I normally won't remove the catalytic converters but I did when I took my bike land speed racing. However, since removing the catalytic converter from underneath the engine the heat and I believe to the engine has been reduced significantly. Excellent job fitting and explaining the process and I thought the new exhaust had a nicer tone to it.
I have always thought that a bike is never better tuned than what it is coming from the manufacturers. So I have been very conscious that I'm playing around with the bikes genetics. I'm going to moniter the MPG etc and may do a update video on it. 👍
This is how all exhaust install videos should go, I was installing a Yoshimura and watching install TH-cam, never did any actual drive by to listen to.
Sounds absolutely fantastic.I paid £226 for a Mivv/Storm endcan and link pipe from Italy for my TRK502.The Black Widow system is great value/ quality kit considering.
Thanks lilly, to be honest,it really is quite easy. As long as you have the tools then then it's all done for you. I'm really pleased with it. Lots a smile on my face riding around Exeter 😀
Well I gotta say ER great choice that was a no brainer to change the old pipe wow what a difference just sounds tons better and looks a whole lot nicer too .Nice move 👌👍
Thanks crumbley, I'm really pleased with it. Really puts a smile on my face which is what it's all about isn't it. Hope you're well mate, wheather turning which is sad to see another summer fading away. But still some ride time left 👍😎
@@exeterrider Absolutely it just flies by mate Im not so bad need to get out before summers gone 😁Finally after a whole lot of work house goes on tomorrow so I can relax and maybe get some rides in.👍
Nothing ever goes perfectly smooth...but overall it didn't look like an extremely difficult swap! And it definitely sounds better!! Looks better too!! Not many stock exhausts look great. Good video Exeter!!
In California, USA there are emission restrictions; so I got the muffler can slip-on, 300 mm (like yours). I really like the livelier sound in say third and fourth gear (I have the DCT). When cruising along in sixth gear it seems to settle down quite nicely. It looks awesome too. Thanks for the video.
They don't do inspections anymore, at least when I registered my NC from out of state. They only checked the engine serial number. Unless something changes, they don't require smog tests for motorcycles, probably due to no OBD port and the small # of motorcycles on the roads. Obviously it's illegal to remove cat converters, but I don't see how it could be enforced by law.
Thanks for another NC750X video it’s nice to see amongst all the other bikes you get to ride. By the way, I didn’t feel compelled to ride my bike without my jacket and gloves……🤣 as per an earlier comment. I appreciate your efforts.
Yes, thanks Ray, top be honest I'm laid here in bed with covid at the moment and can't be assed with getting in a deep back and forward match. As you say, that's the information super Highway for you. Thanks for your ongoing support 👍👍🙏
Excellent video with very clear install instructions, I bought & fitted the same kit as yours to my 2017 NC750X DCT but found it way too loud out on the road. I ended up refitting the original down pipe to the Black Widow end can…much improved over the heavy stock can & still has a fruity sound.
Maybe down the line I may do the same. I find it fine so far, but a run over Dartmoor the other day going up long hills at 50, it was starting to bind 😑👍
Hi ER, I did a longish motorway journey sitting around the national speed limit. The loud drone sound coming from the end can can drove me mad, I knew then it was time to go back to the cat. Hope this helps -John.
@@johndavy8801 I'm inclined to believe you're right on this. Loud is cool... at first. But it's usually just fatiguing in the long run. The NC can definitely use a little more characterful exhaust note but loud doesn't really suit it. I also love that it doesn't stink with the catalytic converter. You're still happy with just the muffler after 11 months?
@@RobertSmith-bh5cv Hi Robert & hope your well,yes I’m still happy with the Black Widow slip on can swap to the NC. They are excellent quality/value for money with a Lovely fruity sound thats not overbearing (baffle out ) also British Made which can’t be a bad thing. Exeter Rider also installed the Black Widow header pipe (see his video as it’s very Good) but for me personally I found it’s way too loud in built up areas & running sustained motorway speeds. So went back to the original header pipe including the Cat. Hope this info is of some use if your planning something on your bike. Kind Regards - John D.
Hey thanks for the video and the link, got an nc yesterday and was just thinking tonight riding home it could do with a bit more of a better sound. I think im going to go with the black widow you sold me it 😂 thanks again !
The look on your face with the stickers! Great video mate, like a good before and after comparison! I installed the Delkavic system on my GSX1400 which is a similar brand, rather more fiddly on a 4 into 2!!!!
Looks great, and much more manly. I always thought a bit of stubble would suit you 🤪 Oh the exhaust sounds and looks lovely. Definite improvement and good job with the ‘how to’ 👏🏻👍🏼🍻
I'm really pleased with it, I remember the difference it made on the witch and thought "I want a bit of that" great fun riding around Exeter with it. 👍
@@Saddlebags73 definitely puts a smile on ya face. Forgot to say, well done with your b roll on your vid today. Its a bind isn't it but does make a big difference to the video. Very engaging. 📹😉And yes. One has a little beard at the moment 😄
Great video. Looking for a exhaust for my NC750X but not sure to go with black widow or scorpion. Only down side to scorpion is that they only do half system for the NC.
Looks and sounds great! Bet your well pleased with it, I too am trying to get used to the new sound of my bike after fitting some vance and hines on the intruder a few weeks ago,
Wow, I bet that seems a thump up your butt. Are you pleased with it or is it too much? I was hoping to catch up with you this year, but not looking promising now.
I'm pleased with it now, it was too noisey for me at 1st, but I had to make up some, what they call "lollipops" to it down somewhat😂 Yeah maybe next year, time goes on to quickly doesn't it?
Your life…your skin….your choice…. I must of missed the bit where you said you where the guru of all things motorbike safety related. If you choose to ride in t shirt it’s just that….your choice. Let’s be honest,haven’t we all done something we know we shouldn’t of? Ps love the new can, sounds awesome
Bikes are built to run lean for emissions compliance. Opening up the flow through the engine will make this matter worse. Not engine-damaging worse, but worse. Only a remap will handle that.
So awesome of you to say , Thanks Dave. I really like it when people come in and comment that I haven't heard from before. No re-map needed, Black Widow allow for this in there tuning of the exhaust itself. Plug and play!
@@exeterrider I'm going to have a look at the website now, just finished installing the Innovv K5 camera system on my NC, this will probably be my last upgrade before my new bike arrives.
Yes I agree with All the gear, All the time but I got heat exhaustion trying to do my CBT in 27 C heat and had to abandon it, so occasionally if you're going slow, it's your own personal decision, I think.
@Lily Northover getting on and off the bike 10 times to get the shots and walking over to the camera was horrible. Dripping with sweat, then I felt there was more chance me conking out due to the heat. On the way home I put all the gear on again. I just needed to draw the line or not make the video, video won 👍
It's important to be safe that includes not being ill. I know I couldn't concentrate and just wanted to rip the helmet off. I going to MTS in October to do it right 👍🏻
Thanks Chris, I don't regret changing mine, around town is alot of fun, although it can get wearing on longer trips although I wear ear plugs and it's no issue then 👍🍻I say it's worth the money. Cheers 🍺
Nice sounding exhaust there. Is it okay to leave on for MoT time as it no longer has a catalytic converter, or do you have to put the original back on for the test.
I've just got a dct nc750x. I had a black widow with decat on my previous bike and liked the quality. How do you find the bike on longer runs when you are holding the revs at motorway speed? Have you tried the exhaust with the baffle removed yet?
Hi Ben, motorway is fine and not annoying, but it does start to get wearing when going up and down hills etc for over an hour. Gets on my nerves a bit, but I wouldn't go back. I've left the baffles in and not tried it without. Its loud enough 🔊😅🍻👍
Brilliant vid ER, It's great seeing someone else getting their hands dirty aswell! 👍🙂 I'm in the market for a end can for my CB500F & really struggling to decide, but had the same theory as you, regarding the longer the quieter & the Akra's are unpronounceable & waaaaay too dear! 👍🤣
Ha, is rather learn French than learn how to pronounce AK. Mine is still pretty loud but happy with it, I would want it any other way. Go for it mate, it changes the whole feel of the bike 👍👍🏍️
How has the exhaust held up? Any issues with the engine running lean? Is the bike throwing any codes? I know that black widow claims that no modification is needed. Just trying to see from your perspective, thanks.
Yes you can! But from my experience from others , it will leave you wanting more. So i guess you could try the end can then if you want more then de-cat. Its all reversible whatever you do anyway.
@@exeterrider thanks for the answer ! I don't have that bike yet, I have a CB650R 2022 but planning on buying a NC750X to commute ( gas prices rising in France makes me thinking about fuel consumption now 😂) can you compare it to the cb650r in terms of position ?( If you ever tried it obviously) Ride safe ! ✌️
CB650 is a nice bike but very much a small feeling bike and I think the NC will give you more ,and if you want to tour at any point then NC is the way to go. I am not fond of 4 cylinder engines anyway for road riding because they always want to be revved high, and you will eat gas compared to a 2 cylinder. You will want to move on from the 650 but not the NC. Its an old review but here is this one I made in the old days th-cam.com/video/9Z5kr7TYEc0/w-d-xo.html
Downside is on long journeys up and down hills it starts my tinitis off.. Manufacters will make any excuse to void warrantys.... I can't answer your question on that sorry to say you will have to ask your local dealer.
Ha ha sounds lovely,,,,my voge goes this week,(really not my cup of tea), and I’ve got a nc being delivered this week,, got a feeling I’m gonna have to Chuck one of these black widows on
@@exeterrider unfortunately no,,, I got one of the first 650dsx,s,,,, and just not my cup of tea,(massive understatement tbh), I’m hoping the nc750 means I can get back to enjoying bikes. As long as it’ll get upto 85/90 ish I’ll be happy,, obviously I know the nc has it’s issues, but I think most of these can be sorted, whilst retaining its brilliance... The many reviews seem to paint a very competent bike, which can be tweaked to be pretty damn good
@@marktaylor720 sorry to hear that Mark. As you probably saw the 650 feel short with the engine on the whole, but the fuelling as I mentioned ruined it.but the bike physically I thought was good. . I'm so pleased you're moving on to the nc, its not super exciting but I love mine and is the polar opposite of what you have been through with the 650. Good Times are just around the corner again Mark. Stay in contact 🍻👍
@@exeterrider yeah absolutely,,,,I’m not sure if it’s the euro 5 spoiling the voge, or just a poor ecu, (I’ve followed the cf moto 890, that also seems to have poor fuelling), but the fuelling is dire,, and is absolutely spoiling what could be a half decent bike,, the service intervals are stupid too and was another nail in the bikes coffin for me.
Very nice I fitted just the end can,but seeing yours tempted to buy the other half now,are you changing the air filter at all say K &N, been told its wise to do so what's your thoughts ?
On balence I don't think I'll gain much from a new filter. I think the decat part was about 120. So I say it's worth buying that part. It makes a big difference 💯👆
It's good! more low end torque (slight) and i seem to be getting slightly better economy according to the MPG moniter im getting 8 mpg more on average .
Hi, I have bought an NC 750 X, 2015 from bridge, back in November, it has an SP engineering can on it, do you think it would benefit from a decat pipe? Thanks. 😎🏍👍😀
Like everything, well done, BUT, as the bike is now illegal ( no catalytic ), should you ever need a BIG claim it might be dismissed! Sorry to be a spoilsport, not intentional I can assure you!
Hiya mate, nice video thanks, Economy means a lot to me so can you tell me if there is any difference in miles per gallon with the new pipe fitted. Cheers.
It's slightly better in finding. I was getting around 75mpg but it's averaging 83 now. Perhaps it's because I've been using it mainly around town, either way I don't think I have lost any economy 👍🍻
@@paulegan7250 me too, someone said to me it should give me more low end and economy. I disagreed but it seems I read wrong. I've only done 100 miles since its been done mind so early days really.
I found this, perhaps someone may care to comment. Without a reconfigured engine management system, decatting can be extremely harmful to your vehicle. Without a catalyst and no back-pressure, the engine management system will try to recalculate the changes and allow more air into the engine. This can result in the engine fuel mixture becoming lean, meaning too much air and too little fuel. This can potentially lead to your engine overheating and engine failure. However, a simple ECU remap can solve this problem.
I get where you're coming from and I asked Black Widow about this. They have calibrated the can to a standard map so that's all looked after here. Mine dosent seem to be running to rich or lean and I think Im getting more. MPGs👍🏃
Congratulations on being able to make more noise! I hope everyone else will appreciate it as much as you, but I highly doubt it. Most people tend to hate other people's noise, did you consider that? I admit that it could have been far worse, but still, spending money on making unnecessary noise that bothers other people makes no sense to me. I own an NC750X myself with a stock exhaust. It makes all the noise I need, and my neighbors don't hate me, so I don't intend to change it.
Your right it's not that loud. And it does make drivers more aware of me which is a good thing. Some exhausts are silly, certainly when they take the balls out. This is just louder in a sensible way 👍. But yes I do consider others for sure
@@exeterrider Out of curiosity, what will happen, if you get stopped by the Police? If I were to get stopped in Denmark, where I live, with a conversion like yours, I would receive a hefty fine. Perhaps, perhaps not for excessive noise, but certainly for removing the catalytic converter, that's illegal here (and not really environmentally friendly either, is it?) What are the rules in the UK about that?
@@olethorhermansen5696 as long as the baffles are in then your good here noise wise. DB wise it will pass the Mot. (yearly legal l safety checks) So no issue here, but I know it would be a issue if I popped over to yours for a coffee😁👍
@@exeterrider nah, not Greta but still :) I just got my own NC last month, will save some cash for a slip-on. But don't take the cat out, it has a lot of precious metals, (Pt, Pd, Rd) hence value. Plus it reduces NOx and oxidises CO, making your rides much cleaner.
@@dagger732 Motorbike's really don't cough out alot anyway. Just have what you want id say. Slip on ares better but many say they wished they went the extra after just having a skip on. Just a thought 👍
When your hopping on and off the bike for 2 hours getting shots for the video on. 25 degree plus heat, then it gets too hot. Got to be real about it and everyone understands this generally speaking. I was in a quiet spot doing a 100 metre fly past. On the way home I put all my gear on.
If I'm honest if people knew what goes into creating entertaining footage they would understand that 20 yards in a t-shirt isn't a problem. Plus if a grown man cant make his own decisions and needs examples set by someone they don't know, perhaps they shouldn't be riding on the public road. Just my opinion.
That's not the point. How long does it take to put a jacket and gloves on regardless of the temperature. People will watch this vid and think of its ok for him its ok for me. You have to think of the bigger picture.
@@SCOOPER3896 then those people shouldn't be able to spend time on a dangerous hobby if they are incapable of making their own decisions. Exeter rider isn't the fashion police or the safety police, allow people to make their own decisions. I've watched the borat movie but I've not once considered wearing a mankini
A great looking exhaust, ER, and quite straightforward to install. It sounded really nice when you pulled away from the quay the other day.
I'm really pleased with it Jim. I wouldn't go back to stock now 👍
I normally won't remove the catalytic converters but I did when I took my bike land speed racing. However, since removing the catalytic converter from underneath the engine the heat and I believe to the engine has been reduced significantly.
Excellent job fitting and explaining the process and I thought the new exhaust had a nicer tone to it.
I have always thought that a bike is never better tuned than what it is coming from the manufacturers. So I have been very conscious that I'm playing around with the bikes genetics.
I'm going to moniter the MPG etc and may do a update video on it. 👍
Surely removal of the cat is an Mot failure now?
@ha7v3y1 nope👍
@@exeterrider it probably is cooler because catalytic converters need to produce a massive amount of heat to work properly.
@@chadridsdale9970 good point 👍🍻
Really like the sound of that on the drive by.
Looks cool as well, especially with the carbon tip. 👍
Glad you like it! I do too. It's made me really enjoy riding it again : )
This is how all exhaust install videos should go, I was installing a Yoshimura and watching install TH-cam, never did any actual drive by to listen to.
Ahh , made my day that , Thanks very much!
Sounds absolutely fantastic.I paid £226 for a Mivv/Storm endcan and link pipe from Italy for my TRK502.The Black Widow system is great value/ quality kit considering.
It is Chris, I have a TRK review coming soon 👍👍
@@exeterrider brilliant news.Im changing next year.Love the NC750x it's no.1 on my shortlist but I'm intrigued by the new TRK 702 (pricing tbc).
Great video! nice job with the drive bys and letting us hear what it sounds like at a steady 4k. Most demos just play rolling the Throttle. Thank you
Glad you liked it! It was quite a bit of work so I'm glad the video did well tbh.
Always nice for us when folk acknowledge that, thanks 👍
One of the best exhaust vids😊
Appreciate that, thanks very much 🙏🍻
@@exeterrider I live in Canada and I think I'm going to order one
I was expecting a header pipe wrestling match with maybe some blow torch action, it all went very smoothly. 😊
Me too. Piece of cake. Almost sounds as good as yours!
Oh yeah 😎 That sounds much better and not too loud. You make it look so easy.
Oh, and it looks better too.
Thanks lilly, to be honest,it really is quite easy. As long as you have the tools then then it's all done for you.
I'm really pleased with it. Lots a smile on my face riding around Exeter 😀
I'll listen out for you when I'm down that way 😊
Bought the 300mm end can for mine and thought it sounded good, now tempted to buy the rest of the components and decat it!
Only another 120 odd, I think it's worth it 👍👆
Well I gotta say ER great choice that was a no brainer to change the old pipe wow what a difference just sounds tons better and looks a whole lot nicer too .Nice move 👌👍
Thanks crumbley, I'm really pleased with it. Really puts a smile on my face which is what it's all about isn't it. Hope you're well mate, wheather turning which is sad to see another summer fading away. But still some ride time left 👍😎
@@exeterrider Absolutely it just flies by mate Im not so bad need to get out before summers gone 😁Finally after a whole lot of work house goes on tomorrow so I can relax and maybe get some rides in.👍
Nice one 👍
Great demonstration. Thank you my friend
Thanks James 🙏👍
Sounds great much better but as you say not to load looks good too and fitter easy what’s not to like 👍 thanks for the upload. 🏍💨 M
Thanks for watching 👍📺
That Black Widow has got some base through my headphones. Bike sounds epic.
😉👍
Nothing ever goes perfectly smooth...but overall it didn't look like an extremely difficult swap!
And it definitely sounds better!! Looks better too!! Not many stock exhausts look great.
Good video Exeter!!
It was easy really. I'm really pleased with it. Lots a smile on my face, thanks KG
In California, USA there are emission restrictions; so I got the muffler can slip-on, 300 mm (like yours). I really like the livelier sound in say third and fourth gear (I have the DCT). When cruising along in sixth gear it seems to settle down quite nicely. It looks awesome too. Thanks for the video.
You worded that very well Roger. Your right in all you say there. As you say , in 6th it purrs just right.
Californians need to get together and disband the CARB.
They don't do inspections anymore, at least when I registered my NC from out of state. They only checked the engine serial number. Unless something changes, they don't require smog tests for motorcycles, probably due to no OBD port and the small # of motorcycles on the roads. Obviously it's illegal to remove cat converters, but I don't see how it could be enforced by law.
Good work! Expect some decrease in fuel consumption due to enthusiastic use of throttle now you have a great sounding bike! Enjoy!
Yeap Your right there😉👍🍻
Thanks for another NC750X video it’s nice to see amongst all the other bikes you get to ride. By the way, I didn’t feel compelled to ride my bike without my jacket and gloves……🤣 as per an earlier comment. I appreciate your efforts.
OK Raymond thanks 👍
You’re welcome mate it’s a shame you have to read silly comments like that but I guess that’s social media.
Yes, thanks Ray, top be honest I'm laid here in bed with covid at the moment and can't be assed with getting in a deep back and forward match.
As you say, that's the information super Highway for you. Thanks for your ongoing support 👍👍🙏
Get well soon mate and all the best.
That's a bummer. Hope you feel much better really soon. Plenty of hot Ribena. Doesn't do anything but feels really nice when you stop drinking it 😆
Excellent video with very clear install instructions, I bought & fitted the same kit as yours to my 2017 NC750X DCT but found it way too loud out on the road. I ended up refitting the original down pipe to the Black Widow end can…much improved over the heavy stock can & still has a fruity sound.
Maybe down the line I may do the same. I find it fine so far, but a run over Dartmoor the other day going up long hills at 50, it was starting to bind 😑👍
Hi ER, I did a longish motorway journey sitting around the national speed limit. The loud drone sound coming from the end can can drove me mad, I knew then it was time to go back to the cat.
Hope this helps -John.
It does, most of my work is around the city, where its quite fun listening to it, but I can see where your coming from on longer rides 👍💯
@@johndavy8801 I'm inclined to believe you're right on this. Loud is cool... at first. But it's usually just fatiguing in the long run. The NC can definitely use a little more characterful exhaust note but loud doesn't really suit it. I also love that it doesn't stink with the catalytic converter. You're still happy with just the muffler after 11 months?
@@RobertSmith-bh5cv Hi Robert & hope your well,yes I’m still happy with the Black Widow slip on can swap to the NC. They are excellent quality/value for money with a Lovely fruity sound thats not overbearing (baffle out ) also British Made which can’t be a bad thing. Exeter Rider also installed the Black Widow header pipe (see his video as it’s very Good) but for me personally I found it’s way too loud in built up areas & running sustained motorway speeds. So went back to the original header pipe including the Cat.
Hope this info is of some use if your planning something on your bike. Kind Regards - John D.
Hey thanks for the video and the link, got an nc yesterday and was just thinking tonight riding home it could do with a bit more of a better sound. I think im going to go with the black widow you sold me it 😂 thanks again !
Awesome....I dont regret mine. Go for it I say : )
Hard to believe that sound comes from a 58hp efficiency motor. Sounds like a big cube Harley!
You got that right! It never gets boring 🍻👍
Sounds really good now. Well done.
Thanks, I'm really pleased with it 👍💯
The look on your face with the stickers!
Great video mate, like a good before and after comparison!
I installed the Delkavic system on my GSX1400 which is a similar brand, rather more fiddly on a 4 into 2!!!!
I can imagine! I was thinking at the time I was pleased it's only a parellel twin! I do like a sticker 😂👍
I put one of these on a bandit 650. It sounded awesome
For me they are the best sounding can out there after looking at the comparison videos for the NC. I'm glad I took the plunge😎
Looks great, and much more manly. I always thought a bit of stubble would suit you 🤪
Oh the exhaust sounds and looks lovely. Definite improvement and good job with the ‘how to’ 👏🏻👍🏼🍻
I'm really pleased with it, I remember the difference it made on the witch and thought "I want a bit of that" great fun riding around Exeter with it. 👍
Satisfying when you can hear it isn’t it 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 definitely puts a smile on ya face. Forgot to say, well done with your b roll on your vid today. Its a bind isn't it but does make a big difference to the video. Very engaging. 📹😉And yes. One has a little beard at the moment 😄
Yes the " Rolf Harris " look suits him ............
@@PhilipKerry 😂😂so many places I could go with that 🤔🤣👍
Great video. Looking for a exhaust for my NC750X but not sure to go with black widow or scorpion. Only down side to scorpion is that they only do half system for the NC.
Black widow it is then 👍🖤🍻
Big improvement, and looks good 👍👍👍👍
Thanks, Brill isn't it 🙏👍
Honda always sound great with a Header ! Let’s it breathe to. 👍
Very true 💯👌👍
Great improvement ER, looks great too👍
Sounds great dosent it. Lots a smile on my face 🙂
Looks and sounds great! Bet your well pleased with it, I too am trying to get used to the new sound of my bike after fitting some vance and hines on the intruder a few weeks ago,
Wow, I bet that seems a thump up your butt. Are you pleased with it or is it too much?
I was hoping to catch up with you this year, but not looking promising now.
I'm pleased with it now, it was too noisey for me at 1st, but I had to make up some, what they call "lollipops" to it down somewhat😂
Yeah maybe next year, time goes on to quickly doesn't it?
@@markbroom5152 yes it does sadly. Yes that would be good 👍
Great vid, what a stunning exhaust and top instruction 😎👍
Thanks. Im really pleased with it 👍
I enjoyed that thanks, black widow system it is then for my bike thanks.
you will enjoy it I'm sure
Your life…your skin….your choice….
I must of missed the bit where you said you where the guru of all things motorbike safety related.
If you choose to ride in t shirt it’s just that….your choice.
Let’s be honest,haven’t we all done something we know we shouldn’t of?
Ps love the new can, sounds awesome
Thanks mate, yes I dressed for the way home. Thanks for watching, how to see more of your videos again soon 👍
Quality video. Congrats! One question. can you use only the forward part (decat) while keeping the original silencer?
I don't know to be honest, I don't think so though, it would need a remap of the ecu👍
Uncomfortably tight....WHEYYYYYY😂
Your face when she fired up said it all mate
She sounds a million times better 🙂
I really enjoy riding it again. New lease of life 👍😉
That sounds and looks great 😀😀
Thanks Chris it really puts a smile on my face 👍
Probably someone with Woolich software could flash that ECU and you'd find significant improvements.
I'm OK as it's tbh👍
Bikes are built to run lean for emissions compliance. Opening up the flow through the engine will make this matter worse. Not engine-damaging worse, but worse. Only a remap will handle that.
That sounds great!
Yeap 👍
Woow sounds way too good,. I was going to say sounds good stock too.
Brill isn't it 👍
Bike sounds great nice meet you yesterday must admit fancy a nc750
And you ...I have just subbed you . It was a nice day. Thanks : )
Do you need to make any engine adjustments or get it re mapped?.....Love the videos ER
So awesome of you to say , Thanks Dave. I really like it when people come in and comment that I haven't heard from before.
No re-map needed, Black Widow allow for this in there tuning of the exhaust itself. Plug and play!
Nice Sound, Looks Good
I'm really pleased with it, thanks RB👍
Another quality video. Thank you! BTW, does de-catting cause any issues like the check engine light turning on?
Thanks, no it dissent cause any issues. Black widow design there exhausts to be plug and play with no extra work needed 🔌👍
Nice, I was looking at a Black widow myself
It puts a smile on your face Rob💯👍
@@exeterrider I'm going to have a look at the website now, just finished installing the Innovv K5 camera system on my NC, this will probably be my last upgrade before my new bike arrives.
Nice job mate great sound and good video but I'm going to have to tell you off for riding in a T-Shirt .... " Dress for the slide not the Ride " ....
Yes fair enough fella👍just getting on and off was sweating like a pig, 25 degrees that day. But point taken 👍
Yes I agree with All the gear, All the time but I got heat exhaustion trying to do my CBT in 27 C heat and had to abandon it, so occasionally if you're going slow, it's your own personal decision, I think.
@Lily Northover getting on and off the bike 10 times to get the shots and walking over to the camera was horrible. Dripping with sweat, then I felt there was more chance me conking out due to the heat. On the way home I put all the gear on again. I just needed to draw the line or not make the video, video won 👍
It's important to be safe that includes not being ill. I know I couldn't concentrate and just wanted to rip the helmet off. I going to MTS in October to do it right 👍🏻
Oxford do a mesh jacket, it’s a good compromise between being safe on the bike and keeping cool.
Thanks for video. Inspired me to do same
Thanks Chris, I don't regret changing mine, around town is alot of fun, although it can get wearing on longer trips although I wear ear plugs and it's no issue then 👍🍻I say it's worth the money.
Cheers 🍺
Nice sounding exhaust there. Is it okay to leave on for MoT time as it no longer has a catalytic converter, or do you have to put the original back on for the test.
No, all is fine there, it's not part of the mot checklist👍
@@exeterrider Okay. That’s good to hear.
I've just got a dct nc750x. I had a black widow with decat on my previous bike and liked the quality. How do you find the bike on longer runs when you are holding the revs at motorway speed? Have you tried the exhaust with the baffle removed yet?
Hi Ben, motorway is fine and not annoying, but it does start to get wearing when going up and down hills etc for over an hour. Gets on my nerves a bit, but I wouldn't go back.
I've left the baffles in and not tried it without.
Its loud enough 🔊😅🍻👍
Brilliant vid ER, It's great seeing someone else getting their hands dirty aswell! 👍🙂
I'm in the market for a end can for my CB500F & really struggling to decide, but had the same theory as you, regarding the longer the quieter & the Akra's are unpronounceable & waaaaay too dear! 👍🤣
Ha, is rather learn French than learn how to pronounce AK. Mine is still pretty loud but happy with it, I would want it any other way.
Go for it mate, it changes the whole feel of the bike 👍👍🏍️
Sounds great 👍
Thanks 👆👍
How has the exhaust held up? Any issues with the engine running lean? Is the bike throwing any codes? I know that black widow claims that no modification is needed. Just trying to see from your perspective, thanks.
Hi, no issues at all. No error codes and the engine still seems happy.
The sticker is peeling off, apart from that, it's all good.
Sorry forgot to mention this but how is the mileage before and after if you kept record, thanks!
@@dovydasseirys7316 Exactly the same, now differance...if anything I'm getting better milage because it has slightly more power.
Dıd u improve more power / speed with the new setup
Great video!
Thanks Chris👍🙏
Nice video with perfect explanations mate ! Is it possible to keep the cat and just replace the OEM silencer with a slip-on ? 👌✌️
Yes you can! But from my experience from others , it will leave you wanting more. So i guess you could try the end can then if you want more then de-cat. Its all reversible whatever you do anyway.
@@exeterrider thanks for the answer ! I don't have that bike yet, I have a CB650R 2022 but planning on buying a NC750X to commute ( gas prices rising in France makes me thinking about fuel consumption now 😂) can you compare it to the cb650r in terms of position ?( If you ever tried it obviously)
Ride safe ! ✌️
CB650 is a nice bike but very much a small feeling bike and I think the NC will give you more ,and if you want to tour at any point then NC is the way to go. I am not fond of 4 cylinder engines anyway for road riding because they always want to be revved high, and you will eat gas compared to a 2 cylinder. You will want to move on from the 650 but not the NC. Its an old review but here is this one I made in the old days th-cam.com/video/9Z5kr7TYEc0/w-d-xo.html
Hi. Did you notice any difference in the bike's dynamic behavior, or was it just the noise level?
It feels like it has more, longer mid range power to me💪
@@exeterriderVery good 🫡🇵🇹
Has there been any down side, does this void warranty? Thanks great vid
Downside is on long journeys up and down hills it starts my tinitis off..
Manufacters will make any excuse to void warrantys.... I can't answer your question on that sorry to say you will have to ask your local dealer.
Ha ha sounds lovely,,,,my voge goes this week,(really not my cup of tea), and I’ve got a nc being delivered this week,, got a feeling I’m gonna have to Chuck one of these black widows on
was it the 500 you had Mark? yes the widows are cool!
@@exeterrider unfortunately no,,, I got one of the first 650dsx,s,,,, and just not my cup of tea,(massive understatement tbh), I’m hoping the nc750 means I can get back to enjoying bikes.
As long as it’ll get upto 85/90 ish I’ll be happy,, obviously I know the nc has it’s issues, but I think most of these can be sorted, whilst retaining its brilliance...
The many reviews seem to paint a very competent bike, which can be tweaked to be pretty damn good
@@marktaylor720 sorry to hear that Mark. As you probably saw the 650 feel short with the engine on the whole, but the fuelling as I mentioned ruined it.but the bike physically I thought was good. . I'm so pleased you're moving on to the nc, its not super exciting but I love mine and is the polar opposite of what you have been through with the 650.
Good Times are just around the corner again Mark. Stay in contact 🍻👍
@@exeterrider yeah absolutely,,,,I’m not sure if it’s the euro 5 spoiling the voge, or just a poor ecu, (I’ve followed the cf moto 890, that also seems to have poor fuelling), but the fuelling is dire,, and is absolutely spoiling what could be a half decent bike,, the service intervals are stupid too and was another nail in the bikes coffin for me.
Whats the update here Mark,,,,binned the 650?
Any problems with MOT or insurance? Full exhaust or can only? Tempted for my street triple , twin can however 2009
No issues with insurance and I made them aware of the upgrade. Full exhaust here hence "de-cat" It works for me . great fun.
sounds good ,, very harleyesque , very good price for all that kit ;;;
I am really pleased with it! puts a smile on my face when riding : )
Very nice I fitted just the end can,but seeing yours tempted to buy the other half now,are you changing the air filter at all say K &N, been told its wise to do so what's your thoughts ?
On balence I don't think I'll gain much from a new filter. I think the decat part was about 120. So I say it's worth buying that part. It makes a big difference 💯👆
just been on their web site £134 now
@@tonywilliamson4393 worth it💯👍
How does it sound with just the end can?
Only just seen this sorry, Its a little flat TBH
How did the exhaust hold up since the video was posted? Thinking about buying this kit depending on how durable it is :)
It's very good! The black widow sticker is coming off, but no corrosion as yet. So its all good.
Excellent!
Thanks Bob. Very kind 👍🍻
Thanks Bob. Very kind 👍🍻
Do you feel any power difference less power or more? In torque terms!
Very little, perhaps a little more power, but hardly anything!
Looks good.. Out of interest, can the Black Widow emblem on the silencer be removed?
Yes it does👍🍻
@@exeterrider Does that mean the emblem on the exhaust can be removed?
@@wozza59 yes it's just a sticker 👍
@@exeterrider That's good to hear - thank you.
I have side cases to deal with and was wondering what is the measurement from the ground to the uppermost point on the end of muffler. Thanks!
Sorry it took me a while to get back to you ...measurement is 53CM
Hello Sir, how is the fuel consumption and performance after the upgrade? Would love to know co’z im also considering this… Thanks and ride safe❤
It's good! more low end torque (slight) and i seem to be getting slightly better economy according to the MPG moniter im getting 8 mpg more on average .
Did you get the bolt, dome washer and spacer in the box for the rear silencer? Or did you re use the original items?
To my memory, it was the original items, but I seen to remember they supplied a longer bolt but can't be sure, sorry.
OK, thanks anyway. All I got in the kit was the big strap to fit round the silencer. I've emailed them incase there has been an oversight
@@chriscuthbertson4931 more I think about it, I'm pretty sure I did use the original fixings
Hi, I have bought an NC 750 X, 2015 from bridge, back in November, it has an SP engineering can on it, do you think it would benefit from a decat pipe? Thanks. 😎🏍👍😀
Hi Robert, yes maybe ,,,but before you do, just check it wont mess around with the tuning of the bike.....perhaps give SP a call to check!?
@@exeterrider Hi, thanks for that, I will give them a call. Cheers.
E joyed your vid good commentary.ride safe
Thankyou, I enjoyed making it 🍻
Getting a cat delete in the us seems impossible. Import maybe?
Black widow are made in the UK to my knowledge 🇬🇧👍
Like everything, well done, BUT, as the bike is now illegal ( no catalytic ), should you ever need a BIG claim it might be dismissed! Sorry to be a spoilsport, not intentional I can assure you!
It's not illegal, only the manufacters have to abide by such rules, but yes, I need to update the insurance and tell them 👍
Hiya mate, nice video thanks, Economy means a lot to me so can you tell me if there is any difference in miles per gallon with the new pipe fitted. Cheers.
It's slightly better in finding. I was getting around 75mpg but it's averaging 83 now. Perhaps it's because I've been using it mainly around town, either way I don't think I have lost any economy 👍🍻
@@exeterrider Thanks mate, Thats surprised me, cheers.
@@paulegan7250 me too, someone said to me it should give me more low end and economy. I disagreed but it seems I read wrong.
I've only done 100 miles since its been done mind so early days really.
Would the decat pipe section be compatible with other brand slip on exhausts?
Not sure tbh, but black widow are very helpful if you give them a call.
How do you think the rear shock would be with a pillion and full back box for touring Europe?
Is a tight squeeze of day. And a uncomfortable pillion seat for such a big trip
sounds decent that
Thanks 😊👍
The website states 14-22, any of you installed it on a 2021+ unit?
I was told by then at the time that it fits a 2021 plus, double check again with them though.
Did you keep the exhaust or was it too loud?
Kept it, and happier with it than with it. Eat plugs in longer rides is the key.
Dont you need to remap the ecu when removing the cat?
Black Widow have designed this around the stock map : )
Do you need to have it tuned after you replace can?
I asked Black Widow and they said no👍🍻
I found this, perhaps someone may care to comment.
Without a reconfigured engine management system, decatting can be extremely harmful to your vehicle. Without a catalyst and no back-pressure, the engine management system will try to recalculate the changes and allow more air into the engine. This can result in the engine fuel mixture becoming lean, meaning too much air and too little fuel.
This can potentially lead to your engine overheating and engine failure. However, a simple ECU remap can solve this problem.
I get where you're coming from and I asked Black Widow about this.
They have calibrated the can to a standard map so that's all looked after here.
Mine dosent seem to be running to rich or lean and I think Im getting more. MPGs👍🏃
Sweeeeet!!!
😎😉
Job's a good'un!
It is, I'm really pleased with it. Thanks 👍
Is it necessary to modify the ECU?
No, Black widow designed the can around the stock map.
nice one fitted nice well thought out by the company.
Rolley. :)
Indeed! They make it really easy!
Have you run it without the baffle in ?
No it's loud enough as it is tbh
No lean fueling trouble then?
No seems fine to me, and smells ok!?
Any issues with the decat?
None at all 👍
0:45 A-crap-o-vitch 😊
😁👍
Sounds like a bike now mate, not a scooter lol, shame there was no test without the baffle
Yes. I thought of it. But took ages to shoot and that's before the editing, so just wanted it done by then. Thanks mate, hope your well 👍
Which end can is this?
Same as the title, black widow
Congratulations on being able to make more noise! I hope everyone else will appreciate it as much as you, but I highly doubt it. Most people tend to hate other people's noise, did you consider that? I admit that it could have been far worse, but still, spending money on making unnecessary noise that bothers other people makes no sense to me. I own an NC750X myself with a stock exhaust. It makes all the noise I need, and my neighbors don't hate me, so I don't intend to change it.
Your right it's not that loud. And it does make drivers more aware of me which is a good thing.
Some exhausts are silly, certainly when they take the balls out. This is just louder in a sensible way 👍. But yes I do consider others for sure
@@exeterrider Out of curiosity, what will happen, if you get stopped by the Police? If I were to get stopped in Denmark, where I live, with a conversion like yours, I would receive a hefty fine. Perhaps, perhaps not for excessive noise, but certainly for removing the catalytic converter, that's illegal here (and not really environmentally friendly either, is it?) What are the rules in the UK about that?
@@olethorhermansen5696 as long as the baffles are in then your good here noise wise. DB wise it will pass the Mot. (yearly legal l safety checks)
So no issue here, but I know it would be a issue if I popped over to yours for a coffee😁👍
Let those who ride decide.
@@jamestorregrossa1185 👍
Sounds like a harley now, hehe
I hope not or Ive done it wrong 😂
Stock is better.
Fair enough, I prefer the widow👍
Noooo, don't remove the Cat, otherwise you are polluting a lot more.
Yes its like a private jet now. Is that Greta at the door?
@@exeterrider nah, not Greta but still :) I just got my own NC last month, will save some cash for a slip-on. But don't take the cat out, it has a lot of precious metals, (Pt, Pd, Rd) hence value. Plus it reduces NOx and oxidises CO, making your rides much cleaner.
@@dagger732 Motorbike's really don't cough out alot anyway. Just have what you want id say.
Slip on ares better but many say they wished they went the extra after just having a skip on. Just a thought 👍
That sir is a fruity pipe!
👆😉😉🙏👍
Are you wearing your new invisible kevlar jacket and gloves ?
You should be setting an example to me/ inexperienced riders.
When your hopping on and off the bike for 2 hours getting shots for the video on. 25 degree plus heat, then it gets too hot.
Got to be real about it and everyone understands this generally speaking.
I was in a quiet spot doing a 100 metre fly past.
On the way home I put all my gear on.
If I'm honest if people knew what goes into creating entertaining footage they would understand that 20 yards in a t-shirt isn't a problem.
Plus if a grown man cant make his own decisions and needs examples set by someone they don't know, perhaps they shouldn't be riding on the public road.
Just my opinion.
Exactly
That's not the point.
How long does it take to put a jacket and gloves on regardless of the temperature.
People will watch this vid and think of its ok for him its ok for me.
You have to think of the bigger picture.
@@SCOOPER3896 then those people shouldn't be able to spend time on a dangerous hobby if they are incapable of making their own decisions.
Exeter rider isn't the fashion police or the safety police, allow people to make their own decisions.
I've watched the borat movie but I've not once considered wearing a mankini
Why anybody would put a loud exhaust like this on a nc750x is beyond me 😂🤣 how embaressing!
😂👆I love it