc. Then cover batteries using the same approach. Avoid introducing terms, Sampo,? unless you initially introduce the item previously. Thank you would like to hear more.

  • @onlyme3543
    @onlyme3543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love all your vids bro!

  • @mrmshifan
    @mrmshifan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how do you know if the batteries are charged or dead(needs charging)? Thanks

  • @marktheunitedstatescitezen185
    @marktheunitedstatescitezen185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my 48v battery-bank I’m using 3.2v I have 13 PCs at 280Ah and I’ve got 4 PCs 3.2v at 200Ah can I run in parallel 2 of the 3.2v 200Ah = 3.2v 400Ah can I use 2 - 3.2v 400Ah in my battery bank of 280Ah & if so the best place to put the ? As the the main - & + or as the Batteries 7 & 8 in the middle of the bank ? But their 120Ah over the 280Ah is it better for all the life to just use the 3.2v 200Ah as is ? So the 280Ah are only 80Ah more ?

  • @aryajayasuper
    @aryajayasuper 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's safe to charge 4S2P 16850 battery pack with some buck converter with CC/CV ??? and how it work??? help me please.

  • @trevorjames5493
    @trevorjames5493 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a e-bike battery it’s lithium ion it has 36 cells in it they’re packed in groups of six I believe one of the groups of six got disconnected, the weld connection broke so that group of six is lower voltage than the rest now the entire thing won't charge can I simply just re-weld it to the rest of them and charge it back up to normal or do I have to take them out separately to charge them up fully to match and then reconnect them??

  • @luisfernandes4145
    @luisfernandes4145 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you change a modern car (whith electronics, traction control, etc) into an fully electric, or is too complicate? Thank You for your attention.

  • @adityavishnuvardhan744
    @adityavishnuvardhan744 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hiii jahu... i need a battery of power 1kw... can u pls tell me the arrangement and the num of batteries required and about the other accessories or equipment i required

  • @Th3Mafia
    @Th3Mafia ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video man, learning a lot, thank you

  • @bthatguy1181
    @bthatguy1181 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I had a lead acid battery pack (an inexpensive scooter) in 36v, does the same apply when it comes down to charging?

  • @KoRtExXx
    @KoRtExXx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i charge lead acid battery with that step up/down converter, set to 14.1v?

    • @CasperFaarlund
      @CasperFaarlund 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so, but check amp ratings first.

  • @isaacfragmatic4651
    @isaacfragmatic4651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to ask. Normally 18650 is max at 4.2 volts.and now i got bms for 26s config. Now how can i under volt them charging them at 4volts. Should i supply 102v and bms will balance them at 4v each cell or some cell will be 4.2 and some cell are lower

    • @Andres186000
      @Andres186000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of the batteries will take way longer than they should to charge, because the bms isn't smart enough to realize it isn't going to be able to top out the batteries at 4. 2 so you may actually be running more cycles on the batteries

  • @MaxGoddur
    @MaxGoddur 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What battery spot welder do you recommend?

  • @dezertraider
    @dezertraider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK,,I BOUGHT YOUR U1XP12,,IT HAS 2 CABLES COMING OUT OF IT..WHAT PINS DO YOU USE TO CHARGE IT?
    2 YOUR MONITOR YOU SHOW ON THE VIDEO FOR THIS U1XP12 DOES NOT SHOW HOW TO HOOK UP YOU BMS?
    CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PINS TO ADD A 2 WATT WALL WART CHARGER..POS/NEG PINS?
    VERY FRUSTRATING THERE WAS NO WIRE DIAGRAM FOR THESE BATTERIES.
    I REACHED OUT TO YOUR TEAM AND GOT NO INFO..
    CAN YOU DO A VIDEO FOR THE U1XP12 BATTERY,HOW TO ACCESS THE WIRES?
    THANK YOU

  • @dpos89
    @dpos89 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi jehugarcia: I am getting things together for a powerwall as in my area in Michigan I lose power in the home 2-6 times a year. I want a way to charge the pack and would like your recommendations on a way to charge it. Solar is not in the near future due to cost and efficiency here. What I would like to do if possible is run a small gasoline engine/alternator combo but have read this may be a problem getting them topped off. Can I power a solar charger with the engine /alt that may be the answer? I would really appreciate it if you could give me your recommendations for a solution to this question. I thought I saw a video of an earlier Samba trip your took and used a similar charger but didn't see what I could do to assemble one. Thank you for your solutions and videos answered on the tube. Of course I would need details as this stuff is all new to me.

  • @RixDobbs
    @RixDobbs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent education Jehu. Thank you. I NEEDED that.