What if the ANC does not win? South Africa's most uncertain elections since 1994 • FRANCE 24
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- What if, this time, the ANC does not win? Since 1994, South Africa has known plenty of ups and downs. But no matter the criticism or defections, the party of Nelson Mandela could always bank, come election time, on a winning machine that has always secured an outright majority. What if it's not the case in Wednesday's vote? And why would that be?
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Corruption, unemployment, poverty, inequality, poor infrastructure, power outages, water shortages, CRIME, illegal immigrants, etc.., etc....
The list goes on. It's time for a change.
That’s the short list
U r correct BT then again the settler still owns 90% Land n economy over natives n everybody else concern, still unequal n still u forget it's an African country n I bet u still can't speak any of the native languages, we r all still under white minority control n ANC failed to fix that, as u have corrupted them.
I want to vote for DA but looking back at our history I just can't trust it😭😭
If anyone thinks political parties aren't corrupt by nature, then they are living in another planet.
The difference here is that the ANC is the worst when it comes to corruption.
The DA is no different, just less so than the ANC. The worst part about the DA is that it is looking after the other side more than the rest of the citizens. Cape Town is such a beautiful city but governed unequally. Just look at Khayelitsha, Mitchells plain, Gugulethu, Mannenberg, Langa, and the list goes on.
The less said about the EFF the better. MK is just a waste of space, they will get votes, especially in KZN, but we would be going backwards if they miraculously grow bigger than that.
Sadly, for me at least, the only party I can think of voting for is ActionSA. Sadly because it is not as popular as the others, that is not by accident, they failed to capitalize on their last performance.
@@rany_wisemove on, stop living in the past
ANC as a political party has reached menopause. It's time for a change.
Sexist much !! I think a less sexist analogy would be more appropriate
So women that reach menopause? Must they be changed as well?
no thanks i dont want ANC .
ANC can more accurately be discribed as a criminal mafia more than political or governing party .
Yes please - no more ANC. The country needs a change - to bigger and better things. Less crime - more investment - more employment.
Wow the ANC really has become delusional 😂😂😂
Do ANC people believe their own nonsense
@@markwainwright6243 I don't think so. I think either 1.They are playing dumb as usual, or 2. they are dumb 3. as usual they make empty promises and pretend everything is perfect while SA is falling apart. 4. Maybe all of this.
This anchor is top notch. Very knowledgeable.
It's really painful listening to this ANC guy speak. Shame, he doesn't seem to have a clue about what is going on in this country.
He's got clue. It's just that ANC followers don't have clue. He is talking nonsense cos he knows that ANC followers are ignorant
That is the same guy who drives a BMW and sits with a generator while the poor is sitting in the cold.
The ANC guy is right. The South Africans who actually go out to vote on Election day love the ANC. Hence why the ANC continues to win.
@DumaM-ir7rk What are you trying to say?
If there was no unemployment pandemic, there would be no need for so many people to be on the social grants.
ANC think that 20 million people barely surviving off grants is a good thing!
It's a bad thing, nothing to brag about
It's more way more than that figure close to 29 million and set to breach over 30 million by the end of the year I can say this from experience I just applied for my grant where as I have went to uni studied got my qualification unemployed. Bear in mind before I studied I got a job straight out of highschool but during COVID got retrenched so I decided to go to uni years later graduated cannot find anything. Bear in mind i worked at a high level my qualification is at NQF 6 have experience but cannot even get a menial job. That type of job that people laugh at in movies I cannot get that weak job that pays 3500 because our country is f##ked beyond repair. Unemployment is not 33 it's 50% y does we have so many grant recipients I mean what's half of 60. We have close to 30 million on grant that's sickening.
Load shedding will continue if the anc gets voted in
And how will any other stop it ??? Explain that to us !!!!
@@truth-Hurts375 Don't be naive. Ramaphosa knows very well why we have loadshedding.
Sure, as in the coming week.
@@truth-Hurts375why don't you ask yourself how did loadshedding suddenly stop 2 months before elections
@DumaM-ir7rk If they sold it to private companies it would work. So I wish it was actually true.
LMAO! The ANC is so incompetent, they can't even get their own merch right. Check out the flag of the logo on Botes' jacket.
Lol I saw that too. SA has the combined IQ of a toasted sandwich.
And the posters in JHB that are printed in Chinese 😂😂😂😂😂
@@kobusvanstaden3747to be fair, they’re the only party reaching out to the Chinese community.
Criticising that on xenophobic grounds is a hollow criticism. The ANC has real problems. Courting minority voters is not one of them.
@@jimsquire-chestnuts8381 more to the Chinese government for money... not for the country, for the party and politicians politics yes. How many Chinese people here are SA citizens and therefore eligible to vote? Zero. Come on. Think...
So please South Africans don't vote ANC, Eff and MK think please of the children. Hell did you did not learn from the pass, WE can do it right now. PLEASE
This ANC spokesman.. what nonsense. It’s embarrassing to see him lie with a straight face. Propaganda, revisionism.. the hypocrisy is staggering. I will vote for the DA.
nor the da or the anc are good
It really annoyed me too. I couldn't even listen because the more I listened, the frustrated I became. ANC must go!
The ANC has been a huge disappointment!! Their leadership was not what Mandela had in mind! Each member of the ANC lacks integrity and morals!
I'm gonna vote for DA in less than 8 hours from now
you're crazy
@@buravan1512 Why crazy?
They love Poverty,as long as they can scream AmAAAANdla@@Ritesh-yy1zr
Eff please thank you
Wise choice💙💙
Huge inequality? 😂 The anc made sure of that.
ANC: "loyal to the people" 😂😂😂😂. Dude is on somthing
Of all the tragedies the ANC has thrust on South Africans, the worst is failing to invest in the youth. It's been an epic failure of leadership, disinfrancising young people, that will have devastating consequences for decades. The circle of trust has been broken.
Yeah right. Let's blame the farmers for employing a few foreigners. It is ANC policy to have open borders so they allowed them here en masse to begin with
Difference between foreigners and ANC voters is that A) Foreigners actually get off their butts and work and B) they don't treat the Tax paying Whites like garbage.
ANC over 50 % ? Depending on how many vote boxes were pre stuffed.
IEC, as an organization, may preach on ethics, but the individuals working there might have different ideologies of self- enrichment and take a bribe to compromise votes.
@DumaM-ir7rk EFF have revised their stance on open borders. ANC will win.
@DumaM-ir7rkso true thats why they dnt want them to return bck to their countries,they help them with their votes,i smell a rat longtyme😂
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The ANC absolutely needs to go!!!!!!
Agree fully
41:09 I think the fact that a lot of people are following this ex convict, just shows how low the ANC has set the bar 🧐
Poor infrastructure, water supply issues, loadshedding and rail and port systems falling apart all result in unemployment and poverty.
In other words Unemployment and Poverty are the symptoms and may well be cited as the big election issues but it's the causes which need to be resolved.
Thay vote for GRANTS 350 rand so soooooo BAD
Childrens they Correct NOT Vote for ANC 👍👍
It's very strange that ANC is so denial of reality. Let's wait and see.
Is it not surprising that the one that makes the least sense on the panel of speakers is the ANC spokesman.
The ANC f'd up the country
Ahem...Voting in South Africa is like giving birth to barbwire. As the outcome has always been painful.😱🤕👀
The biggest tragedy is the destruction of basic education in public schools. The ANC condemned an entire generation to poverty. Nothing will change for those that voted ANC the last 30 years. Fix basic education, look after your kids and pray for pro market governments that are competent. Without it, your kids will be as doomed as you are.
Good riddens, South Africans will be better of without the ANC at the helm
ANC please a lot of BS 30+ look at SA man
ANC will continue to rule South Africa. Even that they don't get 51%
The whole world is looking at us today until the elections are over. How we all pray for a miracle that the ANC loses these elections. But we South Africans know it won't end well. There will be a lot of drama if that is the case. We are tired of the ANC, but yeah, only through prayers and hope a miracle may happen.
No thank you ANC, you have Failed on ALL fronts and your criminality has permeated you throughout all your avenues, you simply Must GO!
Am busy preparing myself for vote today
Who are you planning to vote for?
EFF nationally, ActionSA provisionally and PA regionally
I can't sleep until casting my vote today
MK
@@peterntuli7074 Do you have PANADO because ANC will win.
ANC has failed!
for 30 years now
Anc guy says day deliver houses to the poor, water and sanitation. He didn't mention electricity coz he knows the truth
the ANC guy just said free education, yet they where shooting kids at wits for protesting over fees hike
It’s paradoxical that young people think that not voting punishes any other person other than themselves.
All my young friends are not voting and have no confidence in the government!! This is very sad!
⚖⚖NO ANC NO EFF IN OUR DISTRICT⚖⚖
Business owners prefer to work with our surrounding immigrants as the are hard working and don't expect handouts, as the ANC have brainwashed the local population making them think they are intitled to things they have not earned.
Would also like to know the stats when it comes to how many citizens who are receiving grants, how many of them made it to the polls?
You are foreign and probably illegal and desperate!!!
Those who are in power are usually the last to realise that they've lost it.
The problem years ago in Cape was not infrastructure but a drought now with current water problems is infrastructure. DA mayor works hard on infrastructure and improving it and so many have been given jobs to do this work.
This dude from the ANC brags about Social Grants but at no stage he mentions the number of Jobs his party enabled or made possible. Ramaphosa & his Cadres have it all & the masses are left to fend for themselves. They, the ANC should hand over the baton to a party that is more capable, like the FF Plus.
It will be the best thing EVER!!!! 🤞🏻
Recently out of jail, not true! Why is this ,,,lying?
When Zuma must Go to Jail his Sick & Provocation Dancing schandalig
Finally someone asks the correct question
The lies that Botes spouted! As a South African, I’m disgusted.
I hope and pray for a new dawn and era in SA south 🇿🇦 💙 We desperately need leaders who can lead our country into the bright and prosperous future it deserves.
Today the ANC will fall thanks to Ramaphosa
Is the ANC speaker, Botes, South African? One can hardly make out what his saying! The ANC gets it wrong all the time - their publicity and communication people are just terrible to listen to! (FYI, I’m a Cape Town Coloured …)
Dis oor hy poes praat
Where is the famous Fikile?
@@christinanxumalo6811 hopefully in a cage somewhere... You're right though, he has been quiet...
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Zuma's corruption gutted us, then he started the MK while still a member of the ANC. This new party has quite a decent slice of the pie.
Zuma is destroying our country and he's even attempting to dismantle the ANC
If ANC don’t win …..then we prosper and we move forward it’s called progress 😊😊😊😊😊
im afraid not
...that'll be breath of fresh air
Why is anc alwys thinking no other party can replace them ,the lovers of anc died longtime ,they are now our ancerstors,who are now sorry for us,living in utmost poverty,corruption nd illegal immigration,they are crying in their graves😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭,
This Botes character just lies & lies. Gayton didn't just get out of jail. Gayton is out of jail for some 13 years. This dude, Botes must be taken off air, he is scoring own goals for the ANC.
The youth must fight for the change of democracy to a system that works for them.
It was 66 percent of those who bothered to register in reality it was around 12 million out of a population of more then 50 million who actually voted in the last election
ANC always produces doctored truth, whoever takes them serious needs serious examination, they never take full accountability for their flaws and failures and none ever brought to book under their control.
Anc has the majority and should win, but not as strong as in the past.
As much as we hate to hear that
I doubt that.
This gentleman talking about Gayton being 'recently' convicted is misleading the viewers and talking about migrants without specifying 'illegal' is also misleading people... That is so wrong of him.
Rise Mzansi , new leaders.
Suspect
For the last 30 years, we have been living in the ANC's democracy. With all off the games that are being played with the ANC and Mk, we may finally have South Africa's actual democracy going forward. IF they actually eat some humble pie and not sink the country entirely, to protect their friends and family.
How can you call anyone a criminal when those in the anc are stealing from poor people? Allowing people to starve to death! Heat your own homes when my family in Alexandra goes without Heat and water
30 years of low or no land reform has failed! Land reform is the key to growth and widespread development. Growing a stakeholder society with land equity will be able to invest!!!
Of course Bloomberg is against South Africa after South Africa stood up to Israel.
Honestly, ALL political party's needs to go. Due to politics, we are left with a trainsmash.
Ethiopia could not borrow money for the Ethiopian Grand Renaissance Dam from the West.Do the West truly want African countries to develop?
The ANC is going to win, and all those saying otherwise are simply saying their prayers out aloud, not their true conviction. There is a good reason why the ANC, which is by no means perfect, has remained and will likely remain in power for a long time. It has the backing of the people whose voice really matters in an election, and they are not those who talk the loudest. Like a woman who escaped an abusive relationship, the silent majority in South Africa has been traumatised and is afraid to trust anyone again.
Where do you fit migrants into BEE? 🙄
The host of this show was really good. Well done, quite refreshing to see
It means our country will be "Corruption free". Obviously!
Nothing will happen it will be like every day
ANC EFF and or MK coalition is risky business
And a wake up call to fix inequalities faced in RSA ASAP
@@SoultyBoiBeats MK, ANC and EFF will perpetuate inequalities
ANC MUST GO ..IS NO LONGER THE SAME😢
They have been blocking you tube intermittently in SA today
can someone explain how the presidential system works in SA as there are no direct election... if he is like a parliamentary elected executive then surely he can be replaced every few weeks
Why show so much ANC in the beginning of the segment? And again, South Africa is not as poor as you make it to be. Our unemployment rate ate at a low age. And we are still dealing with racism yet there is no way way our unemployment rate is Eben worse that Zimbabwe when they come to the country illegally and we are talking about 20% of illegal addiction population. Eitherway, we are done with ANC.
Let's talk about young people like those with degrees and no jobs because they have no contacts.
Democracy is the best government, but many flavors exist, and unrestrained majority rule can be dangerous.
What "IF*doesn't work but can be used by none thinkers,
It will be XMAS for the country , and it should not end there they should be punished and make them uncomfortable and take them to court for CRUELTY .
The ANC is a governing coalition. The ANC-SACP-COSATU. What will this minority turnout mean for the interests of those coalition members if/when the "ANC" forms this projected coalition?
It's time for the SACP to break from this sinking ship and go out on their own.
Since when is COSATU a political party ???
Domkop !!!
ANC is a political alience !!!!
They helped sink the ship
Too late for SACP.
Never!
7.1 million individual
National Treasury's estimates of individuals and taxable income for 2023/24 clearly illustrate a problem. They show South Africa has 7.1 million individual taxpayers, down from 7.4 million a year ago
South African, system is much better than other countries, even if they are struggling in dome areas.
Since Nelson Mandela's presidency ended, politics in SA has become a matter on who manages the public purse. It has become a race of who can control the money and loot the state resources through corrupt tenders to themselves, family and friends. Unfortunately it has become a matter of self enrichment and far removed from service delivery. Every aspect of service delivery has collapsed to become at best unreliable. Only one province, albeit with many challenges due to legacy issues, is managing to improve living conditions. Eye watering amounts of money is being looted. With the previous and current president becoming billionaires overnight, its quite clear emotions are manipulated and voter trust abused to become economically elite. We only need to look at Zimbabwe to see how this ends.
Coalition with ANC, MK, and EFF will be a huge wake up call to rush and fix the inequalities faced, its like not servicing a car till it break down, now there will be no choice but to take it in for service and im up for that
Sad reality investors have already said they won't invest here. Others here will start to pull out and where's the jobs, employment for people. All professionals will leave and that is all races and zero tax money to fix anything. You need money to run a country efficiently and serve the people that are suffering.
What if scientists discovered a cure for diabetes? What if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict came to a definitive end? What if rainbows, and stars and unicorns? 🥰
Our fight for Palestinians has you in your feelings, keep your opinions to yourself
14:20 you execute competence 😂
Support for Hamas backfired
EFF all the way
Sad reality investors have already said they won't invest here. Others here will start to pull out and where's the jobs, employment for people. All professionals will leave and that is all races and zero tax money to fix anything. You need money to run a country efficiently and serve the people that are suffering.
Which party then do you think can run this Country?
ANC has gone through a rigorous testing... Experience The Best Teacher..
Pray ANC keep holding the fort
Then South Africa will Celebrate.
@18:35 Wow. Very interesting. If the ANC doesn't form a coalition within just 2 weeks South Africa could vote twice this year?
They should make the coalition talk time longer. But I could definitely see the inability to form a government in just two weeks. We will see.
Undocumented foreigners must go home and fix their country. South Africa doesn't have the resources to support millions of them.
@39:11 This is a very low shot, and untrue. "He's RECENTLY out of jail". Gayton Mckenzie was released from prison in 2003, 21 years ago. Just a very cheap shot to make rather than deal with the substance of what he's saying.
What IS the substance of what he's saying..? Does he even know?