Fixing a Snapper mower that's hard to start.
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Thanks for watching. This was a free Snapper mower, but we have to try and figure out, why it's so hard to start.
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By far the best lawn care fixing channel, you have. Knack fro these things my friend, and i see for many more years. Wishing you the best
Thank you very much Alexander Costa.
Nice Video! I found the same model Snapper at the curb. It would start and stall. I took the carb bowl off and cleaned out and the jet. Inside the carb bowl was the round metal slug from the hole in the bowl inside. I took that out and cleaned up and runs fine. Thanks for your video.
nice work and thank you too
i have the same engine so i will look the part number for the air filler
thank you Dylan Collins.
Great job on the adjustment. As usual. Awesome videos.
thank you and I appreciate that.
Great fix. Great video.
thank you S. Arnold.
Finally! I have been waiting for you to set the valves. I now know how tot adjust them. Awesome video!
thank you William Snow.
the transmission just like your showing here i what i need to fix for me ,,,,," hard to find " so far ,,,,,thank you
Glad to help
I have never checked the valve lash but now I will
hopefully it's in tolerance.
Very informative on the valve lash🇦🇺
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! Thank you for sharing 👍🏻
Thanks for watching Catcha Cow
Nice fix, I do my rider and customers mowers about every two yrs. Thanks
thank you Waterman one.
I have a gardening business and have quite a few mowers, (primary and back up) although I repair all my equipment I have never as yet worked on the valves, so it was good to see this and the other videos
thank you Andrew Orli.
Very informative video bro
Glad you liked it
That was a easy fix got to love easy fixes I have a ohv but it’s a new lawnmower knock on wood I haven’t had to check the it yet
thank you Scott Dunn.
This is the exact same engine as our John Deere lawnmower has. It’s hard to start and it’s the valves. It take 9 very good pulls to start with starting fluid lol. I didn’t know you had a video with our exact engine in it so we finally gonna do the valves! Our mower is 13 years old and we hope it can go for another 13! Thank you for making wonderful videos! I doubt our valves were ever checked or done before lol. Oh I got our air filter at our local ace hardware they had them but I don’t know that part number. But that’s where we got ours
no problem Matthew does stuff, and thanks.
You look like a very nice mower too thank you for the video
it's pretty good for sure and I appreciate your time
Amazing what a small amount of maintenance is required to get this to start so easily. I'm pretty much in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" camp.
me too, thank you The Lawnmower Lady.
Yes. We have enough to fix without fixing the not yet broken. Thanks Stella. Mow Happy!
Just picked up that exact mower today for free. (Electric start model). Flywheel key. Only has a bagger. No side discharge. $50+ is a little painful.
Best part: beer holder! 😆
yes you understand the appeal of this mower too! Thanks Political Correctness is a Caner.
I want one of those spark plug testers. Very cool and great video brother.
thank you, It's just a cool toy, I haven't been able to find a bad plug with it yet.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE hey brother shoot me an email when you get a minute. I need your mailing address to send you these carb tools. D Fields is dealing with Hipa and wants you to have them. 👍 Thanks.
Great work fixing that engine, just a simple valve adjustment made a huge difference, I only check valve clearance if the engine shows signs that they could be out of adjustment.
that makes sense to me, thank you WildeFox
Great video. I believe the Briggs part # for the air filter is 5059K. Appears non-oem filters come with the hole in the top.
Thanks for the info Fran Leck.
Good job HG. Pity about the parts that are missing but knowing you,,you will track them down. 👍
That's the plan!
I have not checked the ohv on mine yet, the two i have with ohv aren't that old & they run good so I'll put it off till they start running rough. Snapper is a really good mower. The frames are practically bullet proof. I own three of them, best mower I've owned!
thank you Mike Jones, I appreciate the information
The Kawasaki on the Snapper has never been checked and starts on the 2nd pull stone cold and 1st when warmed up. All the rest are 'L' heads except a Predator on a wood splitter and it's new. I have never set the valves on a Briggs. They just run.
I check the valve lash in the overhead Valve Lawnmowers. On an annual basis.
42°F is very cold for my location in Australia because I rarely see a temperature 🌡️ of anything below 50°F during the day in the middle of winter,the Lowest temperature I have ever experienced was 34°F (1°C) during the day which was over 20 years ago.
It's 32°C (90°F) today in the middle of summer at my location !
That's some maintenance routine. thank you Russell Booth.
I have the commercial type self propelled hyvac mower. Had it a number of years. Thanks for the video 👏👍🏻🙋🏻♂️💪🦾🗽😍 10-14-2022
Last Saturday from that date, it started on first pull after priming. Mowed 1 strip about 20’ long and it died. I failed to throttle it up, but it won’t start. It seemed a little hard to pull cord. Put new spark plug. But didn’t help. My mechanic had rotator cuff surgery 2-1/2 weeks ago, and he’ll be out of commission for a while. I don’t have those feeler gages. So, I may take it to another mower repair shop.
let me know how it goes.
Maybe you have already did this . But I think it be cool if in one or two if your videos if you shared your collection of parts mowers and weekenders. Exct..
And you new parts stash.
Just and idea . I know I'd get a kick out of it.
Great video as always.
Thank you for sharing
thank you Tracy Hanson, I'll consider it.
My chipper/shredder has a B&S OHV horizontal engine, and my Ariens 2-stage snow blower has a Tecumseh OHV horizontal engine, both from around 2008. Both still start reliably and run well, so my answer is "never", or "not yet". I will probably check the snow blower engine in the spring. Lately, after seeing so many YT videos recently of outdoor equipment engines that are OHV and are out of spec, I am thinking that the equipment might work better and last longer by keeping things in spec.
that makes sense to me Tom Lewis
I check mines every season 🙏👍🙏👍🙏
thank you RayFpv
Glad to see the snapper mower running alot better with those valves adjusted now :)
thank you Turning_wrenches85
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE your welcome
The last time I checked was last summer when I did an oil change, it was a Briggs 550ex.
makes you wonder why the OHV complications when a side valve would do nearly as well.
Is there really that much more efficiency in that design to justify the added clearance checks? For a walk-behind mower in the 4-6hp range, I'd consider it undesired complexity.
you're ahead of the class when it comes to maintenance.
I believe it's partly an issue with emissions. otherwise you're right, really don't need to go OHV on a lawn mower engine.
On that particular briggs engine I have always found a hard starting problem to be the pcv tube to carb rubber hose, it always seems to be cracked, it will hide the crack right along the Ridge so flex the rubber tube to make sure it isn't split.
I'll have to check mine
Same
thank you Mr Merhtin
My mower became impossible to start. It was the first one I had owned that was OHV. This was before I started watching mower repair videos, so I was stumbling in the dark, and didn't yet know to check valve lash. Somehow, I did it anyway, probably because I was out of other things to check, and it started right up; just like in this video.
So, anyway, I, for one, didn't have any idea that this was a thing to check, much less keep up with. I imagine a lot of other mower owners are the same, and either replace the mower or pay to have it repaired.
I've never seen this problem with a flat head, yet it seems fairly common with OHV. Do the rocker arm bolts just vibrate loose with use, or what?
thank you Lou S.
I only check valve lash if it's not running right.
that just makes sense to me too.
P.N. for air filter is 697029
P.N. for pre-filter is 273356S
I think that engine is the Intek, which I consider to be their attempt to take the very good Quantum flathead engine and make it an OHV. I personally would rather have the Quantum. The flatheads had a better tolerance for operating in rough conditions. They withstood misuse and abuse much better because of their flathead design wasn’t so picky. Cam pushed Tappet, Tappet pushes Valve, heavy spring pulls valve shut. Simple. OHV means Cam pushes Tappet, Tappet pushes push rod, push rod pushes rocker arm, rocker arm reverses direction of force to push valve. More parts to wear, more places for things to go wrong, weaker springs , all made lighter and weaker to cut weight. An ordinary homeowner could own a quantum powered lawnmower for 10 or 15 years and never put enough hours on it for the valve train to need adjustment. Even it oil changes were neglected, the quantum kept going. The principle of KISS definitely applies here.
very well said, thank you haneyoakie14
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thank you William F.
On my personal mowers, I check the lash every tuneup or once a year, on my customers mowers it's part of my pro tuneup.
wow, nice
How do you feel for the piston and move it? I have no idea what it's supposed to feel like... nor how to move it. Is there an illustration that shows the guts to get an understanding of what's what with the feel??
sure, I usually put a screwdriver, into the spark plug hole, and push it in, as for as it can go, then I reach under and turn the blade, and you should feel the piston respond to you turning the blade.
Your engine model type and code are on the valve cover or stamped on a piece of metal above the muffler, put the model and type in parts lookup (such as partstree) if you still can't find the right filter, send me the engine info and i will look it up thru the Briggs & Stratton dealer only lookup which is up to date and current and give you the air filter number. as for adjusting valves, no need to check them, only adjust them when they are suspect with a problem. Most Briggs engines built after 2009 (2010 to current) use RTV instead of a gasket, push mower engines, the smaller ones do still use gaskets, 10hp and over use RTV.
thank you for the information TheOutdoorPowerGuy, and someone already gave me the part number.
I think the part number is 692446. Air filter cartridge for intek 6.0-6.5 hp engines
thank you Christian Larsen
Good video. I am curious, did you adjust both valves using the same size feeler and if so why? I know most are set up where intake is a set number and exhaust is a different one as well. Thanks for a good video again!
looking at the Briggs website, and their page on valve clearances, this engine has a valve lash range of .004" to .006". I went in the middle at .005"
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Okay, sounds about right. I know some are in that range and some other engines are a bit higher. Thanks for the reply my friend!
anytime Rob Kercheval.
I check the valve lash on my mowers 2 times a year
wow, why so often? do you have that much run time on them?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE i put somewhere between 6 to 700 hours on them during the mowing season
that makes sense then.
Where'd you get that spark plug tester?
Amazon.
Hey bud I have a lawnmower that won’t start without the prime. What’s the matter you think
what is the make and model number of your mower, that way I can see what it looks like
How do you know if it's on the compression stroke
watch the rocker arms while turning the engine, when the intake rocker moves downs that's when it would be pulling air into it, then as the rocker close, and the piston is on the way back up is the Compression Stroke.
What do you think the latest Snapper models? I’ve been looking to replace my 2015 Toro SR because it’s a bit underpowered.
do you mean the gas one? I think the new ones are fantastic!
Yes that’s correct. Glad to hear!
I have a 25 year old snapper mower that starts fairly well, but if I shut it off after running for a while and try to start while still hot, it's almost impossible. Any thoughts?
sure the valve lash might be off, causing it to be tough to start when hot. The other issue could be that the carb is flooding the engine when it's hot.
I have that mower. Where can I get that blade that?
here it is
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did you ever fix the transmission on this? Something is wrong with mine and when I push lever to make faster, the trans falls off the bar. I think a clamp or something is missing
unfortunately I did not and that's because the parts that were missing would have been more than the mower's worth. So I'm not sure what could be causing your issue.
What are the websites that you use to find your mowers and other equipment
craigslist and FB.
Thank you
Post the model number for the engine on that mower, and I will look for that air filter for you if you haven't already found it.
it's shown in the video, I'm not too concerned with it.
Where did you get the shims from @insidehousegarage
you mean the feeler gauge set? there's a link in the description. thanks Cycle Master.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE thanks. You rock!!!!
These engines are the worst Briggs I’ve ever used. Will have more problems after adjustment it is super common for the valves to tighten or loosen. I ran this same snapper for a few seasons and got rid of it because the engine was so bad. My new snapper have the Briggs 8.50 and 8.75 and they are so much better.
thank you for the information Zack.
It must be warmer where you live...
not really. It's mostly in the 40's right now.
I clean everything i still dont have a crank
okay, if you're sure it has spark, and the timing is not "off" then I'd replace the carb.
Doing a Toro super recycler with one of these and fuck me is it a pain.
what are you having a problem with? the carb?
So it runs like my Chevy?
lol.. no hydraulic lifters here, but just as bad.
That’s my least favorite Briggs engine, they are hard to find parts for and it seems every one that I’ve had has odd running issues.
I completely agree with you.
This Briggs engine looks a lot like the Kawasaki Pro Line series engine. It’s just lacking the oil filter.
I never really thought about that.
People NEVER check lash. Stunned you did in the video. What about cleaning the block and cooling fins? This is a yearly to-do in ALL engine manuals. Overheats will destroy an air cooled mower engine.
really? I'll have to check an older manual, and a new one, because that would require the owner to do, more, than just checking the oil.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Yes really. Again cleaning the cooling fins on EVERY mower engine out there regardless of brand name. These are AIR COOLED engines.
so I was able read the owners manual for a fairy new toro , and a much older lawn boy 2 stroke, and they recommend cleaning the cooling system or the fins, in this case, every 100 hours , or once a year. IF people don't check the valve lash, I doubt they're going to bother cleaning the fins. thanks for bringing it up, I might mention it, in a future video, but only a few people are going to care.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE You are EXACTLY right. Most people only know the words - air filter, spark plug and barely new oil. LOL.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Again this is in EVERY air cooled engine manual out there. 2 stroke, 4 stroke doesn't matter. They are all cooled by air and oil.
IF THE VALVES ARE OUT BY 2 OR THREE THS. USUALLY HARD TO CRANK THEY HA VE TO BE RIGHT HARD TO START OR BURNS EXHAUST VALVE 65 YEARS ON THESE ENG. BUT I STILL GET FOOLED !!! TERRIFIC VIDEO THANK YOU!!!
thank you Jim Thompson.
Great job. And.. If you have an overhead engine and the valve lash won't adjust or stay adjusted, the valve guides are worn out from not changing the oil. Sell the mower. It isn't worth any labor or money.
Thanks for the tips!
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Cam wear, not valve guides.
@@watermanone7567 Not just cam wear. It's when you can move the valve stems side to side in their guides because of all the space from wear.
@@999thenewman Yes, but that does have little or no effect on the valve adjustment which moves the valves up and down and effects the valve timing. Side movement on worn guides causes more of an oil use issue, and has little effect on valve timing. I see lots of valve timing issues in my shop. Thanks
Valve guide wear causes oil use issues, and does not cause valve timing issues. Valve adjustment causes bad valve timing and makes hard to start issues and lots more fuel usage, and if the valves are to tight it will cause blow by and may burn the valves. I see lots of issues in my shop with people trying to adjust their own valves and do it with the piston out of sync. Thanks
That's not even the motor for that series of mower it has a series 19 engine on a series 20 snapper
really? do you think it's been swapped?