i think this has great potential to be cute! there's a few things i think would benefit you to focus on 1. be picky about your chromaticism: your piece begins with some lovely chromatic figures, however since the whole instrumentation is playing all sorts of different chromatic figures, it can be hard to latch on to a simple melody. and this is despite the strong chord progression you have underneath. my recommendations for having chromaticism not sound dark is to approach notes from below, instead of from above. for example, your first melodic phrase goes from an A natural to an Ab, which sounds vaguely dark. but if it was a G to Ab, it may sound different. 2. despite its cliche, major REALLY is cute: to put it bluntly, your piece's B section sounds MAJESTIC and GORGEOUS. HOWEVER if your intent is to be cute, i'd recommend sticking to major key ideas, because with such an epic minor progression, it's impossible for it to not sound so large in scale 3. think about scale: not scales as in music scales, but as in SIZE. your orchestrations for the A section are small, and the B section they're large. this effect is honestly done REALLY REALLY well, kudos to you. but once again, the cuteness suffers from your orchestrations. think about what "cute" means to YOU. to me, cute is small, happy, and humorous. if your view of cuteness is different, don't be afraid to show it off 4. don't be afraid to romanticize your ideas: your orchestrations have a very regal and majestic sound, but i think another important skill in orchestration is romance. if you want a great example, study ravel's orchestrations on "la valse". the whole piece is basically a parody of waltzes, but it has some great insight on what makes a waltz sound like a waltz. you have REALLY impressed me with your PHENOMENAL orchestration skills and your creativity. keep that alive, and keep writing!
Thank you so much!! Those are some really good tips! You know, I was too afraid to approach Ravel's music because of how complex his harmonic language can be, but maybe I'll give La Valse a try soon!
I might need some help, I have trouble with writing orchestrated peices. I mostly write String orchestra and piano pieces. I only wrote one piano concerto and I have trouble coming up with ideas and how to make it sound good 😭
Some parts feel like a Broadway rom com, others feel like an epic fantasy tale. You did a really good job with cohesion in this because despite how incredibly different those two feelings are, it doesn't feel overly dissonant/jarring.
As a very fan of Shostakovitch, I must say that I am in love with this beautiful piece. Something in it weirds accents, in it growing magic and in it russian sounds remember modern russian classical music. I love it! Very nice, just continue !!! ❤❤❤ With my blessings I. , from Israël
As a classical composer myself, this is so beautiful. The First part supposedly to be cute. in the C# minor part is so longing, grandiose and a touch of little melancholic.
This is so quirky and animated! (In a good way- esp love the little playful flute at 1:21, you understand the texture of the different instruments really well)
Solid! I’d I had to give advice it would be utilize the brass section more! I know that may not be what you were going for this piece, but I think it can add a lot of color, I also think you struck the perfect balance between repeated music and new ideas within a piece! Great job!
There is a bit of ballet genre to this song. It also reminds me of the track Golem Court from Wizard101. Always good to know what sort of vibe your piece has.
How old is this composer? Soft waltz sounded well for me. Instruments were well picked and perfectly harmonized. Rhytm is right, sound level and music score dynamics were accurate. If you asked me what to improve more? I can say: 1. Transitions between the constituents; 2. Cadences. Try using the following structure as a basis, if you plan to edit your composition in the future. Match your music score parts with the following names. 1. prologue 2. exposition 3. Intro 5. rise of the action 6. climax 7. resolution and coda. Good luck 😅
@@schewts Haha, great for only 17. I'm 15 and arrange really often pieces for orchestra especially music of movies and musicals. But I tried two times so far to compose an own piece, but still a bit struggling with it :)
This was very good, and there were times when it sounded like the dance of an evil villain! This would be great for Halloween! Fantastic job, keep up the good work! :)
This is the slightly creepy carnival, or a high society masquerade where everything is not quite as it seems. It might not be quite what you were going for, but it is a great piece, nontheless!
You are very talented, you need to constantly improve your composition skills. I have spotted some minor issues with construction of dynamic and orchestration. Do you have any teachers?
When you want a roll on something like a tambourine, use a tremolo on the stem of the note instead of a trill. I'm not sure if that will translate to musescore's playback (or whatever you're using) but that's how it's most commonly written in modern music. Overall a great piece though!
@@schewts You could also use two grace notes instead of the short trill. Another change to percussion for me would just be using as little percussion parts as possible and putting in instrument changes (if whatever you're using allows for that). Usually in a symphonic setting you would have a timpanist just playing timpani and 2 other percussionists that may end up playing multiple instruments.
@@schewts You probably don't even need the glockenspiel part because it never really ends up playing with the celesta (obviously the timbre is a little different but most of the differences just boil down to celeste being easier to play fast stuff on). In my opinion you don't even need a bass drum and timpani for a piece like this because it really just doesn't get that intense. This is still a great piece though edit: I guess saying this isn't intense would be wrong. I find that writing for bass drum and timpani is only really effective if you really need a lot of percussiveness and drive, assuming you're not using timpani as a bass instrument.
I do harmonic analysis on difficult sections or passages that I really like when learning piano pieces (although I might not be able to deduce the more complex chords lol), and I often just watch videos on TH-cam to learn some more compositional techniques, Skylar Lim's videos are especially helpful imo
@mokieaaa When some of the parts sound bad I add text (Ctrl+T) to change the playing style and hope for the best. For example when writing solo violin, there's a problem where the AI does a glissando every single note, you can eliminate that by using Ctrl+T and changing the playing style to expressivo
It's probably because it's giving Mickey's castle of illusions background music more than cute waltz. One of the issues is the tempo being too fast. Slow it down to about 80-90 bpm. Introduce more of a somber happy sound or straight up classical notation and harmonies. For example, for Alto Saxophone because I'm horrible at transposing for instruments I don't play and aren't used to playing, I would play a melody like this. (The - represents a quarter note that is sustained basically, the space is the measure) G - - F# - - E - D# D - - G - - G# - - A - - - - - C - - C# - - E - D D B G B - - F# - - D - - - 𝄽 𝄽. The 2nd and 3rd is usually a sustaining of the 1st beats note, and as you know, on the 2nd and 3rd is when the 2 - 3! Harmonic background comes in to push that waltz feel. You really want a sentimental melody and you want to nail that melody before getting into any of the background stuff.
As a beginner composer who mainly composes for piano and is too afraid to even compose for any other instrument,I have to say your orchestration skills are really good,I enjoyed this waltz. Do you have discord or any other place to talk? I love talking to young and beginner composer who are just as dedicated as me!
@@Benatural1 Yes, My discord is the same as my TH-cam handle. Strangely enough, as one who plays piano, I feel much safer composing for orchestra than piano for some reason. I'm still working on making piano sound rich without way too much accompaniments, and actually making my pieces pianistic hahaha
@@schewts same here, lifelong pianist but very insecure when writing for piano. I´m always trying to add textures which sometimes end up making my pieces almost unplayable if I´m not careful
I wanted to know : how old are you ? And how did you learn writing classical music ? Im a very fan of it and I would wanted to know how to do it (despite I know I could not write as good as you)... someone who coulds help me please ?
@@IS-hk4fg Thanks for your support ! I'm turning 17 this year, and I started composing about one and a half year ago, started by writing really awful repeating 4-chord pieces, and gradually I learnt about different chords and stuff by analysing pieces and watching videos about composition on youtube. There are, however, still many things I'm not very good at, like modulation, structure, developing my ideas etc.
i think this has great potential to be cute!
there's a few things i think would benefit you to focus on
1. be picky about your chromaticism: your piece begins with some lovely chromatic figures, however since the whole instrumentation is playing all sorts of different chromatic figures, it can be hard to latch on to a simple melody. and this is despite the strong chord progression you have underneath.
my recommendations for having chromaticism not sound dark is to approach notes from below, instead of from above. for example, your first melodic phrase goes from an A natural to an Ab, which sounds vaguely dark. but if it was a G to Ab, it may sound different.
2. despite its cliche, major REALLY is cute: to put it bluntly, your piece's B section sounds MAJESTIC and GORGEOUS. HOWEVER if your intent is to be cute, i'd recommend sticking to major key ideas, because with such an epic minor progression, it's impossible for it to not sound so large in scale
3. think about scale: not scales as in music scales, but as in SIZE. your orchestrations for the A section are small, and the B section they're large. this effect is honestly done REALLY REALLY well, kudos to you. but once again, the cuteness suffers from your orchestrations. think about what "cute" means to YOU. to me, cute is small, happy, and humorous. if your view of cuteness is different, don't be afraid to show it off
4. don't be afraid to romanticize your ideas: your orchestrations have a very regal and majestic sound, but i think another important skill in orchestration is romance. if you want a great example, study ravel's orchestrations on "la valse". the whole piece is basically a parody of waltzes, but it has some great insight on what makes a waltz sound like a waltz.
you have REALLY impressed me with your PHENOMENAL orchestration skills and your creativity. keep that alive, and keep writing!
Thank you so much!! Those are some really good tips! You know, I was too afraid to approach Ravel's music because of how complex his harmonic language can be, but maybe I'll give La Valse a try soon!
@@schewts if you ever need someone to talk to about orchestration, im always down! i also recommend david bruce's video on la valse!
@@francoomarlopezlopez Alright! Thanks
Great and detailed feedback with explanation. I wonder how the piece would sound in the next edition.
I might need some help, I have trouble with writing orchestrated peices. I mostly write String orchestra and piano pieces. I only wrote one piano concerto and I have trouble coming up with ideas and how to make it sound good 😭
Tom and Jerry are dancing together and neither of them are happy about it
Lmao
wait why is this so perfect
60% cute
20% mischevous
20% epic
10/10 piece overall
Come on, I’ve danced to John Cage 4’33” before. Of course I can groove to this 🕺💃
the theme of a little cat exploring into a grand world... then coming back to its owner's house with a dead dragon's head in its mouth
@kal0reese 😂
very beautiful, and trying to write cutely and it ending up sounding a fantasy game soundtrack is so real!
this may not be cute per se but it definitely is a fire composition!
Some parts feel like a Broadway rom com, others feel like an epic fantasy tale. You did a really good job with cohesion in this because despite how incredibly different those two feelings are, it doesn't feel overly dissonant/jarring.
As a very fan of Shostakovitch, I must say that I am in love with this beautiful piece. Something in it weirds accents, in it growing magic and in it russian sounds remember modern russian classical music. I love it! Very nice, just continue !!! ❤❤❤
With my blessings
I. , from Israël
I can see this being part of an enemies to lovers scene but also sometimes it pans over to the comic relief
Incredible composition
Especially with the cymbals
Excellent work
As a classical composer myself, this is so beautiful.
The First part supposedly to be cute. in the C# minor part is so longing, grandiose and a touch of little melancholic.
Wow, this is amazing, hope this will get performed!
Nahh, I could frfr dance to this. I _AM_ dancing to this, its FIRE!!!
This is so quirky and animated! (In a good way- esp love the little playful flute at 1:21, you understand the texture of the different instruments really well)
I wish i could dance to this in a large flowy dress in my castle, especially at 2:36
I am very pleased to hear that :)
Solid! I’d I had to give advice it would be utilize the brass section more! I know that may not be what you were going for this piece, but I think it can add a lot of color, I also think you struck the perfect balance between repeated music and new ideas within a piece! Great job!
@@drewracer777 Thanks! And yes, I do feel I'm underutilising woodwind and brass instruments sometimes, being a string player myself lol
i would get 1950s style electroshock therapy to this (this is a compliment i love this sm)
sinister minstrel ministering to the broken cannister by the banister
bro what are you talking about this is actually a banger
There is a bit of ballet genre to this song. It also reminds me of the track Golem Court from Wizard101. Always good to know what sort of vibe your piece has.
this is great, I had to watch all your other videos after!
I know you ask for criticism, but there's none I personally can give- this is beautiful!!!
How old is this composer? Soft waltz sounded well for me. Instruments were well picked and perfectly harmonized.
Rhytm is right, sound level and music score dynamics were accurate. If you asked me what to improve more? I can say:
1. Transitions between the constituents;
2. Cadences.
Try using the following structure as a basis, if you plan to edit your composition in the future. Match your music score parts with the following names.
1. prologue
2. exposition
3. Intro
5. rise of the action
6. climax
7. resolution and coda.
Good luck 😅
Thanks! I'm turning 17 this year by the way
@@schewts Haha, great for only 17. I'm 15 and arrange really often pieces for orchestra especially music of movies and musicals. But I tried two times so far to compose an own piece, but still a bit struggling with it :)
This was very good, and there were times when it sounded like the dance of an evil villain! This would be great for Halloween! Fantastic job, keep up the good work! :)
Normal people: Wow triple forte is a lot!
Bizet: You underestimate my power 😈
You did a great job; I'm certainly revisiting this.
I love that you used many different types of percussions!
This is the slightly creepy carnival, or a high society masquerade where everything is not quite as it seems.
It might not be quite what you were going for, but it is a great piece, nontheless!
love the larghetto part!
Great composition!
Real talk tho this goes so hard
this is amazing thankyou for this
Cute or not, this sounds awesome!
Nice! This goes right in my playlist
it's very nice, keep it up 👏👏👏
Woooooow that reminds me so much of Prokofiev’s Cinderella
Great job!
Thanks!
Really nice work, if you keep it up then you'll be good enough to study at a conservatory soon enough :D
What app is this! This is so fine! I also have a thing for music, and what you did to the flutes is what amazes me!
Thanks! This is Musescore 4
It's amazing!
More danceable than La Valse by Ravel
You are very talented, you need to constantly improve your composition skills. I have spotted some minor issues with construction of dynamic and orchestration. Do you have any teachers?
@@kacperpaluchowski7910 Thanks, and no, I currently self learn composition
When you want a roll on something like a tambourine, use a tremolo on the stem of the note instead of a trill. I'm not sure if that will translate to musescore's playback (or whatever you're using) but that's how it's most commonly written in modern music. Overall a great piece though!
@sawyerfogarty Oh thanks!
@@schewts You could also use two grace notes instead of the short trill. Another change to percussion for me would just be using as little percussion parts as possible and putting in instrument changes (if whatever you're using allows for that). Usually in a symphonic setting you would have a timpanist just playing timpani and 2 other percussionists that may end up playing multiple instruments.
@@schewts You probably don't even need the glockenspiel part because it never really ends up playing with the celesta (obviously the timbre is a little different but most of the differences just boil down to celeste being easier to play fast stuff on). In my opinion you don't even need a bass drum and timpani for a piece like this because it really just doesn't get that intense. This is still a great piece though
edit: I guess saying this isn't intense would be wrong. I find that writing for bass drum and timpani is only really effective if you really need a lot of percussiveness and drive, assuming you're not using timpani as a bass instrument.
this reminds me of Esmeralda lol
So good. I saw you say you self-study, what resources do you use to learn composition?
I do harmonic analysis on difficult sections or passages that I really like when learning piano pieces (although I might not be able to deduce the more complex chords lol), and I often just watch videos on TH-cam to learn some more compositional techniques, Skylar Lim's videos are especially helpful imo
@schewts thanks 👍
Is there the person who knows about this software?
@@ソラマメ-l2w I use musescore 4
Love this
how did you get such a good sound on musescore?
@mokieaaa When some of the parts sound bad I add text (Ctrl+T) to change the playing style and hope for the best. For example when writing solo violin, there's a problem where the AI does a glissando every single note, you can eliminate that by using Ctrl+T and changing the playing style to expressivo
Super well done, that was lovely :)
Just wondering, is this the default MuseScore sounds? Or is this using a plugin?
@@maxwalsh9950 Yep, default musesounds
@ thank you :)
It's probably because it's giving Mickey's castle of illusions background music more than cute waltz. One of the issues is the tempo being too fast. Slow it down to about 80-90 bpm. Introduce more of a somber happy sound or straight up classical notation and harmonies.
For example, for Alto Saxophone because I'm horrible at transposing for instruments I don't play and aren't used to playing, I would play a melody like this. (The - represents a quarter note that is sustained basically, the space is the measure)
G - - F# - - E - D# D - - G - - G# - - A - - - - - C - - C# - - E - D D B G
B - - F# - - D - - - 𝄽 𝄽.
The 2nd and 3rd is usually a sustaining of the 1st beats note, and as you know, on the 2nd and 3rd is when the 2 - 3! Harmonic background comes in to push that waltz feel.
You really want a sentimental melody and you want to nail that melody before getting into any of the background stuff.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Thanks for your advices!
@schewts Oh, do you mind me recommending you a few pieces.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Please do!
Very nicely done, would be fun to perform. What did you use for midi sounds/samples?
Musesounds
this is cute except the parts that arent
Guys what app do you use for composition? (Also what app is he/she using)
@@kenma4764 I use musescore 4
As a beginner composer who mainly composes for piano and is too afraid to even compose for any other instrument,I have to say your orchestration skills are really good,I enjoyed this waltz.
Do you have discord or any other place to talk?
I love talking to young and beginner composer who are just as dedicated as me!
@@Benatural1 Yes, My discord is the same as my TH-cam handle. Strangely enough, as one who plays piano, I feel much safer composing for orchestra than piano for some reason. I'm still working on making piano sound rich without way too much accompaniments, and actually making my pieces pianistic hahaha
@schewts Great!
Maybe we should talk!
Just sent you a friend req.
@@schewts same here, lifelong pianist but very insecure when writing for piano. I´m always trying to add textures which sometimes end up making my pieces almost unplayable if I´m not careful
poor trombone players..😞
what music software do you use?
@MarcGisbertTerol musescore 4
I wanted to know : how old are you ? And how did you learn writing classical music ? Im a very fan of it and I would wanted to know how to do it (despite I know I could not write as good as you)... someone who coulds help me please ?
@@IS-hk4fg Thanks for your support ! I'm turning 17 this year, and I started composing about one and a half year ago, started by writing really awful repeating 4-chord pieces, and gradually I learnt about different chords and stuff by analysing pieces and watching videos about composition on youtube. There are, however, still many things I'm not very good at, like modulation, structure, developing my ideas etc.
@@schewtsHey I’m in a similar position, do have any good composition videos to recommend watching?
@@ozichi._. I like Skylar Lim's analysis and tutorials, they're clear and easy to understand