regarding game 5, Forti said." I feel Happy lost some confidence with his Lich-start and I know Happy was not familiar with DL-start against HUM. So I chose a simple and unusual tactic to beat Happy, one base mortar rush."
In that last fame I felt happy could have done so much more damage with the DL to the peasents. What if you get mana burnt 2 times you will kill a lot of peasents.
@@4bafiafzil999 Does Happy has the strongest hero combo in the game with lich+DK? Yes. Does statues provide endless mana and hp regen? Yes. Does Happy has Infinite lumber due to ghouls and no need to get shredder? Yes.
@@4bafiafzil999I don't even mention that disrupting your opponent 's economy in every way you can is a default way of playing in any RTS game. How many times Happy was in Fortitude' s base killing his workers, while his army was far away to defend
Se ha vuelto su verdadera BESTIA NEGRA estos últimos meses, le ha sacado ya varios enfrentamientos y sobre todo finales. La que le ganó en el evento organizado por casters rusos ( lo hicieron en Dubai por el problema que tienen, pero fue un evento 100% ruso) fue una locura.
Would have lost the air battle anyway since DL wouldn't have had reached level 3 in time. Even lvl2 swarm is not that powerful. Gyros with frag cannons just shred gargs. Anyway, he faked gargs just to make Forti spend time and money on gyros while he went fiends. Even the commentatos said as much. Pay more attention next time.
It pains me a lot to say this. but I really wish that Lyn loses his upcoming series Vs Forti so that we can get a different champion. Lyn(or any other Orc player) has *no* chance Vs Happy. Happy is probably counting on Lyn sending Forti to the lower bracket. Because let's face it: Happy is coming back. If Lyn defeats Forti now and then, the Grandfinal will probably mean Lyn Vs Happy and Lyn statisitcally has less than 30% chance of winning. Lyn getting beaten tomorrow is our best chace of having a different champion.
Last patch, statistically OvU in GM is favored in orc and with recent patch where orc get their HH nerf reverted back with cheaper, faster SW timing and cheaper T2 & T3 atk/def upgrade while UD getting none of useful buffs but core nerfs, theoretically OvU will be skewed even more as Orc would be stronger than previous patch where Orc already dominated against UD It's just that Lyn not in his good shape these few previous matches
@@4bafiafzil999 I have replied to this only 1,459,180,629,527 times so far. GM on Wc3 Champion means an MMR of 2,200 or around top 0.6% player. We are talking about World Championship level which is MMR 2,500 or top 0.1% player. And both Lyn and Happy are above 2.600 MMR which is top 0.03% top. Lyn reached MMR 2,670 which is theoretically top 0.005%. I mean "theoretical" because only 3 players in history have excedded MMR 2,600(Lyn, Happy and Kaho), and only 2 have exceeded 2,650. So because the sample is so small, there is no way of knowing . The gap in MMR between top #5 ranked players and your average Grandmaster is greater than that between a Grandmaster and a Master. It is actually equivalent to that of a Grandmaster and an Adept(1,900 MMR). It's a *whole* other level. These players are not just the best in the World, but the best of *all* times. Playeers at 2,650+ MMR would have a 95% win rate Vs your average 2,200-2,300 MMR Grandmaster. That is, your average Grandmaster would need to play 20 games Vs Lyn or Happy to have a 50% chance of winning just 1 game. Think about that. You are basically comparing a 2,400 ELO chess Grandmaster to prime bobby Fischer or Kasparov. It's not even comparable. So Grandmaster mathmaking results between races has *zero* relevance here, just like Adept race matmchmaking reults have zero relevance to determine balance for Grandmaster ranked players. Do you know what is the second player with the highest win rate Vs Lyn and FoCus besides Happy over the past 2 years? 120/ You know the other Undead player, who has the highest number of TP League and TeD Cup wins besides Happy? What does that tell you? Is it only a coincidence that the guy with the highest win rate Vs Lyn is another Undead player? Fun fact: Fortitude has MMR of "only" 2,520, but defeats Happy who has MMR of 2,760. Riddle me that? Face it: the matchups of Orc Vs Undead is imbalanced favoring Undead, and the matchup pf Human Vs Undead is imbalanced favoring Human.
This is where Infi was so good. If you learn to play multiply races you can get those favorable matchups. But you are right as it stands Forti can beat Happy but Orc's still own Human.
WOuld be cool to see happy go TedFiends :) think its strong vs all forti styles myb Fiend/banshee/wagon u can affort on 1 base if u micro good in game and dont lose much
Really good replay but why is all the text in some Asian languages? I’m new and I would like to know exactly what there building and it’s a little hard for me to recognize things by there icon
It's a video feed provided by the Chinese organizers. We were ingame ourselves, hence we can't influence the ingame language in that specific game / tournament
Вообще бесит дарка вместо дредлорда когда очевидны верты и танки! Непонятное, явно плохое решение! Просто он привык к дарке, часто её берет уже по привычке.
@@4bafiafzil999Noob, he was faking gargs just to make forty waste time and resources on useless mass gyros. He meant to go fiends from the start. Hence the dark ranger to counter knights. Have you even watched the stream?
Mass gryphons, mass tanks, mass knights, mass riffles, mass gyros, mass dragon hawks, mass breakers. Work harder blizzard, there are still some units left hum cannot mass
@@itachi-bz5je A lot. Necromancer got buffed and Disase Cloud got buffed. Statue and destroyer have 50 less hp and desto orb dmg is down to 15 from 20. Or of corruption down to minus 4 armor from 5. Statue mana restores down to 2 from 3 VERY big nerf. The statue restores every 1.5 seconds to max 6 units during 150 seconds of passive time which is 100 times max 600 less mana due to nerf. Lich dark ritual got nerfed increased CD(harder to deny) and less mana restored. Basically, the UD has fewer spells to use in a match. All Movement speeds including DKs arua got nerfed 20% at level 3 down from 30%. This benefits HU and NE as they have no MS auras. DK Ulti got buffed...... Dreadlord and Cryptlord got buffed but they were useless before now they are viable. Overall UD got much much more nerfs HU got much much more buffs since 1.26. Thankfully human tank got nerfed from 40exp(footman) to 80exp(knight) and from 3 food to 4 food. Otherwise, you could almost always tank spam UD as they are the weakest race against them.
Same I liked his commentary and he’s also a very good human player. Also give him a break it takes time to become good at casting- no need to be so mean, you get to watch this for free.
Take it as a compliment regarding Happys standing in the scene. Beating that guy in a BO5 is THE achievment that any professional wc3 player can hope for right now. Forti has done it several times now. Those series are always great.
Unreal Unreal - Someone won a game vs Happy once a 5 years. Unreal Unreal. I agree that's really Unreal how weak you should be to win vs Happy so rare. Loosers
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Forti vs Happy. Currently the best Match professional warcraft offers
Idk man, playing and losing against mass tanks through buildings elimination is quite crappy at professional level
By far my favorite series. So dynamic
The new Barcelona vs Real Madrid
@@am1d Barcelona vs Real Madrid is the Forti vs Happy of football
Completely agree. Can't avoid watching the whole series lol.
Enjoying Leon as a co-caster!! Great games
What a match again by these 2. Forti giving Happy a taste of his own medicine by reverse sweeping him after a lackluster start to the match :D
regarding game 5, Forti said." I feel Happy lost some confidence with his Lich-start and I know Happy was not familiar with DL-start against HUM. So I chose a simple and unusual tactic to beat Happy, one base mortar rush."
In that last fame I felt happy could have done so much more damage with the DL to the peasents. What if you get mana burnt 2 times you will kill a lot of peasents.
Instant classic series. GG forti and Happy, thanks for giving us such great entertainment!
If only if it's not mass tanks tho
I don't think WC3 has been this entertaining in, say, 10 years at least.
Forti made a checkmate last match, nothing to do against a lot of pressure, when you can build near the opponent base without loses is gg.
Yeah 1 base all-in against 2 expo was correct move and sealed the win there
Leon is a great Co-Caster who gives good insights for human playstyle.
Spoiler
The King of reverse sweeps got reverse swept. Fortitude does to Happy what Happy does to all other players
But does happy eco lame, mass tanks and avoid direct fight to win the match? No
@@4bafiafzil999 Does Happy has the strongest hero combo in the game with lich+DK? Yes. Does statues provide endless mana and hp regen? Yes. Does Happy has Infinite lumber due to ghouls and no need to get shredder? Yes.
@@4bafiafzil999I don't even mention that disrupting your opponent 's economy in every way you can is a default way of playing in any RTS game. How many times Happy was in Fortitude' s base killing his workers, while his army was far away to defend
@@4bafiafzil999If you don't like it just go/play total war or something
Really loving Leon as co-caster. I would like to see his mic turned up just a little bit though.
Forti makes it so interesting to watch. Usually it is predictable when it comes to Happy.
Who is co-caster? I really loved the interaction between the two of you and his commenting of the match!
Leon german human player.
58:30 wow
1:33:00 Happy hadn't even started teching to T2 at that time.
A battle of champions
Game 3 was off the hook I had zero idea who was going to win
Neo: 49:00 this is where the turnaround starts
Поздравления Forti! Дима болеем за тебя всегда!
Great games! Was fun to watch. Hard to tell who would win. Congrats to the winner!
57:50 Confirmation that Forti likes extreme sports (to feel that adrenaline) 😎... 😂
2 base vs 1 base . It's insane !!! Crazy game
the overlay is next level, truly insane work, better than aoe, starcraft or compareable games. Great work!
Wtf last Happy Game??? 2 Expo, More Gold, No rebuild army, No cancel all building, No attack all time, WTF??????????
Happy got outclassed!
Outclassed by 0 digit iq eco laming zepp drop and mass tanks kek
@@4bafiafzil999 AAAND rifle priests.
@@4bafiafzil999 your ass is burning isn't it 😂?
@@4bafiafzil999I'd like to see you play Forty then. See how you fare. Too bad it won't happen since pros don't have the time to play scrubs like you.
Human 1 base could win Undead, I am happy with life now, a huge part of me is completed 😆
Wow, what a series!
57:56 Neo: Forti playing with fire!
No! Forti playing with ICE!
How come happy don't try one base t2 rush to counter human expo? Fast 2 hero then wagon stat should take out human expo?
Excellent series again
What a match ,too good , Warcraft at it's best ❤
48:50 Neo literally translating *einerseits - andererseits* hahahaha
great games and casterteam! :)
Wow, those last 2 matches were just straight up one-sided rape... Amazing games!
Such a banger of a match!
Gran remontada del score de Forty... en estos momentos es el único jugador que le da batalla a Happy que es el jugador mas fuerte de w3
Se ha vuelto su verdadera BESTIA NEGRA estos últimos meses, le ha sacado ya varios enfrentamientos y sobre todo finales. La que le ganó en el evento organizado por casters rusos ( lo hicieron en Dubai por el problema que tienen, pero fue un evento 100% ruso) fue una locura.
Is it not possible to break the sleep by ordering a friendly unit to attack the slept unit/hero?
Of course it is, but on top of everything else that's happening it can be difficult at times
there is 2 sec invul after cast
@@horderob2025 Thx for that information. That definately makes it stronger than if you could break it fast.
Dark ranger in game 3 cost the series for happy, he's likely killing himself by the end
DL should be the way
Would have lost the air battle anyway since DL wouldn't have had reached level 3 in time. Even lvl2 swarm is not that powerful. Gyros with frag cannons just shred gargs.
Anyway, he faked gargs just to make Forti spend time and money on gyros while he went fiends. Even the commentatos said as much. Pay more attention next time.
1:28:50 “go for the hunted” lol, you keep saying “hunted” it’s “haunted”, not “hunted”
Epic games! GG WP :D
Game 3 instead of 3 new tanks would 3 gryphon be better. Good damage vs buildings but can fight and avoid better
I'm never gonna be one of those "Imba" people. But damn does Happy's Dreadlord make me want to start lol!
It pains me a lot to say this. but I really wish that Lyn loses his upcoming series Vs Forti so that we can get a different champion. Lyn(or any other Orc player) has *no* chance Vs Happy. Happy is probably counting on Lyn sending Forti to the lower bracket. Because let's face it: Happy is coming back. If Lyn defeats Forti now and then, the Grandfinal will probably mean Lyn Vs Happy and Lyn statisitcally has less than 30% chance of winning. Lyn getting beaten tomorrow is our best chace of having a different champion.
Last patch, statistically OvU in GM is favored in orc and with recent patch where orc get their HH nerf reverted back with cheaper, faster SW timing and cheaper T2 & T3 atk/def upgrade while UD getting none of useful buffs but core nerfs, theoretically OvU will be skewed even more as Orc would be stronger than previous patch where Orc already dominated against UD
It's just that Lyn not in his good shape these few previous matches
@@4bafiafzil999 I have replied to this only 1,459,180,629,527 times so far. GM on Wc3 Champion means an MMR of 2,200 or around top 0.6% player. We are talking about World Championship level which is MMR 2,500 or top 0.1% player. And both Lyn and Happy are above 2.600 MMR which is top 0.03% top. Lyn reached MMR 2,670 which is theoretically top 0.005%. I mean "theoretical" because only 3 players in history have excedded MMR 2,600(Lyn, Happy and Kaho), and only 2 have exceeded 2,650. So because the sample is so small, there is no way of knowing .
The gap in MMR between top #5 ranked players and your average Grandmaster is greater than that between a Grandmaster and a Master. It is actually equivalent to that of a Grandmaster and an Adept(1,900 MMR). It's a *whole* other level. These players are not just the best in the World, but the best of *all* times. Playeers at 2,650+ MMR would have a 95% win rate Vs your average 2,200-2,300 MMR Grandmaster. That is, your average Grandmaster would need to play 20 games Vs Lyn or Happy to have a 50% chance of winning just 1 game. Think about that. You are basically comparing a 2,400 ELO chess Grandmaster to prime bobby Fischer or Kasparov. It's not even comparable.
So Grandmaster mathmaking results between races has *zero* relevance here, just like Adept race matmchmaking reults have zero relevance to determine balance for Grandmaster ranked players.
Do you know what is the second player with the highest win rate Vs Lyn and FoCus besides Happy over the past 2 years? 120/ You know the other Undead player, who has the highest number of TP League and TeD Cup wins besides Happy? What does that tell you? Is it only a coincidence that the guy with the highest win rate Vs Lyn is another Undead player?
Fun fact: Fortitude has MMR of "only" 2,520, but defeats Happy who has MMR of 2,760. Riddle me that?
Face it: the matchups of Orc Vs Undead is imbalanced favoring Undead, and the matchup pf Human Vs Undead is imbalanced favoring Human.
This is where Infi was so good. If you learn to play multiply races you can get those favorable matchups. But you are right as it stands Forti can beat Happy but Orc's still own Human.
WOuld be cool to see happy go TedFiends :) think its strong vs all forti styles myb Fiend/banshee/wagon u can affort on 1 base if u micro good in game and dont lose much
Pode chorar Happy, MK é seu nêmeses.
Awesome !
Really good replay but why is all the text in some Asian languages? I’m new and I would like to know exactly what there building and it’s a little hard for me to recognize things by there icon
It's a video feed provided by the Chinese organizers. We were ingame ourselves, hence we can't influence the ingame language in that specific game / tournament
Dang Happy was destroying it those starting games. Great series back and forth tho.
WOW WOW WOW!!!! FORTI!!!
First game was insaneo
Последнее время Фортитюд единственный, кто даёт хорошую конкуренцию Императору
Начало лучшее... Наверное зря рэйнджерку брал., надо было вампиром продолжать. Все равно хапааач 👍👍👍
Dreadlord is mandatory nowadays against HU due to mass gyro & tanks
Вообще бесит дарка вместо дредлорда когда очевидны верты и танки! Непонятное, явно плохое решение! Просто он привык к дарке, часто её берет уже по привычке.
@@4bafiafzil999Noob, he was faking gargs just to make forty waste time and resources on useless mass gyros. He meant to go fiends from the start. Hence the dark ranger to counter knights. Have you even watched the stream?
the fact that I'm a balding, big-nosed freak is okay, but the fact that Happy is losing is really bad
what a insance reverse
Looked like Happy doesnt know what to play on CH, maybe expected it would end sooner
Ironic that he would call himself Happy
Please introduce when you have a guest commentator
Holy shit, it's a GG
GG, Forti the Human Master
why is his nick happy if his face is always depressed?
Его ник делает баланс в его внутреннем мире 😂
9.26 biggest lol moment
Maaan happy idk why he didn't went dreadlord im game 3...human always win by lame tanks.. however last game well played by fortitude... gg
Хапач, всë равно красава!
showmatch
is human OP these days?
Bruh that last game...
unbelievable only forti can make happy look like a noob
Happy vs NotHappy at All
Brutal
THIS WAS SICK!
Woooooow!
Mass gryphons, mass tanks, mass knights, mass riffles, mass gyros, mass dragon hawks, mass breakers.
Work harder blizzard, there are still some units left hum cannot mass
you forgot mass militia, towers and mass footies.
I don't mind HU massing units but to hell mass tanks
wow forti
Grubby vs Happy pls
what?
Grubby win vs happy
Fortigod 🤩
Infi style with no blizzard though
Sec Hero pala 3rd mk vs ud ftw
gREAT GAME
Gg ud vs hu
This caster neo please
GG
2nd Game need Archmage Pala mk
Happyyy
More of Leon's girlfriend please! 😋😉
😮😮😮😮
Human tank-gyro meta is so boring
once again doofus saying exactly what doesn't happen. the worst commentator of all time. and so annoying iv'e to listen without sound.
Пиздец
wc3 competition has become farce. They just buff one race to beyond reasonable levels.
Just to punish one player, what a bad tradeoff
@@4bafiafzil999 Used to be moon on top then they nerfed ne to oblivion and buffed UD. then recently UD got nerfed and now hu is on top.
@@alexch3618 when did they nerf ud?
@@itachi-bz5je A lot.
Necromancer got buffed and Disase Cloud got buffed.
Statue and destroyer have 50 less hp and desto orb dmg is down to 15 from 20.
Or of corruption down to minus 4 armor from 5.
Statue mana restores down to 2 from 3 VERY big nerf.
The statue restores every 1.5 seconds to max 6 units during 150 seconds of passive time which is 100 times max 600 less mana due to nerf.
Lich dark ritual got nerfed increased CD(harder to deny) and less mana restored.
Basically, the UD has fewer spells to use in a match.
All Movement speeds including DKs arua got nerfed 20% at level 3 down from 30%. This benefits HU and NE as they have no MS auras.
DK Ulti got buffed......
Dreadlord and Cryptlord got buffed but they were useless before now they are viable.
Overall UD got much much more nerfs HU got much much more buffs since 1.26.
Thankfully human tank got nerfed from 40exp(footman) to 80exp(knight) and from 3 food to 4 food.
Otherwise, you could almost always tank spam UD as they are the weakest race against them.
@@TheSuperColonel ohh didnt reaize it was this strong nerfs.
:)
T T
please no more LEON as commentary PLEASE !!!!
I thought he provided some valuable insights as a strong player
Same I liked his commentary and he’s also a very good human player. Also give him a break it takes time to become good at casting- no need to be so mean, you get to watch this for free.
I don’t like Forti behavior by the end of the game so unprofessional
You're stupid? Can't he be happy?
The guy reverse swept HAPPY. He's not allowed to be ecstatic?
Forti basically has a lot of insecuritys because of Happy. Don't be so hard on him ;)
Take it as a compliment regarding Happys standing in the scene. Beating that guy in a BO5 is THE achievment that any professional wc3 player can hope for right now. Forti has done it several times now. Those series are always great.
what do you want him to do, shake happy's hand behind a computer screen?
Think neo and leon forgot how the game works
Unreal Unreal - Someone won a game vs Happy once a 5 years. Unreal Unreal. I agree that's really Unreal how weak you should be to win vs Happy so rare. Loosers