Such a sad story. Not a Banksy fan but nice of him to show respect. Life is too short to hold grudges. Either forgive people or forget them. Don’t hold grudges. RIP ROBBO
Wow, that's such a touching and heartbreaking story! I'm happy Banksy finally owned up and ended the feud to pay his respects and it's sad that Robbo will never know it.
You're making quite the massive ASSumption dear ...... for you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what Robbo's soul knows & what it does not💫 lol many blessings 💓
Jimmy you're a really good storyteller. I like how you go through the history of the subjects in a clear and concise manner, and your videos are also funny to boot. Keep going at it man, I love your videos.
Maybe you should watch the documentary.....Exit Through The Giftshop........that's where the majority of this story he's telling come from so it's not like he did a whole of research on this subject
It's good to see when writers pay respect by leaving other deceased writers pieces alone. Same thing happened in 'my' country in the 90's. A young guy (TABU), addicted to hitting steel and street bombing, unfortunately committed suicide. After that, it was an unwritten rule to not cross his pieces. Rumour has it that other writers even refreshed his works, when they began to fade. Rest in PIECE to any deceased writer, keep rockin' in the afterlife ✌
So someone makes something new, then a decade later someone else steals the idea, gets mainstream recognition, makes max profit and gets hailed as the best ever while the original is ignored. Every. Single. Time.
I think it would be important to mention Psycho City here. This was an area in San Francisco where some factory owners had given permission to some Graffiti artists to paint on their walls on the outside of the factories. There were hundreds of layers of paint on these walls and where a lot of the art was developed past just writing one's name on a wall. Because the factory owners were fine with it, it was considered a legal spot, until authorities got involved. Long story short, it became illegal to paint there even with permission, and then graffiti kinda exploded from there on to illegal vandalism.
San Francisco Graffiti scene is not even relevant to EU graffiti since they inherited New York funk as a pure foundation unlike SF using Style Wars as a stepping stone to birth graffiti in the area and TMF and TWS creating the definitive foundation of SF style. Total different things, considering SF and EU graffiti literally started the in the same time, what you are mentioning here is a total stretch
This is an extremely deep rabbit hole, his tragically sad demise came at the exact moment that his name & art was becoming more appreciated by a wider audience, and the way he lost his life was extremely suspicious. 🤔
Not only that but he suffered his injuries on Satanic holy day April 1st- 13 weeks after New Year- and died on Lughnasadh the ancient human sacrifice night. I should know I am an old school London graffiti writer and oil painter still blacklisted, am gangstalked, cyberstalked, sometimes using the occult calendar, and receive death threats from the people behind this atrocity and their agents. I'm in the film Graffiti Wars, chosen by Robbo to speak for the grassroots old school graffiti community to Channel 4 and thus the public, hence I appear at 8.55 in the above film. The goldfish piece appears to predict the date and manner of Robbo's death, it's about to hit it's head and the term for a victim of an April Fool is a fish. I know the rabbit hole very well and actually have spent 14 years mapping it out in a soon to be released book.
He wasn’t mad about it being covered. He was made about it being half way covered and incorporated into Banksys piece. That’s what he said in the doc anyways. Apparently the rule in graffiti is you cover the whole thing and do your own.
Almost correct. If you decide to go over someone, then you have to out-do the old piece. You better have skills if you decide to take someones spot, or else it's beef.
@@JaredPizza whenever there are rules, there is room to play with/bend them and it's exactly his niche. the biggest problem I see is it wasn't his most inspired graffiti , by far
@@JaredPizza Yes, exactly. It's automatically a problem if you decide to go over someone without doing it properly. What Banksy did is super disrespectful to the majority of graffiti artists. Not only did he not cover the whole thing, but he covered some of it with "streetart", which is a joke to most serious graffiti artists. He was obviously looking for trouble/attention, and I guess it worked ;)
too bad he probably didn't even do it and it was probably one of his "team" because he's a posh rich c*nt trying to play "counterculture" it's not even a crime when you pay for permission to deface something
Amazing video dude! Really insightful, it would be nice if a some of your research was plugged or mentioned, all that footage from Style Wars is an incredibly documentary, I'm sure many viewers of this would love, and I bet there is more stuff we adore to hear that you've come across in your findings! x
Growing up in NYC since the 80s I have been infatuated with Graffiti as an art form on walls and especially the trains in the old days. Now older, I appreciate the beauty and parody of Banksys work and am fortunate to own 2 small, but original pieces of his. I have also seen the documentary on this story before, and while it has a sad ending, I'm glad Robbo finally got his recognition. You did a great job as well, however I would say that the biggest place in NYC was 5 pointz, not the trains, because they cracked down on the trains years ago. Unfortunately today 5 pointz is gone as well.
I'm upstate but my cuz lives in queens, haha he's told me hes carried a ladder thru a train station😁 He's probably 51-52 or so and was doing that back in the 80s. Havent seen him in a while but he had a huge scrapbook.
Under bridges and in buildings are chill spots and artists know that they're used for practice. Your art will be covered up either by another artist or the city in chill spots.
yeah but that wasnt a chill spot though, a chill spot would be a bridge out of the way, this bridge is under the btp headquaters, so i wouldnt say it would classify as a chill spot, especially because its easily viewable by anyone walking down the canal
That wasn't a chill spot, it was directly under the noses of the British Transport Police, for who Robbo was public enemy No1 because of his notoriety painting trains and had been trying to catch him for years. It was one of the most ballsy "you can't catch me" messages a graff artist could do!
Great video. I really LOVE your storytelling style. Robbo is using a spanish football club mask, from Mallorca island. A small club. Best regards from Spain.
Yeah, it's true that the whole stencil scene was big in France and other parts of Europe before Banksy was using that technique. Most people are not aware of this fact so thanks for shedding a bit of light on that. The Identity of Banksy was pretty well known to a lot of the early UK graffiti scene, it's a testament to everyone that they have respected his wishes and kept it a secret. Rip Robbo, a huge figure in London graff.
RIP King Robbo, the beef may have seemed vindictive to the outside world, but feuds and cappings are very much a part of graffiti culture, much like a rap cypher - there are very rarely hard feelings after the fact. It's probably a weird take, but Banksy reignited Robbo's love for the craft after decades in hiding, and mobilized the culture. Two kings flexing
a similar thing happened in new york to an artist who wrote SANESMITH, according to legend he fell off the brooklyn bridge while trying to put up a piece that covered the entire top of one of the towers. I went to the same high school as him, and they still have a piece of his on the back wall of the costume closet behind the stage in the auditorium. it may be the only surviving work of what was once one of the most prolific artists in the NYC scene in the 90s and early 2000s.
I always thought the deal was sane and smith were brothers, smith died walking home through heavy traffic like doom's brother (when he left the zev love x persona from the kmd days) and sane carried on his legacy in his writing by writing the two together including tagging it up on the brooklyn bridge
@@CasperBritto you are right, but its a kidney shot in the culture when a new guy just shits over big popular spots trying to make themselves fit in between the big guys with little to no experience.. If you want to do this, and be part of your local culture, start somewhere but slow, start with little tags in back alleys, small parks etc, learn to craft your style in shy and more subtle spot, and when you FEEL good, then you go on the cool places / big walls with the veterans.
Portland Oregon has some decent art but most of it is just single spray line text on highway signs or on the side of bridges in spots you would need a ladder and a climbing rope to reach
Well done! I was apart of the graffiti scene in the mid 2000s and I remember there was always beef between my boyfriends crews. They were well known artists that would paint downtown La and Melrose and some people would get shot or killed over it. Looking back now, it’s beyond foolish and not worth it.
yeah its fun to do when your a teen, but then you quickly realize its not worth it. And the only other ppl that really know who you are, are other graff artists and VandalSquad lol
70's kid, here at the start. Team Robbo all the way, he had the true original style of hand writing train art. go find the documentary Bombin if you really want to know what its all about
When I was in Portugal I was amazed at all of the beautiful graffiti. It’s a very artistic country that’s mixed in with the ancient look of the country. Lisbon is ranked in like the top 5 most beautiful cities in the world. I was at a bar on a rooftop at night and I literally got goosebumps at the view. The ocean just makes it feel and look 10x more beautiful. That breeze and the smell is electric, if I were to get married I would try to get married in Portugal. I was born there but left at a very young age and went back 3 times. The last time I went about 3 years ago I was kind of upset how it turned into a huge tourist spot but I understand why it is a hot spot for tourists in Europe. The beaches, food, weather, people and the laid back atmosphere is just sooo relaxing. My dream is to retire in Lisbon and die there. If you’ve been there you know what I’m talking about, the whole city is like a big piece of art! I just wish it had a better economy and more jobs for people. I noticed how over worked people are and they’re under paid. A lot of people leave the country because of this, it’s very hard to progress in countries like this.
You're literally rumbling about your infatuation with Lisbon in the comment section of a video about an unrelated subject. People like you are one of the reasons why Lisbon has become such a touristic, generic capital, soulless city.
graffiti always meant writing with style and eventually cartoons characters were also added to the art. stickers and stencil """artists""" were never and never will be part of this urban culture same reason you only write on public propriety. not private walls or shops. same reason a illegal spot will always be better than any legal and/or paid spot.
Super interesting story!!! It's a shame when someone with such a bright future, like Robbo, has an unfortunate accident that takes it all away. It would have been such a better story if Robbo was able to share the same space as Banksy till present. I could only imagine the amazing art their rivalry would have continued to produce. RIP to one of the GOATs
For sure! I was hoping he'd make it, and pop on out of his coma dual-spray cans a-blazing, sticking only to 'studio-based' created artwork from then on out...fued long over and him coming out the KING frfr, obviously cause of his name, but to having survived the coma (like Beatrice Kiddo, or some shite lol) a true G-move! Lmao! Bygones left as bygones, both to survive another day and move on, going down further in history selling more art! All-in-all...a 'happy ending' for all parties involved! (If...only THEY'D start allowing me to write ACTUAL LIFE. If...only...Lol!)
Credit where credit's due, Baksy did the right thing. Even if it took him awhile. I don't have much love for Banksy; and it's clear that Robbo was the real OG, but, at least he was man enough to put the pettiness behind him.
That is why it is important to try to clarify everything during life. We only become aware of what we had when we lose it. But then it is too late to realize that everything was transitory. Let's use the time of life to get along, to talk to each other and to solve problems between us. R.I.P.
He was killed. Robbo was murdered Why is it so hard to accept?? When money is involved then things changes. When a lot of money is involved then a lot of things changes. People who had invested millions in Banksy just wants to protect their investments. Its that simple
Not bad though the real difference between street art and graffiti is that street art is done with permission graffiti is the pure form and illegal murals are part of both though also going over a piece is called buffing it's ok to put a throw over a hand and a piece over a throw but not the same or a lower form over a more elaborate one sometimes even just an x is put over but it means war banksy is hated because he only uses stencils and doesn't show all the forms that other writers need to learn plus he's allowed to do them usually so hes a street artist not a graffiti writer and him representing our culture in the mainstream when he's really not part of it is the main issue
Banksy broke the rules of graffiti???? The main problem was he wasn’t doing any GRAFFITI!!! He was just a straight out biter of an artist (key word ‘artist’)to begin with …and people can’t seem to understand why writers had no respect for him! He was a blow in that had no business being part of the game.
I'm a graff writer, and I think those who clutch their pearls over the use of stencils or the lack of letters used in any particular artist's work is so lame. It's all about getting up, however you do it. I can understand why Team Robbo became a thing, Banksy should have respected a king, that's one element of graffiti culture I definitely agree with: respect the culture, respect your elders, and just respect other artists in general. Don't go over someone, especially if you can't put up something better than they did. Throws over tags, pieces over throws, and never touch a king's piece, especially one who has passed on or a piece that's a part of history. Add to that, Banksy just stole his whole rat theme and general aesthetic from Blek Le Rat, so he's kinda a wanker, artistically speaking. But stencil art is fucking dope, and takes equal dedication and skill, just a different skill set. Anyone who is beautifying their city with paint deserves applause. It takes more than most people have in them, and it's a rare breed. Keep painting y'all, however you fucking want. Fuck the buffman and fuck plain white walls.
Banksy stole his entire style and idea from Blek Le Rat. complete double standard, people drool over stolen work then shit on 99% of writers. Banksy is trash, I know writers with infinite more style and actual artistic skill opposed to a racked spray stencil.
Appreciate this man as a creator. Shows some of the most basic yet surprisingly lacking on this platform. Of basic human etiquette. Mentions his death and ends the video subtly. No jumping into a glory hole basking in "for the family the fans" just trying to appear amazing for credibility. Amazing work and social studies. I cant stop watching.
Watch out with calling Banksy a graffiti artist around some of the elitists (actual) graffiti artists tho, what he does is considered street art since he uses stencils for pretty much everything he does, graffiti artists use stencils sometimes for stuff like patterns on a background for example but some get very precious about this stuff. Whatever you wanna call him he's an artist all the same whether you like him or not he has his talent and that's pretty much undeniable. That said graffiti is a very strange phenomenon where there's a lot of comradery among most of the "true artists", the top dogs, but as you go down the ladder the hostility escalates rather quickly... the shitter the artist the more aggressive and gang-like, Toys they call em and they are what give this amazing art a bad name. Great vid as always ❤
@@wilfordbrimley6938 I call em elitists because they are and I say (actual) because as I said these elitists don't consider Banksy is not a graffiti artist, he started as one but he was aggressively average at best. Great designer, shit with a can. So yeah the purists or elitists do not consider them an actual graffiti artist like they consider themselves, elitist are gatekeepers and a lot of those elitists are (actual) artists in the sense that they bomb stuff with shitty tags and even vandalize historical landmarks, doesn't make em good but they are still elitists and the (actual) is obviously a mockery towards those kinda Toys. And who cares if he covered it when what I'm saying is to watch out, as he well put there's a lot of violence and rivalry turned to enmity because I've watched people get fucked up over stuff like that with other much smaller and irrelevant artists because for many considering Banksy a part of the graffiti world a is a big insult, and I cannot fault em even tho I don't share the sentiment, and then I pointed out the hypocrisy of many (actual) graffiti artists using stencils sometimes and other tools for their pieces. 2. Making comments with bullet points, specially when it's just for 2 things and the 2nd point is not only idiotic but also not even a point to begin with... is actually being a tool, Wilford.
the irony of graffiti artists screeching about what is or isnt art... and on top of the gatekeeping, to question someones motives or credibility while actively trying to sell out is astonishing to me. "how dare you tag a tag you dont own! thats disrespect!" -- if only self awareness was sold in an aerosol can.
@@sinista.productions an architect would argue that the wall itself is a piece of work. the city that built the wall would claim that their clean city is a piece of work. id argue that whoever thinks they have the right to spray anything is a piece of work.
A friend of mine died from this, he was a tagger, and one day he moved to Australia with his fiance. Two days after that he fell to his death trying to tag under a bridge, he was a nice guy and I miss him, but it could have been easily avoided. I know people like to challenge themselves and push themselves, and when you attention sensation seeking to that, that's when things get dangerous.
Funny how money changes people's morals. If I spray paint some stencil on ur wall, you will be pissed. But if banky does it, u will try sell it. See how money corrupts?
You should cite the Graffiti wars video that contains all of this information and much more depth. It is really interesting and is where many of your images and snapshots are from if I am not mistaken. Furthermore it is interesting that you are covering a topic about stolen material in the art world and not citing your source.
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How is this comment from five days ago
@@doormatt76 bruh
Thats exactly what I was thinking
Why he change the tumbnail
Banksy is staying anonymous to prevent his graffiti hurting his career in gay porn.
Such a sad story. Not a Banksy fan but nice of him to show respect. Life is too short to hold grudges. Either forgive people or forget them. Don’t hold grudges. RIP ROBBO
or forgive and forget :D
Wow, that's such a touching and heartbreaking story! I'm happy Banksy finally owned up and ended the feud to pay his respects and it's sad that Robbo will never know it.
I have no doubt in my mind he did it out of insincerity. It was a capitalist move, nothing more.
You're making quite the massive ASSumption dear ...... for you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what Robbo's soul knows & what it does not💫
lol many blessings 💓
Well that's the least he could do after having his rival killed.
Fuckin ameuters
He had Robo killed the circumstances around his death are shady Robo was a much better graffiti artist than banksy
Banksy isn’t a graffiti artist just throwing that out there 🤦♂️
Thank god there is someone that gets it
yeah he made a bunch of mistakes, street art isn't just large murals, it's graffiti that isn't traditional / letter based.
All graffiti is street art but not all street art is graffiti
@@fazehank5311 no graffiti is not street art. I know so much people in the graffiti and street art is a unacceptable thing
@@userr3brplybrk766 graffiti falls under the term street art and street art is respected if its illegal
Jimmy you're a really good storyteller. I like how you go through the history of the subjects in a clear and concise manner, and your videos are also funny to boot. Keep going at it man, I love your videos.
/agreed
We love it all.
Maybe you should watch the documentary.....Exit Through The Giftshop........that's where the majority of this story he's telling come from so it's not like he did a whole of research on this subject
Apart from the fact he makes most of it up as he goes along instead of basing it on fact. Ye great story teller 🤣🙈👏🏻
@@Devils-advocate78 nah most of that is true so
It's good to see when writers pay respect by leaving other deceased writers pieces alone. Same thing happened in 'my' country in the 90's. A young guy (TABU), addicted to hitting steel and street bombing, unfortunately committed suicide. After that, it was an unwritten rule to not cross his pieces. Rumour has it that other writers even refreshed his works, when they began to fade.
Rest in PIECE to any deceased writer, keep rockin' in the afterlife ✌
Yoo bro, sindsyg historie, tak for at fortælle den. Har ikke vidst det før!
Great subject, very touching an your ability to tell a story is fantastic! Much love an respect!
R.I.P ROBBO'
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So someone makes something new, then a decade later someone else steals the idea, gets mainstream recognition, makes max profit and gets hailed as the best ever while the original is ignored.
Every. Single. Time.
for real, everyone is saying how its a great vid when they couldve watched the original documentary 10 years ago and still now
and both trash
Yep. Banksy stole a lot of his work from Blek le Rat.
I think it would be important to mention Psycho City here. This was an area in San Francisco where some factory owners had given permission to some Graffiti artists to paint on their walls on the outside of the factories. There were hundreds of layers of paint on these walls and where a lot of the art was developed past just writing one's name on a wall. Because the factory owners were fine with it, it was considered a legal spot, until authorities got involved. Long story short, it became illegal to paint there even with permission, and then graffiti kinda exploded from there on to illegal vandalism.
The old grain silos!!!!!!
Thats the same as Digbeth, Birmingham, England.
how is psycho city relevant
San Francisco Graffiti scene is not even relevant to EU graffiti since they inherited New York funk as a pure foundation unlike SF using Style Wars as a stepping stone to birth graffiti in the area and TMF and TWS creating the definitive foundation of SF style. Total different things, considering SF and EU graffiti literally started the in the same time, what you are mentioning here is a total stretch
This has nothing to do with this story.
This is an extremely deep rabbit hole, his tragically sad demise came at the exact moment that his name & art was becoming more appreciated by a wider audience, and the way he lost his life was extremely suspicious. 🤔
Not only that but he suffered his injuries on Satanic holy day April 1st- 13 weeks after New Year- and died on Lughnasadh the ancient human sacrifice night. I should know I am an old school London graffiti writer and oil painter still blacklisted, am gangstalked, cyberstalked, sometimes using the occult calendar, and receive death threats from the people behind this atrocity and their agents. I'm in the film Graffiti Wars, chosen by Robbo to speak for the grassroots old school graffiti community to Channel 4 and thus the public, hence I appear at 8.55 in the above film. The goldfish piece appears to predict the date and manner of Robbo's death, it's about to hit it's head and the term for a victim of an April Fool is a fish. I know the rabbit hole very well and actually have spent 14 years mapping it out in a soon to be released book.
Banksy pushed him down those stairs is my hunch
"Sleep with fishes"
@@SilverSlayer hunnerd percent.
I agree
Banksy having a PR team really says a lot about his street cred. Long Live ROBBO!
It's called being a genius...it's like a mob boss having runners... that man can sell one painting and feed his family for many lifetimes.
@@allstarprintlab2675 ok fan boy.
You literally said long live robbo hypocrite hahaha
@@allstarprintlab2675 banksy is a clown an a biter toy
@@allstarprintlab2675 It's called being a $ell-out, and being a $ell-out means you have ZERO street cred.
He wasn’t mad about it being covered. He was made about it being half way covered and incorporated into Banksys piece. That’s what he said in the doc anyways. Apparently the rule in graffiti is you cover the whole thing and do your own.
Almost correct. If you decide to go over someone, then you have to out-do the old piece. You better have skills if you decide to take someones spot, or else it's beef.
@@stevenoest king robbo in the documentary said you have to cover the whole thing. Not incorporate your work into theirs.
@@JaredPizza whenever there are rules, there is room to play with/bend them and it's exactly his niche. the biggest problem I see is it wasn't his most inspired graffiti , by far
@@JaredPizza Yes, exactly. It's automatically a problem if you decide to go over someone without doing it properly. What Banksy did is super disrespectful to the majority of graffiti artists. Not only did he not cover the whole thing, but he covered some of it with "streetart", which is a joke to most serious graffiti artists. He was obviously looking for trouble/attention, and I guess it worked ;)
@@JaredPizza that wasnt what stretch was saying he has saying that you have to put something better over a piece thats already there
if i get caught im telling the police im banksy while spraying a stick man with a shitty tag
😂😂😂😂
ahahahaha thats so funny bro
This beef really sparkled some of the greatest street art works of London. And this final tribute by Banksy is so cool
trash
Banksy has a fucking PR team? That 'vigil' he created was totally fucking calculated. Damage control hastily made to try and save face.
What Banksy did when KingRobbo was in a coma was truly kind, it takes integrity and humility. RIP Robbo.
gotta do it when you are responsible for putting him there
@@customcutters how? How did he put him there?
Team Robbo team banksy
Nah man, what a shite, lazy attempt at a tribute
too bad he probably didn't even do it and it was probably one of his "team" because he's a posh rich c*nt trying to play "counterculture" it's not even a crime when you pay for permission to deface something
Amazing video dude! Really insightful, it would be nice if a some of your research was plugged or mentioned, all that footage from Style Wars is an incredibly documentary, I'm sure many viewers of this would love, and I bet there is more stuff we adore to hear that you've come across in your findings! x
Growing up in NYC since the 80s I have been infatuated with Graffiti as an art form on walls and especially the trains in the old days. Now older, I appreciate the beauty and parody of Banksys work and am fortunate to own 2 small, but original pieces of his. I have also seen the documentary on this story before, and while it has a sad ending, I'm glad Robbo finally got his recognition. You did a great job as well, however I would say that the biggest place in NYC was 5 pointz, not the trains, because they cracked down on the trains years ago. Unfortunately today 5 pointz is gone as well.
I'm upstate but my cuz lives in queens, haha he's told me hes carried a ladder thru a train station😁
He's probably 51-52 or so and was doing that back in the 80s.
Havent seen him in a while but he had a huge scrapbook.
Under bridges and in buildings are chill spots and artists know that they're used for practice. Your art will be covered up either by another artist or the city in chill spots.
It's not just under a bridge it's also along a got damn canal bro
Yea but he covered it only half.
@@mario-stumbleguys4458 the funny thing is he did the buff man buffing his art as if the city was doing it 🤣
yeah but that wasnt a chill spot though, a chill spot would be a bridge out of the way, this bridge is under the btp headquaters, so i wouldnt say it would classify as a chill spot, especially because its easily viewable by anyone walking down the canal
That wasn't a chill spot, it was directly under the noses of the British Transport Police, for who Robbo was public enemy No1 because of his notoriety painting trains and had been trying to catch him for years. It was one of the most ballsy "you can't catch me" messages a graff artist could do!
Great video.
I really LOVE your storytelling style.
Robbo is using a spanish football club mask, from Mallorca island. A small club.
Best regards from Spain.
There maybe a few secret Robbo tags on that island! Hope you can find one!
Yeah, it's true that the whole stencil scene was big in France and other parts of Europe before Banksy was using that technique. Most people are not aware of this fact so thanks for shedding a bit of light on that. The Identity of Banksy was pretty well known to a lot of the early UK graffiti scene, it's a testament to everyone that they have respected his wishes and kept it a secret. Rip Robbo, a huge figure in London graff.
Yeah, banksy 100% stole his style from blek in paris in the early 80s. Even some of his designs are hardly even different pieces
Did NOT expect to get this invested man! Solid storytelling 👌🏼
RIP King Robbo, the beef may have seemed vindictive to the outside world, but feuds and cappings are very much a part of graffiti culture, much like a rap cypher - there are very rarely hard feelings after the fact. It's probably a weird take, but Banksy reignited Robbo's love for the craft after decades in hiding, and mobilized the culture. Two kings flexing
Both losers 😂
Finally someone making the video essays I want to see 🤙🏻
Awesome video, had no idea of the extent of their feud. Thanks Jimmy 😁
I already knew this story, but it was still an interesting video! Great storytelling!
Came across one of your video a few weeks ago and have been binge watching ever since. Love the content , keep up the good work.
a similar thing happened in new york to an artist who wrote SANESMITH, according to legend he fell off the brooklyn bridge while trying to put up a piece that covered the entire top of one of the towers. I went to the same high school as him, and they still have a piece of his on the back wall of the costume closet behind the stage in the auditorium. it may be the only surviving work of what was once one of the most prolific artists in the NYC scene in the 90s and early 2000s.
I always thought the deal was sane and smith were brothers, smith died walking home through heavy traffic like doom's brother (when he left the zev love x persona from the kmd days) and sane carried on his legacy in his writing by writing the two together including tagging it up on the brooklyn bridge
Graffiti and how it’s done is amazing but there’s always the guy who makes wet noodles on a wall
gotta start somewhere.
@@CasperBritto you are right, but its a kidney shot in the culture when a new guy just shits over big popular spots trying to make themselves fit in between the big guys with little to no experience..
If you want to do this, and be part of your local culture, start somewhere but slow, start with little tags in back alleys, small parks etc, learn to craft your style in shy and more subtle spot, and when you FEEL good, then you go on the cool places / big walls with the veterans.
*glares*
Portland Oregon has some decent art but most of it is just single spray line text on highway signs or on the side of bridges in spots you would need a ladder and a climbing rope to reach
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 portland toy city
There is a good C4 documentary on the subject called "Robbo vs Banksy - Graffiti Wars" which is worth watching. You've summed it up nicely 😀
Well done! I was apart of the graffiti scene in the mid 2000s and I remember there was always beef between my boyfriends crews. They were well known artists that would paint downtown La and Melrose and some people would get shot or killed over it. Looking back now, it’s beyond foolish and not worth it.
In the tunnels Belmont 😉
Im sure I can guess the crews but won't say
yeah its fun to do when your a teen, but then you quickly realize its not worth it. And the only other ppl that really know who you are, are other graff artists and VandalSquad lol
That got really sad at the end. Rip Robbo.
Graffitis were actually already common in the streets of Rome and even Pompeii 2000 years ago in the Roman Empire, great vid as always
"Anything can happen even with small things. A drop of paint can start a war and end one"
-Alexis Gail L. Rivano
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70's kid, here at the start. Team Robbo all the way, he had the true original style of hand writing train art. go find the documentary Bombin if you really want to know what its all about
When I was in Portugal I was amazed at all of the beautiful graffiti. It’s a very artistic country that’s mixed in with the ancient look of the country. Lisbon is ranked in like the top 5 most beautiful cities in the world. I was at a bar on a rooftop at night and I literally got goosebumps at the view. The ocean just makes it feel and look 10x more beautiful. That breeze and the smell is electric, if I were to get married I would try to get married in Portugal. I was born there but left at a very young age and went back 3 times. The last time I went about 3 years ago I was kind of upset how it turned into a huge tourist spot but I understand why it is a hot spot for tourists in Europe. The beaches, food, weather, people and the laid back atmosphere is just sooo relaxing. My dream is to retire in Lisbon and die there. If you’ve been there you know what I’m talking about, the whole city is like a big piece of art! I just wish it had a better economy and more jobs for people. I noticed how over worked people are and they’re under paid. A lot of people leave the country because of this, it’s very hard to progress in countries like this.
You went on a package holiday to the Algarve - Stop being such a drama queen!
tldr
You're literally rumbling about your infatuation with Lisbon in the comment section of a video about an unrelated subject. People like you are one of the reasons why Lisbon has become such a touristic, generic capital, soulless city.
I will not get tired of saying it, banksy is not grafitti, it is street art, it is different, thank you for saying it
Banksy blacking out Robo’s tag is the equivalent to a kid turning off the Xbox in the middle of a game because he’s getting his ass handed to him.
Absolutely love this video - I'll be citing this in an essay I'm writing about graffiti!
RIP King Robbo. ♥
I had never heard any of this, what a great yet tragic story!
This is basically the SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT parody in real life.
I'm glad someone does mini docs on subjects like these, thanks for the content dude!
i flagged the channel
graffiti always meant writing with style and eventually cartoons characters were also added to the art. stickers and stencil """artists""" were never and never will be part of this urban culture
same reason you only write on public propriety. not private walls or shops. same reason a illegal spot will always be better than any legal and/or paid spot.
Super interesting story!!! It's a shame when someone with such a bright future, like Robbo, has an unfortunate accident that takes it all away. It would have been such a better story if Robbo was able to share the same space as Banksy till present. I could only imagine the amazing art their rivalry would have continued to produce. RIP to one of the GOATs
For sure! I was hoping he'd make it, and pop on out of his coma dual-spray cans a-blazing, sticking only to 'studio-based' created artwork from then on out...fued long over and him coming out the KING frfr, obviously cause of his name, but to having survived the coma (like Beatrice Kiddo, or some shite lol) a true G-move! Lmao! Bygones left as bygones, both to survive another day and move on, going down further in history selling more art! All-in-all...a 'happy ending' for all parties involved! (If...only THEY'D start allowing me to write ACTUAL LIFE. If...only...Lol!)
Read about this feud about 10 years ago, but didnt know of Robbos passing. RIP.
I think there is a movie about all of this but I can't think of which movie it is.
@@bnowb its called graffiti wars
@@pl0mp648 thanks yo
wow, that was a fantastic story and was told sublimely, chap you are swiftly becoming a legend
isn’t it ironic that it was ROBbo vs BANKsy
The whole thing is a prank made up by banksy, my theory is they are both the same person.
@@corneliousism But then how did Robbo die while Banksy's still alive?
@@corneliousism dumbest theory i've heard yet
@@toolbox6228 lol maybe he reincarnated as a graffiti ghost and instead of leaving ectoplasm they leave pure spray paint
@@Rebel_riot151 Omg 😱
Glad you mentioned Cornbread from Philly as he is the forefather, but lets not forget Eternity from Sydney, Australia who started in 1932
lol na
Banksy isn’t a graff artist he’s a good artist boy
Credit where credit's due, Baksy did the right thing. Even if it took him awhile. I don't have much love for Banksy; and it's clear that Robbo was the real OG, but, at least he was man enough to put the pettiness behind him.
Thank you so much for the vids love your work you inspire me
to do what lol
That is why it is important to try to clarify everything during life. We only become aware of what we had when we lose it. But then it is too late to realize that everything was transitory. Let's use the time of life to get along, to talk to each other and to solve problems between us. R.I.P.
Didn´t know this story, interesting and well told!
He was killed. Robbo was murdered
Why is it so hard to accept??
When money is involved then things changes.
When a lot of money is involved then a lot of things changes.
People who had invested millions in Banksy just wants to protect their investments. Its that simple
Not bad though the real difference between street art and graffiti is that street art is done with permission graffiti is the pure form and illegal murals are part of both though also going over a piece is called buffing it's ok to put a throw over a hand and a piece over a throw but not the same or a lower form over a more elaborate one sometimes even just an x is put over but it means war banksy is hated because he only uses stencils and doesn't show all the forms that other writers need to learn plus he's allowed to do them usually so hes a street artist not a graffiti writer and him representing our culture in the mainstream when he's really not part of it is the main issue
Well said
Banksy broke the rules of graffiti???? The main problem was he wasn’t doing any GRAFFITI!!! He was just a straight out biter of an artist (key word ‘artist’)to begin with …and people can’t seem to understand why writers had no respect for him! He was a blow in that had no business being part of the game.
It is hard to ignore the fact that the guy was doing well and then he had a fall.
never would i have thought a youtuber that has nothing in common with graff make a video this good on it. thank you man
Awesome video dude, your storytelling is excellent. I didnt know this story, watched every second with focus and even get emotional by the end.
I'd been wondering where you were and checked and the latest video had been 3 weeks ago, then bam 3 out of nowhere smashing it.
Ya basically copied that old documentary about this..........
Which documentary it was
grafitti wars its on youtube
So glad I got a shot of a Robbo piece further along the canal & captured a bit of history. Rip King Robbo
banksy is NOT graffiti!
Honestly whenever anyone revolutionizes any for art form people start dividing. It’s annoying that people can’t appreciate another creative
cuz its trash
There's a KFC at the pyramids already
I'm a graff writer, and I think those who clutch their pearls over the use of stencils or the lack of letters used in any particular artist's work is so lame. It's all about getting up, however you do it.
I can understand why Team Robbo became a thing, Banksy should have respected a king, that's one element of graffiti culture I definitely agree with: respect the culture, respect your elders, and just respect other artists in general. Don't go over someone, especially if you can't put up something better than they did.
Throws over tags, pieces over throws, and never touch a king's piece, especially one who has passed on or a piece that's a part of history.
Add to that, Banksy just stole his whole rat theme and general aesthetic from Blek Le Rat, so he's kinda a wanker, artistically speaking.
But stencil art is fucking dope, and takes equal dedication and skill, just a different skill set. Anyone who is beautifying their city with paint deserves applause. It takes more than most people have in them, and it's a rare breed. Keep painting y'all, however you fucking want. Fuck the buffman and fuck plain white walls.
I was with you till the last paragraph….🤯
Banksy stole his entire style and idea from Blek Le Rat. complete double standard, people drool over stolen work then shit on 99% of writers. Banksy is trash, I know writers with infinite more style and actual artistic skill opposed to a racked spray stencil.
Punk bands like Crass were using stencils to put up their logos and slogans in the 70's, long before Blek Le Rat
Condoleances to family and friends, R.I.P. to one of my hero.
Writers Should Unite
Team robbo 🙌
Appreciate this man as a creator. Shows some of the most basic yet surprisingly lacking on this platform. Of basic human etiquette. Mentions his death and ends the video subtly. No jumping into a glory hole basking in "for the family the fans" just trying to appear amazing for credibility. Amazing work and social studies. I cant stop watching.
Watch out with calling Banksy a graffiti artist around some of the elitists (actual) graffiti artists tho, what he does is considered street art since he uses stencils for pretty much everything he does, graffiti artists use stencils sometimes for stuff like patterns on a background for example but some get very precious about this stuff. Whatever you wanna call him he's an artist all the same whether you like him or not he has his talent and that's pretty much undeniable. That said graffiti is a very strange phenomenon where there's a lot of comradery among most of the "true artists", the top dogs, but as you go down the ladder the hostility escalates rather quickly... the shitter the artist the more aggressive and gang-like, Toys they call em and they are what give this amazing art a bad name. Great vid as always ❤
1. Putting "elitist (actual)" makes you sound like just as big of a tool
2. Jimmy covered that. ffs 🤦♂️
@@wilfordbrimley6938 I call em elitists because they are and I say (actual) because as I said these elitists don't consider Banksy is not a graffiti artist, he started as one but he was aggressively average at best. Great designer, shit with a can. So yeah the purists or elitists do not consider them an actual graffiti artist like they consider themselves, elitist are gatekeepers and a lot of those elitists are (actual) artists in the sense that they bomb stuff with shitty tags and even vandalize historical landmarks, doesn't make em good but they are still elitists and the (actual) is obviously a mockery towards those kinda Toys. And who cares if he covered it when what I'm saying is to watch out, as he well put there's a lot of violence and rivalry turned to enmity because I've watched people get fucked up over stuff like that with other much smaller and irrelevant artists because for many considering Banksy a part of the graffiti world a is a big insult, and I cannot fault em even tho I don't share the sentiment, and then I pointed out the hypocrisy of many (actual) graffiti artists using stencils sometimes and other tools for their pieces.
2. Making comments with bullet points, specially when it's just for 2 things and the 2nd point is not only idiotic but also not even a point to begin with... is actually being a tool, Wilford.
Banksy is an artist, but definetly not a writer.
@@toolbox6228 Yeah I think it's safe to say that's a fact
sick video jimmy, and on my fav subject too. BIG UP
fresh cut my guy
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RipTIE true sf legend!
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Brilliant. Wow, I had a lot of respect for Banksy before I WATCHED THIS. That first move was fakt up.
the irony of graffiti artists screeching about what is or isnt art... and on top of the gatekeeping, to question someones motives or credibility while actively trying to sell out is astonishing to me. "how dare you tag a tag you dont own! thats disrespect!" -- if only self awareness was sold in an aerosol can.
“How dare you cover over someone’s piece of work without permission” they say, after spraying something on a wall they don’t own, without permission.
@@sinista.productions an architect would argue that the wall itself is a piece of work. the city that built the wall would claim that their clean city is a piece of work. id argue that whoever thinks they have the right to spray anything is a piece of work.
What a story. Some of the graffiti from both artists were really quite interesting and quite creative
*BANKSY KILLED HIM*
Robin Gunningham kept Banksy but killed off King Robbo….
Humanity, and kindness takes a win, the world takes a loss, on a great Artist. Rest in Peace King Robbo
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Soooo banksy killed robbo?
What no
Loving the new consistency
He uploads a few vids per few weeks
Banksy is just an artist he's not a graffiti artist
What a story, really glad i've come across your videos recently. You're doing such a great job!
This one the greatest art feuds in modern history
lmao
A friend of mine died from this, he was a tagger, and one day he moved to Australia with his fiance. Two days after that he fell to his death trying to tag under a bridge, he was a nice guy and I miss him, but it could have been easily avoided. I know people like to challenge themselves and push themselves, and when you attention sensation seeking to that, that's when things get dangerous.
..that was awesome bro ..thank you for the upload from New Zealand
You are definitely going to spoil us with all this content in one week
TBH I thought the Banksy wallpaper over Robbo piece made both so much better. They complimented each over so well
Awesome to see that style wars clip! Not enough people know about that hidden gem of a documentary 🤙🏾
Funny how money changes people's morals. If I spray paint some stencil on ur wall, you will be pissed. But if banky does it, u will try sell it. See how money corrupts?
It Started in NYC & Philly. & Went Around the World!!! Long before Social Media.
Well told.. nice one.
You should cite the Graffiti wars video that contains all of this information and much more depth. It is really interesting and is where many of your images and snapshots are from if I am not mistaken. Furthermore it is interesting that you are covering a topic about stolen material in the art world and not citing your source.
"G Davis is innocent" graffiti from the 70s is still about as far as I know in Limehouse, and probably elsewhwere. RIP Robbo
The diss is him leaving it half capped ….. disrespectful
Imagine thinking writing your name on the wall started in the USA...
It wasn’t banksy who painted the wall black it was London council.
Thank you for telling em bro
Banksy is funding illegal immigrant boats to UK. Got his art work on it too. Something dodgy about the whole Banksy artist thing.
what you yapping about
Bro your going to pop off one day but these uploads are banger after bangers after bangers
Robbo was the real deal, Banksy is a Limited company Sotheby’s have a stake in.