The biggest problem with this vehicle is its price. China already gets many good vehicles around 8.3 so it was not very attractive to the players. But after the Br change and with the anniversary discount this seems to become a very good vehicle to buy.
1:28 didn't gaijin mention on several occasions, that they do not care about how good/bad vehicle is, just how players on average perform in it? That would explain the lowering because of how bad average teams are.
Their fix about the bush packs from back then was to remove them. But keep all the same bushes except have them priced be individually. Instead of 500 GE for 6, it now costs 3000 GE for the exact same thing. Thanks Gajin.
@@serch3ster and this. Ppl don't ask for these type of bs. And gaijin is a company that is one of the most greedy out there. I mean they are Russians ffs. But we can see the hypocrisy when we have examples like Mikegoesboom. Makes a vid about how greedy they are, some months later is working for them. This is how ppl end up. Its like we all know its f ed but some people think if they don't join that they think they will be at a disadvantage and end up like Mike. This is the lvl of stupidity that makes gaijin 💰 🤑 💸. As long as retard keep on buying they will keep on enforcing that type of bs gameplay.
From the great minds that brought you such shit storms as “6.3 jumbo”, “3.3 R3-T20”, “3.7 Pnz. IV H”, and “8.0 PTL02” is proud to present: “Laserrange T-55 at 7.7” *crowd claps and cheers (anyone who disagreed mysteriously disappeared)*
The Pz. IV H at 3.7 is still worse than a T-34 1942. Glad they moved it at 4.0. Jumbo at 6.3 is just the result of strong front and all around turret armor and APHE makes low penetration negligible. IS-2 and Tiger II P have good firepower but are easier to kill for lower BR vehicles.
It was down BR because they added the Type 69-IIa which has two plane stabilizer and also superior armor protection. But i still using the Type 59-I in my 8.0 lineup still doing great.
@@prestigexv2151 it only has terrible stock APFSDS that pens less then the APDS the Type 59 gets and mediocre HEAT-FS at a BR where a lot of tanks already have ERA.
@@a.b.3455 The dart is pretty bad, you're not wrong, but you can still kill anything with it, and anything that might be hard, you can just barrel/breech and swap to HEAT. But the extra turret traverse, 2-plane stab and laser rangefinder makes up for the poor dart. Also there isn't really that much ERA, only on the M60s in full uptiers, but even then, you can just shoot turret ring, or breech on the T-62M/T64.
The type 62 can widthstand hits to the of the turret from teh Leo 2A6 because it has 600+mm of protection there. So obviously that's the most powerfull chinese tank.
you're probably mistaking it with all the others t-54/55 we have in game, personally the only vehicle based on it's chassis that seem bugged right now is the Type-62. I only have the TT Type-59 so im unsure about the premium but I don't usually bounce a lot of shots.
Ironically while watching this I too was hit with constant lag and slow internet speed providing a wonderful mindfuck on whether the lag was me or your video recording. Also, play the E-100 for funzies.
APHE oneshots in generally completely outweigh the much lower penetration compared to much higher penetrating rounds that deal less damage. It’s like an AWE in Counterstrike. You might not hit (pen) but you often can kill in one shot, immediately negating the danger. For this I‘d like to advertise the amazing Italian AS 42/47. I completely forget this tank was added, if it wasn’t for the patch note that increased its RoF. It has pretty low penetration but the postpen damage of the Italien 47mm is just crazy for the caliber. Almost on par with a 88mm Pzgr. 39.
Hey Spookston, will you do a video on the Wiesel? I've been finding myself having a lot of fun with it at 7.3, rushing and capping a point and typically killing 3-5 light tanks before dying. Just zipping along the map killing IFV's and what not.
@@jonhg92 Its honestly better at the higher tier tbh, because of all the IFV's. The laser range finder and thermals is great too, you can flank the enemy very easily and start putting rounds into thin skinned vehicles from distance perfectly.
i would love to see you make a video about the magach 3 era, i dont know if its just me, but its seems to handle kinetic shots better aswell. got enough sp for a nuke for the first time in that thing too :)
Could you do the Object 120? Just bought it yesterday and it absolutely seal clubs anything at 7.3, more than half of my games so far have been 1 br down tiers, the thing is legit the perfect tank. Trolly armed, laser point-click gun, great maneuverability, and auto loader.
The teams are either: A. Gigachads B. Virgins C. Make the AI look intelligent 90% of the time it's C Edit: No, it's not the internet. It's Gaijin's Hamsters starving to death.
The BMP-2M and the 2S38 need to be put up to 10.7; its asinine that Gaijin thinks its ok for them to be as low as they are. The TURMS also needs to go to 10.0.
In China we have a joke about the ZTZ59 since it, toghether with the Soviet T-54/55, has been used extensively in the Third World and quite a lot of them have been extremely modified: "Look! That's a space warship! " "Nah. You see, it has 2 pairs of propelling engines and 5 pairs of stablizing engines. It's a Type 59ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ which is the latest modified version of the whole series. "
@@ideadlift20kg83 now that more people play chinese cause of the sales, i am sure it will, it was probably only this low br, because of low player numbers, but their wheely boys are so good, that i don't even mind being uptiered as much, when playing chinese, compared to other nations
I remember when the T-10M was at 7.7 or some shit back in like 2015 😂 so in a Tiger 2 you could face the T-54, IS3/4, and T-10M all in a full uptier (or gaijin would downtier them if you were really lucky) not to mention that’s when ATGM’s were first introduced lol, 6.7 was almost unplayable at that time.
Honestly whats worse is that this community does absolutely nothing to make Gaijin stop using "statistics" to balance vehicles rather than their capabilites.
Vehicle goes down in BR because TeAms aRnT gReAt....Gaijin Logic #1 couldnt be because Gaijin incentivizes new players buying high tier vehicles. YES WAR THUNDER IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY NOW
Im like 95% sure that it went down in BR because it is paired with the T-69G II and the WMA301 The squadron vehicle is pretty recent and the T-62 is rarely sold
i have a question, since when gaijin change the br of premium veicle? i remember something like (we will never change the premium br because reasons), they have made a u turn as always?
I stopped playing war thunder when drones came out and it looks like not much has changed lol -terrible servers -broken br prem tanks -t32 still nerfed into oblivion -tier V Russian players still lack brain cells Not playing the game anymore but still enjoying your videos spookston keep up the good work man been watching for a while keep up the good work man👍
Honestly feel the Chinese WMA301 and PTL02 are more op due to the combination of gen 2 thermals, two-plane stabilizer, laser rangefinder and extremely good darts
I feel like I’m missing something with the Obj 906. I’ve had a few good games in it but nothing special. Maybe just me. I love everything else in the BMP tree
Still enjoying the 100 backups on the chinese bulldog?
No :(
Lmao
I have 55 backups on the T-35
@@Spookston what are you down to?
@@cameroncarley7958 98
4:05 Spooks just flawlessly replicated the “huh” SFX to the point I though it was the actual SFX and not him.
ye that actually caught me offguard for a second, fucking minecraft villager lmao
we need a minecraft villager mod that just has them make Spookston sounds
@@jammygamer8961 yes
The biggest problem with this vehicle is its price. China already gets many good vehicles around 8.3 so it was not very attractive to the players. But after the Br change and with the anniversary discount this seems to become a very good vehicle to buy.
I was about to buy WMA but now idkkk this tank looks good
@@paulbrown3302 I would recommend 692G if its contained in the bundle this time. WMA could be very bad at some maps.
@@sheffieldshen148 agreed, a rear-mounted turret isn't all it's cracked up to be
@@paulbrown3302 the WMA is amazing I would suggest picking it up. Especially when you get the full 8.3 Chinaman roster unlocked.
@@paulbrown3302 wma all the way man. trust me i have both. Wma thermal dowtier 7.3 or 7.7 is a higher advantsge.
1:28 didn't gaijin mention on several occasions, that they do not care about how good/bad vehicle is, just how players on average perform in it? That would explain the lowering because of how bad average teams are.
Correct, the laziest and most fucking stupid "Solution" to balancing they could have done. So glad I stop playing this shit.
They did. And that's how they "balance"
Weirdly the Chinese teams I get are quire good
yeah and this is why brs are so wacked
Yes and its absolutely bullshit and its horrible that the community does absolutely nothing to make them stop doing this shit.
4:14 this is why bushes are rediculous- you cannot tell what it is or where you're shooting the tank
What, you don't like fighting an angry pile of foliage?
@@XanderTuron Nobody here but us trees! XD
well thats why they did it to make more garbage gameplay.
Their fix about the bush packs from back then was to remove them. But keep all the same bushes except have them priced be individually. Instead of 500 GE for 6, it now costs 3000 GE for the exact same thing. Thanks Gajin.
@@serch3ster and this. Ppl don't ask for these type of bs. And gaijin is a company that is one of the most greedy out there. I mean they are Russians ffs. But we can see the hypocrisy when we have examples like Mikegoesboom. Makes a vid about how greedy they are, some months later is working for them. This is how ppl end up. Its like we all know its f ed but some people think if they don't join that they think they will be at a disadvantage and end up like Mike. This is the lvl of stupidity that makes gaijin 💰 🤑 💸. As long as retard keep on buying they will keep on enforcing that type of bs gameplay.
From the great minds that brought you such shit storms as “6.3 jumbo”, “3.3 R3-T20”, “3.7 Pnz. IV H”, and “8.0 PTL02” is proud to present: “Laserrange T-55 at 7.7”
*crowd claps and cheers (anyone who disagreed mysteriously disappeared)*
Or EBR 1954 on 6.3 without shell from 5.0 (French Sherman with same cannon)
Anyone remember when Gaijin wanted to move the M48A2 C from 7.0 to 6.7?
Remember when fv4202 is 6.0???? I remember lmao😂
The Pz. IV H at 3.7 is still worse than a T-34 1942. Glad they moved it at 4.0.
Jumbo at 6.3 is just the result of strong front and all around turret armor and APHE makes low penetration negligible. IS-2 and Tiger II P have good firepower but are easier to kill for lower BR vehicles.
the jumbo was 6.3? The fuck?
It was down BR because they added the Type 69-IIa which has two plane stabilizer and also superior armor protection.
But i still using the Type 59-I in my 8.0 lineup still doing great.
the type 59 (tech tree version) was originally 7.7 but was moved to 8.0 later up until now
i guess history really is just a circle
The tech tree one doesn't have a laser rangefinder, so it's a bit more justified
It's funny because i think the Type 69, which is higher in BR now. Is objectively worse.
@@a.b.3455 No, the type 69 is far better, it has a two plane stabiliser and a much faster turret traverse, so much more usable.
@@prestigexv2151 it only has terrible stock APFSDS that pens less then the APDS the Type 59 gets and mediocre HEAT-FS at a BR where a lot of tanks already have ERA.
@@a.b.3455 The dart is pretty bad, you're not wrong, but you can still kill anything with it, and anything that might be hard, you can just barrel/breech and swap to HEAT. But the extra turret traverse, 2-plane stab and laser rangefinder makes up for the poor dart. Also there isn't really that much ERA, only on the M60s in full uptiers, but even then, you can just shoot turret ring, or breech on the T-62M/T64.
Spookston just received +10.000.000 social credit points for that upload. Still pales in comparison to what Gaijin got for the BR changes
Screw china money Mossad gives me a fat $0.10 for every Magach I unlock
@@CheezeSpartan We're talking about Mossad, so Israel, so Jews. Must be a little more than $0.10 xD
Spookston still using the American Generals music while driving a Chinese tank hurts my soul a little. [China] Battle Theme 2 is right there man!
"Corpses make things so inconvenient" -Spookston 2022
5:28 in addition to the BR reduction, we have also made changes to the Camouflage options for certain vehicles
5:10
*teleports behind player*
"nothing personal, kid"
this thing is so much fun and very effective at grinding
its only major downside is constantly losing cause teams suck
7.7 with a lazer rangefinder is just crazy
Sweden with laser rangerfinder and 400 mm pen HEAT at 7.0
@@MareWT its armour paper tho, without stabilizer and an awful post pen damage because of being 90mm HEAT
@@danko8983 but stll has a lazer. thats just crazy
@@MareWT SEVEN POINT FECKIN ZERO
Yes, like how the STB-1 use to be
The type 62 can widthstand hits to the of the turret from teh Leo 2A6 because it has 600+mm of protection there. So obviously that's the most powerfull chinese tank.
This tank has some of the buggiest armor when I fight it for some reason.
Same brother
that's just you. It's just a point click boom and it's dead most of the time.
Tell it to the first leopard. That crap just bounce shells that should overpen it and fly out of its ass. )
you're probably mistaking it with all the others t-54/55 we have in game, personally the only vehicle based on it's chassis that seem bugged right now is the Type-62. I only have the TT Type-59 so im unsure about the premium but I don't usually bounce a lot of shots.
i think it's just all T54/55, even the soviet ones
type 59 casually dogfighting f22s
It’s indestructible
-thermonuclear bombs
4:12 least bushed war thunder player.
I've begun to grind china, and, while it is a bit of copy and paste, I think it's a very underrated tree.
Spookston saying "we" is the closest I'll get to being good at this game
Spookston can you do a video covering the CV90 family?
Whenever you get "bad internet" im pretty sure it just gsijin trying to put the blame on your internet instead of their servers
Ironically while watching this I too was hit with constant lag and slow internet speed providing a wonderful mindfuck on whether the lag was me or your video recording. Also, play the E-100 for funzies.
4:05 Spokston has been watching too many warthunder shorts, he's starting to adopt their language lol
1:00 I recently shot at a panther with an ISU-122 and the only reason the panther didn't die was because some wood and cloth stopped the shell
I take this with my Chinese 8.3 line up which has got to be the most OP 8.3 line up in the game
Picked this thing up on your recommendation o7
Nothing happened in 1989
My suburban was made in 89
No, sorry, it's an 89 model year but it was technically made in 88
I’d like to see you play the Warrior or any 7.3 - 8.0 British vehicle!!
for christs sake yet another thing I'll see regularly in my Pershing that I won't be able to kill, as if the udertiered russian scourge wasn't enough
You should do a video about ,,what if the STRVs were historically accurate’’ (the S-tank)
APHE oneshots in generally completely outweigh the much lower penetration compared to much higher penetrating rounds that deal less damage. It’s like an AWE in Counterstrike. You might not hit (pen) but you often can kill in one shot, immediately negating the danger.
For this I‘d like to advertise the amazing Italian AS 42/47.
I completely forget this tank was added, if it wasn’t for the patch note that increased its RoF.
It has pretty low penetration but the postpen damage of the Italien 47mm is just crazy for the caliber. Almost on par with a 88mm Pzgr. 39.
Vertical stabilized, Laser rangefinder, APHE, APDS, Armor
Diffidently deserves the same BR as the AMX 30 which has none of those things
i like the sideskirts on the chinese tanks, it makes the soviet tanks look more nice
Flying Type-59 tank
Playing Chinese tank and not using Chinese soundtrack from Generals but using USA one just feels weird.
The T-69 II G is a beast btw
"oh These corpses are so inconvenient"
-Spookston 2022
Hey Spookston, will you do a video on the Wiesel? I've been finding myself having a lot of fun with it at 7.3, rushing and capping a point and typically killing 3-5 light tanks before dying. Just zipping along the map killing IFV's and what not.
I dont fully understand why that sits at 7.3(7.0?) when r3 t20 is 5.0
@@jonhg92 Its honestly better at the higher tier tbh, because of all the IFV's. The laser range finder and thermals is great too, you can flank the enemy very easily and start putting rounds into thin skinned vehicles from distance perfectly.
@@valiant545 oh sure. Its just that i dont think gaijin knows this and they are out of touch
@@jonhg92 Oh for sure. The Wiesel is fine, the R3 needs to go up
i would love to see you make a video about the magach 3 era, i dont know if its just me, but its seems to handle kinetic shots better aswell. got enough sp for a nuke for the first time in that thing too :)
I’d love for you to play the ARL-44. Not the 76mm one, the post war 90mm one.
I remember seeing this thing pop up in one of the BR changes lists back then and this is honestly kinda funny
Could you do the Object 120? Just bought it yesterday and it absolutely seal clubs anything at 7.3, more than half of my games so far have been 1 br down tiers, the thing is legit the perfect tank. Trolly armed, laser point-click gun, great maneuverability, and auto loader.
It used to be 7.7 but was moved down for now really reason.
Russia 7.3 has a lot of downtiers
Meanwhile the t95e1 is at 7.7 america suffers
Could you take a look at the ZTZ99-III
Play the jpz 4-5, really fun to play, even got a nuke with it the other day
The teams are either:
A. Gigachads
B. Virgins
C. Make the AI look intelligent
90% of the time it's C
Edit: No, it's not the internet. It's Gaijin's Hamsters starving to death.
you should play r3 t106 FA next
I have a moral objection to it but sure
@@Spookston i misspelled r3 106 FA, mb
China at 7.7 to 8.7 is the worst to go against.
China has the strongest line ups in the game at that br
They have like two 7.7 tanks though
“Agh, these corpses are SO inconvenient…”
I’ve been liking the Italian 7.7 lineup with the of40, r3 recoilless, and the premium m60a1
Play the BMP-2M, now that it gets tracking for planes its a decent spaa, especially with the HE missiles for helis
wait... it got autotrack ?
The BMP-2M and the 2S38 need to be put up to 10.7; its asinine that Gaijin thinks its ok for them to be as low as they are. The TURMS also needs to go to 10.0.
@@fire_drake12.arc.24 agreed
I own the 3 of these and they're completely busted
@@desertfalcon1539 Bradley, BMP-2M, Puma got auto track.
@@desertfalcon1539 i don't own the 2S38 but you don't exactly need to play it to look at it and know it's capabilities
yes, the G6 scares me too
In China we have a joke about the ZTZ59 since it, toghether with the Soviet T-54/55, has been used extensively in the Third World and quite a lot of them have been extremely modified:
"Look! That's a space warship! "
"Nah. You see, it has 2 pairs of propelling engines and 5 pairs of stablizing engines. It's a Type 59ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ which is the latest modified version of the whole series. "
nothing happend in Tiananmen Square that is related to this tank lulw
Spookston, what BR would sino-american Jaguar be if they'd introduce it?
can you make a video about the 2S3M maybe?
@@snazzydazzy what? 2s3m is not 2s38 you know that right?
@@snazzydazzy dude what are you talking about I am saying a video on the artillery tank 2S3M not the new one
Oh the G6 is terrifying. I was in a Banshee and it shot me out of the sky while I was dogfighting.
chinese tanks generally have a to low br, i love my ptl and wma, but i feel so dirty using them when i get a 7.3 match
THey will likely go up in BR during this BP or after. The T34 1942 went up to 4.0 because people abused it last BP.
@@ideadlift20kg83 now that more people play chinese cause of the sales, i am sure it will, it was probably only this low br, because of low player numbers, but their wheely boys are so good, that i don't even mind being uptiered as much, when playing chinese, compared to other nations
I remember when the T-10M was at 7.7 or some shit back in like 2015 😂 so in a Tiger 2 you could face the T-54, IS3/4, and T-10M all in a full uptier (or gaijin would downtier them if you were really lucky) not to mention that’s when ATGM’s were first introduced lol, 6.7 was almost unplayable at that time.
Funny how literally nobody talks about how overpowered/donwtiered most of the "chinese" vehicles are.
Honestly whats worse is that this community does absolutely nothing to make Gaijin stop using "statistics" to balance vehicles rather than their capabilites.
I liked the BR change for the American AA, at a minimum
3:29
I wasn't there when the T32 was 6.7, but I remember when they were 7.0. Then they added the T32E1 at the same BR, didn't last long though lol.
I'm fairly confident it was introduced at 7.0, I think he's misremembering
@@Jayhawker32 That's what I was thinking at first, but I wasn't for sure. Thanks for clarifying fellow Jake.
Vehicle goes down in BR because TeAms aRnT gReAt....Gaijin Logic #1 couldnt be because Gaijin incentivizes new players buying high tier vehicles. YES WAR THUNDER IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY NOW
Im like 95% sure that it went down in BR because it is paired with the T-69G II and the WMA301
The squadron vehicle is pretty recent and the T-62 is rarely sold
i have a question, since when gaijin change the br of premium veicle? i remember something like (we will never change the premium br because reasons), they have made a u turn as always?
My guess is that lots of chinese noobs are buying this and dropping the stats
Another example of why balancing should be done based on the vehicles capabilities rather than "statistics" and "the teams arent that good"
This thing is one of the reasons I have to play the China tech tree
Can't believe some tanks in WT have more bushes than an unshaven pubescent kid
This is my cue to stay away from 6.7 - 7.7
Their wheelies are completely OP too
As -PRC- China line had -no- few premium vehicle
So should i buy the Type59 100m or that balloon LT?
I think the new update goofed the servers tbh
And there goes the enemy of all online gamers: General Hi Ping
I know you don't like playing leopards but try the leopard 2av, in my opinion it's the worst leopard in the game
im going to bring Vickers Mk 1 to my line up now
I stopped playing war thunder when drones came out and it looks like not much has changed lol
-terrible servers
-broken br prem tanks
-t32 still nerfed into oblivion
-tier V Russian players still lack brain cells
Not playing the game anymore but still enjoying your videos spookston keep up the good work man been watching for a while keep up the good work man👍
I'd say the WMA is probably more busted then this thing.
I'd love to see you try the conqueror
i love you spookston
What are you guys more scared of? G6 or FV4005
Chi ri?
What about the sk60 now being at 7.0 . Having a guided missile at that BR is just something else
Because its huge and struggles to even reach its top speed of like 700kmh. What about SU-11 at 7.0.
@@serch3ster has one 500kg bomb, all rounds dissapear after you click twice, wings break like chopsticks.
Sk60 has either the 2 big nords then no guns. Or just 300 rounds with no tracers
Honestly feel the Chinese WMA301 and PTL02 are more op due to the combination of gen 2 thermals, two-plane stabilizer, laser rangefinder and extremely good darts
I would like to see you playing the VBC (PT2) I cannot imagine how that thing could survive in 8.7 with just a 25 mm autocannon.
can you play the T25
I feel like I’m missing something with the Obj 906. I’ve had a few good games in it but nothing special. Maybe just me. I love everything else in the BMP tree
@@petrkdn8224 The 4 secs auto loader always catches me off guard
@@petrkdn8224 yeah I played it and spaded it but kinda hated it.
@@petrkdn8224 being amphibious is probably one of the most useless thing I'm unsure why even mention it, also .50's shred it
You should try playing IPM1. It's a very good tank if you play it correctly. The 5 seconds reload + M900 is absolutely amazing
i had the same issue with the their servers , funny thing is the moment i go CAS the server starts choking
I'd highly suggest the BMP-1. I got stomped my whole way up the Soviet tree until that point. The BMP-1 just dominates most everything
I have had some connection issues lately as well. Still can't believe this thing went down to 7.7 though.
Whats up with the ddos attacks you referenced
T32 6.7? I think you're misremembering there Spook, it's been 7.0+ since it was added
Glad I'm not the only one having server issues.
I'd love to see you play the M4A4 (SA50) and/or M4A1 (FL10).
Just to let you know, I didn't skip ads for this one.
Better be a good video.
:le-pepe-meme:
I almost got a heart attack seeing the M106 (brrrr SPAA) at 7.7
Truly a shitty BR system moment.