The P17/Marksman 2004 is the best value in air pistols. Recoilless with a match grade trigger and adjustable sights add up to a real winner. I look for the older guns without the fiber optic front sight. Walmart had these guns. Hard to believe it was 20 years ago.
The P17 is a Single pump pneumatic and it has a much better trigger. The Ruger is a spring piston gun with all the vibration issues that go with that system, so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. The Buck Mark Vs. Ruger would be the fairest comparison, IMO. You should really do that trigger mod to both of the Umarex guns and remove the "Lawyer Extra Safe Safety Device" from the right hand side of the trigger group on the Ruger. It will make as big of a difference as the sear polish and spring change, which is mas bueno! Those parts act as a drop safety in the Ruger, but they are omitted in the Buck Mark. Go Figure? Ruger was the originator of the transfer bar safety in their Single Six revolvers, many moons ago, to prevent discharge upon dropping onto the hammer and allowing all six chambers to be loaded, so maybe it was a condition of granting the license to Umarex.
Well,you got yourself SUB,I would like P17.Have Ruger already,it's a nice air pistol,P17 would be nice 👍 addition for my collection... Thanks man,nice video...
Umarex U.S.A. restricts products while Umarex U.K. develops and sells new products for shooters in Europe !Not only restricts but messes up beautiful guns with white diaper writing! Iwon,t pay 200+ Bucks for a collectable pistol with white lettering all over one side!
Nice showdown but thats the winner I guessed because I know how accurate the p17 is with the right pellet. Its as accurate as it can be held. I have a p1 I haven't even shot yet but ld put my p17 up against it. Hmmmm..sounds like a nice project. 👍
Nice video. I have the P17 and hesitate between the ruger and snowpeak 500. I don t like the cocking effort on the p17 but it is a Nice and accurate pistol
Id take one of the Ruger plinkers too but I really like my P17! Close to a target pistol but with the plinker budget pricing 💯 {Talking about Nibs! I did a shooting challenge with him and "Real Airgun Adventures"using the p17 last week!}
The P17/Marksman 2004 is the best value in air pistols. Recoilless with a match grade trigger and adjustable sights add up to a real winner. I look for the older guns without the fiber optic front sight.
Walmart had these guns. Hard to believe it was 20 years ago.
The P17 is a Single pump pneumatic and it has a much better trigger. The Ruger is a spring piston gun with all the vibration issues that go with that system, so it isn't an apples to apples comparison. The Buck Mark Vs. Ruger would be the fairest comparison, IMO.
You should really do that trigger mod to both of the Umarex guns and remove the "Lawyer Extra Safe Safety Device" from the right hand side of the trigger group on the Ruger. It will make as big of a difference as the sear polish and spring change, which is mas bueno! Those parts act as a drop safety in the Ruger, but they are omitted in the Buck Mark. Go Figure? Ruger was the originator of the transfer bar safety in their Single Six revolvers, many moons ago, to prevent discharge upon dropping onto the hammer and allowing all six chambers to be loaded, so maybe it was a condition of granting the license to Umarex.
Walnut and Steel does a good job explaining the fix.
I love the classic design of the Rugar 🇺🇸 🇳🇿
Great video my friend, that p17 is a good little plinker. Yeah 8lbs is pretty awful but I do like the ergonomic factor. Cheers
you should try splitting a playing card with the P17!
I will add that to the list!
Well,you got yourself SUB,I would like P17.Have Ruger already,it's a nice air pistol,P17 would be nice 👍 addition for my collection... Thanks man,nice video...
Thank you much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to the Buckmark Magnum to come to the USA! AAR in the UK did a review months ago. Come on Umarex?
Umarex U.S.A. restricts products while Umarex U.K. develops and sells new products for shooters in Europe !Not only restricts but messes up beautiful guns with white diaper writing! Iwon,t pay 200+ Bucks for a collectable pistol with white lettering all over one side!
Nice round up! Should've Added the URX Buckmark also the Hatsan supertack break action!
Stand by it just may be in another video coming up.
Nice showdown but thats the winner I guessed because I know how accurate the p17 is with the right pellet. Its as accurate as it can be held. I have a p1 I haven't even shot yet but ld put my p17 up against it. Hmmmm..sounds like a nice project. 👍
Nice shooting 🎯 thanks for sharing , God bless !
thanks for the shout out!
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Nothing against your off hand shooting but wouldn’t the results be more consistent if you shot off a bag or rest?
I agree but it wouldn’t be as fun. lol.
Awesome 🔥
Awesome!
Nice video. I have the P17 and hesitate between the ruger and snowpeak 500. I don t like the cocking effort on the p17 but it is a Nice and accurate pistol
Id take one of the Ruger plinkers too but I really like my P17!
Close to a target pistol but with the plinker budget pricing 💯
{Talking about Nibs! I did a shooting challenge with him and "Real Airgun Adventures"using the p17 last week!}
Hard hitters?😆