@@koyotecow7102it doesn't matter because sometimes companies would offer you less just to see if they can get away with it it was done to me when I first start my job then I realized and I went back after a couple of months and they said if didn't ask for more and then up my income
You should ask for more always, but I’m in IT recruiting and this is the top .0001% of data scientists. He’s most likely lying. Right out of school people in this field make about 110-120k and by year 5 will be around 200k. (Based on rates not in nyc or LA/ bay area)
Really all your degree is worth. It's why people get so booty blasted by people who became competent programmers through a 3 month bootcamp and on-the-job training. You spent 4+ years paying for useless English, science, writing, etc. classes to prove that you are "competent" whereas some codeyboi learned the actual skill in 1 year and demonstrated their competency while getting paid
@@Rainman8193 they didn't become competent through a 3 month bootcamp though. Becoming a quality engineer definitely takes a lot of time and commitment. Through a bootcamp maybe one can start out as a web developer, which is not bad by any means. Of course in the USA the university system is definitely overpriced and they force you to take gay electives, but in the rest of the world it definitely pays to have at least a bachelors. For my computer science / statistics double major bachelor of science, my total fees are 12k USD, and that included cost of living. For example the "proper" data science position, you can't take a bootcamp for that, that requires masters/phd. You really need that research component for those positions. Good luck getting around that
thhe dude earns 246000, which is in Denver Co 176.000 net, and by google a 2 bedroom appartment is 2700 in Denver which makes it 33000 to rent for a year, leaving him with 143.000 cash to spend a year, or 12.000 a month. that’s amazing. what am I missing?
I'm curious, why are you happy that someone is making a large amount of money? How does that bring you pleasure, that some person you don't know is being paid a lot of money? I don't mean you should be envious or hateful, I just mean it's an entirely neutral thing to me.
His salary is way out of normal range for Data Science. I manage a team of data scientist and engineers for a fortune 15 company and ours top out around $180k with bonus.
@@ilyas8523 I'll do a resume check for free. I'm not hiring at the moment though I have a ton of friends in the industry so I come across openings frequently. are you active on linkedin?
Remember this guy is talking about Total Compensation (TC). Most people in tech and start ups talk this way, which isn't quite accurate. He's including his stock package, which is usually a one-time sign-on gift, with a smaller yearly amount or a TBD/negotiated yearly amount. Bonuses are typically stock heavy or all stock and only come when start-ups have a ton of spare money, so not right now because money isn't free to borrow anymore. Talking this way is more of a brag than an honest conversation. The guy probably still makes good money, maybe $150k-$180k in Denver with the rest likely being stock. If the company hits it big, he's set for life, will have millions in stock value. If the company tanks, he just had a well paying job.
You know this for sure or just assuming?. I have a 225k sign-on bonus over 2 years. Those are on-off, your stocks/RSU are paid just like your salary, so it's not bragging factoring it into your total compensation. You would be lieing if you didn't. And in most companies bonus is not one-off it may vary year to year but you get a minimum which is more than what most people make. Maybe you are reffering to people working in private companies where the stocks may not be actual money. For publicly traded companies, stocks is as good as cash. It may go up or down.
@@notjohnAtall No I don't know this man personally but he said in the clip he's including stock. Factoring in RSU as if it's equivalent to your salary isn't being honest with yourself or others, though I don't think it's intentional or malicious. The issue with including RSU into your salary is a few reasons: - They aren't guaranteed yearly, they can change so do you correct your salary yearly based on the sign-on bonus ending after 2 years or with every bonus paid? - They typically vest over time, so if you leave or are fired prematurely you lose anything that hasn't vested. Which is similar to "you don't get paid salary for the rest of the year" but RSUs don't vest daily so while you'll get paid until your last day, you won't get that next vest period which you may have already worked most of. - Their value is not 1:1 with the dollar. Especially if your company is pre-IPO. The value of a share could be, and likely will be, dramatically more or less than the value by the time you're legally allowed to sell them. Quantity of shares is far more reasonable/fair to discuss. I would always share my pay as "$x + x shares" because I felt it was much more comprehensible. Throwing a lump sum of $250k at someone is partially worthless information to them because they can't use that to help themselves negotiate. Especially since when my last company IPOd my TC would have been $1mil that year, but that's incredibly unfair because by the time I could legally sell my shares my TC had already dropped 5 fold. The stock value would have carried my TC number so heavily that it was nothing but a brag to share, and a brag that I couldn't even legally act upon to get that money.
@@tylers3863 Those are good points. I agree mostly. And that's why I said pre-IPO company I wouldn't even include the RSU as part of TC, it might be worth zero when you want to sell. It's also try you might lose part of RSU if it doesn't vest before you part way with the company. I agree a good way is to say here's my base plus this and that. But even that most people who are not in the space don't even understand the concept of RSU. Most careers don't even have that option, I guess that's why people just throw out that figure. I totally agree a follow up explanation will make it more comprehensible
As someone working on a technology project that is fully focused on large volumes of data without any data scientist on the project, i can definitely see why its such a valuable skillset.
@@soultaker840yeah agree with the above comment - I'm currently doing a BA in psych and you learn **** fuck all about 'understanding human behaviour' lmao
There's difference between producing a product through physical means and mental. Most of them can do manpower related works but only few can do complex math related problems. But that doesn't mean people with good physical attributes wont earn alot. They can if they can get very skilled at that, ex: sports, doesn't require a lot of complex problem solving but should be very skilled at their job by practing a lot.
It’s okay 😂I went to college and got a masters and he still makes 4x what I make. I’m a special education teacher and work with kids with severe autism. Money is in big tech, pharma, all those types of companies.
His advice was really good advice. Working in data (analyst not scientist, but somewhat similar with self learning) you really want to focus hard on projects. I learned myself by jumping straight into end to end projects step by step on TH-cam, because you learn by trial and error. Then I supplemented with actual skill learning online with sites like datacamp and datalemur. Truly make sure you supplement your self learning with actual projects that display your work and competency.
@@KP99 it's relatively hard but it's not too hard you have to understand a little bit of calculus in order to understand statistics. I'm a computer engineering graduate.
@@bnumber8or he’s just an f boy who’s all about that humble brag when he keeps saying “a little higher” and people are like “ZOMG no way!!! Wow!!” You’re not a licensed physician. You can’t just diagnose people as if it’s a fact. Stop that.
That dudes advice at the end is super valuable, using what you learn at a boot camp and turning that into interesting personal projects is a great way to get hiring managers to notice you.
there's a transversal branch in psychology that's called psychometrics and it's purely statistical. It's one of the most profitable psychology branches if not the most. So it's not even a transition at all.
Not really. Anything that’s statistics and data modeling heavy is a good bet. I know a girl who went into it from a linguistics bachelors because she used stats so much
What on earth is “wild” when transitioning from psychology to “data science”? A person who has any clue about psychology would not make such a statement and a person who does not probably should not. No offense. Instead, an invitation (a bit brisk admittedly sorry) to learn more about psychology. It’s probably worth it. All the best and much love to everyone - Candygrabber ❤
I 100% believe him. Once he mentioned proof of competency and how bootcamps can help propel you to that. Not “they’ll help get you an interview or improve your skills”. Good man
I like that he didn't bash boot camps. I did IBM's Data Sci boot camp and AWS online training. And, I make $238K plus applications royalties (about $11K per quarter). So....
@naufalsamrath Yep. I was working as a PM contractor and a recruiter told me to do it. I have a research (dev genetics) background so the math and research points I already had covered- and R programming.
@Jormungadr I had to put in about 12hr per week, I scheduled the time in. I still practice on concepts that aren't immediately being used. I would recommend practicing Python and practice some more. Take days off. Also, take a db cert class, learn about data lakes and ML. I've worked in clinical research and the riding theme with science careers is that you are always at study.
Average starting salary is 200k+?? There's gotta be one of the highest paying jobs.... Which universities are known for providing the best masters degree in data science if you don't mind me asking??
Wish I could make that much money with this kind of job. Omg i got emotional😂. Actually money is not that thing. The thing is doing something that can make myself proud. If you make even more by doing something illegal will not make you proud like him. Respect for this man.
@@Atlas92936no he’s bragging. He knows it’s not “a little higher” but wants to take her on a guessing game where the answer keeps being “a little higher” until he finally wows us with his gross pay because the gross is larger than take home and it makes him seem richer than he really is. This is the type of guy who knows how to impress others in his humblebrag speak. Well spoken and smart but has to prove he’s better than other people.
I make about $330k and it is extremely awkward answering this question to anyone that isn't already wealthy. I'm not telling my friends and family -- that are poor as shit and can barely pay rent -- that I make in a month what they do in a year.
I am in IT for 25+ years and my skillset is broad and I worked in many industries and startups. The highest offer I received was $475k in 2012 and I had turned it down because I wanted to stay with my family. The money isn't everything and it is really what you desire in life. Before covid I was on a data science team at a startup. I wish to get back in a data science project at end of my contract this year. It is hard to make that kind if money theae days.
I got a degree in psychology. Top of my class. Got a master's degree related to data science. I am just keeping studying to get into software development because my country job market didn't absorb me as a data scientist. Don't let this guy fool you. He is in the right country, nothing else. In spain you only work in data science if you have a PhD in quantitative field or you are an engineer.
Terrible advice. You could retire in ten years with that salary and do whatever the fuck you LOVE for the rest of your life without having to slave away. Do what you must not what you love. This isn’t preschool.
Dang. You blew up. Finally. Good work. I follow you on multiple platforms, all different names. I remember on Facebook when you had less than 1000 likes per video. Great work and thanks for keeping me entertained.
I’m a business major, concentrating on data sci and analytics, I thought the job market capped at like 150k, but this is really promising. Not only that I also weirdly planned to move to Colorado once out of college to start a family.
Bro what, how did you think it called at 150k? That's literally average salary in data science, anyone with descent experience in a field will always make more than average.
I once thought that to, but in many fields now they’re really starting to hand out some hefty salaries (as they should because inflation). Typically this is in STEM and the finance fields in big cities. It’s not uncommon to see a few decades of experience getting $300k or more. After 10 years a lot of these people already near $200k it seems. Personally I know of a few people 50/60 years old getting $400k salaries or more in NYC. At that point they’re ushered in as a president, or a lead, because of all that experience.
@@KP99 not too bad...u do need to understand advanced statistical methods which are a vast, deep area of applied math so we are talking about hours of study of lots of topics to get comfortable with diff techniques and how to choose most appropriate way to test database relationships. arithmetic wise your doing zero math in the end because numpy and R and most other proprietary solutions already have most statistical functions coded.
Mom’s friend has a similar salary and he works 70 hour work weeks on average.. so I would assume around that 🤔 though I also know having a masters really shoots the salary up
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Exactly, and they don’t even require a degree or high school diploma at most companies for data scientist and software engineering roles.
@@badcholesterolexactly. If you interview people walking around Denver, you’re going to interview mostly rich people who have the money to live in and enjoy denver
over here in Italy we get paid from 26k up to 34k in 90% of cases, in moldavia it is usually less than 6k per year, but we have also less expenses in europe, tech costs the same tho...
He’s a data scientist aka super nerd. Usually super nerd spend their money elsewhere and flashy clothes or cars aren’t those things. He probably has a sick home theatre set up and top of the line computers.
@sharinglungs3226 yeah and wealthier people are usually skilled. Nerds have a much higher chance of being skilled, so the point that was originally made stands true?
@@HomelessOnlinenah they're even more incompetent than the Democrats somehow and their last big tax cut bill under Trump 86% of the benefits went to the top 1% over a ten year stretch so again hell no
From what I understand: 245k is not what he brings home every year. If you get 70k in equality then that's a one time thing, not a yearly occurrence (but 70k might be paid out in 2-4 years). If you get equality in stocks, then once the stocks are vested you usually don't get more stocks, meaning 70k in stocks is also a one time thing. Base salary is the only constant in the total compensation, which is a lot less than 245k especially after tax. So his total compensation may be: base salary: 140k, stocks: 70k, sign on bonus 35k. 140k is what you'll bring home (before tax) after all your stocks are vested and all sign on bonus is given.
No. He works at google. You are granted a total amount of shares that spans across 4 years. 70k is what he receives at the end of the year and that is recurring and usually increases the closer you get to the 4th year of fully vesting your total equity package. So that total amount isn’t 70k, it’s likely 70k * 4= 280k.
@@horologie yep, and then you get refreshers each year that stack for equity. so at year 4 you are vesting 4 grants, huge pay day. btw your user name, into watches?
I'll call bullshit. For a 6 year DS he probably at $180K base on he high end, depending on company. He said equity, so he's at a startup and may be a co-founder, so that may have something to do with it.
@@dwight_s boulder is just as bad if not worse. Upper middle class women walking with their babies in the stroller in the park at 11th and walnut besides crowds of circles of homeless shooting and smoking heroine, crystal and fentanyl blowing the shit down wind towards the kids. Crazies harassing you there by the river and everyone there just lives with it, letting it be okay.
People lie and a lot of people lie on these videos. A big trend in tech currently is also to list TOTAL compensation. Salary, benefits, 401k match, whatever. Good on anyone making that amount of scratch, but remember there is no such thing as a free lunch. If they're going to pay you a quarter of a million dollars a year, you're going to WORK.
Who wouldn’t expect to work for that kind of salary? Don’t you realize why people are paid higher amount of money? It’s usually because they have a particular set of skills that sets them apart from most and therefore they’re compensated to perform them and do it well. And no, most tech workers don’t lie about their salary. They usually tell you the base salary and then the equity. Which is known as total compensation. Nobody that I’ve ever seen in tech ever includes their 401k or benefits as income. You’re likely just very jealous and broke and have to make up theories like this to justify why you’ll never make that kind of money.
A masters can definitely help, but nowadays there are bachelors degrees, that I have a focus in AI which includes machine learning. I imagine he got his degree before any of these newer degrees were available as they all only became available around 2021/2022.
She: 1 Billion
He: little Higher 💀
He didn't even say that though..
@kevinm5898
Gonna have to ask you to log off for me bud
@@KingChoripan No thanks.
Point is it was a lot higher but he keept saying the whole time just "a little higher" 😅
A little higher ehhh
A little higher ehhh
A little higher ehhh
😂 cringe
I’m a data scientist and I just realized I should ask for more money.
It's not about your role it's about what data you're working with. You're comment explains why you're not making more.
@@koyotecow7102*your
@@koyotecow7102it doesn't matter because sometimes companies would offer you less just to see if they can get away with it it was done to me when I first start my job then I realized and I went back after a couple of months and they said if didn't ask for more and then up my income
@koyotecow7102 she's a comment? Lmao bruh. Your*
You should ask for more always, but I’m in IT recruiting and this is the top .0001% of data scientists. He’s most likely lying. Right out of school people in this field make about 110-120k and by year 5 will be around 200k. (Based on rates not in nyc or LA/ bay area)
me: little lower, little lower, little lower...been doing it for 15 years...still lower...getting lower...
Hehe India.
😂😂😂
😂
Lol don't worry that's most of us
Omg 😂 😂😂
“You want proof of competency”…best statement in video.👍
And it almost got cut 😂🤦♂️
Sooo, African feminist basket weaving won't help?
Really all your degree is worth. It's why people get so booty blasted by people who became competent programmers through a 3 month bootcamp and on-the-job training. You spent 4+ years paying for useless English, science, writing, etc. classes to prove that you are "competent" whereas some codeyboi learned the actual skill in 1 year and demonstrated their competency while getting paid
And had free time to start building a side project- another evidence of competency! You don't need a 4 year degree for most tech jobs now
@@Rainman8193 they didn't become competent through a 3 month bootcamp though. Becoming a quality engineer definitely takes a lot of time and commitment. Through a bootcamp maybe one can start out as a web developer, which is not bad by any means.
Of course in the USA the university system is definitely overpriced and they force you to take gay electives, but in the rest of the world it definitely pays to have at least a bachelors.
For my computer science / statistics double major bachelor of science, my total fees are 12k USD, and that included cost of living.
For example the "proper" data science position, you can't take a bootcamp for that, that requires masters/phd. You really need that research component for those positions. Good luck getting around that
His bonus was my salary last year
Mine too
Same lol
Same, lame
Feels su!cidal man
That should be a wake up call for you
Her "holy moley" was incredibly wholesome
@@QBQ98 nope
Where tf was that wholesome what?
@@SCVTTR enough with the energy drinks. You're not even coherent
@@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488😂😂😂
There's nothing wholesome. She's just surprised. Just cause she's pretty you're gonna exaggerate everything she does. So many simps in 2023.
Now he can afford to rent a 2
Bedroom in Denver 😂
more like a 4 sq ft closet
Idk, that might be pushing it. I think he might be able to split a studio apartment with only 4 roommates.
Denver isn't that expensive lol
@@17h127 😂
thhe dude earns 246000, which is in Denver Co 176.000 net, and by google a 2 bedroom appartment is 2700 in Denver which makes it 33000 to rent for a year, leaving him with 143.000 cash to spend a year, or 12.000 a month. that’s amazing. what am I missing?
I was in many of the same MSc classes as this guy. An extremely kind and well spoken gentleman. I'm so happy he is doing well!
What grad school did you attend?
@@wescraven2606 what is his name ?
What grad school was that ?
Why lie
I'm curious, why are you happy that someone is making a large amount of money? How does that bring you pleasure, that some person you don't know is being paid a lot of money? I don't mean you should be envious or hateful, I just mean it's an entirely neutral thing to me.
His advice on bootcamps was SOLID 🔥
Gay
@@Chris_t0Brokie
@@Chris_t0- what isn't gay to you, friend?
you@@sareykim
Why did I even go to uni
His salary is way out of normal range for Data Science. I manage a team of data scientist and engineers for a fortune 15 company and ours top out around $180k with bonus.
not at all out of range among my peers on us west coast if anything I know plenty of people in the industry with a much higher total comp
Hiring entry lvl ML engineer with internship experience and and with MLOps focus? I’ll pay you for a resume check and feedback. I can’t get a job…
@@ilyas8523 I'll do a resume check for free. I'm not hiring at the moment though I have a ton of friends in the industry so I come across openings frequently. are you active on linkedin?
Not for startups and big tech. This is normal for 5+ years in data science esp w ML. We just hired Sr. ML @ $250k base
He included equity which is likely a large portion
Remember this guy is talking about Total Compensation (TC). Most people in tech and start ups talk this way, which isn't quite accurate. He's including his stock package, which is usually a one-time sign-on gift, with a smaller yearly amount or a TBD/negotiated yearly amount. Bonuses are typically stock heavy or all stock and only come when start-ups have a ton of spare money, so not right now because money isn't free to borrow anymore.
Talking this way is more of a brag than an honest conversation. The guy probably still makes good money, maybe $150k-$180k in Denver with the rest likely being stock. If the company hits it big, he's set for life, will have millions in stock value. If the company tanks, he just had a well paying job.
You know this for sure or just assuming?. I have a 225k sign-on bonus over 2 years. Those are on-off, your stocks/RSU are paid just like your salary, so it's not bragging factoring it into your total compensation. You would be lieing if you didn't. And in most companies bonus is not one-off it may vary year to year but you get a minimum which is more than what most people make.
Maybe you are reffering to people working in private companies where the stocks may not be actual money. For publicly traded companies, stocks is as good as cash. It may go up or down.
@@notjohnAtall No I don't know this man personally but he said in the clip he's including stock. Factoring in RSU as if it's equivalent to your salary isn't being honest with yourself or others, though I don't think it's intentional or malicious.
The issue with including RSU into your salary is a few reasons:
- They aren't guaranteed yearly, they can change so do you correct your salary yearly based on the sign-on bonus ending after 2 years or with every bonus paid?
- They typically vest over time, so if you leave or are fired prematurely you lose anything that hasn't vested. Which is similar to "you don't get paid salary for the rest of the year" but RSUs don't vest daily so while you'll get paid until your last day, you won't get that next vest period which you may have already worked most of.
- Their value is not 1:1 with the dollar. Especially if your company is pre-IPO. The value of a share could be, and likely will be, dramatically more or less than the value by the time you're legally allowed to sell them. Quantity of shares is far more reasonable/fair to discuss.
I would always share my pay as "$x + x shares" because I felt it was much more comprehensible. Throwing a lump sum of $250k at someone is partially worthless information to them because they can't use that to help themselves negotiate. Especially since when my last company IPOd my TC would have been $1mil that year, but that's incredibly unfair because by the time I could legally sell my shares my TC had already dropped 5 fold. The stock value would have carried my TC number so heavily that it was nothing but a brag to share, and a brag that I couldn't even legally act upon to get that money.
@@tylers3863 Those are good points. I agree mostly. And that's why I said pre-IPO company I wouldn't even include the RSU as part of TC, it might be worth zero when you want to sell. It's also try you might lose part of RSU if it doesn't vest before you part way with the company. I agree a good way is to say here's my base plus this and that. But even that most people who are not in the space don't even understand the concept of RSU. Most careers don't even have that option, I guess that's why people just throw out that figure. I totally agree a follow up explanation will make it more comprehensible
He can sell the atock dumdum
@@AM-lz2jr spoken like a man who has never been offered a stock option
As someone working on a technology project that is fully focused on large volumes of data without any data scientist on the project, i can definitely see why its such a valuable skillset.
And after all taxes and expenses you basically make 100k a year saved up after 50 years maybe you might be able to buy a Bugatti.
@@Sakaaruser22 Still more than like 98% of the world.
Per chance😂,are you looking for someone to work under you😂as a Datascientist
@@melanp4698 that’s irrelevant to what I said.
“I don’t even wanna think about tax. That’s gonna be rough”
I’ve never felt more heard 😂😂
Figures…he lives in Colorado a red state and doesn’t like taxes with a high income….
@@HelloooThere Colroado is a Blue State.
But with 245k as a cushion plus bonuses/awards … eh he’ll be alright haha
@@neilmenon8943 well, I’ll be…
@@yousef2508 good then we can afford free luxuries thanks to you
I heard “potato scientist” and got excited. Why am I like this
lol 😂
Best comment 😂😂
You dare to dream. 🫡
Why are you incompetent you're asking I don't know your parents could probably answer that better than random strangers on the internet
@@YZ450f24 you sound like a damn good guy. Kudos to your parents my good sir
Data Scientists in Europe: Time to move to America!
:')
As an American, don’t do it🤣
the salary of a data scientist in Europe have a lot of difference?
@@TheGreatWasian_why
In France it’s 40k in Paris as starting and probably double that after 10/15 years
Before taxes of course
Well done man. I ain't your Dad but I'm proud of you son.
I might be his dad
Psychology + Statistics + data science + Machine learning = I know you more than you do know yourself
Yeah he’s gunna create the most malevolent ad tech ever seen lmao.
@@RePlayQ he seems wholesome so hopefully not lol
@@soultaker840data scientists are the people that build AI systems
its just a BA bud chill out. It covers the bare basics.
@@soultaker840yeah agree with the above comment - I'm currently doing a BA in psych and you learn **** fuck all about 'understanding human behaviour' lmao
Him: Higher
Tax man: (smiles)
He should pay lots of taxes
@@drmarkriekewhy? It should be millionaires and billionaires that should pay a lot of taxes
All i know is that’s a lot of hard math and coding and you will encounter problems that hasn’t been asked on forums multiple times
"Proof of competence" rather than "proof of education" is what this world needs!
Dude makes 4x my salary and i risk my life everyday installing glass 😅 I should have finished college. One good thing is i have zero debt
There's difference between producing a product through physical means and mental. Most of them can do manpower related works but only few can do complex math related problems. But that doesn't mean people with good physical attributes wont earn alot. They can if they can get very skilled at that, ex: sports, doesn't require a lot of complex problem solving but should be very skilled at their job by practing a lot.
you can go to school without having debt. it’s just ppl fall into the traps universities set. do research and find the loopholes
@@kingkobra_1945exactly, or sacrifice some of your young years saving up/finding ways to fund college expenses.
It’s okay 😂I went to college and got a masters and he still makes 4x what I make. I’m a special education teacher and work with kids with severe autism. Money is in big tech, pharma, all those types of companies.
Base plus equity. His equity is probably just as much as his base, so base is prob 120-130k range.
Wrong… Data science base is usually starting around $140-280k depending on location, as you progress in experience that base salary easily go to 460k
@@user-kd7kr1zu8x i am guessing you make that much..?lol
@@user-zo6iw2oz9c 380k + 75-150% performance bonus but I’m in NYC at a hedge fund. My boss makes 1.1 mil + bonus
@@user-kd7kr1zu8xwhere are you getting that from? Average in the US is around $110k
I feel bad as a senior data scientist of 8 years that I am only doing the entry level salary of a US data scientist
His advice was really good advice. Working in data (analyst not scientist, but somewhat similar with self learning) you really want to focus hard on projects. I learned myself by jumping straight into end to end projects step by step on TH-cam, because you learn by trial and error. Then I supplemented with actual skill learning online with sites like datacamp and datalemur. Truly make sure you supplement your self learning with actual projects that display your work and competency.
The guy is basically out 8 years out of college - 2 years of Masters and 6 years of experience. $250K incl. equity is not that hard to believe.
Omg 🤩 also a psychology major in data science…not making as much, but nice to know that type of salary is possible❤
Can you tell me how hard the math and statistics in this career are? I was pretty good at math in school but it's been many years since I left.
@@KP99 it's relatively hard but it's not too hard
you have to understand a little bit of calculus in order to understand statistics.
I'm a computer engineering graduate.
I know. I'm in Denver too this man seems amazing.
Money worship is so cringe 😬😂😂😂
If compactly supported integral transformations (e.g. via a kernel) make sense to you, you’re good to go
Mans gotta keep the person guessing instead of just giving an answer. I’m sure he’s a nice guy
He seems to be edging on the spectrum and not realizing how awkward it gets after take 3. Probably rips at his job.
@@bnumber8 my god you guys really are stretching it hard, eh? yt comment section armchair psychologists..
@@nikjojo have you ever been around and interacted with other humans?
@@bnumber8or he’s just an f boy who’s all about that humble brag when he keeps saying “a little higher” and people are like “ZOMG no way!!! Wow!!”
You’re not a licensed physician. You can’t just diagnose people as if it’s a fact. Stop that.
@@jasonvargas7564 it's TH-cam bro. Relax.
And that day, she found her true love.
Lol she's married to the person recording this video. They just had a wedding recently 😂
A little higher ehhhk
A little higher ehhhk
A little higher ehhhk
😂 cringe
240 aint shit buddy 😅
@@Wooooptywoopyou probably make 24
@@Wooooptywoop240 is 6 times higher than what the average american makes “buddy”
That dudes advice at the end is super valuable, using what you learn at a boot camp and turning that into interesting personal projects is a great way to get hiring managers to notice you.
I need the whole vid. The info he shared at the end was very useful.
It’s on our YT, long-form compilation.
@@SalaryTransparentStreet yes, I found it. Thanks again.
Yes it was 👌
@@AroundTheWayGirl88which one is it?
Pretty wild transition from psychology to data science! Happy for him
no it isnt lol.
there's a transversal branch in psychology that's called psychometrics and it's purely statistical. It's one of the most profitable psychology branches if not the most. So it's not even a transition at all.
Not really. Anything that’s statistics and data modeling heavy is a good bet. I know a girl who went into it from a linguistics bachelors because she used stats so much
@@hipsterbm5134yes tf it is
What on earth is “wild” when transitioning from psychology to “data science”? A person who has any clue about psychology would not make such a statement and a person who does not probably should not. No offense. Instead, an invitation (a bit brisk admittedly sorry) to learn more about psychology. It’s probably worth it. All the best and much love to everyone - Candygrabber ❤
I hope Buddy stays in love with his work and enjoys his career. He sounds so dangerously happy about how much money he's making its worrisome
My therapist pointing at a doll: “Did he touch you here?”
Me: “A little higher”
245K but your life is a soul crushing never ending hell of statistics
Hey probably just uses Scikit-learn all day and doesn't model anything from scratch.
I 100% believe him. Once he mentioned proof of competency and how bootcamps can help propel you to that. Not “they’ll help get you an interview or improve your skills”. Good man
This channel is liquid gold! subbing!
I like that he didn't bash boot camps. I did IBM's Data Sci boot camp and AWS online training. And, I make $238K plus applications royalties (about $11K per quarter). So....
IBM Data Science from Coursera?
@naufalsamrath Yep. I was working as a PM contractor and a recruiter told me to do it. I have a research (dev genetics) background so the math and research points I already had covered- and R programming.
How many hours do you put in per week
@Jormungadr I had to put in about 12hr per week, I scheduled the time in. I still practice on concepts that aren't immediately being used. I would recommend practicing Python and practice some more. Take days off.
Also, take a db cert class, learn about data lakes and ML.
I've worked in clinical research and the riding theme with science careers is that you are always at study.
@@ianlondon2888 what degree did you have prior to getting the bootcamps? Was it directly data science and machine learning?
Proof of competency.....❤
Woah, I'd love to imagine that this guy is making a massively positive contribution to society to justify such high rewards.
Seems like a cool dude, congrats on his succes💯
Data Sci with side of ML has avg started of $200k+ If you got 6 years of working experience that’s easily mid-high 200s
Average starting salary is 200k+?? There's gotta be one of the highest paying jobs.... Which universities are known for providing the best masters degree in data science if you don't mind me asking??
@@BEEShariqueHammadUniversity Malaya, Kuala Lumpur
@@BEEShariqueHammadYou don’t need a degree, just learn online. Some people without a degree make triple that.
Georgia Tech has a good masters program
Wish I could make that much money with this kind of job. Omg i got emotional😂. Actually money is not that thing. The thing is doing something that can make myself proud. If you make even more by doing something illegal will not make you proud like him. Respect for this man.
Him : 245k
Her: he’s so cute all of a sudden, he’d be a great father.
I am in the IT industry and I am surprised to see so many Psychology Degree holders doing IT work, and are very good at it.
This is an awesome idea! Salary transparency is so important!!
He’s so humble
You can tell when each time he said “little higher” he’s trying to be grounded and not come across as a douche. Instantly knew this was a good dude
@@Atlas92936no he’s bragging. He knows it’s not “a little higher” but wants to take her on a guessing game where the answer keeps being “a little higher” until he finally wows us with his gross pay because the gross is larger than take home and it makes him seem richer than he really is. This is the type of guy who knows how to impress others in his humblebrag speak. Well spoken and smart but has to prove he’s better than other people.
I make about $330k and it is extremely awkward answering this question to anyone that isn't already wealthy. I'm not telling my friends and family -- that are poor as shit and can barely pay rent -- that I make in a month what they do in a year.
bc he’s not lying 🤥.
because hes white
Yep! Data Scientist here 9 yrs. 🙌🏽
What degree would I need to get into this field?
@@KoolAidSquirtmath, cs, data science, statistics. Anything heavy with statistics and math for sure
@@coder-steph fuck I suck at statistics lol
? ok
@@KoolAidSquirtSQM also can work. SQM majors might just have a degree called Data Science lol
I am in IT for 25+ years and my skillset is broad and I worked in many industries and startups. The highest offer I received was $475k in 2012 and I had turned it down because I wanted to stay with my family. The money isn't everything and it is really what you desire in life. Before covid I was on a data science team at a startup. I wish to get back in a data science project at end of my contract this year. It is hard to make that kind if money theae days.
I got a degree in psychology. Top of my class. Got a master's degree related to data science. I am just keeping studying to get into software development because my country job market didn't absorb me as a data scientist. Don't let this guy fool you. He is in the right country, nothing else. In spain you only work in data science if you have a PhD in quantitative field or you are an engineer.
I'm convinced that if everyone that moved to Colorado in the last 15 years were to simple leave, the state would be a lot better.
Why?
If she was a Machine Learning model, she would probably have an R2 Score of 1001% since she just randomly found those Data Scientists on the street 😂🎉
18% of households in the Denver Metro Area (Denver and surrounding counties) make $200k or more.
Amazing to see young folk doing so well.
Don't go into any field because of the money. if you don't love it, you're going to hate it and no salary is worth that.
I second this motion. Been there, survived it. Thank God, God put me in a new position.
True this.
Terrible advice. You could retire in ten years with that salary and do whatever the fuck you LOVE for the rest of your life without having to slave away. Do what you must not what you love. This isn’t preschool.
@@AzulaAlwaysLies2461 Lot of assumptions there. You're already jaded and miserable. Money can't buy you true happiness.
@@AzulaAlwaysLies2461 many things can happen in 10 years that would change a person.
Alternatively
him: how much do you make?
Her: 50k…. A month
Him: doing what?
Her: onlyfans
I would if I could.
Dang. You blew up. Finally. Good work. I follow you on multiple platforms, all different names. I remember on Facebook when you had less than 1000 likes per video. Great work and thanks for keeping me entertained.
A.I is going to get an impact award there soon buddy. Enjoy it while it lasts
Holly molly that's a lot of money 👌
Only if you’re into it though, it’s very stressful and complex. You have to absolutely love it or you’ll sell your soul for the $245k.
@@hungergameshubthat’s not true
"I dont even want to think about taxes. Taxes are going to be rough" my guy id hope you can afford it
hey youre pretty ❤
Probably will be paying more in taxes than most people make in salary.
This was solid advice at the end
This dude smart as hell
I’m a business major, concentrating on data sci and analytics, I thought the job market capped at like 150k, but this is really promising. Not only that I also weirdly planned to move to Colorado once out of college to start a family.
Bro what, how did you think it called at 150k?
That's literally average salary in data science, anyone with descent experience in a field will always make more than average.
I once thought that to, but in many fields now they’re really starting to hand out some hefty salaries (as they should because inflation). Typically this is in STEM and the finance fields in big cities. It’s not uncommon to see a few decades of experience getting $300k or more. After 10 years a lot of these people already near $200k it seems. Personally I know of a few people 50/60 years old getting $400k salaries or more in NYC. At that point they’re ushered in as a president, or a lead, because of all that experience.
@@Ryan-cb1eithat seems low for data science tbh
I'm a data scientist..uhhh i don't even make half
Can you tell me how hard the math and statistics are in this career? I was pretty good at math in school but it's been many years.
Change employers now
@@KP99 not too bad...u do need to understand advanced statistical methods which are a vast, deep area of applied math so we are talking about hours of study of lots of topics to get comfortable with diff techniques and how to choose most appropriate way to test database relationships. arithmetic wise your doing zero math in the end because numpy and R and most other proprietary solutions already have most statistical functions coded.
Get into machine learning bruv
@@jaylev85no thanks, math sucks but that’s just because I sucked at it.
She actually didn't expect to fall in love with you and have kids 🥰🥰🌺❤️👏👏👏🏆
He said equity. Base could be $150 with $100k equity per year in options vested for 5 years
I'd like to hear another question. "How many hours a week do you work?"
Mom’s friend has a similar salary and he works 70 hour work weeks on average.. so I would assume around that 🤔 though I also know having a masters really shoots the salary up
Data scientist not pulling any long hours,it's 50-60hr/week average
It's 8 hrs per day. I'm a software developer and my sister is a data scientist. And I can say for sure that this is accurate
Depends on the type of company, unless it’s a start up it’s probably 40-50 hours per week.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582ain’t no way startup would pay 245k salary
Yeah like 40 grand that’s a whole income for a lot of people!
Then why don’t they work in data science too? You can’t help people when they decide to go into dead end jobs.
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 oh sure, we'll become data scientists. I'm sure that will work out.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 Exactly, and they don’t even require a degree or high school diploma at most companies for data scientist and software engineering roles.
Sound about right, most of my colleagues are around ~200k. Denvers tech hub is nothing to mess with
Works for a company that develops technology for the dystopian future. Great job 👏
A data scientist with stock based compensation in Denver, Colorado making more than 200k?
This dude works at Palantir.
Everyone they interview is apart of the top 1%. 😂😂😂
245k gross is not the top 1% in denver
@@badcholesterolI think they mean in the US… what they are driving home is that everyone is lying about their income…..
@@badcholesterolexactly. If you interview people walking around Denver, you’re going to interview mostly rich people who have the money to live in and enjoy denver
$450k is top 1% and your aggregate total net worth should be over $1M
Thats amazing great for him and to think it came from proofs and givens mixed with psychological adaptations of sociology
over here in Italy we get paid from 26k up to 34k in 90% of cases, in moldavia it is usually less than 6k per year, but we have also less expenses in europe, tech costs the same tho...
Tax office must be delighted to take nearly 50% back
nope, tax in the US is really low (espeically where he lives). effective tax rate for him will be 31.37%.
@@theenduranceyou mean not all income is taxed at the highest marginal rate? This is shocking.
I bet he drives a salvaged Audi.
Who cares his sister is hot
@@Beacher1085 se non bestemmio guarda
@@CarloClementi-qv9zg Is that napoletan?
He sounds pretty humble too :)
Aka data mining of personal information and creation of software with addictive physiological triggers for and of the masses.
It’s always the ballers that are not dressed too flashy or look “expensive.”
He’s a data scientist aka super nerd. Usually super nerd spend their money elsewhere and flashy clothes or cars aren’t those things. He probably has a sick home theatre set up and top of the line computers.
Meanwhile all the ballers that dress flashy... 👀
@sharinglungs3226 yeah and wealthier people are usually skilled. Nerds have a much higher chance of being skilled, so the point that was originally made stands true?
@@hobosnake1the point is that people spend wealth in different ways.
@@sharinglungs3226"super nerd"? Cringe. Can't really Ball with 250k
I remember getting my first big bonus and I knew it would be taxed but didn't know it would be 42%
Vote for lower taxes.
There, now you're a republican.
@@HomelessOnlinenah they're even more incompetent than the Democrats somehow and their last big tax cut bill under Trump 86% of the benefits went to the top 1% over a ten year stretch so again hell no
Him: About 245
Her: Locks eye contact and gets on her knees
Tacky conversation.
From what I understand: 245k is not what he brings home every year. If you get 70k in equality then that's a one time thing, not a yearly occurrence (but 70k might be paid out in 2-4 years). If you get equality in stocks, then once the stocks are vested you usually don't get more stocks, meaning 70k in stocks is also a one time thing. Base salary is the only constant in the total compensation, which is a lot less than 245k especially after tax. So his total compensation may be: base salary: 140k, stocks: 70k, sign on bonus 35k. 140k is what you'll bring home (before tax) after all your stocks are vested and all sign on bonus is given.
No. He works at google. You are granted a total amount of shares that spans across 4 years. 70k is what he receives at the end of the year and that is recurring and usually increases the closer you get to the 4th year of fully vesting your total equity package. So that total amount isn’t 70k, it’s likely 70k * 4= 280k.
@@horologie yep, and then you get refreshers each year that stack for equity. so at year 4 you are vesting 4 grants, huge pay day. btw your user name, into watches?
His bonus= my salary
get a new job
Wow, he is lucky as hell! Full of himself too.
I think he is lying
Cool dude with no ego. Happy to start what he does. Nice
That's insane. I'm a nurse and I only make 44K
Yeah overpaid
Move to california and watch nurses to riches
nurses in the bay can get 200k
Legend has it that he's still telling her a little higher.
So many people are way overpaid
And thus many more are underpaid
I'll call bullshit. For a 6 year DS he probably at $180K base on he high end, depending on company. He said equity, so he's at a startup and may be a co-founder, so that may have something to do with it.
Dude makes 245k a year walking down (16th) street next to homeless addicts.
Edit: street number
That’s 16th street actually and yes they are definitely abundant there too
Yup that’s Colorado now
@@youdontknow7190every city
Welcome to Denver - but yeah that is typically people making 200k and up next to people on the 16th st mall that would be lucky to make 5k a year.
@@dwight_s boulder is just as bad if not worse. Upper middle class women walking with their babies in the stroller in the park at 11th and walnut besides crowds of circles of homeless shooting and smoking heroine, crystal and fentanyl blowing the shit down wind towards the kids. Crazies harassing you there by the river and everyone there just lives with it, letting it be okay.
“I don’t even wanna think about Tex dot that’s gonna be rough.”
“Germans start crying.”
MACHINE LEARNING IS KILLERRRRRRR, ARRGGG... - a frontend dev.
We need more people like him not TH-camrs actual intelligence
As a native Coloradan there are many serial cappers here.
People lie and a lot of people lie on these videos. A big trend in tech currently is also to list TOTAL compensation. Salary, benefits, 401k match, whatever. Good on anyone making that amount of scratch, but remember there is no such thing as a free lunch. If they're going to pay you a quarter of a million dollars a year, you're going to WORK.
Who wouldn’t expect to work for that kind of salary? Don’t you realize why people are paid higher amount of money? It’s usually because they have a particular set of skills that sets them apart from most and therefore they’re compensated to perform them and do it well. And no, most tech workers don’t lie about their salary. They usually tell you the base salary and then the equity. Which is known as total compensation. Nobody that I’ve ever seen in tech ever includes their 401k or benefits as income. You’re likely just very jealous and broke and have to make up theories like this to justify why you’ll never make that kind of money.
$245k after taxes is like $167k. Still very good!
Excellent advise, hi said "did personal project" besause you proof your competesion...
Bro data scientist in what field!!!!
Exactly!
He literally said in tech
He's cute, has a nice voice, ans is making a bunch of money. He's like a dream boyfriend
In Denver and his age and education… that’s impressive indeed!!
A masters can definitely help, but nowadays there are bachelors degrees, that I have a focus in AI which includes machine learning. I imagine he got his degree before any of these newer degrees were available as they all only became available around 2021/2022.
All these haters in the comments 😅 time to clock in your shift at Wendy’s!
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