Rapid Reaction: OU falls... but is there hope with Hawkins?
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Where’s the creative mind offensively? Who runs a play on 6in line with QB 4 yards deep? There is zero offensive identity toooo bad this elite defense will be wasted
We're the new Iowa!
Agree! I said that 2 weeks ago.
We have the 2000 defense and the 1998 offense. Somebody just shoot me now!!!!!! I'm exhausted from putting faith in our scrub ass coaching staff, particularly on offense!!! DONE
Why is anyone surprised? The first three games told you the entire story how this game would go. BV has some tuff decisions to make. There are coaches on this staff that are not doing their jobs.
BV seemed pissed in his press conference! If it’s a bad season I don’t think he will hesitate this off season.
They may be doing their jobs, but they are not doing a competent job
Problem is..(if) it is a bad season..how many of the commits hang on..Will Texas come and offer Fasusi the bag? Texas is likely going to go 12-0...They could end up with the #1 class. Are we looking at a really bad loss in Dallas due to our oline? How far behind will tis program go if we run off a string of losses? Will Jayden O'Neal stay committed?
The OC needs to be fired at the end of this season . Venables needs to own and FIX this mess for next season!
Bill Bedenbaugh and Joe John Finley are two that come to mind. Neither can recruit and most of all their player development has been so bad that they have to constantly go to the portal to bring in players.
JACKSON ARNOLD LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE EXPECTED THAT IS WHAT HE HAS SHOWN US EVERY GAME SO FAR
Jackson Arnold is a fraud
Tennessee defense can make you look like that
@@bige5848he’s looked like that every single game he’s started not just Tennessee, try to keep up
Yuppp
@@bige5848ehhhh
Maybe run the ball outside the box instead of right up the middle man
Right into the back of an O line man. Taylor is the only one that can find a hole.
Jesus especially against UT, look at those fatass D-Linemen pancaking our O-line. Never stood a chance.
Seth Littrell sucks and Arnold is a major bust. Bonehead turnovers cost OU this game.
@@imperialfist93 Pure cope… TN defense beat the brakes off OU and Heupel babied OU with continuous conservative play calling. AND THANKS FOR WETTING YOUR FIELD DOWN… CHEATERS! We won’t forget this.
Jackson Arnold better not get another snap at OU. That lateral turnover off the RPO that should have been a run.
NOT ONE!!!!!! Completely agree
The play call on the safety makes me think, Seth is completely incompetent at this level. We haven’t ran the ball between the tackles all year and in that scenario, he calls that play? He was a lazy hire and it’s showing.
Fire Seth yesterday
Yep.
You're FIRED !
Last freakin' week!!! That guy is hot GARBAGE
😂
Almost Every Coach on the Offensive Side of The Ball should be on The Hot Seat! BV better Take The Bulls by The Horns and Act Like A Boss! Defense is great, well coached....Head Coach has major decisions to make, he needs to let them know They Are Definitely Expendable 😅😅😅 BOOMER SOONER
44-44 Fired from North Texas and we want him to be a championship level coach... Someone needs to just tell Brent no more buddy hires. Also having a Fullback be the QB coach makes no sense Brent needs to answer for this shit? Tf are you 3 doing ask him?
@johnjersey7844 exactly my thoughts. ! Having a fullback call the air raid offense ? Lol it just don't add up !!!
@johnjersey7844 It just goes to show that BV is a better Defensive Coordinator than Head Coach. This is year three and every year has been a let down. If they continue to stink it up this year, his recruiting classes offensively will get progressively worse. Especially at the QB position. He better get a competent QB coach & OC fast or OU football is headed to the duldrums.
@@touchdownparlay Yep, have to question why he wasn’t hired at other schools before us? Recruiting hasn’t been very good for offense. Need to get Cale Gundy back at all cost. We need a big time offensive recruiter and Demarco ain’t cutting it and whoever is getting the offensive talent!
im more shocked we Dont have a running game with anything other then let either QB run the ball . Demarco and BB have serious issues
I blame it on the offensive line and offensive line coaches more than the running backs or running back coaches
Why are yall surprised? Did you all think that magically not being able to block anyone and not being able to run the ball was gonna change? Hell no. Now you're probably gonna say Hawkins is gonna solve all that. He's a true freshman in the SEC. Good luck with that. And Coach JH took his foot off the gas, all those "what would have happened had Hawkins started?" The answer to that is Coach JH would have scored more points.
JA has talent but is not ready mentally. A good coach can fix that. JA doesn't have a good offensive coach to do that.
That’s true. He needs to transfer. To USC.
You aren’t wrong. Seth Littrell is in way over his head and hasn’t developed him at all. That being said, I hope he doesn’t fck up Hawkins too.
Wrong. The kid was overhyped. go back and look at his first start. Had 3 turnovers in the Alamo bowl. He is who we have seen him to be. A below average overrated QB. Give me that Hawkins kid. He's a baller and he has some swagger. I'll take my lumps with Hawkins the rest of the year because atleast I know the kid is a dawg ever since high school. Arnold meanwhile was always the best because of the stacked program he played at in Denton
Damn sure doesn't have it between the ears but please tell me what talent you are referring to?? Where???? I've seen NONE of this "talent" that he has. Idk why ppl keep saying he's talented, based on fucking what exactly?????
@@Mikey-cl1rtYES!!!! Hawkins WANTS to win and as you said is clearly a dog!!! Arnold is just a complete joke. I say fire Seth (I realize we don't have a bunch of other options right now, but idgaf) and roll with hawkins the rest of the season. If he was to get hurt then insert Casey Thompson because Jackson freaking arnold has no business ever seeing the field again.
Can we please stop calling them kids? They are professionals. JA is making over $1M a year. With the money comes expectations.
Definitely not professionals lol
Are u the guy who retired from making OU highlight videos?
@@bigdoggjones4977not many highlights anymore, he had too
@@bigdoggjones4977 Si the honorable, prestigious, magnificent, Sooner Highlight Video Legend HolaKyle.
No, they are 18-21/22 yo kids, just like they were since they’ve been playing football.
High schoolers here in Florida are getting paid? How does that make them professionals?
Money doesn’t buy you experience or make you a professional… Money doesn’t build character, it reveals character.
Thanks to Heupels constant run plays, OU defense played well. America saw Tennessee take the foot off the gas and Heupel baby OU.
Or maybe it was because Tennessee fumbled twice in the first half when they were trying to be aggressive on offense? OU's defense was able to get a decent amount of pressure on Tennessee's QB in the first half, which is what caused those fumbles. No one takes their foot off the gas with a 16-point lead and a whole half left to play, especially someone like Heupel who loves to run up the score. 16-point leads are nothing in modern football. Tennessee just didn't want to risk anymore turnovers, so they played it safe. OU's offense was such a disaster that it didn't matter.
You are correct
@@slimreaper9205 Exactly...
No he had too or we would have kept making Nico turn the ball over.
He didn’t take no damn foot off. He could not score.
I predicted JA playing like that. I've said from the very beginning that MH was a better QB, and people laughed at me.
They laughed at me too brotha. Now they know. And Gabe Ikard was right too
Yeah the HOF channel said I was trolling and didn't know football! Told everyone JA ain't the DUDE. I love and hate being right
Looks like my bold pre season prediction is spot on
Arnold would be replaced before Texas and Seth after the Texas game
Jackson Arnold signed up to play big boy football. If he can't deliver, that's on him. Yes I feel bad for him, but he knew what he was signing up for. If he didn't want pressure or high expectations, he should've signed with North Texas or LA Tech. Get better. Its harsh I know, but it is what it is.
Athletes are getting paid big money now. I don't want to hear poor kid.
Seth ain't it
As a Tennessee Fan I agree with you on your defense. Because when our tackle got hurt we played conservative only to protect Nico. If we went on to running up the score you would have found a way to him. You Sooners have a difficult set of games coming up. And you have shown who Oklahoma is this year. We hope all your players who received injuries are quickly back on the field. Your defense will be the key for you all to pull your season into the playoffs. Good coaching can do that.
Good luck to you guys. Pulling for you.........BOOMER!
The final chapter isn't written but Jackson Arnold is looking like a bust - big arm that wows the recruiting pundits, but he's shown poor accuracy and no touch - everything is a bullet. And holy deer in the headlights!
Jackson Arnold is Davis Beville 2.0 Major bust making a million in NIL.
He’s a massive bust. Rhett Bomar 2.0
I think we needed this loss to find our quarterback and to expose some things that need to be worked on. Our season is far from over if our offense can improve than the sky is the limit for this team.
I agree!
No, the sky is not the limit for this team. Stop being so pie in the sky. This is the SEC. We will never be as deep as we were. We are recruiting against the big boys. We must be realistic. Our coaching is limited. Our offense is extremely limited. We asked for this to earn SEC tv contract money. Get used to it.
@@galveston We’ve always recruited against the SEC! We have the talent if we can get the offense to be serviceable the sky is most definitely the limit.
THANKS GUYS FOR NOT SAYING ARNOLD SUCKED LIKE A DIDDY AFTER PARTY
Can somebody explain to me when is a 4th and 1 why the hell are we in shotgun 5 yd back instead of the QB getting under the center.🤔🤦
Because that's what teams do now. Makes zero sense but that's what they do.
Isn’t Xavier Robinson like 230+ lbs? I know he’s a true freshman, but maybe get Hawkins under center, line up in the I formation, let Robinson just use that size and strength to try to power it in.
Yes he is. He needs to play some. We can't leave talent on the bench at this point.h@@soonerborn7603
Was 22-9. Don’t count that trash time td.😂😂😂
Oklahoma has a QB that can't hit 5 yard dump offs. I don't care how good your OL is, with a QB like Jackson, you aren't winning anything substantial.
Problem is that Tennessee was content to just run clock in the 2nd half & went conservative bc how inept OU's offense was and Heupel said as much during his post game conference.
OMG it’s like those early scrimmage notes were a tell tale sign of what was to be expected. We were told this whole offseason by you guys that Litrell and Coach B would get the offense to GEL together because they worked at Arizona that one time lol How does a 5 ⭐️ QB and former Gatorade player of the year look like ass all of sudden at Oklahoma?? Seth hasn’t ever coached QBs. We don’t have a real QB coach. Also talking about this abysmal OL… people have told y’all this is exactly what would happen if you continue to grab portal guys for starters. You get afterbirth protecting your QB. We can’t wait for them to “gel” in the SEC. We’re not going against the kstats or baylors anymore. I’m so glad you guys are just now realizing that, can’t believe it took you this long 🤦♂️ We need continuity and veteran leadership on the OL. How do you do that?! High School recruiting 🤯🤯 there were some guys in the portal we whiffed on because of NIL or whatever but this is still unacceptable. The preparation for the offense to succeed was severely mismanaged from the start.
OU better start recruiting depth at QB and offensive line if theyre going to compete in the SEC.
As a Sooners fan, I'm glad this happened, why you ask? Because we finally have woke up to who we need at quarterback.
Iv defended JA but just couldn't tonight he was the biggest reason we couldn't move the ball you cant have him turning the ball over like that.
TN’s d-line is 15 deep and elite. No one is going to run on them. TN was down to its 3rd string offensive tackles and they struggled picking up the safety blitz. Heup knew he could grind out runs and play a soft 2 deep D and come out with a win. Hawkins being able to scramble will mask OU’s online deficiencies.
I dont feel bad for Arnold, who is making millions with NIL, which causes ticket prices to be unattainable to most peoole. Arnold is living the high life few of us know, with proving nothing. The rest of us OU fans have to work for a living.
Boohoo lol
I thought yalls punter was a bright spot for you tonight.
Welp I was sadly right about Arnold. I’ll take my I told you so Parker and Brandon. Remember when I said we are Iowa 2.0 and yall hated on me for it? I do. As for Litrell, he better open it up now that we have a half decent qb. If he can’t get creative with Hawkins he needs to be fired by Texas.
Littrell is worse than Arnold. What an uninspiring slug in his press conference. Fire that guy yesterday.
I yelled my damn ass off for that defense and the offense made me not want to.. it made the entire crowd not want to.. tough looks
Hawkins played great being put into that situation. So tough fr
Arnold looked shell shocked. . . . Good luck the rest of the season. GO BIG ORANGE 🍊
Embarrassed were gonna get stomped the rest of the year lol,,not sec ready smh
I dont believe theres hope as long as Seth Littrell is running the offense. Through 4 games theres been no improvement whatsoever and hes made no adjustments to try to put his players in better positions.
The OL didn't get beat as bad as I expected. The problem was that Littrell didn't give them a chance. It's like going out there against Von Miller and putting your backup OT in a 1v1 and letting him tee off on your QB. Some defenses are too good for you to do all the inside zone you want to do, and you have to accept that. Littrell never accepted that.
If the offensive line is not blocking I’d say they were BAD they definitely weren’t good they didn’t do Jackson any favors and he didn’t help the defense AT ALL!!
Very lucky Heupel kept running the ball into 8-9 man boxes as he had to protect his backup OTs.
Yes the defense did play well but much of that was assisted by the gameplan of Tenn.
Heupel wanted to shorten the game for a reason and while I think he should have been more open to throw the ball more, he chose the safer easier path to victory.
Yeah that’s true but I must add I offense put our defense in bad position all night . I’m not saying your defense is bad I’m saying our offense is horrific. Our defense fighting your offense and our offense at the same time. Our defense on the field all night. I think our defense is the real deal.
Brandon really sat up there and said the offensive line looks like they can win games in the SEC 😂
Maybe against Maine, but even that is questionable.
Jackson lost this game for sure
I don't trust him anymore, damaged goods.
Defense is championship caliber. IF and that’s a HUGE IF, Hawkins can spark the offense a bit and get us 24 points a game, we have a chance to still win 9 games. Mizzou looks very beatable, lsu, Auburn, and usc are winnable games for us. Maine should be a win column. That’s 8 wins if all goes right in those games and then sneak an upset against ole miss and you are right there man. I think the country saw what we saw last night, and that was Jackson Arnold losing a football game by himself. 3 turnovers that cost you 14 points and gave them 10. Completely different game with Hawkins at the helm to start.
Time to get rid of Litrell. Venables can't hire his buddies. This is a business, not a charity.
Yep, just like Linkey Boy hired the Grinch.
Should have kept Gabriel and let Arnold go to Miss state with Lebby.
Imagine giving up on Arnold after 4 and half games. Hasn’t looked great but geez the line, receivers, and backs suck. Backup qb is always a hero, but he better learn to get down or he won’t make it.
Your head coach looks broken and mentally checked out. Bad things coming for weak Oklahoma!
agree. He never wanted to be a head coach. I see the same things I saw when john blake was the coach talent recruited shitty coaching, in comes bob stoops and national title in second year with blake players and a guy named heupel
The best HS QB doesn't always work out. The best College LB doesn't always work out. Ask the Boz.
Nico was the number one QB in that class
Is Tatum ok? He looked like he had a concussion.
I think it’s safe to speculate that this was Jackson Arnold‘s last game in Oklahoma as a starter !!!
You can’t turn the ball over that many times that close to the goal and keep your job
Should have went for it on 4th down before halftime, and should have punted in the 4th qt instead of giving them field goal territory. JA needs to keep sitting. Seth Littrel sucks. Defense played great. Hawkins plays entire game, OU wins.
Perfect summary
We are in for a 3 game losing streak..possibly 4 if we go out and loose @ Jordan-Hare ..
Tenn was in coast mode in the 4th. If Hawkins started the game, the results would have been the same. Offensive line was the main problem.
Say the truth man. This game was solely on Arnold. Cost us 14 points completely on his own. Saying you can’t predict that is absolutely insane. 4 turnovers to Arizona, no 3rd down conversions against temple, worst offense we’ve seen at ou this century against Houston. Arnold playing like this was really the only conclusion. You could come to. Game is solely on him.
We had our third string defense on your first TD drive but Michael is good. However we went conservative and still won. GO VOLS! Good luck the rest of the way!!
Tennessee dialed back the offense to no risk because they had no faith Oklahoma could score, Sooners don't win that game either way.
Hawkins' performance is misleading. Tennessee went into a different defensive look in the second half that was way less aggressive. Need to see him start a full game against decent competition.
Can we schedule Maine 3 more times this year?
I think you let Arnold play the next 2 games and do what Lincoln Riley did . If it’s bad against Texas go with Hawkins the rest of the season .
Jackson should not touch the football for OU again . Seth should be replaced asap with an OC , The OL was ok to score better what we have seen . Defense was stellar .
Welcome to the SEC, where 1/2 the conference is better than OU. GO VOLS
The reason you couldn’t run the ball was much more about TN defense than it was about your offense. You had no chance to win this game with TN defense as they are, regardless of who starts at your QB. Heupel played very conservatively in the second half bc he knew the defense could win it. Had the TN offense played aggressively, the most likely outcome is they score at least two more touchdowns. Heupel almost always goes for it on 4th and 2 within the 40. And they would have gotten it, but he kicked the FG.
Your defense played great, but don’t let that last trash time TD delude you into thinking you could have won this game.
Brent letting DG go might be his biggest regret ever in his coaching career… he doubled down with Arnold and the dealer hit a blackjack… 😭
I disagree with any two headed qb situation. Arnold trashed his opportunity this season. If you play two qb's then you don't have one. Cleaning house of the offensive coaching staff is the only answer and no more former OU players.
How bad is Tatum’s injury?
Let's not kid ourselves. We are lucky we were playing Heupel. He called the dogs off when he realized the game was over in the 3rd Q
No he didn’t lol Tennessee was having trouble in the first half as well our defense IS that good they were on the field all night and had terrible field position because the offense was going 3 and out almost every possession until Hawkins came in.
No, Heupel knew that the only way he could lose the game is if he gave OU's defense opportunities to make game-changing plays. No one is calling the dogs off in 2 or 3 score games in the 3rd quarter.
No, he couldn’t trust Nico anymore after those 2 turnovers actually is when he started running lol
I thought they had something in Jackson after the bowl game. The INTs I chalked up to him being a freshman. Thought this year I would see a vintage OU quarterback. Boy was I wrong. Three and a half games into this season and he is nothing like the QBs we have been accustomed to seeing lately. Can’t see the field, and just not accurate. MHJ should be the starter going forward in my opinion.
Jackson Arnold seems to not be able to survey the field for alternate plays, of course he has no time because of an offensive line! Michael Hawkins Jr. seems more relaxed and natural and can ad lib if need be and find other receivers or run and make broken plays succeed with his feet!. We have lost too many O line players over the last year, period! I thought Josh was classy in victory! I have always thought the world of Josh and appreciated him!
HERES THE DEAL KID IS MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS AND IS THE MAIN REASON WE LOST THAT GAME. SO NO I DONT FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.
Hawkins played heroically
This game was very winnable for OU. Arnold and the co-OC’s are pretty much at fault here. Turnover battle was even at two apiece. Our Oline is trash. Tennessee Dline isn’t that damn good, but they were pancaking our Oline. I know coach B only has so much to work with, but damn. When you’re Oline are missing assignments left and right and the QB can’t go through even two or three of his progressions, it’s going to be a long night. Arnold is too turnover prone. Hawkins is a more dynamic run threat and he did a better job passing the ball as well. After last night, there should be no discussion of who the QB should be going forward. Littrell and Finley need to be demoted. They’re flat out not doing their jobs correctly. Brent screwed up not getting a legit OC. Is this season salvageable??? Danny and Billy are probably wondering why the hell they even came back for another year. The Defense is legit. They held Tennessee to 25 points and besides a busted play, it should have been less. OR, was Josh just taking it easy on us? Not wanting to humiliate OU for old times sake?!?! Time will tell.
I can get used to winning games in different ways than we used too. But that means we have to have some show of competence Offensively. Every Offensive coach should feel they are in the hot seat right now. We are regressing. I do feel for Jackson Rattler. It must be a horrible feeling. But great high school players may not be great D1 players. Just like great D1 players don't make muster in the NFL. At what point do we have the right to start questioning Bill B's line coaching? People burn out. Our line looks like they (yes while injuries are some of the issue) are coached by a burned out leader.
Sickening...this will tell you how our offensive coordinator and QB was tonight at the palace.. BYU lost 7 of its final 9 games.. But almost beat us if it wasn't for Billy Bowman.. They are 3-0 and not against dogs either. @SMU and @ Wyoming..They STOMPED the #12 team KSU 38-9....
No respect given to Tennessee defense...oh if we were competent on offense we wouldve won. 11 tfl..35 yards rushing...think what u wanna think
I agree. I think this is the best dline we go against the rest of the year
What’s the deal with Sharp? I thought he was supposed to be all everything going into season.
The SEC is going the beat tf out of Oklahoma. Your trenches are weak af
JA has ptsd for real!
All season I said if Arnold looks this bad playing at home, can you imagine how bad he'd look on the road. Everything I've seen all year told me this is what would happen agaonst Tennessee
At this point I can't imagine letting some of those true freshman O-lineman getting some reps to make it even worse
I still trust BV to do the right thing, which is not easy but it has to be Hawkins.
Im a UT fan, i watched every second of the game. Yalls defense is special man. Maybe the freshman QB is the play, but jackson arnold is probably the better bet in the long run. The offense will look at lot better without having to face 10 different really good DL the entire game.
Arnold will probably be Tenn backup next yr. And Heupel will be our coach within 2 yrs. Thanks for your breakdown tho
OU has one of the worst fields in the country. And their team is trash too. Lol
If that game was played in Tennessee it would have been lot worse. Welcome to the SEC
How when ou defense shut yall down!!😂😂😂😂😂 yall was lucky we dont have the offense mostly the qb position. Ou would of won atleast by 2 touchdowns if we had that qb
@@YFNBUFFALO I’m not a fan of either team, but Tennessee coach took an easy on your boys. If he didn’t go conservative in the second half they would have hung 50 on OU….
@@adamc827 just a lack of being a bad coach rather than being conservative, their offense only had like 2-3 good plays the entire game
@@adamc827 ou got them to punt like 15 times, you probably won't see that for a longgg time
@@adamc827Nah OUs defense is legit look at the time of possession and the field position. Defense gave OU a chance offense is just awful
They remind me of kentucky fans alot of wine to go with that cheese 😊
Pick your 5 guys on the line and ride with them until someone gets injured, this team does way to much rotating
Canceled my airfare, hotel, and my tickets for the Bama game.
Don't want to go see my team get it's, shit pushed in.
I think most any defense would be happy if they absolutely 💯 knew the offense was going to score 25 points today. I don't get it 😕
But I'm a fan who can't understand why today's football has a big wrestling match complete with grabbing on to the guy across from you 🤔
I like yall but sometimes you all are oblivious. The D did play well but Huepel helped them out a lot by just running up the middle when he felt it was over.
No. He couldn’t trust Nico with the ball anymore because he was turning the ball over. Rewatch the game maybe he never tried to stop scoring, this defense is just ELITE.
Good, but definitely not elite.
QB sneak under center ! Be multiple in formations
Your lying you must didn’t watch the last 3 games I saw it coming
Hate it for JA. Good kid but you gotta play the QB position and you gotta play it well at OU. Hawkins has a chance to prove something against Auburn. Should have kept DG here. Letting him leave might have cost us several wins this year.
Sadly, I was one of those Jackson Arnold homers celebrating DG's departure 😢
I was SOOO wrong
@@lexingtonconcord8751same
Whatever. DG needed to move on so we could develop a high ceiling QB. We found it in Hawkins
@@dgraham031588 and the moment Hawkins has a rough outing you’ll be calling for his head. Hawkins is a true freshman. And he didn’t necessarily ball out tonight he just looked better than JA. Which isn’t saying much. I hope Hawkins is good but I’m not getting excited until Seth lutrell is gone and a big time OC is brought in. It starts with the OC. The OC gets his players ready. Seth is not doing any of that.
OU is the new Vanderbilt in the SEC.
Thanks, we’ll be back!
OU has been overplaying it’s past games, but has too open its eyes. This is not a league that you been playing in. Buckle down and see the future.
TOO MANY ADS!
The new Nebraska. OU continues to miss on recruiting QB. Running up the middle is insane with this OL.
Hawkins wasn’t a miss
A whole year hearing about how Jackson whoever was better than Arch. Now y'all can't even use the backup QB trap card in Dallas 💀
Arch threw 2 INTs to a HS team tonight.. yikes Arnold might actually be better lol
Branson Hickman got blown 3 yards off the ball every play. Dude is WEAK
After half time tenn played safe they knew your offense couldnt score an they did put up a few good passes on you in first half what if they'd open up passing game on you really now they could of score at least 2 more times at least