Dodgers missed out on Cole because he grew up a Yankee fan. Yankees missed out on Yamamoto because he grew up a Dodgers fan. When the money is similar that matters, A LOT
@@yosefyahu4778If the athletes made less, it would just mean the owners would make more money. They command these salaries due to the income they generate for their teams. Would you rather billionaires kept that extra revenue instead? There is no societal issue here at all.
@@John-mw8fwYou guys crack me up, the same cope comments everytime. Just admit that you’re fuming with rage that the dodgers are actually spending money.
@@knoxconary Except they aren't really spending money. They're playing games with the luxury tax limit to avoid spending money. Allowing a team to defer 97% of a contract is absurd by any rational standards. I'm not mad at the Dodgers, I'm mad at MLB allowing such a move to be possible. If the Dodgers actually had to pay their players the AAV of their contract every year, they would not have been able to afford their current roster.
Normally, it would be unthinkable for a pitcher's contract to last more than 10 years, such as 10 years for Ohtani and 12 years for Yamamoto. The Dodgers' message to Japan is ``To everyone in Japan, please continue to love the Dodgers for a long time!'' 'The Dodgers' seriousness is conveyed through their contracts. Japan is currently buzzing with talk about the Dodgers.
He was Never coming to New York ! Just needed one of the two New York teams to raise the dollars to what he wanted the Dodgers to match. Don’t be silly! He was going to LA from the get go.
@@fernandoposada5440 you don’t understand, Yamamoto Has been Dodgers fan since childhood and once he was told by his hero Ohtani that there was plenty of money for him, the deal was done between them. He went to the Yankees and Mets to get his bargaining price up once one of the two teams put what he wanted in writing he ran back to the dodgers with it. Eisen’s anger with the Yankees is misplaced. Yamamoto indicated he wanted to be the big fish in the pond, he lied. New York is that place, he’ll forever be the 2nd banana on the Dodgers and he still has to prove he deserves the contract. I’ll criticize the Yankees if they don’t spend the $300 million to improve the team.
Money had nothing to do with it. Yamamoto is hitching his wagon to Ohtani. He wanted Japans 2 best players on the same team. Every kid in Japan is now a dodgers fan. Go Yanks
I’d bet that even if the Yankees offered $350 million he still would’ve gone to LA. Better weather to pitch and live, chance to play with his buddy Ohtani, chance to team with another Japanese superstar and help lead a team a championship, much more laid back fans and media (Yankees fans once booed the only unanimous hall of famer, the best ever to do it, after a few blown saves.) Even before he joined the team the Dodgers were a better team than the Yankees and have made the playoffs far more consistently as of recent history.
It wouldn’t matter if the Yankees drafted and developed players well, they’d have more than enough money to compete, while staying under luxury tax. Problem is most but a few of their heralded prospects have been utter busts.
Japanese people don't think very well of Matsui's decision to leave the Yankees, even though he played well and became World Champion MVP. After this, most Japanese people started hating the Yankees. Even now, the Yankees' reputation is in the worst condition in Japan. Meanwhile, the Dodgers have transformed into a popular team thanks to Ohtani. A significant number of Japanese players who respect Ohtani hope to join the Dodgers as a free agent in the future.
If people hate the Yankees, it's usually due to the bad impression of fanbase or media and not what happened to the previous Japanese player And simply the Yankees just became less popular than they used to
@@SA-hk7bw may be true in the US, but definitely not in Japan. Regardless of the media, Japanese people are conservative and value relationships with other people. Hatred of the Yankees is a tradition among people of all ages and genders. However, the Dodgers are currently overwhelmingly popular in Japan, but if the Dodgers make a mistake in their response to Yamamoto Otani, the future impression of Japanese will be the same as the current Yankees.
Now they're saying they have to overpay Montgomery. Why overpaid for Montgomery and not Yamamoto. The Yankees front office was so stupid that couldn't see the writing wall. The Yankees front office got outsmarted by Ohtani! As soon as i heard about Ohtani contact i knew Yamamoto was next to wear a Dodgers uniform. The Yankees were betting on otani wanting to wear number 18. Come on!!!! The Yankees are know an embarrassment to their fans and a laughing stock of the league. No team is afraid to play the Yankees and elite players don't want to come here. The Yankees can say goodbye to Cole and Soto next. Don't be surprised if Soto becomes dodgers. Yankees will have a lot more free time in the fall. We won't see number 28 for awhile.
How do you think I feel when I found out that Shohei gave his team the Angels one last chance and after everything else Arte has done he refused Ohtani. We we never know for sure but it very well could be the Angels sitting pretty right now with Ohtani and Yamamoto. Heck maybe they pull off the trade with Detmers and Sandoval for Glasnow. How do I support a team that has an owner that just proved he is not willing to spend money that he has to win. What the heck is Trout still doing there
And this fact is demonstrated by the fact that although the total amount was $25 million less, their offer was for 10 years (not 12), so he would've actually gotten $3 million *more* per year. You think his tipping point was the chance to get an extra $12.5 million a year for two additional years? No. The three offers were virtually identical. He clearly wanted to be a Dodger and play with Ohtani. I like blaming the Yankee front office as much as anyone, but this one isn't on them. The media simply got this one dead wrong. He didn't want to be a Yankee. He wanted to be a Dodger. Period.
Yep, nailed it. I'm not shy about blaming the Yanks front office either when sh** like this happens, but this one is totally a set-up by Yamamoto. MLB needs to change the rules to not allow crazy deferments like Ohtani got, but the union would never agree to it.@@Rocky2418
U know why the Yankees stopped at 300? Cz they didn't want to piss off Garrett Cole, real talk Think bout when soto gets his bag from the Yankees and how dats going to make judge feel. These things matter in bb, it's called chemistry
players salaries go up not down.Coles salary has nothing to do with this. They did his deal 4 years ago, obv someone was gonna come around and break it. As for judge, judge is 6 years older than soto. Soto is gonna make way more than him cause of his age. Judge wants to win, so he will want the nyy to pay whatever his market value ends up being.
If that matters to the Yankees and Judge than Soto certainly won’t be a Yankee next year. He’ll be looking for 200 million more than what Judge got and I doubt he’s going to do the Yankees a favor by leaving money on the table like Judge did.
Business is business. I respect Hal for having a line. Its not like hes a cheapskate. He has a bunch of huge contracts on his payroll. 325 for a guy that has never thrown an mlb pitch? Of course, it could have been a “hey see yankees fans i tried” when he knew others would offer more so he didnt have to pay the actual $. Who knows?
I wouldnt give 300 plus mill to a player who has never showcased his talent in the majors 🙄 Dbacks just swept the Dodgers in the playoffs I bet you the Dodgers wont win the world series this year
I am worried about the future of the game we love. The small market teams just cannot compete. If I lived in one of those places, why would I follow the local team when they almost always have no chance?
Dude I live in arizona and diamondback fans are an absolute joke. They get to the world series and still I don't see any diamondback supporters. You can't be mad that people want to see the dodgers.. yankeees etc. Maybe we need less teams in shitty cities 😂
Rich is silly here, I agree with earlier posts. He was going to the Dodgers. Imagine the Mets, they matched the price. How come he is not with the Mets. As the Eagles sang Rich, Get Over It!
No one seems to be acknowledging the fact the Yankees offer is a higher AAV than the other 2 offers, and with opt outs he'll never see that original contract to the end. Whether he goes free agent or they keep him and add years and money, hes not playing under that contract for 12 years
Hes not gonna opt out. He will get tommy john sometime in the next 5 years. Every japanese pitcher is damaged goods, and end up needing major surgery. And he wont opt out at his 2nd opportunity cause hes gonna be washed up, and won't get more money. Japanese starting pitchers never live up to the hype. They are usually good overall, but are also injury prone, give up too many hrs, and walk too many.
@@robotbro7187 All pitchers not named Gerrit Cole get hurt. It's the mentality of all out, as long as you can that has so many guys blowing their elbows out. So I wouldn't be surprised if Yamamoto blows his elbow out, hell Ohtani did 2x in 6 years. But I'd still bet on , at the very least, they add on years and dollars like the Yankees did with Sabathia. Maybe they just add dollars. Players don't have those opt out clauses and not use them as leverage at least
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that? 400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
So I’m confused. The Yankees offered a sooner opt out more money in the first five years and didn’t back load the contract as the dodgers did according to the athletic but you complain about the 25 mil. Honestly if he’s as good as everyone says the Yankees offer is better. He would have been able to opt out at his age 30 season and possibly make way more with the way contracts increase. He just wanted to be in la. I can’t blame him.
@@fernandoposada5440 that figured into the first 5 year calculation. He still would have made more in the first 5 years according to the athletic with the other contract and could have opted out sooner and made more if he’s really good. There is still an expectation of an explosion of pitching contracts next year based off the next year’s free agents. 27 AAV might look like a steal if the expectations of contracts increases happens next year.
yankees offer was actually for more money than the rest of the teams. 10 years for $300 is a higher AAV ($30 million per year) than 12 years for $325 million ($27.1 million per year)
@@oscarcamarena1241 We know 2 of the 3 teams had opt out clauses. We don't know about the Yankees. If he opts out, he would have made the most money with the Yankees. If he doesn't opt out, it means he doesn't believe he can get more money on the open market than what he has guarantee. The way the market goes, if he doesn't think he can get more than 6 years $160 million (what Carlos Rodon got last year) as a 31 year old free agent, then he either got injured or didn't live up to the hype. If that's the case, congrats to Dodgers getting stuck with that contract. Yankees had the better offer.
@@kinggremlin4574 reports today are the yankees also had 2 opt outs, each a year earlier than what he got with LA, so he could of been a FA after year 4 Same reports also state his contract with LA is backloaded, the one Yankees offered was not, it was $30 million for each year
@@joshualoignon7341 All that just further makes it obvious, he didn't want to play for the Yankees. I'm disappointed the Yankees didn't get him, but I'm fine with what the Yankee front office offered. I don't believe there is anything more they could have realistically done to sign him.
@@kinggremlin4574 100%...he and Ohtani most likely planed to go to the Dodgers back during the WBC and used all the other teams to drive up the money Both ended up getting 100 to 200 million more than what most people thought they would get
No, actually the Yankees are still the most valuable franchise and the most revenue. A rich owner isn't the franchise. If I own a McDonald's franchise, it doesn't mean I'm pulling money out of my checking account to hire the managers LOL
@@ericpantalone5229 I get what you're saying, but I don't think any team comes close to the Dodgers right now. They're easily the most valuable franchise now, and will no doubt rake in the most money. That will be the case even if they DON'T make an appearance and/or win the World Series. If they do though? Then there won't even be an argument to be had
The Yanks and Mets HAD to know the LA had a huge advantage when it came down to it. They had Shohei, who could take him around town, show him the sights, while wearing light clothing cuz the weather is infinitely better out there this time of year. I'm from the Northeast, and I would never sign with a team out there (Like I have the option) cuz the weather is abhorrent
I feel your pain RE and Yankees fans. Baseball's pain is this: There are 5 MLB teams, OK, maybe 6, that splash the cash and dominate the headlines. All other franchises feed the beast, except for the occasional interloper that punches above its weight, with regard to payroll, and makes for a charming underdog story every other year. It's hard to grow interest across the entire sport when the real interest is in the mega-teams and their ability to acquire mega-stars. Then again, maybe the point of it all is not access to championships but access to air time, in which case everything is just fine. Go Expos go!
it wasnt about money , unlike some americans, money isnt everything. he wants to play with Shohei Ohtani, A fellow Japanese player and a great. you go live in japan without speaking language or knowing culture, its a big shock. So I can understand why he signed with Dodgers, the money wasn't the issue, but you got to get what you can, don't you agree Rich. take kids to Dodgers games to see yankees.
If it wasn't about money, why did the it take the biggest contract for a pitcher in history to sign him? HE set the starting bid at $300 million. It wasn't about money? Pull your head out of your @$$, of course it was.
@@kinggremlin4574 a bidding war, and an agent by duty has to max the revenue of his client. Having Lived in Japan, you have to understand the mindset of the player as well.
@@piratezippy If it isn't about the money for Yamamoto, then why hire an agent, which according to you, only cares about getting the most money? You're contradicting yourself. It always comes down to money in free agency. Yamamoto set a starting bid at $300million and ended up picking the highest bid. But it's not about money. Just absurd denial of reality.
@@aaronfifty5 you a young foreigner and have the chance to play alongside the greatest japanese baseball talent, he speaks your language and you can connect. Same reason why Henry left Inter Milan and took less wages to go to Arsenal. Because he could have gone to United but knowing Pires and Petite was there he said made the desicison. it was up to his agent to get the max he could
The competitive balance in the league has been destroyed by the Ohtani contract deferring all that money. The owners are going to realize that by deferring all that money the Dodgers won’t pay the luxury tax that they would have shared. Small market teams get screwed in the process. STUPID
Why on earth is Hal being so stingy? Why? This shows a deep lack of competitive will. The Yankees were ALWAYS competitive. This isn't the Marlins, the isn't the A's, this isn't the Pirates. It has to be a lack of enthusiasm to actually compete. My guess is Hal has enough money and is comfortable with what he inherited.
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that? 400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
I would’ve come back and said I’ll give you 350 spread out over 12 years that’s an extra 4 million a season not to mention you might be able to convince him to defer some of the money like Ohtani, Soto fell into our lap we needed to go get Yamamoto and the front office failed what a clown show
Am I the only one that doesn’t give a sh!t that we didn’t get this guy! 325 mil, sorry man take the money! You are not worth that much. If he pans out, so what, this frees them up to do other things.
Mets needed to bid an offer that LA and Yankees couldn't match. Same bid then the obvious choice is LA. Cohen made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3 time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that? 400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
when will these idiots figure out you can't buy a championship any more. george knew nothing about baseball he just threw money at it. those days are over. the yankees spend enough they just don't spend it wisely. there are too many teams in the playoffs so spending guarantees you nothing. giving players 300 or 400 million long term contracts is stupid. good luck with this paradigm.
Well, $300M are still a lot of money. And if it wasn't good enough to get Yamamoto, then it wasn't meant to be. One door closed, another door will open. The Yankees should be able to get a few good pitchers . What happened cannot be undone. Let's move on. However, the Yankees might see more big disappointment when Roki Sasaki becomes a free agent. It's highly possible that he will go to the Dodgers because of Ohtani and Yamamoto. Ohtani, Yamamoto and Sasaki were WBC teammates and Sasaki adores Ohtani. Ohtani has paved the golden road from Japan to the Dodgers. They will get more Japanese players in the future and it's good for the Dodgers but I'm not so sure if it's good for MLB. MLB might make some new rules about free agent contract and the number of free agent they can acquire from Japan. It sounds like unamerican but it could happen.
It wasn't the money. Yamamoto said yesterday during his press conference that he always wanted to be a Dodger. He used the Yankees as a bargaining chip.
Wouldn't matter if they Yankees got Yamamoto. They're still slow and are prone to defensive errors and their biggest get, in Soto, one of the worst outfielders in the league. The Yanks have a shot if they stay healthy, but that's next to impossible with their best players.
He didn’t want to come to New York. All along his plan was to go to the Dodgers. As a longtime yankee fan , I’m glad they didn’t get him. The guy never through a pitch in the MLB. He’s too small and will get Tommy John surgery. This will be the biggest bust in MLB history .
325. The signing bonus is up front money due when he signed, a check for $50. The posting fee of $50 is paid to his former team in Japan for his rights/buying out his contract.
Yankees aready have the best pitcher in the game when considering performance AND durability....Make due with adding some solid starters. Dont need multiple $300m pitchers to compete. Rangers won with an injured Scherzer, a solid Eovaldi and Monty....
Who Rich should be angry at is MLB for allowing Ohtani to sign that ridiculous backloaded contract that allows the Dodgers to skirt the payroll tax and thereby be able to afford Yamamoto.
It is clear that the kid did not want to come to New York. And it's very easy for Rich to spend someone else's money. We are talking about a guy who has not pitched a single inning in MLB. Good on the Yankees for drawing a line in the sand.
As a jet fan I relate to rich's rants on them but as a mets fan it is funny to see him sad over the yankees haha granted this is sad for us met fans too.
As a Yankee fan I have no problem not getting Yamamoto as long as they are going to use the money to keep Soto. That’s just too much to pay for someone who’s never thrown a pitch here.
Some math for my fellow frustrated Yankee fans, if the contract was over 12 years it would have barely been over an extra 2 million a year. If it was over 9 years it wouldn’t even have been an extra 3 million a year. Seriously what are we doing? 🤦🏽♂️
12 years is also 2 more years and he likely won't be nearly the pitcher he is now near the end of his contract. Number of years is just as important as dollar amount. The Yankees didn't want to give him 325 million and they didn't want to give him 12 years. Heck, they don't even know if he'll actually be any good at all in the MLB.
He let the Mets set the price, then let the Dodgers match and never went back to the Mets to see if they would offer more. Yankees $300 million was for 10 years, so they had the highest AAV. We know the Mets and Dodgers had opt outs, so assuming the Yankees did too, they're contract could have been the most lucrative. He wanted to be in LA. He played the Yankees and Mets to get a bigger offer from the Dodgers. Nothing the 2 NY teams could have done would have mattered.
Yankees must have figured he wasn’t serious in signing with them. Why drive up the price so he can get a bigger contract with the Dodgers? He wanted to play on the same team as Ohtani.
Yamamoto always wanted to go to the Dodgers, even Cohen said he could have outbid the Dodgers then the Dodgers just would have raised their offer. YAMAMOTO was never going to the Yankees, grow up man child lolol
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that? 400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
He was never coming to NY. It was all about getting the highest offer and then going back to the Dodgers to match. This was already done the minute Shohei signed and deferred most of his contract. C’mon Rich, you know better.
The Yankees didn't get outbid, they chose to stop at $300m. They offered more money per season, including more money through the first five seasons. Yamamoto wanted the Dodgers the whole time; was taking anything the other teams offered & brought it back to the Dodgers. Hal caught on, made their final offer & here we are. Nothing more nothing less. As for you fake Yankee fans out there, stfu. If you can't be positive & stand on business for our pinstripes go take a seat. As for the team, the show goes on with OR without some guy who's never thrown so much as a warmup throw in MLB. He's talented yes, but he's not some pitching Messiah. Yamamoto is trash compared to Roki Sasaki(who is younger, better & less expensive.) The show goes on & we have offseason moves to make. Either get on board, check off at the next stop or move the hell out of the way. That's about the only way I can put it for you. Now, buck up & come on. We got business to stand on.
The flip side is what if one of these guys gets a long term injury? Dodgers spent a lot of money last year too: Diamondbacks made the World Series though… The money the Dodgers spent might come back to bite them. Mind you watching Yankees fans get upset about being out bid is the ultimate in irony.
Yankees offer was objectively a better one. He always wanted to go to the Dodgers and used the NY teams as leverage. Can’t blame the Yankees front office for that. This is coming from a Yankees fan not so thrilled with the performance of the front office the last 5+ years. We got Soto and will upgrade the pitching. Yamamoto probably would’ve got in the way of resigning Soto, who is more important to the Yankees going forward imo.
The Yankees never were in it anyway. Ohtani and Yamamoto worked this out together before Ohtani signed. The reason he deferred was so they could sign Yamamoto. Following nba players lead going to teams together.
the Yankees had the Highest AAV with 30 mill every year for ten years with an option after five years. the dodgers gave him an AAV of 27 Mill with opt out after 6 years.. you tell me who gave him more money.. they could have gave him another 2 years but they drew the line in the sand and said we are not getting played anymore. what i think is the yankees never had a chance at Yamamoto once Ohtani was signed with Dodgers it was 2 for 1 deal..
I would have been happy if the Yankees signed him but I think this actually is better for them. We are talking about an unproven major-league pitcher after all who has a ton of mileage on his arm because of how many pitches they throw over there. It’s not uncommon for him to throw 130 pitches. Ohtani is on his second Tommy John surgery, and to give this guy a 12 year contract could end up in disaster. This will actually allow us a much better chance to resign Soto and add other pieces.
why should he be outraged by that? this isn't the real world where we need more egalitarianism. This is sports. And it's not the fault of the big cities that there's less money in second and third rate cities. Grow up.
@@daharos I prefer a sport like Football where the NFL manages to keep things competitive. Kansas City has no chance in Baseball but can win Championships in Football. Maybe I should grow up and root for the Dodgers or Yankees instead of the Cardinals.
There needs to be a salary cap. There just does. The games the Dodgers are playing deferring salary money should also be banned. If you are paying someone $70 million a season to play ball, then it should count for that amount and against the hard salary cap that needs to be imposed. I am a Yankees fan and always have been, but I must say that this wild, reckless spending must be stopped somehow. The middle class will soon not be able to attend a MLB game at all in person.
please consider. There are many contract conditions, especially for star players, who postpone their retirement plans. If he didn't put it off, he would cause trouble for the other players, and the team would drop out without being able to strengthen their players. Being a world champion would be a dream come true.
Perhaps the Yankees should have matched the offer as the Mets did. Then it makes it abundantly clear the Dodgers were really the only choice for Yamamoto.
Gerrit Cole, resigning Judge, Carlos Rodon, trading for Soto. Lay off the drugs, Yankees have gotten most of the targets they've coveted the last few years.
Dodgers missed out on Cole because he grew up a Yankee fan. Yankees missed out on Yamamoto because he grew up a Dodgers fan. When the money is similar that matters, A LOT
He's not a Dodger fan...they offered the most $$ and Cali location and Ohtani made the deal happen.
@@nyjohn-dk6xt he grew up a big Dodgers fan and all his friends knew he was a big fan. Just google “Yamamoto Dodgers fan”
They offered more which you can argue attempts to get him closer to 300 mil post taxes.
It was reported that he indeed was a Hideo Nomo/Dodger fan growing up in Japan.
@@nyjohn-dk6xtwrong, he 100% grew up a Dodger fan.
In hindsight, this cost the Yankees the World Series.
1000 percent right Rich. Hal's an apathetic, bean-counter. Yankees died with George.
Hal ruined the Yankees.
In this case you’re wrong. How can you not see that NY was used to jack the price up in the Dodgers?
I love the game, I really do! But when athletes make more money than surgeons, engineers, and doctors we have some really big societal issues!
@@yosefyahu4778If the athletes made less, it would just mean the owners would make more money. They command these salaries due to the income they generate for their teams. Would you rather billionaires kept that extra revenue instead? There is no societal issue here at all.
@@SweetZombiJesus haha! Think about your question! You totally missed the point! Lol!
Been a dodger fan my entire life. Honestly this is the most excited I’ve ever been to be a fan of them
Just keep that same energy when the Dodgers are knocked out first round bucko
@@John-mw8fwYou guys crack me up, the same cope comments everytime. Just admit that you’re fuming with rage that the dodgers are actually spending money.
@@knoxconaryYankee fan here, fuming. You are right. No argument there. Congratulations. The way you feel now is how I felt in the late 90s.
@@knoxconary Except they aren't really spending money. They're playing games with the luxury tax limit to avoid spending money. Allowing a team to defer 97% of a contract is absurd by any rational standards. I'm not mad at the Dodgers, I'm mad at MLB allowing such a move to be possible. If the Dodgers actually had to pay their players the AAV of their contract every year, they would not have been able to afford their current roster.
yes they would...they are loaded...
I love listening to Rich talk baseball
Normally, it would be unthinkable for a pitcher's contract to last more than 10 years, such as 10 years for Ohtani and 12 years for Yamamoto. The Dodgers' message to Japan is ``To everyone in Japan, please continue to love the Dodgers for a long time!'' 'The Dodgers' seriousness is conveyed through their contracts. Japan is currently buzzing with talk about the Dodgers.
I'm a Seinfeld and Dodgers fan and, his right here? This right here made my day haha.
3 more players are going to sign on after Yamamoto and it's going to be insane!
He was Never coming to New York ! Just needed one of the two New York teams to raise the dollars to what he wanted the Dodgers to match. Don’t be silly! He was going to LA from the get go.
@bernardcorvi2807 Completely agree….I strongly believe LA ,Othani and Yama were together on this
Exactly
Wrong . The mets were used to drive up the offer . The yankees didnt even offer a signing bonus . The mets and dodgers did
@@fernandoposada5440 you don’t understand, Yamamoto Has been Dodgers fan since childhood and once he was told by his hero Ohtani that there was plenty of money for him, the deal was done between them. He went to the Yankees and Mets to get his bargaining price up once one of the two teams put what he wanted in writing he ran back to the dodgers with it. Eisen’s anger with the Yankees is misplaced. Yamamoto indicated he wanted to be the big fish in the pond, he lied. New York is that place, he’ll forever be the 2nd banana on the Dodgers and he still has to prove he deserves the contract. I’ll criticize the Yankees if they don’t spend the $300 million to improve the team.
No you dont understand , 375 mill and 12 years is much better than 300 mill and 10 years plain and simple
Money had nothing to do with it. Yamamoto is hitching his wagon to Ohtani. He wanted Japans 2 best players on the same team. Every kid in Japan is now a dodgers fan. Go Yanks
WRONG ...DEAD WRONG ... Japanese Kids are Fans on their NPB 🇯🇵Teams NOT MLB ...
375 mill and 12 years is better than 300 mill
I’d bet that even if the Yankees offered $350 million he still would’ve gone to LA. Better weather to pitch and live, chance to play with his buddy Ohtani, chance to team with another Japanese superstar and help lead a team a championship, much more laid back fans and media (Yankees fans once booed the only unanimous hall of famer, the best ever to do it, after a few blown saves.)
Even before he joined the team the Dodgers were a better team than the Yankees and have made the playoffs far more consistently as of recent history.
400M would have sealed the deal
It wouldn’t matter if the Yankees drafted and developed players well, they’d have more than enough money to compete, while staying under luxury tax. Problem is most but a few of their heralded prospects have been utter busts.
Japanese people don't think very well of Matsui's decision to leave the Yankees, even though he played well and became World Champion MVP. After this, most Japanese people started hating the Yankees. Even now, the Yankees' reputation is in the worst condition in Japan.
Meanwhile, the Dodgers have transformed into a popular team thanks to Ohtani. A significant number of Japanese players who respect Ohtani hope to join the Dodgers as a free agent in the future.
In Japan 🇯🇵 They follow their NPB Teams NOT MLB
They follow both but more NPB! @T.C.Clarien
@@PapaBoat777 ...Yes
If people hate the Yankees, it's usually due to the bad impression of fanbase or media and not what happened to the previous Japanese player
And simply the Yankees just became less popular than they used to
@@SA-hk7bw may be true in the US, but definitely not in Japan. Regardless of the media, Japanese people are conservative and value relationships with other people. Hatred of the Yankees is a tradition among people of all ages and genders. However, the Dodgers are currently overwhelmingly popular in Japan, but if the Dodgers make a mistake in their response to Yamamoto Otani, the future impression of Japanese will be the same as the current Yankees.
I wholeheartedly agree!
Now they're saying they have to overpay Montgomery. Why overpaid for Montgomery and not Yamamoto. The Yankees front office was so stupid that couldn't see the writing wall. The Yankees front office got outsmarted by Ohtani! As soon as i heard about Ohtani contact i knew Yamamoto was next to wear a Dodgers uniform. The Yankees were betting on otani wanting to wear number 18. Come on!!!! The Yankees are know an embarrassment to their fans and a laughing stock of the league. No team is afraid to play the Yankees and elite players don't want to come here. The Yankees can say goodbye to Cole and Soto next. Don't be surprised if Soto becomes dodgers. Yankees will have a lot more free time in the fall. We won't see number 28 for awhile.
$350 million to play a child's game in a world of starving children. Fucking obscene.
The NYY haven't spent a dime so far the Mets haven't either. except severino and a reliever. now the Yankees have to get Montgomery or Snell.
The Dodgers would've matched any Yankees offer- he was never coming to NY. Go.get Cease & Monty.
Cease is an average pitcher why are people so high on him ?!
How do you think I feel when I found out that Shohei gave his team the Angels one last chance and after everything else Arte has done he refused Ohtani. We we never know for sure but it very well could be the Angels sitting pretty right now with Ohtani and Yamamoto. Heck maybe they pull off the trade with Detmers and Sandoval for Glasnow. How do I support a team that has an owner that just proved he is not willing to spend money that he has to win. What the heck is Trout still doing there
He played the Yankees, he didn’t want to be a Yankee, he and Othani planned this out .
Exactly!
I agree 100%. He didn’t want NY period.
And this fact is demonstrated by the fact that although the total amount was $25 million less, their offer was for 10 years (not 12), so he would've actually gotten $3 million *more* per year. You think his tipping point was the chance to get an extra $12.5 million a year for two additional years? No. The three offers were virtually identical. He clearly wanted to be a Dodger and play with Ohtani. I like blaming the Yankee front office as much as anyone, but this one isn't on them. The media simply got this one dead wrong. He didn't want to be a Yankee. He wanted to be a Dodger. Period.
Yep, nailed it. I'm not shy about blaming the Yanks front office either when sh** like this happens, but this one is totally a set-up by Yamamoto. MLB needs to change the rules to not allow crazy deferments like Ohtani got, but the union would never agree to it.@@Rocky2418
Rich and his ilk are in denial.
U know why the Yankees stopped at 300? Cz they didn't want to piss off Garrett Cole, real talk
Think bout when soto gets his bag from the Yankees and how dats going to make judge feel.
These things matter in bb, it's called chemistry
players salaries go up not down.Coles salary has nothing to do with this. They did his deal 4 years ago, obv someone was gonna come around and break it. As for judge, judge is 6 years older than soto. Soto is gonna make way more than him cause of his age. Judge wants to win, so he will want the nyy to pay whatever his market value ends up being.
If that matters to the Yankees and Judge than Soto certainly won’t be a Yankee next year. He’ll be looking for 200 million more than what Judge got and I doubt he’s going to do the Yankees a favor by leaving money on the table like Judge did.
Bingo! My same thoughts exactly.
Love You Rich Eisen!!!!!! God Bless You!!!!
He might have wanted to play with Ohtani the whole time anyway, would have mattered
More money would have changed that easily
Business is business. I respect Hal for having a line. Its not like hes a cheapskate. He has a bunch of huge contracts on his payroll. 325 for a guy that has never thrown an mlb pitch? Of course, it could have been a “hey see yankees fans i tried” when he knew others would offer more so he didnt have to pay the actual $. Who knows?
Just like like Ohtani, Ichiro, Tanaka, Kuroda, Nomo, Matsui and many others? lol
they didn't have ohtani to sweeten the pot. I think they knew it wasn't gonna happen.
I think they wanted to dream
I wouldnt give 300 plus mill to a player who has never showcased his talent in the majors 🙄 Dbacks just swept the Dodgers in the playoffs I bet you the Dodgers wont win the world series this year
Just like like Ohtani, Ichiro, Tanaka, Kuroda, Nomo, Matsui and many others? lol
I am worried about the future of the game we love. The small market teams just cannot compete. If I lived in one of those places, why would I follow the local team when they almost always have no chance?
But this has always been the case in the MLB.
Dude I live in arizona and diamondback fans are an absolute joke. They get to the world series and still I don't see any diamondback supporters. You can't be mad that people want to see the dodgers.. yankeees etc. Maybe we need less teams in shitty cities 😂
And the As fan are an absolute joke... never support their team but the year they decide to get out of that horrid city fans show up and protest?😅
You still have to play the games
Rich is silly here, I agree with earlier posts. He was going to the Dodgers. Imagine the Mets, they matched the price. How come he is not with the Mets. As the Eagles sang Rich, Get Over It!
Yamamoto never wanted to go to the Yankees. Yankee fans' minds just can't handle that.
Exactly! He used the two NY teams in order to get the price up. After Ohtani signed in LA, it was a wrap he was going to end up there.
No one seems to be acknowledging the fact the Yankees offer is a higher AAV than the other 2 offers, and with opt outs he'll never see that original contract to the end. Whether he goes free agent or they keep him and add years and money, hes not playing under that contract for 12 years
Hes not gonna opt out. He will get tommy john sometime in the next 5 years. Every japanese pitcher is damaged goods, and end up needing major surgery. And he wont opt out at his 2nd opportunity cause hes gonna be washed up, and won't get more money. Japanese starting pitchers never live up to the hype. They are usually good overall, but are also injury prone, give up too many hrs, and walk too many.
@@robotbro7187 All pitchers not named Gerrit Cole get hurt. It's the mentality of all out, as long as you can that has so many guys blowing their elbows out. So I wouldn't be surprised if Yamamoto blows his elbow out, hell Ohtani did 2x in 6 years. But I'd still bet on , at the very least, they add on years and dollars like the Yankees did with Sabathia. Maybe they just add dollars. Players don't have those opt out clauses and not use them as leverage at least
You forget that the deal was actually 375 mill with the 50 milk signing bonus which the yankees didnt offer
100% right . Yankees lowballed yamamoto plain and simple .
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that?
400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
Oh i agree . But he still owes those two vets for another year . Yankees didnt even offer a sugning bonus
So I’m confused. The Yankees offered a sooner opt out more money in the first five years and didn’t back load the contract as the dodgers did according to the athletic but you complain about the 25 mil. Honestly if he’s as good as everyone says the Yankees offer is better. He would have been able to opt out at his age 30 season and possibly make way more with the way contracts increase. He just wanted to be in la. I can’t blame him.
he wants to play with Othani
@@TheManPromised yes that’s what wanting to be in LA means. Which is what I said.
Exactly. The Yankees offer was better.
You forget the yankees didnt offer a signing bonus like the dodgers and mets did .
@@fernandoposada5440 that figured into the first 5 year calculation. He still would have made more in the first 5 years according to the athletic with the other contract and could have opted out sooner and made more if he’s really good. There is still an expectation of an explosion of pitching contracts next year based off the next year’s free agents. 27 AAV might look like a steal if the expectations of contracts increases happens next year.
Rich, everyone the NYY will be better off when we resign Soto who is a f’n legend in the making. We’ll look back and laugh!
lol😂
yankees offer was actually for more money than the rest of the teams. 10 years for $300 is a higher AAV ($30 million per year) than 12 years for $325 million ($27.1 million per year)
We’re taking about guaranteed money tho.
Yankees were simply outbid.
@@oscarcamarena1241 We know 2 of the 3 teams had opt out clauses. We don't know about the Yankees. If he opts out, he would have made the most money with the Yankees. If he doesn't opt out, it means he doesn't believe he can get more money on the open market than what he has guarantee. The way the market goes, if he doesn't think he can get more than 6 years $160 million (what Carlos Rodon got last year) as a 31 year old free agent, then he either got injured or didn't live up to the hype. If that's the case, congrats to Dodgers getting stuck with that contract. Yankees had the better offer.
@@kinggremlin4574 reports today are the yankees also had 2 opt outs, each a year earlier than what he got with LA, so he could of been a FA after year 4
Same reports also state his contract with LA is backloaded, the one Yankees offered was not, it was $30 million for each year
@@joshualoignon7341 All that just further makes it obvious, he didn't want to play for the Yankees. I'm disappointed the Yankees didn't get him, but I'm fine with what the Yankee front office offered. I don't believe there is anything more they could have realistically done to sign him.
@@kinggremlin4574 100%...he and Ohtani most likely planed to go to the Dodgers back during the WBC and used all the other teams to drive up the money
Both ended up getting 100 to 200 million more than what most people thought they would get
Rich is living in the past. Dodgers and Mets are richer franchises now. Now the Yankees know how everyone else used to feel.
No, actually the Yankees are still the most valuable franchise and the most revenue. A rich owner isn't the franchise. If I own a McDonald's franchise, it doesn't mean I'm pulling money out of my checking account to hire the managers LOL
wrong. Dodgers outdraw the Yankees by nearly 1 million fans alone in attendance. TV deal is similar. @@ericpantalone5229
Yankees have the money. They are just not spending it they way others are now.
@@ericpantalone5229 I get what you're saying, but I don't think any team comes close to the Dodgers right now. They're easily the most valuable franchise now, and will no doubt rake in the most money. That will be the case even if they DON'T make an appearance and/or win the World Series. If they do though? Then there won't even be an argument to be had
@@TheGreyCrayonafter these moves to corner the Asian market you may be right. If it isn’t the trajectory of both teams suggests they soon will be.
The Yanks and Mets HAD to know the LA had a huge advantage when it came down to it. They had Shohei, who could take him around town, show him the sights, while wearing light clothing cuz the weather is infinitely better out there this time of year. I'm from the Northeast, and I would never sign with a team out there (Like I have the option) cuz the weather is abhorrent
"It's a Festivus,
for the rest of us."
Yankees simply didn’t want to exceed Cole’s contract.
I feel your pain RE and Yankees fans. Baseball's pain is this: There are 5 MLB teams, OK, maybe 6, that splash the cash and dominate the headlines. All other franchises feed the beast, except for the occasional interloper that punches above its weight, with regard to payroll, and makes for a charming underdog story every other year. It's hard to grow interest across the entire sport when the real interest is in the mega-teams and their ability to acquire mega-stars. Then again, maybe the point of it all is not access to championships but access to air time, in which case everything is just fine. Go Expos go!
You've just described every other sport. It's not a problem that's exclusive to baseball
Baseball has 2 seasons and the first one doesn't count.
it wasnt about money , unlike some americans, money isnt everything. he wants to play with Shohei Ohtani, A fellow Japanese player and a great. you go live in japan without speaking language or knowing culture, its a big shock. So I can understand why he signed with Dodgers, the money wasn't the issue, but you got to get what you can, don't you agree Rich. take kids to Dodgers games to see yankees.
If it wasn't about money, why did the it take the biggest contract for a pitcher in history to sign him? HE set the starting bid at $300 million. It wasn't about money? Pull your head out of your @$$, of course it was.
@@kinggremlin4574 a bidding war, and an agent by duty has to max the revenue of his client. Having Lived in Japan, you have to understand the mindset of the player as well.
Yankees offer him a single dollar more than LA, and he's a Yankee.
@@piratezippy If it isn't about the money for Yamamoto, then why hire an agent, which according to you, only cares about getting the most money? You're contradicting yourself. It always comes down to money in free agency. Yamamoto set a starting bid at $300million and ended up picking the highest bid. But it's not about money. Just absurd denial of reality.
@@aaronfifty5 you a young foreigner and have the chance to play alongside the greatest japanese baseball talent, he speaks your language and you can connect. Same reason why Henry left Inter Milan and took less wages to go to Arsenal. Because he could have gone to United but knowing Pires and Petite was there he said made the desicison. it was up to his agent to get the max he could
The competitive balance in the league has been destroyed by the Ohtani contract deferring all that money. The owners are going to realize that by deferring all that money the Dodgers won’t pay the luxury tax that they would have shared. Small market teams get screwed in the process. STUPID
I’m actually surprised MLB gave them that much leeway.
Fax
Why on earth is Hal being so stingy? Why? This shows a deep lack of competitive will. The Yankees were ALWAYS competitive. This isn't the Marlins, the isn't the A's, this isn't the Pirates. It has to be a lack of enthusiasm to actually compete. My guess is Hal has enough money and is comfortable with what he inherited.
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that?
400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
I would’ve come back and said I’ll give you 350 spread out over 12 years that’s an extra 4 million a season not to mention you might be able to convince him to defer some of the money like Ohtani, Soto fell into our lap we needed to go get Yamamoto and the front office failed what a clown show
I want to revisit Rich and this platform after the Dodgers sign Sasaki in a few years.🤣🤣🤣
Am I the only one that doesn’t give a sh!t that we didn’t get this guy! 325 mil, sorry man take the money! You are not worth that much. If he pans out, so what, this frees them up to do other things.
He didn't want to come to NY. If he did, he could have taken the Mets' offer. He used the NY teams to get the Dodgers to up their bid.
Mets needed to bid an offer that LA and Yankees couldn't match. Same bid then the obvious choice is LA. Cohen made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3 time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that?
400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
This man has never thrown a pitch in MLB.
Neither did Senga and Yamamoto is younger and better.
Doesn't. Need too ...THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
The hubris. He was never coming. He's where he wanted to be.
He too will be a King in Japan.
$25m. Pfft.
when will these idiots figure out you can't buy a championship any more. george knew nothing about baseball he just threw money at it. those days are over. the yankees spend enough they just don't spend it wisely. there are too many teams in the playoffs so spending guarantees you nothing. giving players 300 or 400 million long term contracts is stupid. good luck with this paradigm.
Well, $300M are still a lot of money. And if it wasn't good enough to get Yamamoto, then it wasn't meant to be. One door closed, another door will open. The Yankees should be able to get a few good pitchers . What happened cannot be undone. Let's move on.
However, the Yankees might see more big disappointment when Roki Sasaki becomes a free agent. It's highly possible that he will go to the Dodgers because of Ohtani and Yamamoto. Ohtani, Yamamoto and Sasaki were WBC teammates and Sasaki adores Ohtani.
Ohtani has paved the golden road from Japan to the Dodgers. They will get more Japanese players in the future and it's good for the Dodgers but I'm not so sure if it's good for MLB. MLB might make some new rules about free agent contract and the number of free agent they can acquire from Japan. It sounds like unamerican but it could happen.
It wasn't the money. Yamamoto said yesterday during his press conference that he always wanted to be a Dodger. He used the Yankees as a bargaining chip.
A Yankees fan enraged that his team can't compete for free agents? That's... Rich.
I think the word you were looking for is "won't", not "can't". That's the source of Rich's enragement.
And he has every right to be enraged
The money involved is just insane. So much money just for sports-stars.
Wouldn't matter if they Yankees got Yamamoto. They're still slow and are prone to defensive errors and their biggest get, in Soto, one of the worst outfielders in the league. The Yanks have a shot if they stay healthy, but that's next to impossible with their best players.
Soto is overrated. Look at his career stats. And yes poor defensive outfielder. No thanks.
He didn’t want to come to New York. All along his plan was to go to the Dodgers. As a longtime yankee fan , I’m glad they didn’t get him. The guy never through a pitch in the MLB. He’s too small and will get Tommy John surgery. This will be the biggest bust in MLB history .
He will prove you wrong….stay tuned.
bros acting like Japan didnt just outclass the entire world in a WBC @@mikem3789
Can’t wait for this to age badly lol
The Yankees are being arrogant with a player who couldn’t care less of the pedigree of the Yankees.
Dodgers gave him 375 million. $50 million signing bonus
325. The signing bonus is up front money due when he signed, a check for $50. The posting fee of $50 is paid to his former team in Japan for his rights/buying out his contract.
Over 300 million for a guy who never threw a major league pitch. I would of passed too.
Just like like Ohtani, Ichiro, Tanaka, Kuroda, Nomo, Matsui and many others? lol
They didn't get over 300 million.@@SuperJay12jay
Yankees aready have the best pitcher in the game when considering performance AND durability....Make due with adding some solid starters. Dont need multiple $300m pitchers to compete. Rangers won with an injured Scherzer, a solid Eovaldi and Monty....
The Rangers also have a much better lineup than the Yankees do right now. They could score at will against most teams.
Rangers got lucky with those trash players.
Who Rich should be angry at is MLB for allowing Ohtani to sign that ridiculous backloaded contract that allows the Dodgers to skirt the payroll tax and thereby be able to afford Yamamoto.
That kind of money deferred is literally a cheat code. Something a kid would do in franchise mode of MLB The Show. It should never ever happen again
It was Ohtani's idea to defer as much of his salary as possible. His agent told every team interested in signing him that's what he wanted to do.
Mets and Yanks dodged a disaster.
No they actually put themselves in the line of fire. Both loss to the Dodgers and Yamamoto and a WS title first year.
The Yankees are a bad organization. This was less about money than about winning
It is clear that the kid did not want to come to New York. And it's very easy for Rich to spend someone else's money. We are talking about a guy who has not pitched a single inning in MLB. Good on the Yankees for drawing a line in the sand.
They were trolled because the Dodgers were already going to get Yamamoto anyway because of Ohtani’s contract. Ohtani said he’d bring Yamamoto .
As a jet fan I relate to rich's rants on them but as a mets fan it is funny to see him sad over the yankees haha granted this is sad for us met fans too.
Mets fans are just used to it!😂😮
Him- oh now he’s wearing a dodger jersey
Me- smiled
Wait until Soto hits the FA market after 2024 and the Mets snag him from the Yankees. Yankee fans will go NUTS. LOL
It truly *is* a Festivus miracle!!!
I'm not a Yankees fan but I'm enraged with you. 😤
As a Yankee fan I have no problem not getting Yamamoto as long as they are going to use the money to keep Soto.
That’s just too much to pay for someone who’s never thrown a pitch here.
Some math for my fellow frustrated Yankee fans, if the contract was over 12 years it would have barely been over an extra 2 million a year.
If it was over 9 years it wouldn’t even have been an extra 3 million a year.
Seriously what are we doing? 🤦🏽♂️
Hal's an apathetic, bean-counter. Yankees died with George.
12 years is also 2 more years and he likely won't be nearly the pitcher he is now near the end of his contract. Number of years is just as important as dollar amount. The Yankees didn't want to give him 325 million and they didn't want to give him 12 years. Heck, they don't even know if he'll actually be any good at all in the MLB.
He let the Mets set the price, then let the Dodgers match and never went back to the Mets to see if they would offer more. Yankees $300 million was for 10 years, so they had the highest AAV. We know the Mets and Dodgers had opt outs, so assuming the Yankees did too, they're contract could have been the most lucrative. He wanted to be in LA. He played the Yankees and Mets to get a bigger offer from the Dodgers. Nothing the 2 NY teams could have done would have mattered.
Yankees must have figured he wasn’t serious in signing with them. Why drive up the price so he can get a bigger contract with the Dodgers? He wanted to play on the same team as Ohtani.
Gotta pivot to Monty lmao
Yamamoto's choice - makes sense for everybody. Blame is lame.
Travel to japan from la vs ny. He was never going to the east coast.
If the Yankees are cheaping out on $25 million, then there's more problems over there then we can possibly fathom.😂🤦
They made the right call not signing him
@@BrandRedactedBecause they would have ruined him 😂
Yamamoto always wanted to go to the Dodgers, even Cohen said he could have outbid the Dodgers then the Dodgers just would have raised their offer. YAMAMOTO was never going to the Yankees, grow up man child lolol
Mets and Yankees needed to bid an offer that LA couldn't match. They made a bad decision. Cohen gave 43M each to 2 aging 40 year old pitchers (Max and Verlander) last year and think 25 year old 3-time CY and MVP in Pacific league Yamamoto is worth less than that?
400M would have sealed the deal and hard for LA to match. Next year Roki Sasaki will join Superteam LA. Dynasty!
He was never coming to NY. It was all about getting the highest offer and then going back to the Dodgers to match. This was already done the minute Shohei signed and deferred most of his contract. C’mon Rich, you know better.
The Yankees didn't get outbid, they chose to stop at $300m. They offered more money per season, including more money through the first five seasons.
Yamamoto wanted the Dodgers the whole time; was taking anything the other teams offered & brought it back to the Dodgers.
Hal caught on, made their final offer & here we are. Nothing more nothing less.
As for you fake Yankee fans out there, stfu. If you can't be positive & stand on business for our pinstripes go take a seat.
As for the team, the show goes on with OR without some guy who's never thrown so much as a warmup throw in MLB. He's talented yes, but he's not some pitching Messiah.
Yamamoto is trash compared to Roki Sasaki(who is younger, better & less expensive.)
The show goes on & we have offseason moves to make.
Either get on board, check off at the next stop or move the hell out of the way.
That's about the only way I can put it for you.
Now, buck up & come on. We got business to stand on.
Yall cheap and cope harder the yankees are getting outclasses by Texas of all places.
The flip side is what if one of these guys gets a long term injury?
Dodgers spent a lot of money last year too: Diamondbacks made the World Series though…
The money the Dodgers spent might come back to bite them.
Mind you watching Yankees fans get upset about being out bid is the ultimate in irony.
They not Glasnow.
Yankees offer was objectively a better one. He always wanted to go to the Dodgers and used the NY teams as leverage. Can’t blame the Yankees front office for that. This is coming from a Yankees fan not so thrilled with the performance of the front office the last 5+ years. We got Soto and will upgrade the pitching. Yamamoto probably would’ve got in the way of resigning Soto, who is more important to the Yankees going forward imo.
Rich…cry me a river. I bet you never had a problem with the Yankees buying all their championships.
I don’t think it’s the money, it’s the 12 years.
It's simple: Yamamoto just wasn't interested in New York.
He was never going to NY, Yankees knew it and decided not to be used any further
Hal better be saving that cash for Soto next year!
The Yankees never were in it anyway. Ohtani and Yamamoto worked this out together before Ohtani signed. The reason he deferred was so they could sign Yamamoto. Following nba players lead going to teams together.
the Yankees had the Highest AAV with 30 mill every year for ten years with an option after five years. the dodgers gave him an AAV of 27 Mill with opt out after 6 years.. you tell me who gave him more money.. they could have gave him another 2 years but they drew the line in the sand and said we are not getting played anymore. what i think is the yankees never had a chance at Yamamoto once Ohtani was signed with Dodgers it was 2 for 1 deal..
blame it on Ty Schmidt of the Pat McAfee show 😂
I would have been happy if the Yankees signed him but I think this actually is better for them. We are talking about an unproven major-league pitcher after all who has a ton of mileage on his arm because of how many pitches they throw over there. It’s not uncommon for him to throw 130 pitches. Ohtani is on his second Tommy John surgery, and to give this guy a 12 year contract could end up in disaster. This will actually allow us a much better chance to resign Soto and add other pieces.
MLB imbalance of wealth and power is what Rich should be enraged about. The smaller market teams have no chance, compare it to NFL.
why should he be outraged by that? this isn't the real world where we need more egalitarianism. This is sports. And it's not the fault of the big cities that there's less money in second and third rate cities. Grow up.
@@daharos I prefer a sport like Football where the NFL manages to keep things competitive. Kansas City has no chance in Baseball but can win Championships in Football. Maybe I should grow up and root for the Dodgers or Yankees instead of the Cardinals.
Yankees should try and extend Soto if they have that much confidence in him.
i have a feeling they didnt want to upset Cole by giving Yamamoto a bigger contract, especially Yamamoto not having any MLB experience.
The big 4 into future are Dodgers, Astros, Toronto, and Mets.
Get Roki Sasaki. He is better than Yamamoto.
Can’t wait to see the meltdown after the Dodgers sign him too.
Unfortunately, Sasaki also wants to play for the Dodgers.
He's going to LA.
These studs are not Kershaw. @@mikem3789
ny never had a chance - y was going to la all the way
There needs to be a salary cap. There just does. The games the Dodgers are playing deferring salary money should also be banned. If you are paying someone $70 million a season to play ball, then it should count for that amount and against the hard salary cap that needs to be imposed. I am a Yankees fan and always have been, but I must say that this wild, reckless spending must be stopped somehow. The middle class will soon not be able to attend a MLB game at all in person.
please consider. There are many contract conditions, especially for star players, who postpone their retirement plans. If he didn't put it off, he would cause trouble for the other players, and the team would drop out without being able to strengthen their players. Being a world champion would be a dream come true.
Not having a team salary cap has killed MLB popularity
the cohen prediction on soto
Perhaps the Yankees should have matched the offer as the Mets did. Then it makes it abundantly clear the Dodgers were really the only choice for Yamamoto.
The current Yankees front office seems to be doing a lot of "pivoting" in the last few years.
Gerrit Cole, resigning Judge, Carlos Rodon, trading for Soto. Lay off the drugs, Yankees have gotten most of the targets they've coveted the last few years.