Why Did Everyone Forget About This Rare Mustang? - 1971 Ford Mustang BOSS 351

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  • @rarecars3336
    @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Which boss would you take if you could only have one? 🤔
    BOSS 302
    BOSS 351
    BOSS 429

  • @johnsmith-js9nv
    @johnsmith-js9nv ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Cleveland. One of the best Ford engines ever made.

  • @ytpaletot1
    @ytpaletot1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had a classmate, in France, in 1971, and her father sometimes came to pick her up with this car; we were stunned, with our friends!!! It was a very rare car at the time!!!

  • @mcm95403
    @mcm95403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In 1971 a neighbor down the street bought a bright red BOSS 351. We used to ride our bikes down the street and just stare at it. That was one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen in my 60 years.

  • @thomasbaker1961
    @thomasbaker1961 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Graduated high school in’69 and my first job was a food market delivery boy. The other delivery boy got a Boss 302 for a graduation present, it was super sweet!

  • @rodmoore1577
    @rodmoore1577 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In 1972 a man would pass by our house everyday a little past 5 driving a red Boss 351 with the black accents. I made sure I was outside everyday to watch him drive by. To this day that is my dream car. I just want to say to him whoever he was or wherever he is thanks for the memories. This was in Texarkana Texas

  • @mikewasfaret9563
    @mikewasfaret9563 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    They did not have 4 valve heads. The 4V stood four 4 barrel carburetor. Although the four barrel heads were huge!

    • @jasmith1867
      @jasmith1867 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The narrators expert credentials got busted on that blooper.

    • @badass6.0powerstroke10
      @badass6.0powerstroke10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It actually meant 4 Venturis in the Carburetor, hence the "V"

    • @daveridgeway2639
      @daveridgeway2639 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@badass6.0powerstroke10 Correct!

    • @matrox
      @matrox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeh...I said to myself WTF? Was I missing something all these years?

    • @mid-westbigfootresearchers8665
      @mid-westbigfootresearchers8665 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactly~

  • @troyday5887
    @troyday5887 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In Australia we got the R code 351 in our 1971 falcon GTHO phase 3.which made it the fastest 4 door production car in the world at the time.

    • @m42037
      @m42037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Naturally aspirated unlike most supercars today that are supercharged, not a fair comparison

    • @edwinyoung2719
      @edwinyoung2719 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The gtho falcon was no joke … i like those cars and im not from aus

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I owned a '70 Mach I with the 351 Cleveland 4V engine when I was in H.S. in '74...my Dad was a Rocket Engineer out at Cape Canaveral and an old Ford guy. We (He with me helping/learning) blue printed the engine and converted it to a mechanical cam. We were both surprised and pleased when we tore the engine down to find a 4 bolt main block. At that time we just assumed the Cleveland 4V came with 4 bolts but as time has gone by I have understood only the Boss came with 4 bolts. I don't know what happened on the assembly line but a 4 bolt block got put in my car. Anyway during the blue print we upgraded the engine with the normal period parts, forged pistons at 11.75:1, bigger cam, intake, carb and headers...she pulled 525 HP on the dyno. Those 4V heads really flowed.

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Grew up 200+ miles south of you in Ft. Lauderdale. Bought my 71' Mach 1 in 1982 for $2300. from an old guy who lost his son in Vietnam, it was his son's car, took 2 years to get him to sell it. Had the best time of my life racing it at the Hollywood Speedway, off of Hollywood Blvd. in Pembroke Pine's. Then came life and had to sell it, biggest mistake. should've sold the wife instead!

    • @stevefowler2112
      @stevefowler2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benjisterchi5195 cool story...i my '70 from a credit bureau in Brevard county it had a damaged drivers door...i offered $600 and they declined and then a couple weeks later accepted. It had been repossessed from the Carolina's. Me and my best friend replaced the drivers door with a junk yard door. The weird thing about the car was it had a switch in it that turned off the brake lights, so we suspected it may have been a illegal liquor transport car.

  • @williamfoster9039
    @williamfoster9039 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't forget this Mustang! Not now, not 20-30 years ago!!😁👍🛠️⚒️🔧

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The 351 Clevo is a legend.

  • @derektrieglaff9103
    @derektrieglaff9103 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had a buddy in the mid 90's who had a neighbor, that had a chartreuse Boss 351 with silver hood and side stripes... ROTTING into the ground. Covered with about 200 lbs of pine needles and bird crap. I'm not a ford or mustang guy... but, that was a sad sight.

    • @georgehuerta1990
      @georgehuerta1990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that would be a sad side I don’t really care for that mustang myself but man that car doesn’t deserve that put it in the paper and give it away to a father and son and make that a project car for the son. And to keep that car alive and not just let it rot away

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 ปีที่แล้ว

      there are a lot of guys around that are doing that, I know of a 1970 Cuda 340 6 pack that was scraped after years of buyers wanting to buy it. The owner just refused to sell.

    • @georgehuerta1990
      @georgehuerta1990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mylanmiller9656 that sucks I hate owners like that me personally if I’m not gonna do anything with it I just can’t afford to do anything with it I’d rather pass it on to somebody else that’s going to keep the car alive. There was a 1995 Ford F150 that I have seen at this one house for years just sitting there on flats really nice body and everything went and asked the owner if he wanted to sell it and he told me know that the truck is just gonna sit there that was his first truck and that he just rather have it rot out and all I could do was just shake my head and walk away.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@georgehuerta1990
      I've seen so many cars like that go to waste sitting around behind barns and garages usually under tarps which is bad for them in their own way if you don't uncover them regularly and let them air out, cars I've watched sit since I was a little kid in the 70's that nothing gets done with them until the owner dies and his family sells it and by then they're reduced to just being worth parts because the frames and floor pans and just about every panel and door are rotted through.
      And it was the same thing with every one of those guy's for the decades they had them parked rotting away, "One day I'm gonna do something with it", after the first decade they should come to terms with the fact that they're not going to and get it to a good home before it's too late.

    • @georgehuerta1990
      @georgehuerta1990 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dukecraig2402 you’re absolutely correct it’s sad to see such iconic cars from every brand just sit in a field or in a garage rotting away. Let them go let someone else that wants to put the love into them and bring them back to life.

  • @BigBoss1292
    @BigBoss1292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The 71-73 fastbacks are hands down my favorite Mustangs…I adore all the ones that preceded it, but something about these cars just look better in my opinion and the Boss 351 is one of the coolest muscles cars ever made

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the BOSS 351, great video.
    Back in 1982 my older Cousin had a Grabber Blue BOSS 351, the only modification was a timing gear set that replaced the chain.
    That engine with the timing gear set had a totally unique sound all its own.

  • @tonywestvirginia
    @tonywestvirginia ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just love the 71-73 Mustangs! (71 most) I'll take a "Flat backer" any day!

  • @ralphthomas7868
    @ralphthomas7868 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A ball buster that punched well above its weight

    • @alanmichaelbourdon
      @alanmichaelbourdon ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1974 AMC Javelin with the Typhoon 401 had 5 hp less than the legendary Firebird SD455. Also the Javelin could be had with a 3:91 rear end all the way to a 5:1

  • @Tshade67
    @Tshade67 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My uncle bought a '71 Boss 351 right after he returned from Vietnam where he served as a Marine. It was white with black stripes and black interior. Unfortunately it was an automatic but still would get up and go. I remember him talking about the aftermarket/day 2 performance parts it had but I was only 4 or 5 years old at the time and the only thing I remember for sure was headers and a larger Holley carburetor. It may have had an aftermarket intake manifold, not sure about that. I also remember going to the drag strip with him and him running it. If my memory serves me right it ran somewhere in the 11s with street tires and would levitate the left front tire a couple of inches in the air on launch. I do have a pic of that somewhere and you can clearly see daylight under it. We both wish it was still in the family.
    BTW it was a daily driver and was driven to and back home from the track. I do remember he had some sort of exhaust dump he uncapped at the track, but it was still loud with the full exhaust.

    • @DonDrogowski
      @DonDrogowski ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No such thing as a Boss 351 with an automatic from the factory.

    • @stacyhazelwood4033
      @stacyhazelwood4033 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DonDrogowski I thought the same thing when I read the post. I could be wrong, but I thought ALL Boss 351 cars were 4 speeds.

    • @DonDrogowski
      @DonDrogowski ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Boss 302 and Boss 429 were also only 4-spd from the factory.

    • @Kgio-2112
      @Kgio-2112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DonDrogowskiyea, when I saw automatic I was like. Ok. Yea. Sure it was

    • @stevefisette1709
      @stevefisette1709 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I ordered a Grabber Blue 1971 Boss when I was in Viet-Nam. It was in the dealer's lot when I got home. Beautiful and fast.

  • @-POISON-
    @-POISON- ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always loved this body style. Boss 351 or Mach 1 are the ones to have.

    • @scottslater-nb5ch
      @scottslater-nb5ch ปีที่แล้ว

      4v means 4 Venturi the amount of carby throats Ford Australia's version the HO engine produced 385 HP with 780 Holley.

  • @stevejarred6484
    @stevejarred6484 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even though I grew up more of a GM & Chrysler guy, I do have a soft spot for this era of Mach I and Boss Mustang. Growing up in suburban Detroit, seeing one of these cars in silver over Ford blue always gave me a good feeling like I was cheering for the Detroit Lions!

  • @ox-cetane4887
    @ox-cetane4887 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boss 351 engines also had an oiling problem. they oil the cam before the crankshaft. Smart Ford guys corrected the problem

  • @terrywalchuk4793
    @terrywalchuk4793 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Boss 351 engine one of ford better ideas truly a remarkable engine the baddest of the small blocks of the 70’s

  • @johnlambert7056
    @johnlambert7056 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a kid living in a trailer park walking by and saw one. It became a dream car for back in 71 . My 71 black with argent ( silver ) . One of one ! Low in numbers between 600-700 . Most valuable .

  • @txboss2318
    @txboss2318 ปีที่แล้ว

    All time 2nd favorite Mustang. I've never owned one, but I did own a 71 429 SCJ 4 speed and a 71 351 4V 4 speed convertible and loved them both. My all time favorite is the 2013 Boss 302. A street beast!

  • @tomstrains4129
    @tomstrains4129 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad bought a 71 convertible when we were kids (early 2000s). Bought it for 1,000 bucks off a guy who was bracket racing with it. The PO took out the inline 6, painted it black, threw in a 70s Lincoln 460 with cherry bombs, a C6 transmission with a 9 inch rear.
    It’s what started my love of cars although it was Frankenstein’d. Dad sold it right as I turned 16, but the car rides always made us laugh and we’d always wait outside to watch and see it try to start and wake up the neighborhood. The sound alone can make any non-car lover grin.
    On the search for a 71-72 now, fastback or convertible is fine with me! Not as pretty as the other first gens, but definitely sentimental.

  • @aintmanyofusleft
    @aintmanyofusleft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Drove a 4 speed 351 (A little juiced) 71 that was for sale years ago and gotta say, it was one fast/fun drive. always loved the bigger body change. love the fastback cars of every manufacturer from the era. Wonder what a fastback couger woulda looked like....

  • @chawenhalo0089
    @chawenhalo0089 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always like the mach1 shape. Would love to see what could be done as a restomod. That 351 seems like an American Aston, love it.

  • @louiswoodbeck249
    @louiswoodbeck249 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos, awesome summaries. Look forward to each new video you publish

    • @jasmith1867
      @jasmith1867 ปีที่แล้ว

      I give this video a 4 Vs up. For blooper value.

  • @mry82
    @mry82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sweet, a new one! Today, I have been binge watching the videos that were released before I subscribed, lol. Cheers!

  • @PhilBesch
    @PhilBesch ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hated my 71 Mach 1. One day, when it broke down, again, it was near a 79 black on black Trans Am. So I sold my Mach to my friend so I could buy the TA and never looked back. Because I was used to not being able to actually look backwards through that stupid rear window. Also, my friend was happy to get my Mach 1 because he now has it with his 71 Boss. We did a drag race once. He was surprised that the 6.6 got the win. I kept telling him that those cars were land yachts. But it was still fun.

    • @terrywalchuk4793
      @terrywalchuk4793 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ok what ever you say he must have been a bad driver a 351 C 4V would smoke a smogged out 400 any day maybe the screaming chicken decal on the trans am hood made it faster Lol cars of that mid 70’s and late 70’s period were slow they replaced the performance with decals that the way it was after 1972 GM guy those cylinder heads of 351 C 4V had valve sizes of 2.19 intake valves and 1.71 exhaust valves canted-valves or semi hemi cylinder heads the same size valves as 454 Chevrolet engine deep breathing cylinder heads means more power think about it

    • @PhilBesch
      @PhilBesch ปีที่แล้ว

      @terrywalchuk4793 Both are 6 sec cars. Factory the quadrajet was set to open later, which made it slower. First thing I adjusted. Next is the big difference with their ignition systems. I can tell you from first-hand experience, the Mach was a real pain! The Pontiac, only thing that I did to it was changed wires and cap. The Pontiac also wasn't really smoged out then. The latter years like 81, it definitely was. Mine only has a cat and evap canister. And finally, the Boss and Mach were auto's. I can go through all the details about the 3 cars. I don't have the nostalgia glasses on as I can literally park all 3 next to each other and highlight the pros and cons. Like the Bandit will be pulled over more by cops. The red Mach got pulled over once because the cop couldn't see me from the rear. Then he tried to explain how that could be dangerous to drive. I thanked him for pointing that out rather than asking him how would I fix it. Like, bro, it's built this way. Hope this helps.

    • @philsocks3386
      @philsocks3386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to wipe the streets with trans am with 70 mach 1 351 Cleveland 4 speed.

    • @PhilBesch
      @PhilBesch ปีที่แล้ว

      @philsocks3386 A 1970 was a different car all together. I wanted one of those real bad, but I missed a chance getting 1 when I was also after a 69 Dodge Charger. I'm sure you gave some firebirds a run for their money.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PhilBesch Hated the Duraspark boxes from Ford .Always left me stranded .

  • @myleslong5584
    @myleslong5584 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the W-30 tag on front of the Mustang at 1:10!

  • @LR-my2di
    @LR-my2di ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of these in 1980 from an airman in Valdosta, GA just to resell. I was in grad school and had no place to keep it. It had been very well maintained and was silver with the factory 15" X 7" chrome plated Magnum 500 wheels. It was said to have been "dyno tuned" by a For "expert" and the only mod was a 800 cfm Holley. It was a close runner to my stock 1970 GS Stage 1 that I'd bought new, and that car had never lost a race to any other stock muscle car. The Boss 351 would beat my Chevy buddy's 1970 Z/28 by 2 lengths every time we raced. I ended up selling it for $3800 (1981) through the old $25 Hot Rod magazine ads of the day, but I was left with some very good memories. Good ol' days for sure.

  • @hailstorm1986
    @hailstorm1986 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's crazy to believe that there was actually a '71 boss 302 made as a prototype and someone actually found it and is trying to restore it and they've actually been tracking their progress here on TH-cam.

    • @DemnRaig80
      @DemnRaig80 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @jwrockets
      @jwrockets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I've seen him. He comes off a bit of prick to me. Your milage may vary.

  • @jameshaynes8489
    @jameshaynes8489 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was always a boss 351 guy. a big block chev guy designing a ford small block 351C, they really come to life with boost, ports and valves were large

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this style mustang it's second to me behind the Fox body

  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I owned a Boss 351 back in the early 1990s. I first fell in love with one sitting in a Ford showroom back in the autumn of 70. Main complaint - Ford forgot to equip the car with TORQUE. It was geared and cammed for stoplight racing, period. As far as the body style goes, that's an acquired taste. Is it/was it a forgotten car? I think not, especially if you are a Ford guy. For a one year only model, it got a pretty fair amount of attention in the car magazines of the day. They just lagged in collector status for a few decades relative to the too cute and cuddly 69-70 Mustangs.

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree on the body I used to dislike out now i like it. I think changing the tail lights could make a huge difference. I think these were under appreciated by non ford people, most hardcore ford guys know about them but I feel like most other people unless they walked right up to it couldn’t tell it apart from a Mach

  • @financialconnectioninc
    @financialconnectioninc ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The 351 Cleveland did not have 4 valve per cylinder heads..

    • @robertstone9988
      @robertstone9988 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Common mistake with young guys they see 351 v4 and thank 4 valves lol they don't know shit about carbonation😂. For kids who don't know 4v stands for 4 venturi, or in English 4 barrel carb.

    • @douglasmcdowall5006
      @douglasmcdowall5006 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came here to comment that aswell.. 4v.. 4 Venturi or 4 barrel carburetor.
      @@robertstone9988

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      You are indeed correct that is my mistake it is in fact NOT a 4 valve but for 4 barrel carb. I have a 2004 Mach 1 which is a 4.6L 4V which has 4 valve heads so I applied the same logic to this motor but I was in fact incorrect. Thank you for the clarification.

    • @ralphthomas7868
      @ralphthomas7868 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Big port, larger valve head stamped with a 4, sometimes stamped 4 with a dot

    • @robertstone9988
      @robertstone9988 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ralphthomas7868 I have a Cleveland Ranchero

  • @psa10hunter94
    @psa10hunter94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been a Mopar guy from day one, but the 71 mustang Mach 1 is my favorite mustang.

  • @ricktaylor3748
    @ricktaylor3748 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Ford actually built a scant handful of 1971 Boss 429 ci Mustangs. I have a friend who owns one. It handles like a stagecoach.

    • @carolnelson9269
      @carolnelson9269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pictures posted would be neat. Understand the rarity. Nothing but the car would be great. Car, engine bay, interior shot.

    • @godsowndrunk1118
      @godsowndrunk1118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the stagecoach analogy....I used to say my big block 67 Mustang handled like a chariot.

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@godsowndrunk1118 👍

    • @DonDrogowski
      @DonDrogowski ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They were not Boss 429's in 1971. They were standard 429's and not the semi-Hemi heads of a Boss 429.

    • @ricktaylor3748
      @ricktaylor3748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DonDrogowski I saw it several weeks ago. The valve covers say "Boss 429" It's probably an old 10:1 compression 375 horse slug.

  • @racer6583
    @racer6583 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is one mistake you made you said four valve,a Cleveland had eight canted valves per head, the 4V on a ford stood for the venturis , i.e. the carburetor a 4 barrel. Other than that you are dead on the mark.
    Good job on shinning a light on the only race car that never raced for ford.

  • @tomedwards7847
    @tomedwards7847 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am pretty sure it put out more than the advertised 330HP. Probably closer to 400 (They underrated allot of engines back then for insurance purposes)

  • @cjespers
    @cjespers ปีที่แล้ว

    The rarest boss. Thanks for the video.

  • @gardenave2531
    @gardenave2531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mopar guy here. Why are the Mach One’s so cool? Generally don’t like Ford lines, but the these.. that’s a damn fine automobile.

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the body style! I think if they switched these twilights it would truly make most people rethink their opinion!

  • @GrandPitoVic
    @GrandPitoVic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was my favorite body style Mustangs.

  • @tj-597
    @tj-597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had a. “72” Grande with a 351 Cleveland (didn’t appreciate what I had) the rear window was pushed in so visibility was ok.The only thing I didn’t like about it was the rear-end was a little squirrelly.The interior wasn’t great but functional

  • @henryjohnson4061
    @henryjohnson4061 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE LOVE LOVE these cars!!!

  • @tomstamatakos8027
    @tomstamatakos8027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thabks for a great video on these cars! Always liked this generations Mach1 the best, was cool to learm of the Boss 351 variant 👌

  • @shanechostetler9997
    @shanechostetler9997 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually love that body style. Wish I still had my 351 CJ ‘73 Mach 1.

  • @dieholdendie
    @dieholdendie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a 73 Mach1 fastback 351 4v , 4 speed with Hurst shifter and 3.5''s in the late 80's.
    Went really well, drove it hard
    Don't remember ever being worried about visibility out the rear window, would have been the last thing on my mind

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a fastback. More of a flatback.

    • @Kgio-2112
      @Kgio-2112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My brother had a 73 mach one q code , 4 spd back around 1986-87. He didn't lose many races.

  • @fredclements6843
    @fredclements6843 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have one an I’ve loved it ever since I was kid best one it was the MUSHORSE! I looked for ever an finally got one!!!!

  • @SteveBueche1027
    @SteveBueche1027 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Aunt had one when I was young (10) but even then, I didn’t like it and thought the Stang was finished. When I got older I had a Gran Torino fast back 2 door, in gold with a 351M. I had major rust issues.

  • @terryharris2569
    @terryharris2569 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay I've been waiting for someone to talk about the beast of 1971 Mustangs that I owned, yea the Boss 351 was hot, but not as hot as the Mach1 429 SCJ not to me mistaken for 429 CJ which pops up 99.9% of the time. The difference between the 429 SUPER COBRA JET W/ DRAG PAK and COBRA JET was the SCJ was a solid lifter cam like the Boss 351, The SCJ was rated at 375hp for insurance, it got air & gas from a Holley 780cfm double pumper carb, pumped out more like 450hp came with C6 auto 3:91 Posi traction 9inch, trans cooler, no air, staggered shocks, I hate that I sold mine after having it 12yrs, I was young, dumb didn't realize how special it was they made 500 SCJs to this day the place I've seen one like I had a real "SCJ" is rolling cross the block on Barrett Jackson sold for 176,000

    • @benjisterchi5195
      @benjisterchi5195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your 100% correct, my best friend's father bought him one same year I bought my 71' Boss 351. Beat me pretty bad just about everytime we would get on it, on the way to the Hollywood Speedway in Pembroke Pine's Fla.

  • @jackylsmith8138
    @jackylsmith8138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ford designed the 71-73 Mustang around the 429 engine. So they had to make things a little bigger. It is a pain to work on a 428 or even a Boss 429 in the 69-70 mustangs. The 429 in the 71 is easy peasy to work on.

  • @rono3045
    @rono3045 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The boss 351 is an all-out race motor solid lifters ,780 double pumper 11 to 1 compression the only problem was bad block design too thin and pour oil distribution..otherwise that motor would dominate NASCAR circuit back then

  • @josephg41
    @josephg41 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew about this one but it was the last Boss I heard about. It really wasn't one to forget about but I think it's because it's the less desirable '71-73 body style and the middle child between the Boss 302 and Boss 429. But I'd love to have one, almost more than a boss 429 actually, it's more of a daily drivable car, and one that corners better and is a little bit easier to work on due to the extra room compared to the big block cars. It's a shame they're so rare. The Boss 351 and '71 Mach One were the last hurrah for truly fast Mustangs for a long time.

    • @gordocarbo
      @gordocarbo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True...mid 70s were horrid for all
      Charlie Angels stangs, Monzas etc bad time for the big 3
      Toyota was getting real popular back then.

  • @leonardhirtle3645
    @leonardhirtle3645 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The v in 4v stands for Venturi as in 4 barrel carburetor. The heads on the boss 351 did have huge valves.

  • @steverifenberg8859
    @steverifenberg8859 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a 73 fastback, couldn't see crap out the back window 😅 wish I still had it

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol it’s so funny how they definitely didn’t realize that till they already made the first prototype and were like “eh it’s fine”

  • @AG-fs8yn
    @AG-fs8yn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In person, they look pretty cool. There’s one that goes to the same autocross events that I do, but it doesn’t race in CAM-T with my Bullitt

  • @jameshaynes8489
    @jameshaynes8489 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great info. thanks

  • @billypater5287
    @billypater5287 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MUSTANG 🐎 MADE HISTORY,FOX BODY,i owned at least four 69 Fastback,67 Notch back 70 Fastback 3 Speed on the Floor loved 😍 THOSE Stangs

  • @theone861
    @theone861 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 71-73 Mustang is smaller than 2005 - current models.

  • @ZacLowing
    @ZacLowing ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOL, 4v heads means 4 barrel carb heads. The 4 valve heads didn't come for a couple of decades. 4:40

    • @ralphthomas7868
      @ralphthomas7868 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big port, big valves heads stamped with a 4, sometimes a 4with a dot.

  • @danbaumann8273
    @danbaumann8273 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they're freekin' gorgeous. Can't remember the first time I saw one I think a car show, but it was a looong time ago. Was like 😮😘😍

  • @olikat8
    @olikat8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1971 Ford "Banana Boat" Boss...not forgotten, just not as desirable because it's almost a Torino

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol I never heard the banana boat name thats funny

    • @torque3022
      @torque3022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      certain years of cadillac escalades have banana tail lights

    • @philsocks3386
      @philsocks3386 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen these cars run 10 seconds in the quarter mile with mild 460, street cars.with tags.

    • @olikat8
      @olikat8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @philsocks3386 figures, not doubting that, but a Dart with a 440 can do it as well and not look so ponderous.
      In the right colors & options, this era is not bad. But they are big, with ponderous proportions. That's all I was saying

    • @Zekais
      @Zekais ปีที่แล้ว

      @@olikat8 I admit that after I first saw a sinister '71 Mach One 429SCJ in black with the argent stripes, I never thought of that Mustang SportsRoof generation as looking ponderous. Dangerously badass, but not fat. The paint details/stripes could make it look more or less ponderous, I'm sure. I'm not sure about the Mustang, but I read at the time that the '71 Cougar was actually lighter than the '70, although it looked somewhat bulkier.
      When I first drove my 1st wife's '71 Mach One, I was prepared to be disappointed, but I was pleasantly surprised to find how responsive, flat-cornering and light it felt to me. It wasn't quite up to my '70 Cougar Eliminator, but it didn't have the Trans Am oriented suspension of that Boss 302 powered Mercury, either. A really nice, confidence inspiring car to drive, IMO. It was kind of a stripper for a Mach One, aside from an automatic (yuck) trans, so maybe a hugely optioned one with smaller tires than the Mach One/other performance variants had would have been more of a pig, but her's was a joy to drive.

  • @jokerzwild00
    @jokerzwild00 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im weird i guess, I always loved the chunky boi Mustangs of the 70s. I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and they were more classical Mustang than the Fox bodies driving around at the time, to me. One of our neighbors had an olive green completely ragged out Boss 302 up on blocks in his yard, i always dreamed of getting that car and fixing it up. The name alone made it cool.

  • @321-Gone
    @321-Gone ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4::37 - They're not 4 valve heads. The 4V means four venturis. 4 Barrel carburetor

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 valve heads on an OHV V-8 may be trick but for the mass you lose on the valve weight you gain it back on the extra mass in the valve train. Ford actually built some prototype/engineering 4valve heads for small blocks on the late 60s. Various GM division messed around with them too.

  • @rnt45t1
    @rnt45t1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still like it!

  • @saleen367
    @saleen367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Four valve heads in 1971 would have put the rest of the auto industry on their heels. Sadly, not the case, but the heads were stellar none the less with 2 canted valves per cylinder. Also, while I personally love the Boss 351 because of its engine, the 69-70 Boss 302's would probably have an advantage on a road course due to their weight advantage. Don't forget to mention the one of one 1971 Boss 302.

  • @dukecraig2402
    @dukecraig2402 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was a Mach 1 instead of a Boss but still it was a 71 that James Bond was tearing around Las Vegas in with Tiffany Case next to him in Diamonds Are Forever, that makes the 71 Mustang officially a Bond car and it don't come any cooler than that.

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES, I am a huge bond fan and when I saw him finally driving a Mach I was so excited. The Aston from the living daylights is still my favorite though

  • @kingdomculture5743
    @kingdomculture5743 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid! I sure would like to own one!

  • @Rick-last1
    @Rick-last1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 1971 Mach 1 and it had an automatic trans and a 2 bbl carb. I still smoked Trans Ams any time I ran against them.

  • @JC-gw3yo
    @JC-gw3yo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 351 Cleveland produced the most horsepower per cube of all small blocks, according to Richard Holdner. A fantastic engine even in this heavy car

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 ปีที่แล้ว

    We didn't forget the 1971.
    It NEEDED that Boss 351 just to try to keep up with the 1969 Boss 302 due to it's BLOAT (though to be fair, the bloat was in part to be ABLE to fit the 429's extra width over the older FE-series 428 that had to be custom-installed in the older narrower engine compartment of the 1969 and before).

  • @Imnotyourdoormat
    @Imnotyourdoormat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *Because they were too busy not noticing how much bigger and heavier the 71' Camaro and Barracuda/Challenger had become and not ever saying a single word about that because they were too busy picking on the **_"Longnose"_** Mustangs that's why...*

  • @mrfairsthename7470
    @mrfairsthename7470 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks wise the Boss 429 hits my spot .

  • @whytebearconcepts
    @whytebearconcepts ปีที่แล้ว

    7:35 "The first rule of Italian driving, what behind me is not important" ~Franco, Gum Ball Rally

  • @mylanmiller9656
    @mylanmiller9656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As tested by the Hoit rod magazines of the day, the Boss 351 ran better quarter mile times than ether, the Boss 429 or the 429 super cobra jet. The 1971 Car was 300 pounds heavy than the 1970 car. i would have loved a 1970 Mustang with a 351-Boss engine.

  • @jamessharp9790
    @jamessharp9790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The development was the earlier Boss 302 for Trans Am series. Needed x number of models for homologation. Boss 351 being a 351C 4v with solid cam was pretty stout.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      From 1970 on the manufacturers no longer had to offer a 5 liter V-8 in a production model to meet SCCA A/Sedan rules. That's what the 5 liter TransAm cars were. This allowed Chrysler to enter using destroked 340s. And Pontiac to enter with destroked 400s. AMC took advantage to destroke Special Service Block 360s. These were 360 blocks with 390 webs and water passages. Sold over the parts counter unbored.
      The 1970 TransAm series in many ways was the high point of Road Racing in the US imo. Solid factory involvement. Competitive racing and great drivers. The 69 and 70 Boss 302 had great acceleration out of the corners. One reason was the cylinder heads (1). Another was the short deck height which allowed short pistons and short rods. Also a shortervalve train. A 3 inch stroke is about as big as you want to go in a Windsor short deck. To go to 351 they had to increase the deck height. A lot.
      1) The Boss heads flows lot better than the Chevy heads. So do the 340 and AMC heads. But it's not just flow at maximum opening. The valves spend a lot of their time with a lot less lift. Ford also got creative with carburation. Building inline 4 barrel cards that were essentially 4 barrel Webers. The SCCA shot those down pretty quick.

    • @jamessharp9790
      @jamessharp9790 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mpetersen6 I remember. Auto lite inline four barrel

  • @rjh4735
    @rjh4735 หลายเดือนก่อน

    James Bond drove the same body style Mustang in the movie Diamonds Are Forever, and it also starred in the original 1974 movie Gone In 60 Seconds.

  • @justme307
    @justme307 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who forgot it? I didn't.

  • @brycemorrill8764
    @brycemorrill8764 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely car

  • @angelo_giachetti
    @angelo_giachetti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1975 I was 19. I bought a 71 Mach1, 351C 4 brl. silver with red/black base interior but it had factory tach, 4speed, no posi, no ram air but did have AC, rear de icer.
    I raced a 1970 AMX, 390, 4 speed. I pulled ahead at the top of every gear but not by much. We did it several times.
    11 months later I traded it for an F100. That was a mistake.

    • @angelo_giachetti
      @angelo_giachetti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And my cousin bought a new 1972 Mach1 Grabber blue, 351C, 4brl with ram air, auto trans, no ac. His had premium black int.
      A neighbor, Sammy had a black on black 71 Mach1, 351C Ram air, 4 speed with posi. It was a low option Mach1.
      I lived a few miles from the Chicago Ford stamping plant. There were alot of Fords around here. One guy had a 70 Torino GT, dark green, 429, 4speed. Another local had a 71 Mach1, red, 429 ram air, 4 speed.
      I never seen a Boss Mustang back then in the mid 1970s.

  • @dalebecker6583
    @dalebecker6583 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, it’s bigger than a 65 by a lot, but if you compare it to 69-70, change was not so much(size)! And, yes, factory rating was 330hp, but if you look at later Dyno tests of stock BOSS351, it made 400 hp! Even the M code 351 4V that came in Mach1, made 375hp, not 300 as factory said!

    • @tomstamatakos8027
      @tomstamatakos8027 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I was thinking something was off with 11.7:1 compression and big valved heads something wasn't adding up.
      Expected more like 400hp💪🙂

    • @edcain9492
      @edcain9492 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly,the Quarter Mile Times weren't too far Behind 427SCJ❤.

  • @maxwellkafka
    @maxwellkafka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 1971, was the 351C with a 4 bolt main only available in the Boss model, or could it be ordered for the Mach1 too?

  • @mcm95403
    @mcm95403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny, my current V6 Challenger is quicker to 60 and almost as quick in the 1/4 mile, has the same top speed, but gets 37 mpg on the highway, stops better with the 4-piston Brembos and will pull 1.2+ g's. Amazing how technology has advanced things. I'm not building any more cars, but this body is one I really wished I had built one of.

  • @FrankBonessa
    @FrankBonessa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The red one at 3:43 looks magnificent. Had a yellow '71 351C 4speed in perfect condition. Sold it to buy a new '80 CB750F. Not too smart.

  • @WingWalker1
    @WingWalker1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess I'm not "Everyone" because myself and all of my friends haven't forgotten about this car.

  • @MrWildwilly48
    @MrWildwilly48 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The chevy boys just wanted to forget getting spanked by the only small block to run in the thirteen second range.

  • @curtisimo032
    @curtisimo032 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's one on Bring A Trailer right now already bid up to $63k. Seems people didn't forget how valuable they are.

  • @dano9421
    @dano9421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 1971 boss, 351,4 speed close ratio, fastback, I made a big mistake selling the car,and I really miss the car,I have been trying to find the car for years

  • @dwaynegamble244
    @dwaynegamble244 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im.a Mopar guy all the way But ive always loved this yr of Mustang boss car 351 4v Id take it over 429 Because its lighter in the front end And doesn't plow in corners as bad

  • @mcjams66
    @mcjams66 ปีที่แล้ว

    They dyno'd @ 386hp and for those that say they lacked torque, the torque curve was just slightly better than the LT1 Chev and with 50 more hp.

  • @patrickkelly9721
    @patrickkelly9721 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always preferred the look of the 69-70 to the 71 & newer.

    • @rarecars3336
      @rarecars3336  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do as well

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir...the "4V" heads associated with the 351 Cleveland in the Boss, did not stand for "four valve"...the 4V stood for Four Venturi...i.e. 4 barrel carburetor heads to differentiate them from the much smaller valve sized 2V/2 barrel 351 Cleveland heads.

  • @pinocarrozza1645
    @pinocarrozza1645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guessing front end design of this got carried through into XB Falcon here in Oz? Def wouldn’t say no to one of these… unless I was being offered a ‘70 Boss at the same time 👌

  • @johnlambert7056
    @johnlambert7056 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once people realize the low numbers available , R code, 4spd, compression . Plus awesome looking . Prices will start going high north soon !

  • @jasmith1867
    @jasmith1867 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the 71 Mustangs came out nobody really liked the body style. And no one cared if they had good power trains. That made the older Mustangs more valuable. And today the 67/68 Mustangs are still the most popular of any Mustang.

    • @Zekais
      @Zekais ปีที่แล้ว

      Sweeping generalizations are almost never correct. "Nobody" (meaning, I assume, no car nuts or gearheads) liked the body style, or cared about good power trains? That makes me pretty certain that you were not around in 1971, because I was, and those two things were about all that the male people I interacted with cared about back then.
      The first '71 Mustang I saw up close and personal in late 1970 was a Mach One 429SCJ, black with the argent (silver) trim/stripes, spoilers at both ends, but no slats.That was the most sinister, badass looking new machine I had seen since my first look at a black or jade green '69 Boss 429. That opinion was not universal, of course, but your premise is anything but universal as well.
      And contrary to your opinion, I was extremely interested in good power trains. Ford was the only American manufacturer still making a few undiluted muscle/pony cars for the '71 model year. GM had dropped compressions, equipped milder cams and so on. MoPar had really only dropped compression ratios, so they didn't suck as bad as GM stuff did performance wise in '71. At Ford, over 10:1 compression was still around, with the Boss 351 and 429SCJ still rated at over 11:1. The Boss and Super Cobra Jet were also sporting pretty decent solid lifter cams.
      I wanted a '71 SJC or Boss just about as much as I wanted any number of cars from that era. Except for a GT40. I didn't want anything as bad as I wanted one of those.

    • @jasmith1867
      @jasmith1867 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned a 67 Shelby at the time so I guess I was spoiled. I expected Mustangs to get better looking. But they just got big and fat. Nobody wanted a 71. But some had to settle for that fat turd.@@Zekais

  • @AA-ke5cu
    @AA-ke5cu ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 351 Windsor in a stock 1986 Ford f150 xlt supercab lariat package; took all the anti pollution devices off ;threw on a set of blackjack headers. Stock posi rear. Engine made in Canada. Dual gas tank switch; full 8 foot bed with cover ;and matching paint Lear top with screens and sliding windows dark navy blue and white. Heavy bitch but she moved when needed full or empty. Never had a problem with that engine.

  • @vadenk4433
    @vadenk4433 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a crying shame that Ford didn’t drop the BOSS Cleveland into the 1969-70 mustang. Imagine the legend that would’ve become.

  • @stevejohnson6858
    @stevejohnson6858 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I felt the same way about the body changes in the 71 Mustang as I did the changes to Mopar B-bodies in the same year. For me, both became land yachts. Great motor, ugly Mustang.

    • @GroovyBabyYeah
      @GroovyBabyYeah ปีที่แล้ว

      It grew on me,
      unique but not ugly unique

    • @terrywalchuk4793
      @terrywalchuk4793 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sleek

    • @RobertSmith-le8wp
      @RobertSmith-le8wp ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Dad used to have a 1973 Charger w/ a 400. While not necessarily ugly it wasn’t nearly as good looking as the ‘68-‘70 ones. Unfortunately 1973 was close to the end of the line for the Charger. They became a personal luxury car and then went away

    • @ShaunHensley
      @ShaunHensley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the common opinion of most post-70 American cars. Complete smog dogs

    • @blackgenesis7472
      @blackgenesis7472 ปีที่แล้ว

      71 is ultimately muscular car design comared to prior years. very similar to 69 GT 500 - designed after that.

  • @daveridgeway2639
    @daveridgeway2639 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 1965-1970 Mustangs where based on the Ford Falcon. The 1971-1973 Mustangs where based on the Ford Torino. I you where to raise the cars up on a lift side by side you can see what I am talking about. Also take note of the engine compartment firewall on the 1971-1973 Mustang Vs. the Torino. You will also see the same with the 1967-1970 Vs. 1971-1973 Mercury Cougar. Please reply. Dave...