Exploring Species - How a non genre director made one of the most memorable sci-fi films of the 90s

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  • Good Bad Flicks looks into the history of the sci-fi thriller Species. Directed by Roger Donaldson.
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  • @morphman86
    @morphman86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I like the constant background writing in Geiger's storyboards: "Don't copy Scott's Alien"

    • @ReginaldTate-le6fe
      @ReginaldTate-le6fe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simply because they WASN'T really trying to COPY Alien, this movie Species, was DESPERATELY TRYING TO BECOME IT'S VERY OWN THING too as well okay @morphman86.

    • @morphman86
      @morphman86 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ReginaldTate-le6fe I know. Is just funny to me how ingrained those designs were in his mind because of the time and effort he spent with Scott, that he needed to insert reminders to himself to check his work for similarities.
      The end result was amazing, so it obviously worked.

    • @charlesreid9337
      @charlesreid9337 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ReginaldTate-le6feyou seem to have a reading comprehension problem
      And the studio was absolutely trying to copy alien

  • @otaking3582
    @otaking3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1635

    If Giger were still alive today, I'd want to start a crowdfunding campaign for him to make whatever the hell film he wants with zero studio interference.

    • @tonyesqueda9186
      @tonyesqueda9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      As close as we are gonna get. th-cam.com/video/pvgsSlopiEQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Xbox

    • @francescagonzalezramos9442
      @francescagonzalezramos9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Guys! Do you remember Spawn in 1997?

    • @tonyesqueda9186
      @tonyesqueda9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@francescagonzalezramos9442 who doesn't?

    • @francescagonzalezramos9442
      @francescagonzalezramos9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@tonyesqueda9186 brand new R rated rebooted Spawn in 2021, yeah?

    • @otaking3582
      @otaking3582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @TheParrotPapa I mean, he's not wrong. No _one_ person could say that Alien is their creation, as Dan O'Bannon wrote most of the story, Ronald Shusett came up with a lot of the more memorable aspects of the film (such as having the creature get aboard the ship via someone's digestive system), Ron Cobb and Chris Foss designed the Nostromo, etc.

  • @korbell1089
    @korbell1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    MGM didn't want Natasha Henstidge? That's funny because after 25 years I had forgotten most of the other actors but when I hear "Species" I think Natasha!

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Or worrying about her acting. I forgot that she even had lines in it. I'm not saying she can't act, but this was a situation where being hot and frequently naked was 90% of the role. Not only would that cover for weaker acting, nobody was going in expecting decent acting.

    • @mxviii
      @mxviii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Belgand Nobody was going into a film riding hot after Jurassic Park and Alien with Oscar winner Ben Kingsley, and Forrest Whitaker expecting decent acting??

    • @mayhem9361
      @mayhem9361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mxviii Pretty sure he meant nobody expected great acting from the nude super model with limited dialogue.. not the oscar winners.

    • @mxviii
      @mxviii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mayhem9361 Nah doesnt work with the context of his first sentence. Where he states that the studio shouldnt worry about her acting because it was a film nobody went in expecting decent acting.

    • @ReginaldTate-le6fe
      @ReginaldTate-le6fe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So do I too as well okay @Belgand.

  • @RudiW1510
    @RudiW1510 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I just love hearing about Gigers artistic, childlike enthusiasm when it comes to his macabre designs and kills. As contrary as it sounds, but there's something heartwarming and wholesome, to hear about a person that comes up with stuff like that, for entertainment. It's like the opposite of a kid telling you about all the cool scenes in an action movie.

  • @darikdatta
    @darikdatta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +650

    RIP Arecibo Observatory.

    • @datura_boof
      @datura_boof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rip

    • @gustavocards1552
      @gustavocards1552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Noooooo

    • @Jarejander69
      @Jarejander69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I came here for this comment

    • @nobleaj8
      @nobleaj8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      F

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Jarejander69 *remember...no mater where you go...there you are*

  • @Getwright-
    @Getwright- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    I did not realize Sill was clear until this video lol. I thought she was brass colored. I think her glowing would've showcased the fact she was transparent

    • @thebigzapfer8696
      @thebigzapfer8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Me too! I thought she was metallic!

    • @thefatman69dude
      @thefatman69dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Geiger knew his shit. He had such great ideas and the studio ignoring him only made for mistakes.

    • @QuestionableObject
      @QuestionableObject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Its like how people don't realize the Xenomorph has a translucent head in the original movie with a humanoid skin under the top of it.

    • @JohnWilliams-wl9px
      @JohnWilliams-wl9px 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@QuestionableObject Pretty sure the sequels helped people forget that fact, since the sequels showed the xenomorph and the head was showed to just be black than transparent.

    • @Ineedgames
      @Ineedgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thefatman69dude tbf a lot of his ideas were too expensive.

  • @Skarwind
    @Skarwind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Imagine having a legend design your monster then ignore him more than half the time.

    • @nope5657
      @nope5657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yeah, God forbid a studio try and control their budget instead of letting a concept artist inflate it wildly with insane ideas...

    • @TheSpiritsLease
      @TheSpiritsLease 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      His demands ranged from corny to fucking stupid. The budget could *not* accommodate the ending requests, the transparency of Sil or the stupid train scene. It would've ruined the movie and it's relationship with the studio.

    • @devforfun5618
      @devforfun5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@TheSpiritsLease i didn't see anything corny, he wanted to make the alien scarier, the alien in the movie is just a horny tentacle monster when it could have been a burning steel monster, that could have rivaled terminator in memorability

    • @billtree52
      @billtree52 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nope5657 that's what animation is for. Haha

    • @ssharkbait
      @ssharkbait 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheSpiritsLease sounds like he was mostly trying to make it unique and scary, not just a mediocre sci fi film that copied every other sci fi movie at the time. I understand the cost things and agree he did get carried away with some of his concepts, but some of the changes or criticisms he had were pretty valid. And ruined the movie? It’s far from a masterpiece as is.

  • @alfredthegreat9543
    @alfredthegreat9543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I never realised Natasha was so young and hadn't acted before because I always thought she nailed it- her eyes often did the talking.

    • @ReginaldTate-le6fe
      @ReginaldTate-le6fe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She was just simply GETTING INTO the part or role of the movie at the time okay @alfredthegreat9543.

  • @MandleRoss
    @MandleRoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    The scariest thing I ever heard was this comment I somewhere randomly read on the internet:
    What if we get a message back from space and it translates to:
    "You have to be quieter or they will hear you."

    • @DaDoubleDee
      @DaDoubleDee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      now there's a start of a horror sci-fi if I ever saw one!!

    • @macwilliams674
      @macwilliams674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A Quiet Place

    • @acetabularia03
      @acetabularia03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Read the "Three Body Problem" trilogy by Liu Cixin.

    • @maevixie7041
      @maevixie7041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Do you think the original poster of this would mind if I used this as an inspiration for a story I'm writing? Cuz like this is fucking awesome, I got goosebumps all over me from reading it

    • @nenadmilovanovic5271
      @nenadmilovanovic5271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Read about the dark forest theory

  • @thegood9
    @thegood9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    I would've done anything to have seen Giger's vision fully realized here...

    • @omegarugal9283
      @omegarugal9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      you must admit he had some fucked up ideas...

    • @thegood9
      @thegood9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@omegarugal9283 hell yeah he did...but it wasn't just that, it was that they were artistically GORGEOus!

    • @gaylordfocker7990
      @gaylordfocker7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Did you not watch this video or any of his other videos? Films would get a X rating if people just went 100% on Giger's ideas. Studios have to dumb it down. Pay attention.
      The train thing was dumb and didn't fit this film. Giger also comes across as a petulant baby and a nightmare to work with no matter how cool his art looks.

    • @mrniusi11
      @mrniusi11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      why? the train scene sounds so retarded and doesn't match the film. Not having flamethrowers would be good though.

    • @devforfun5618
      @devforfun5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mrniusi11 good nightmare scenes are good

  • @chump3947
    @chump3947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    I remember renting this on VHS, the picture quality was rubbish every time Natasha Henstrige was nude! I wonder how many times that tape had been paused?

    • @HarryBuddhaPalm
      @HarryBuddhaPalm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      I used to work at a video store and there was this movie with Kari Wuhrer that got rented a LOT. One night, I took it home to check it out and as soon as she got naked, the tape went to hell.

    • @Ponen77
      @Ponen77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@HarryBuddhaPalm ahhh Kari Wuhrer ...I spent many a late night staying up to sneakily watch the late night erotic films and she was a favourite of mine, especially after she featured in Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 as special agent Tanya

    • @outlawgt3045
      @outlawgt3045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The chick that played in this movie is one of the hottest women I have ever seen. Top 10 if not top 5.

    • @cgh7337
      @cgh7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No where near the amount of times VHS tapes of FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH had been worn out at the "Phobe Cates swimming pool scene" 😂

    • @HarryBuddhaPalm
      @HarryBuddhaPalm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cgh7337 You are not wrong.

  • @xen0bia
    @xen0bia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Natasha Henstridge can be proud of herself, this movie would have been long forgotten were it not for her striking looks. I still wish they had done a few things differently, like, actually listen to some of H.R. Giger's suggestions? His ideas, if tinkered just a bit, could made things especially great, like the colour changing body... While Sil lighting up like a christmas tree might not have looked that great, having bioluminescent appendages and streaks going through her translucent body, very similar to those deep sea creatures that look completely freakish and alien, would have complimented her design extraordinarily well - you'd actually notice her translucence, which you barely see as it is.

    • @jasonx7501
      @jasonx7501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Giger makes some cool art, but some of his ideas for this movie seem out of place, like the train. It seemed like he has a passion for creepy train art and was looking for any contrived way to fit this idea into the film even if it didn't do anything to advance or serve the story.

    • @juststatedtheobvious9633
      @juststatedtheobvious9633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jasonx7501
      She's part alien. Let her have nightmares about ordinary things transformed into alien monsters.
      Besides, the script was mostly formulaic trash, and all the good ideas were in the concept and design.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      James Cameron got the bioluminescent look right in Avatar.

    • @xen0bia
      @xen0bia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JinKee It's CGI however. I would've loved seeing it done pratically with a creature like Sil.

    • @Virakotxa
      @Virakotxa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jasonx7501 It was all about unstoppable sexual urges... The train had to be there! Pickles! I SAID PICKLES!!!

  • @BAGGStheAugmented
    @BAGGStheAugmented 3 ปีที่แล้ว +489

    "I SAID PICKLES! PICKLES!" - HR Giger

    • @jcoliveira93
      @jcoliveira93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Funniest thing I've ever seen

    • @Malum09
      @Malum09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Did he foreshadow Pickle Rick?

    • @RudolfJvVuuren
      @RudolfJvVuuren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      WE HAVE PICKLES!!!

    • @LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOME
      @LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOME 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Malum09
      LOOK PRESTON I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE
      I'M PICKLE SIL!

    • @miljenkopanajatovic1508
      @miljenkopanajatovic1508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Pickel is a german word for pimpel and is pronounced as english pickle

  • @AkuTenshiiZero
    @AkuTenshiiZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    "Listen, this train thing is going to happen and you can't stop me."

    • @Turtleproof
      @Turtleproof 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's like the slightly creepy slogan for Trane air conditioners: "It's hard to stop a train."

    • @caseygoddard
      @caseygoddard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Nothing stops the H. R. Giger hype train!!!!

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He spent a lot of his money on building a prop train for the film Isobar. Then the film never got to shooting.

    • @zerakielvmark
      @zerakielvmark 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Choohooo all aboard the Giger train!

    • @The_Trip_Doctor
      @The_Trip_Doctor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "It's hard to stop a TRANE"

  • @LauraTeAhoWhite
    @LauraTeAhoWhite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Giger is an amazing artist, I had the privilege to study under one of his colleges who did back drop paintings for Alien. He was known to give paintings to every day people who did the laboring jobs on set.

    • @PeachFlavoredKaiju
      @PeachFlavoredKaiju 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's amazing!

    • @terrylandess6072
      @terrylandess6072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree about his talent, skills and vision - yet give him an inch and he takes a light year. This look into his involvement in the film is controversial IMO as it gives the impression of a man asked to do something specific, and then he wants to take over the entire production. Who knows - this may have been exactly how it was.... Giger's Box is way more frightening than Pandora's. You might not want to open that!

    • @richtifilmpalast5373
      @richtifilmpalast5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the late 2000's I used to live about 50 yards away from his estate in Oerlikon and I passed his house a couple of times every week. It's not a big house surrounded by a wild garden full with crazy sculptures, although you couldn't see too much over the hedges. In nearly 5 years living there I've seen HRG himself only three or for times from afar, walking around in his garden.

    • @brutallyhonest123
      @brutallyhonest123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Colleagues?

  • @bryangarcia5599
    @bryangarcia5599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    *Alternate Video Title:* 'The Origin of _Species'_

  • @ExaltedDuck
    @ExaltedDuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    step 1. Hire Natasha Henstridge.
    step 2. Film her with her top off.
    step 3. ???
    step 4. Memorable sci-fi film!

    • @GuardianGrarl
      @GuardianGrarl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      One could say "Step 3: Get her to do a sex scene that's "
      (So i know this reply has far more words than what's required today for a comment to sound smart but... it was the only one ah could come up with)

    • @amadexmilby7309
      @amadexmilby7309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Step 3: Listen to H.R. Giger

    • @Neoxenok
      @Neoxenok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The secret ingredient is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS.

    • @cgh7337
      @cgh7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Throw in HR Giger, Ben Kingsley, Forrest Whitaker & Alfred Molina for good measure.

    • @Emiliapocalypse
      @Emiliapocalypse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GuardianGrarl wait...short comment = smart comment??

  • @HaitaniMasayuki
    @HaitaniMasayuki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    yeah... "pimples" are called "Pickel" in German. I guess every kid learning English in Germany, Switzerland or Austria chuckles a bunch the first time they find out what "pickles" are. :D

    • @MoriahDreams123
      @MoriahDreams123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pickles DO seem kinda pimply, if you think about it 😅

    • @AyshKing
      @AyshKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MoriahDreams123 I'm pickle Rick. Repent

  • @almightytallestred
    @almightytallestred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Love how Giger marked his idea sketch for the tongue death with *'Do not copy Scott's Alien'*

  • @kmaru80
    @kmaru80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'd actually forgotten how Sil was created. It really was a clever concept for a movie

  • @Mekasoundwave
    @Mekasoundwave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Giger: Please don't make this like Alien
    MGM, at literally every possible opportunity: How 'bout I do anyway?

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is why great films are so rare, so many decisions in line can turn a potential masterpiece of horror/sci-film genre into a mainstream monster of the week movie. Imagine if executives had the same passión and excitement about their projects as Giger had, what marvelous pieces of art we would have. And who knew the media would make Henstridge feel bad about her nudity?
    Thanx, Cecil , great as usual!!!

  • @burningmisery
    @burningmisery 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Imagine John Carpenter doing this movie after 'The Thing' & 'In the Mouth of Madness'; it could've been amazing and it would've been scary af, but JC is not someone who works well with studio meddling.

    • @green49285
      @green49285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. If carpenter did this the, maybe wins an Oscar.

  • @monsterguyx6322
    @monsterguyx6322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really shows the different priorities for Giger- the artist- full of new creative ideas, trying not to repeat himself vs the studio, trying constantly to copy their previous successes.

  • @alexandervelez9507
    @alexandervelez9507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    when sil went up to the hotel cashier and asked “where can i find a man?” i felt that

    • @GuardianGrarl
      @GuardianGrarl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      When Molina's character said "Oh my god... huh... Well i enjoyed that immensely" i bet a lot of audience members felt that.

  • @Veritech2011
    @Veritech2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    While many here remember Natasha Henstridge from Species, I'll always remember her as Ms. Ellen on South Park.

    • @cowabungadoug
      @cowabungadoug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Then, she made the mistake of messing with Wendy Testaburger

  • @mrmonkeyman652
    @mrmonkeyman652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Honestly man you are one of the most consistent makers I watch, I watch a lot of shit on TH-cam but I know if I start a binge of your stuff I’ll be here for a while, and I always find stuff I haven’t seen before? Seriously frustrating to see you don’t have more followers, definitely one of my favourite creators without a doubt.

  • @ZebraCatfish73
    @ZebraCatfish73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That was extremely detailed and well researched. Thoroughly enjoyed it! Good job!

  • @Estorium
    @Estorium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I always amazed to learn just how involved Giger was in so many aspects of the he worked on. He didn't just make a design, drop it off and leave.

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It partly seems like he just wanted to make a film himself. While it would have been nice to incorporate more of his ideas, I get the impression that he was a bit less practical. It seemed like a lot of them are turned down due to expense or difficulty in making them work and he didn't seem very understanding of those factors.

    • @Geospasmic
      @Geospasmic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was also involved in the PC games that used his art.

    • @dysamoria
      @dysamoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ... Like Hollywood wishes he'd do. It's amazing how stupid the corporate machine is in studios. They want money. Money comes from making stuff people like. They want recognition for art, too, but not as much as they want money. So when something is made and people like it, they try to figure out what the formula is. There is no formula. Especially when something is a creative piece of art, rather than merely mindless product. When they try to apply formula to recapture the success of the improbable works of art they accidentally allow to happen, it's even worse. I feel like they've given up entirely on anything other than profit profit profit. It's so depressing. Money is all that matters. Not just making it. Making ALL OF IT.

  • @psychodrummer1567
    @psychodrummer1567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Given that the movie consists of a group of members of different professions investigating something alien and older than humanity, it is a *very* good Call of Cthulhu 1990 story.

  • @Nejvyn
    @Nejvyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Well now I'm sure somewhere deep inside Kingsley enjoyed killing Madsen in BloodRayne

    • @richtifilmpalast5373
      @richtifilmpalast5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I smiled when I heard how Kingsley was being an absolute c*** to most people on set... except the young super model! go figure!! *lol*

  • @williamsandell3260
    @williamsandell3260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this movie started the whole modern Chupacabra scare in Puerto Rico that has spread through out the Central and South America. The first call to the police in Puerto Rico came from a woman who had seen the film the night before and was sure she was seeing a creature, a dead on match for the SPECIES alien wandering her neighborhood . Fortean Times and Nick Redfern tracked this urban legend and the woman down to find the beginnings of this whole crazy Chupacabra craziness

  • @StolidLiquid
    @StolidLiquid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    found this channel recently. The production quality is insane! thanks for all the interesting info, you're awesome!

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Thank you so much! :)

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoodBadFlicks I've just watched the whole thing without the intention to do so when realizing how long it is. Probably your production is beyond great! The details are not overly technical, the balance between tech and social is well done, the pacing is great. 42 mins just passed by, like it was only 10 and learned more about his film (I remember to watch it in movie) I have never thought I want. Applaud you, sir!
      Btw, I guess you already know, but Arecibo has been collapsed. The dream has ended.

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen. I'd gotten tired of most channels that do this _kind_ of thing because they tend to do some research, then pad with fluff. I'm new from today, watched three so far. One, he couldn't _make_ me care about. But they're really very well done.

  • @Nelkhael1
    @Nelkhael1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Your mention of the Arecibo observatory right around the time when they announced it is gonna close down is a bittersweet sendoff to a science giant.

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I mentioned it at the very end because while I was working on this, I found out it was being decommissioned

    • @Nelkhael1
      @Nelkhael1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GoodBadFlicks As a Puerto Rican, I appreciate this.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sucks

  • @Jmnzz
    @Jmnzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "And she drove him around the lot on her bicycle with him on the handlebars"
    ....Wait, what?

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You never saw someone riding with another person on the handlebars? Its only really done with the old style of girl's bikes because they have the "seat" dip in the bars. Boys' bikes have the straight bar, which would be unpleasant to sit on.

    • @Jmnzz
      @Jmnzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GoodBadFlicks I've seen it yeah. It's just I've only known of Ben Kingsley as this super serious "this way, my dear" type of person so the image made me chuckle

    • @voxdraconia4035
      @voxdraconia4035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Jmnzz Older , distinguished and cultured man, young hot model .... pretty sure why he wanted to drive a little bycicle with her. Pretty sure also that this might have been a reason why Madsen wanted to annoy Mr. Oscarwinner...hehehe

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My dad was in this movie! Kinda. He was a conductor for Union Pacific Railroad for forty years. At one point there's a train in the movie and - not that you ever see him but - he was the one driving it!
    I'm basically famous.

  • @Estorium
    @Estorium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Ahhhhh Natasha Henstridge. As a teen I was in love with her, especially with her dark hair later in the film.

    • @TheJnic559
      @TheJnic559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember the show..."She Spies"???

    • @journeyman1218
      @journeyman1218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God yeah. She was amazing.

    • @AndreNitroX
      @AndreNitroX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What teenage boy wasn’t in love with her

    • @DrQuagmire1
      @DrQuagmire1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheJnic559 that was one of my favorite shows

    • @TheJnic559
      @TheJnic559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrQuagmire1 me too

  • @thEannoyingE
    @thEannoyingE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I wish Geiger was still around, his design work as incredible.

  • @siva2727
    @siva2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    13:21 starring in alphabetical order
    Ben kingsley
    Alfred Molina :am i a joke to you?

  • @Pooky1991
    @Pooky1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Didn't know this movie had such a interesting backstory. I knew about the H.R. Giger designs, but never knew it went this deep. This is probably one of my favorite alien movies and am glad to see it getting the GoodBadFlicks treatment. Theres so many ideas in this movie i loved and the concept behind the alien. It would have been cool as hell to see Giger's full vision.

  • @rentosnyggt
    @rentosnyggt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Been a huge HR Giger fan since before Alien(yes I'm that old) and It's soo sad that Ridley Scott was the only director who could get all the best out of this one in a century artist! It's a good movie thou. Great work C., u are the best!

    • @Getwright-
      @Getwright- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Scott sort of watered down and diluted Gigers visions. He made an ugly alien when most of gigers lifeforms are like beautiful succubus

    • @datura_boof
      @datura_boof 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boi

    • @boboboy8189
      @boboboy8189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Getwright- because they want to make ultimate life form, not ultimate beautiful succubi

  • @HappyTeeth.
    @HappyTeeth. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the moment when Sil's baby starts to grow and it's arm is getting long and he starts to bang it on the rock has always fascinated me and creeped me out .

  • @FransHattingh
    @FransHattingh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely incredible take on the history of _Species_ . Thank you so much for doing this. As a big fan of the first film, I found this to be very insightful, with information I didn't know and photos I'd never seen. Top-notch work!

  • @kevinwebster7868
    @kevinwebster7868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Any movie that features Giger’s work will always be tied to Alien because that’s where most people were first exposed to it. His work is so specific that it’s almost the Alien universe itself. You could even make a Species/Alien crossover and it would hold its own.

  • @Madbandit77
    @Madbandit77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dennis Feldman also wrote "The Golden Child" and co-wrote "Just One Of The Guys" with Jeff Franklin ("Full House").

  • @Tommykey07
    @Tommykey07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always get a laugh from the scene when Forest Whitaker goes into the train car where Sil killed the conductor and he says "Something terrible happened here." Well, duh!

  • @juancandelaria7844
    @juancandelaria7844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A good movie to do would be Jet Lee's "Unleashed" . I think one of the most underrated performances by Jet Li ever.

  • @tantomane6990
    @tantomane6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Concise, well researched, humorous, informative, and engaging narration. I am absolutely thrilled that, despite the hardships you faced this year, you continue to provide us boobs out here in tv land such amazing long-form content! I can't be alone in looking forward to each drop. Thank YOU!

  • @FutureLaugh
    @FutureLaugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gieger really was such a genius, every terrestrial limitation only complicated his vision. I only wonder if with today's budget and technology we could do his work on this a justice. When they told him no, he was disgusted by their short sightedness and did it anyway to show them how it can be done.

    • @gaylordfocker7990
      @gaylordfocker7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The train thing was stupid no matter cool it looked.

    • @FutureLaugh
      @FutureLaugh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gaylordfocker7990 The concept was brilliant, the girl is being transformed and the dream is extremely symbolic.

  • @mattshuey1
    @mattshuey1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing Exploration! Your uploads are easily in the top echelon of content creators, and not just for movie reviews. Any other person would have made a barely 10 minute barebones attempt, you have us 45 minutes of awesomeness. Thanks again!

  • @leadvendor
    @leadvendor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you SO much for covering this one. Also, I gotta give Nat Henstridge further props for being so straight forward when she auditioned, saying she had no clue what she was doing. That is pretty damn gutsy.

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

    • @catherinefisher6188
      @catherinefisher6188 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was definitely right about not knowing what she was doing. She’s a lousy actress.

  • @fizzplease6742
    @fizzplease6742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awwww Henstridge driving Ben Kingsley around on her bike handles is the sweetest thing. Also, To this day me and my husband still quote "~~EVIL DOCTOR~~" from She Spies.

  • @bellvnv2000
    @bellvnv2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I love that scene, " Hey kids, species is on cable !"
    Basically saying, " Go watch me naked on TV !" 😆😆😆

    • @Emulous79
      @Emulous79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Or if she was British: "Go have a wank!"

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just don't try to watch "Species" on TH-cam.

    • @bellvnv2000
      @bellvnv2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skyden24195 why ???? 'NO BOOBIES' 😧 😭 !

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bellvnv2000 that is correct. I started watching Species on TH-cam w/ads, but it was edited for television. I watched The Terminator on TH-cam w/ads and it was shown in its R rated glory. So, I don't know what the deal was for species

    • @nekro5342
      @nekro5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skyden24195 over the top violence and bad language are fine in the states. boobs are the devil's material and must be rated R

  • @dellboy021
    @dellboy021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I REMEMBER THE PUNCHING TOUNG FROM WHEN I WAS A KID!!!!! I don't remember where I saw it. Just that it was on a tv and I was in the room for that one scene, then was kicked out after that death. Thanks for bringing back repressed memories GoodBadFlicks.

  • @the-trustees
    @the-trustees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sil's monster form WAS beautiful... and terrifying. I hope Giger was happy in the end.

  • @fillervision3
    @fillervision3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would love someone to make Giger's ghost train concept into its own film somewhere. That's a fantastic concept and would be interesting to see it fleshed out.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, this was the wrong project for it. It needs a film focused on it.

    • @thegreatxcelerator4224
      @thegreatxcelerator4224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidjames579 Yeah, let's call it "Fleshpiercer".

  • @darkknightwithanidea1845
    @darkknightwithanidea1845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Practically every 10 mins I hear ‘STUDIO SAID NO’ . It just makes me think the ONLY thing Studios ever do is say NO to everything. So why are they in business? If they have ZERO creative input, can’t ever make decisions, want to make ONLY money, jump all over a production once it makes a success then what’s the point. I’ll be so happy when STUDIOS go out of business & they get rid of incompetent executives. I even hear they are making a film about Robert Evans ( Exec @ Paramount) & Coppola over his battle to make The Godfather, staring Jake Gyllenhaal & Oscar Isaac with Barry Levinson (Rain Man) directing …Nothing changes. Thank God for resurgence of Independent film today.

  • @john-evanbear8783
    @john-evanbear8783 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Species is one of my favourite guilty pleasures because of Natasha Henstridge. Whenever it was on TV I would make a point to watch it (or at least checked back and forth if I was watching something else).

  • @Arkeli5
    @Arkeli5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to make 43 minutes and 23 seconds of my life disappear in complete and utter entertainment and awe: Hire Cecil. Amazing job as always man. I love your work so much.
    It's sad the dish is in disrepair but sometimes things happen for a very valid reason :D
    Natasha was simply stunning as you said in this movie but I disagree on seeing her now making me feel old. My aching knees, lower back, inability to hold new information and having to go to the bathroom every two minutes when drinking beer, makes me feel old!
    Thanks you for all your hard work Cecil :D

  • @DanMcLeodNeptuneUK
    @DanMcLeodNeptuneUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these videos! So much background info and movie effects techniques! Even studio politics and bickering. Brilliant!

  • @LittleRedTeaCake
    @LittleRedTeaCake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually super love the first and second movies. Giger was such an incredibly interesting person and I didnt realize how much he was involved in the movies. I even watched a documentary on him and didn’t realize it! I would have loved to see the original script shot and more Giger. Really well done video! Thank you!

  • @corydeceased
    @corydeceased 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My uncle took my lil brother & I to see this in the theater (clearly didn't do much research) I was 12 so it was a life affirming experience

  • @deesnutz42069
    @deesnutz42069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nothing will ever be funnier than the scene when the investigators go on the train after s1l kills the conductor. there's viscera freaking everywhere and Forest Whitaker's character(a psychic) says '[dramatic pause] ...something bad happened here.'

  • @Techn9cian123
    @Techn9cian123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DUDE! I remember when this movie came out. I wasn’t allowed to watch it with my dad or stepmom. I never watched it till a month ago because it’s free on youtube right now. It was great. There were a few corny moments but overall I loved it. I can’t wait to watch this video. I’ve watched your exploring The Mummy video several times.

  • @aikisteven0616
    @aikisteven0616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THIS is the kind of deep dive that makes me love this channel. Keep it up. will be sending links to all my (irl) friends.

  • @TheZanzibarMan
    @TheZanzibarMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    RIP Arecibo Observatory

    • @jackkraken3888
      @jackkraken3888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? That was so sad what happened.

  • @watchornothorror4385
    @watchornothorror4385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Giger sounds like he would have made, possible one of the best looking and violent horror movies in existence.
    Another solid video, well done sir 👊

  • @Harri927
    @Harri927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    H.R Giger is the master of all creatures before Stan Winston. I love his work.

  • @This-Present-Darkness
    @This-Present-Darkness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly, I would have loved a fish hook tongue thing. That sounds so cool

  • @jonhahn6557
    @jonhahn6557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nothing makes me happier than when I see a new video from you. The videos are put together perfectly and there is so much information. I'm not sure how you do it but it's very impressive.

  • @warcastle1133
    @warcastle1133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember this coming out on VHS in my grandparents video store. Really does make you feel old to think of how long ago that was. Great episode man, keep them coming and we will keep watching.

  • @DonaldSimsProduction
    @DonaldSimsProduction 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Once again, your dedication and hard work has translated into an enjoyable film. Thank you.

  • @midus0013
    @midus0013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Sending signals out space, is like playing with an Ouija board. You don't know who or what might answer back.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      At some point you have to break your cherry into the unknown.
      Besides, a truly advanced species would probably view us as glorified ants. Hubris to think we are even worth contacting.

    • @happyspaceinvader508
      @happyspaceinvader508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, it’s true that there’s no evidence either have ever answered back.

    • @silvervalleystudios2486
      @silvervalleystudios2486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@quintessenceSL Why is it always assumed that the other species out there are more advanced than us? Maybe we are number one by a long shot.

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@silvervalleystudios2486 Because if anything were to make contact with us, they'd have to surmount the technological difference between us.
      And if they are less advanced, we wouldn't know they were there.
      We can't even communicate effectively with dolphins. If we are the best the universe has to offer, it doesn't matter anyway.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quintessenceSL
      If they think of us as ants, then what would they think of actual ants as?

  • @bryangarcia5599
    @bryangarcia5599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    _'Pickles,_ Mr Giger? ...Well, I guess we might as well change her name to DIL, then....'

    • @tojiroh
      @tojiroh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oooooh no you didn't!

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Insert Pickle Sil joke somewhere*

    • @bryangarcia5599
      @bryangarcia5599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArcturusOTE ...‘Insert’, huh?

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bryangarcia5599 Oh. You got me there.
      Anyways I kinda wonder what will happen if someone does decide to give Sil cucumber DNA for laughs and didn't tell anyone?

  • @drvijil
    @drvijil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Species was a great movie. The cast was solid. Natasha, her striking good looks aside, put in a good acting performance. It was a great combination of an interesting sci-fi plot, great action, tasteful gratuitous nudity, good humor, and an overall fun campy quality. More movies should strive to be a fun, entertaining experience.

  • @bruh_hahaha
    @bruh_hahaha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this movie is so re-watchable. The effects still hold up rather well and the young Natasha Henstridge is stunning in the title role. 🍿😎

  • @PowerGuido-ky3gy
    @PowerGuido-ky3gy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video as usual. underrated youtube channel. cheers from Brazil

  • @jasonchildress4950
    @jasonchildress4950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your (I'll call them short films) have always been very professional. I have a sweet time watching them. Never stop please.

  • @golu_badbola
    @golu_badbola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the first Hollywood movies i watched back in 2002.
    Over the years somewhere in my sub conscious I thought It had something special about it.
    You just cemented that feeling.

  • @VonWenk
    @VonWenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. I had no idea it was almost 45 minutes long.. When I saw Species, the biggest problems I had with it were that they could have cut out the caption explaining was S.E.T.I. was, since Fitch explains it during his meeting with the hunters, and started with a shot of the sign outside, with the alarms blaring, and the audience wondering why soldiers are chasing a little girl; I wasn't clear what they were going for with Fitch freezing up when the creature gets loose in the lab; and the Alfred Molina character hooking up with some strange woman when he'd just been hunting a creature that had been mating with people.

  • @plugsocket9432
    @plugsocket9432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn’t know about all the film background drama. Thanks for giving me the further information regarding Species.

  • @jcoliveira93
    @jcoliveira93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to see Giger's take on the greatest train of all: Blaine from The Dark Tower

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Species girl was both extremely creepy and quite attractive when I first saw the movie so kudos to HR Giger and everyone else involved for doing a good work.

  • @egoborder3203
    @egoborder3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    jeez you really went all out on this one, thanks!!!

  • @kimbojones3908
    @kimbojones3908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The effort you put into this is incredible! Thank so much, I love hearing about Giger all day.

  • @LeXyStAr77
    @LeXyStAr77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved this video so much!!! I LOVE hearing all the back stories and info about different movies ESPECIALLY movies i love

  • @Hughes81
    @Hughes81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for pointing out that this had half the budget as Jurassic Park. I really hate when people judge movie Special Effects by saying " it came out around Jurassic Park"
    You know the one with the HUGE BUDGET and access to the most advanced computer graphic power house of the time? Yeah, same playing field.
    That said, I love this movie and thanks for another great episode.

  • @dbensdrawinvids8390
    @dbensdrawinvids8390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Eh, I disagree on some of Giger's ideas for this one. Glowing metal alien and ghost train are interesting concepts, but don't really work for a movie that is, essentially, a hunt for an escaped serial killer with an apocalyptic sci-fi twist. Little too 'high weirdness' if that makes sense. Would have worked in a more standard space horror movie though.

    • @gaminawulfsdottir3253
      @gaminawulfsdottir3253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, you get the feeling Giger wanted the ghost train in the film simply because he thought of it, whether it fit in the movie or not.

    • @nexviper
      @nexviper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gaminawulfsdottir3253 When better to use it than during the nightmare of a person on a train?

    • @gaminawulfsdottir3253
      @gaminawulfsdottir3253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nexviper That still doesn't mean it fits the rest of the movie.

    • @larsegholmfischmann6594
      @larsegholmfischmann6594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The train actually fits really well into Sil's transformation, but you have to be a bit Freudian about it. The train is this big powerful sex drive that is waking up inside her and threatens to destroy her if she doesn't mate.

    • @gaminawulfsdottir3253
      @gaminawulfsdottir3253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larsegholmfischmann6594 Even so, you have to make an effort to shoehorn it in where it doesn't really fit with anything else in the movie.

  • @RustyPryde
    @RustyPryde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There's something sadly poetic about the Arecibo Space Antenna just falling apart in 2020.

    • @mukamasa
      @mukamasa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It did?

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mukamasa RIP Arecibo. :(

  • @VERDICTInsanity
    @VERDICTInsanity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Natasha Henstridge, despite being the only “non actor” in the cast, was the best actor

  • @zabm141
    @zabm141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn this series is so awesome. It really shows appreciation for all the crafts that go into making these movies and also what a mess it sometimes can be bringing all the different artists and peculiar minds together. Thank you!

  • @platanutra8430
    @platanutra8430 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Arecibo Radiotelescope fell apart this week. We don't know if it will be rebuilt and watching how influential it was in the 90s higglights what a huge tragedy this event is.

  • @BetterYouNow
    @BetterYouNow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How can anyone dislike this video... It's exactly what the title says, for an excellent movies, in very in depth detail. Seriously, people amaze me. 14 people disliked, WHY?!

  • @jasontritt3243
    @jasontritt3243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The amount of research this man puts into these vids damn impressive 👍

  • @specopswolf
    @specopswolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the ammount of effort you put into these video's is simply amazing. it is always very interresting to hear what was going on in the background.
    Plus you got an great way of narrating this with a great sense of humour.
    Thanks a lot for your video's, i always enjoy them very much!.

    • @GoodBadFlicks
      @GoodBadFlicks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching!

    • @specopswolf
      @specopswolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GoodBadFlicks no thanks needed ;). credit where credit is due ;).
      I went out of my way to watch some of the movies after your reviews.
      Grabbers was awesome!.
      my own mother likes monster movies so i set her down and told her "you got to watch this".
      And friends did not take too much convincing. "yeah these monsters cant handle it if you drink booze".
      "yeah, lets watch!".
      Anyway, keep up the good work!. you have a real talent for this.

  • @pong86r
    @pong86r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, you guys put together some of the best researched videos on this platform! You, OfficeHanchoBoxing, ForgottenWeapons, Minty Comedic Arts- you're all amazing at what you do and i say 'Thank you!'

  • @justind9717
    @justind9717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing timing, just re-watched this the other day, great film, great channel

  • @odinsplaygrounds
    @odinsplaygrounds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This movie scared the shit out of me as a kid. I think the scenes with the little girl probably terrified me the most, when she’s on the train and the tentacles start growing out of her face. Later, I started liking it a lot. And definitely a very memorable movie, despite not universal acclaim.

    • @AndreNitroX
      @AndreNitroX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As an adult it would scare any man

  • @augustca1984
    @augustca1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me and my buddy watched this Saturday and we really enjoyed it! Another fantastic exposition. We both found it Intresting about Giger being ghosted by the studio basically around every corner.

  • @las10plagas
    @las10plagas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm "thinking this was a great video", then I look at the time bar and I'm only half way through the video.
    suddenly joy fills my heart