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Venom’s God Form
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ม.ค. 2024
- Venom (2021) Issue 29.
▸ EDDIE BROCK’S TOUR DE FORCE CONTINUES! While chaos has reigned for Dylan Brock and the Venom symbiote, EDDIE BROCK continues to kick ass and take no prisoners, fighting like hell to get back to them! Eddie started as a King in Black and has gone on a transformative journey that has put Meridius’ very existence into a state of uncertainty! But with Meridius’ fate thrown into question, so is Eddie’s - and his transformations aren’t over…
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Who remembers back when venom was just a guy in a living alien suit that hated spiderman💀💀💀
So back when venom was actually good?
He is more likeable as anti hero imo only villain Symbiote is Carnage
Hulk, Mr Sinister, Thor, Loki, Thanos, Surfer, Phoenix are all near TOAA level now and I'm sure I missed some. Looks like storm is on her way there too.
Who is Spiderman?
I do and I’m so tired of them milking Symbiote stuff man. It’s so boring and monotonous. It barely means anything if someone gets one
Pete shoulda kept the suit😂
-So Eddie becomes a hand.
-Then remembers what it is like to be a kid, and starts playing with toys.
-Nintendo toys
- Eddie brings them to life so they can play with them selves, since he is only a hand.
-Boom!!!-
SMASH BROTHERS
This current story arc of Venom helped me understand Kang’s agenda and now my brain doesn’t hurt when reading stories with Kang.
Once I saw Rob's video, i felt the same way until I watched it again and put myself in Kang's shoes and then I got it. His story is sad AF man...
I think folks may have missed this . . . Meridius' face is Kang's. @harryevens1111 pointed out, this is basically a variation of Kang's origins. So many parallels, but yeah . . .that face!!
Oh my god... the panel at 11:57 shows it perfectly!! Right on!!
The thing to remember is that Kang would never help somebody become more powerful than him. Ever. So there's a catch to him helping Eddie to become Meridius which will ultimately allow Kang to come out on top.
The Kang in Black?
@@KryyssTV that rolls off the tongue way, way too well....
@@cyprusmiraque It does seem like the kind of corney phrase a Marvel writer would slap on the title of a new crossover event. Kang in control of a multiversal symbiote army because he can easily defeat Meridius in single combat because he not only learned from watching Eddie train but also taught him how to fight. Then, by defeating the existing King In Black he becomes the new King In Black just as Eddie did with Knull except that Kang travels the multiverse defeating more and more Meridius varients to build a multiversal symbiote hivemind under his control.
I like this, could be cool to get a real origin for kang, is kang the eventually?
Now, usually circular time stuff like this would have a lot of plot holes. However, the story established extremely early on that each Eddy walks a different path. The only constant is the eventuality. The ONLY constant.
This means Moridius isn't guarenteed. Even with his garden. The garden merely increases the odds of Moridius.
This loops back to all Eddies walking different paths. Moridius might be the most frequent ending, but isn't guarenteed. This was also established as the defining point of the symbiotes compared to the ivory kings and such. The symbiotes represent freedom and chaos.
Now, i only have like 2 minutes left in the video, and this story doesn't seem close to being done.
I think the Eddie we saw do the assassination at the very beginning is the reason our eddie can break free of Moridius's plot. He's the "final form" of our current Eddie (excluding the eventuality and whatever the writers decide to do.)
All in all, I honestly believe this is the most straight forward and grounded timey wimey story I've seen.
Wait a minute you have the conclusion already. Thanks Rob I was waiting to see how Eddie becomes his ultimate form.
I never expected Eddie to become a godlike being in the Marvel universe, and I'm honestly very happy it did.
Same!
Agree former writer who wrote venom debut knull
Debut son Dylan reckon origin of the symbiote race knowledge
Of the king in black
Best things to happen for marvel
Same here
Eddie Brock the king in black will be a legend
Our boy really has grown up...
Peter was supposed to be the king in black.... He was always supposed to be the king in black...
I love this wayyyyyyy better than "Im Eddie im big i hate Spiderman" Cant wait to see Eddie kick Meridius ass
Agreed! Some people really prefer his simple villainy days for some reason. They were fun, but stagnant. Now? Eddie has so much to live and fight for, and he's doing so in an awesome story with great character development.
@hunterg.1300 EXACTLY it's nothing wrong with a little change and at least the explanation make since.... Even THE ENIGMA force aka captain Universe being a symbiote and the thing to kill Knull in the past and what gave Eddie his power up to win... That writing was genius to me... Because Captain Universe out of all things was the last thing I expected.. Only thing I hated in the run was Sentry... Even the whole Carnage story real fans know Carnage NEVER got the faith of a one on one...SYMBIOTEs being cosmic makes since their not from earth
Still less convoluted than the average X-men story
Lol
People hating on this storyline need to respect Venom and Eddie for all he is been through. I have faith that he may beat KIB Carnage. And before anyone say depends on the writer, it is just my wish for Venom plus Eddie Brock and my love for them
All I can think of is the Kang story you covered, he perpetuates himself into becoming who he’s meant to be but in this case the end of it is going to be a bit different
I loved the Kang story, Only myself left to conquer ". I think it resonates with some people, who are just trying to be the best versions of themselves and get lost in the goals justifying the means...How many business men started off good, wholesome people and a decade later, their morality is askew and they barely recognize themselves anymore. Or, trying to provide for a family or save a loved one and you start off with some questionable things and then end up being portrayed as the villain. I like the beginning and the end of his story most. You see this wide eyed kid who is just looking for a journey of adventure and knowledge and end up falling in love. Then that love dies and he tries to do everything in his power to change her fate, only to be fate's fool. I honestly have a lot of empathy and sadness for him. All he ever wanted to be was something more than just Nathaniel, and everyone can relate to that. Not wanting to be another ant in the colony. Now, the saying goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" but in this case, young Nathaniel couldn't see this. He couldn't fathom what he was marching towards. All to save the one he loved. It's like Anakin. All he wanted was Padme. Not the Jedi, Not Palpatine, but just to be with the ones he loved. I would've loved to see them use that story to tell the Kang story. It doesn't just make him a rinky-dink villain. It gives him character depth.
Isn’t this basically a rewritten version of the Kang story, except with Venom? He learns of all his future forms, including one who eventually evolves into someone shitty who this version doesn’t want to be, but it’s an inevitable cycle…
Marvel must be hiring dairy farmers. Cause they are MILKING everything. Where are the new stories? They are just recycling old material and adding a new paint job. Not to mention neutering the original spider-man.
yea this bull crap
Certainly explains how he and Kang can get along. Two peas in a pod.
Nicely put
Except with a dash of beyonders bs
Sony and Marvel should bring The King in Black storyline, and its aftermath, to the big screen. It can be the next big storyline after Secret Wars.
Definitely
I said the same thing bring knull mythology of the king in black
Debut Dylan brock that would be awesome
Nah they will ruined it and nerfed king in black.
Maaaaan Ive been sick all week and now Ive got a weeks worth of videos to catch up on and I couldn’t be happier! And to start the videos off with new Venom?! THANKS ROB 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
I think this is going to be a symbiot vr phalanx kind of ending.
I wish you would make a video on the animated DC movies, the last one, crisis on infinite earth part one, left me with so many questions😅
What's the movie with the super sons and the starfish guy called?
@@DorkLord69 Batman and Superman: Battle of the Super Sons
So glad I watched ALL of your other Venom videos, this one actually made sense. haha!
Did you skip the episode where the eventuality tells Esdie exactly what he is. Basically the antithesis to the ivory kings?
No
I wonder what all the gods in the universe is doing, like are they just chilling watching so many beings become more powerful than they are.
We know that carnage kills knull in another universe... so i dont think this can happen in every universe across the multiverse
god i hate Time Travel...
How have they not learned that invoking time travel just doesn't work... By "they" I mean *all* of media too
Is that you Rick?
They need to make a what if but with Spider-Man in this series
I just realized venom is basically the jacket-jacket fruit from One Piece
I loved the king in black run, and I’m very intrigued with the carnage/venom stories coming out right now. Both are god level now 😂 Spider-Man better hope venom never goes villain again cuz there’s not a damn thing he could do about it lol spidey is the only main character dude who never gets a power up that he gets to keep
Even side characters are becoming more powerful than Peter. Normie (Carnage/Bedlam Symbiote + Goblin), Liz (Carnage/Anti-Venom Symbiote), even debatably MJ with that casino themed power bracelet.
@@azureheart2846 agreed, poor guy just can’t catch a break. Even miles morales is getting electric lightsabers now and Peter is still over here with those web shooters and maybe a spider bot 🤡😅
@@salas0727 there’s also Ben Reilly. As much as I hate what they did to him, I can’t deny that his new power is impressive.
Unless Spidey gets the Uni-power, or whatever it is that turned him into Captain Universe that one time.
This feels like a modern spiritual retelling of the original Adam Warlock Magus story. The irony of Kang being where Marvel has wanted him for the last couple of years... In the role of Thanos, makes it extra interesting.
This is also a delicious way to phase Eddie out and Dylan in similar to Peter Parker and Miles Morales
Similar to this Harry Potter thing BUT completely opposite in every way... 👏👏 Congratulations that was a new level man.....
Literally literally literally like literally
The stages of grief are usually spoken in an order w denial at the beginning and acceptance at the end but in reality you actually can go back and forth between the stages indefinitely before finally finding acceptance. So in reality there is no order other than acceptance being the last
Can't wait to see Carnage go up against Meridius
The profile pic makes sense
You
Everyone is godly powerful now so it doesn't even matter
If everyone is a god. Then no one is .
@@Watch-0w1 exactly
I'm not a fan of the overpowering of the symbiotes, 100% a turn off. To elevate them to beyonder levels is insulting. I just can't.
Insulting? Bro it's a comic book, it's not getting its feelings hurt chill out@@nobodyknowsforsure
Good thing not everyone is becoming Godly
Meridius character design is sooo cool!
Right he got that Darth Vader vibe his son Dylan when he morph into
That codex form with the sword a little taller he the Luke skywalker
Wait I know it's a weird paradox that isn't supposed to make much sense but is Meridius specifically Tyro's version of Eddie or any version of Eddie could become Meridius?
I liked it better when symbiotes were just goop from space that had a hive mind that could be influenced by their host.
They're 100% overdoing it with the power levels of symbiotes.
I like this better
I like when character actually progress instead of staying stagnant.
@@venom0825 And making everyone godlike is stagnation. Creativity stagnation. Not every character has to grow to a godlike power level. Characters can develop and grow without getting obscene to the point where they're a completely different character, only bearing the name of who they used to be.
@@FieryAnubis no, that's called being uncreative( which the comic book industry is plenty of ), and all your doing is stretching the definition to fit your argument(and very poorly).
If written correctly a character can absolutely grow into a different character, that called character development. Whether you personally like the change or not is completely irrelevant.
Saying that the symbiot where better as one dimensional goop from space, is just nostalgia biase, and wanting stagnation because it appeals to you. Things change, get over it.
Wait where does this tie with Carnage and his hunt for Eddie
Sounds like the Phoenix Force for symbiotes.
Every light saber is a laser sword, but not every laser sword is a light saber. It's the same scenario as Kleenex or Jacuzzi. Tyro gets a laser sword, but it is most certainly not a light saber. 🤷
So Meridius is Eddy’s version of Knull. While, The Eventuality is the fully realized symbiote God?
more so what eddie would become if he did the same thing null did, ie didn't do his job as king in black
@@digunder14right right right! Ok cool, that's what I was trying to get at!
Bro created like 100 different timelines too many incursions😂
I know I'm not alone in thinking a venom planet is dope as fuck lol
I got really confused, so just answer this. Did Venom get connected to Oblivion or something is that it, or am totally off?
So is Marvel headed for a DC crisis style event soon so everyone can be reset to more manageable power levels, or are we just going full Dragonball Super where the power levels just keep escalating and escalating with everyone escalating together so it's basically meaningless?
It can't go super since they don't know how to write for shit. Hulk and Thor currently in comics should be soo high on tier list both thanos and storm wouldn't be able to do shit to them but lazy writing got into the way and made them jobb...
@@OdenDChad Yeah man right after hulk gets a Toaa amp too they have him leave his story just to get bish slapped
@@DrHuxley- Yea, i will also never forget Thor getting pressed by jupiter atmosphear. Even the thor from his first comics that came out wouldn't felt that shit.
@@OdenDChadnw dont be disrespectful my guy. If you were here for the KIB story. Knull himself labeled Storm his "Most powerful avatar" when damn near had everyone under his control. He damn near honored her.
@@OdenDChad Yeah made him sit like a dog then got the hammer like nothing
Rob you better not leave TH-cam brother my lord so many TH-camrs are leaving
The Venom suit in the thumbnail looks like it has a red bat-logo lol
The issue that needs resolution is why Eddie is able to break the cycle. If he's destined to be Meridius, how did he come across the Eventuality prematurely?
Venom 17 and venom 18 explain everything
Wow that split personality thing is actually pretty dope
Man chose to be a sniveling paltry king of a universe instead of being a cog with responsibility that makes the multiverse run. Man i hope Moridius gets BOPPED son! Not even close. Full grown man vs a little baby child! That's what he deserves. Man I love this story so much! It's so good!
Obi-Kang Kenobi.
I thought that was ninja He-Man at first glance.
he looks like jackie estacado mans literally is just jackie now man has the darkness
Ok here's my theory... multiversal infinity gauntlet. Each stone is made from a multiversal entity. The Phoenix = mind stone, the beyonder = power stone, the living tribunal = reality, the one above all = soul stone, the multiversal eternity = space stone, ultimate Eddy = time stone. Mic drop
So it like savitar in Flash series
Beyond omega level: The Divine Creator
Kind of sounds like Majoras Mask!
Venom becomes Super Smash Bros Crazy Hand.
lol Venom becoming a jedi sounds very interesting
Symbiote corruption does lean disturbingly close to The Dark Side in concept. Hell tell a Symbiote how the Pre-Empire Jedi treated handling emotions, and a Klyntar would claim them to be in the right, because they completely understand where they’re coming from in their line of thought.
The venom symbiote that is bonded to Dylan keeps evolved the venom symbiote
To new heights most likely getting stronger
I'm more confused than a homeless person under house arrest.
That would hit Dylan too
Master Hand. The Eventuality. Why are heroes always playing Super Smash Bros?
they could tottallyyy use knull in the mcu for the next big bad after kang if they introduce knull or something in venom 3 because hypothetically knull could get to another universe from kangs technology and it wouldn't be the first time kang has been in a king in black story ???
I am wondering if Eddie is in control of all symbiotes then why doesn't he know about carnage? Also, I wonder whats going to happen when carnage shows up.
Its a cool story but very anime
This makes no sense… so why didn’t knoll have that same power 🫤
Knoll isn’t a symbiot. He accidentally created them while making that sword.
Knoll is very powerful, but doesn’t have the same powers.
@@Oree_Nabisko was knull a “king in black”? When knull died why didn’t he become a symbiote and gain access to this next stage of power like eddy? Eddy was a human but has better control of a hive mind than an knull🫤 how long did knull have access to this power vs eddy ?
It’s explained in a previous issue that when Knull denied his responsibility as the KIB, he set himself up to fall. He couldn’t change the outcome even if he wanted to, which is how despite with his vast power, he couldn’t change his fate even when he sent Mr. E to the past.
@@BigpopsMcGee Knull was offered the role of the King in Black by the celestials. He is a god, like thor just a lot older. He refused and started to kill them by making the first symbiote, all black the necrosword. When Eddie kills Knull he is essentially given the same choice. However if he choose no, he would of simply died. So, he chooses yes instead and becomes the 'first' king in black. Knull COULD OF gained access to these powers if he agreed with and joined the celestials but he didn't. So when he died, he died.
For example Thor COULD OF denied the Odin force and NOT become the next All-Father. If he had done that he never would've received all of Odin's abilities.
low outer if you might say, but power scaling is dumb.
I cant wait for the last issue to undo everything thats happened. Like in every other modern comic.
All roads of Kang lead to Kang. Eddy walks the same path for the same reasons.
Hes a god shes a god were all gods HEY 🎶 🎵
What's so hard to understand? It's timey-whyme stuff... nuff said. 😂
I'll still never understand them making Venom a cosmic being... The symbiote saga was cool, but it's so far removed from the Spiderman comics and I'm just wondering where my friendly neighborhood spiderdood fits in this..
I think his story is more like Dr. Manhattans mixed with Kang.
My favorite videos from ROB are when he breaks down the comic book like a college course. This man should be a professor of comics history. A….comicstorian if you will. And yes I know that word is TH-cam copyrighted, but it’s true!
Yo rob you got a shout out on the TH-cam channel new Rockstars for your mutant theory for mcu video.
Eddie is friends with the Nightbreed deity?
Is anyone else annoyed they are making everyone god level? 👋🏻
I find it disrespectful to Donny Cates. His run was rooted in a mortal man defying a god, and winning purely out of love for his son.
Yeah, he had the Enigma Force... But he was worthy of it. *And* Thor's hammer.
@@XXMatt0040XX They're doing it to everyone too..
Would you rather they reboot? 😂
@@GetRightGB Make everyone TOAA level is sooooo much better right?
@@FredGoldust I totally agree; personally I believe this one to be the most egregious, along with Carnage.
And then he gets a light saber lol
So we have kabalic Qlipoth references. The reincarnation cycle of the messianic figures.
Isn't that the same hand Eddy lost?
No, no, I get it.... but you should explain it again because I don't think someone was paying attention...
Idk about yall but I think all this shit is actually cool
14:59 I’m running with ya. Kang isn’t this reckless. He’s all in the mix mucking it up.
I hope this just leads into Peter becoming the king in black or something and lead to a big marvel reset
Are we slowly getting to a point where just everything exist outside time and space, and there is only one of everything across the multiverse. The consept seems king of overused at this point, where the meening of a multiverse doesnt matter anymore.
Venom becomes the God of Taints.
Wait so who becomes meridius? Eddie? Or Tyrone? Or is Eddie Tyrone? Cause I'm pretty sure you said they both turn to meridius
Top Kek
I have no idea whats going on
We are venom 🔥
Honestly I don't want to see Dylan fight his father, not only we've seen a version of it play out but also I think it's stupid. What would be great to see is Dylan treating Carnage as a booger under his nose 👀
Im so confused. 😂😂😂
This was sweet 🎂
Anybody miss when Eddie was Spider-Man’s bully and Venom was a physical alien suit? Now we’ve got Eddie, a bully, now becoming a transdimensional super being on par with the Beyonders? I’m all for abstract stuff but this is so ridiculous.
I miss when street level characters were street level and were relatable. This reminds me of when Spiderman had to fight in other dimensions and clones and vampires and other nonsense that completely misses what we liked about the character. Venom is a cool villain. He doesn’t need to meld with all multiverse variants or whatever this nonsense is.
Exactly, that's why I like DC for villains and Marvel for heroes
@@MrFox64057 U can't be talking when you have the most milked character, aka Batman who laughs
@@strangerfreaks That was the worst thing that ever happened to DC but they still have the best villains
Venom is an alien that’s more powerful than Spider-Man. Space is where he literally belongs. Heck Spider-Man is above Street Level.
What’s the run for these issues ? (Like the title of the comic etc)
I was missing so much Rob's coverage of Venom and Carnage! Thank you SO much for doing this!
A green lantern?
Venom becomes a Multiversal God.
For the 100th time we see another Spiderman in a tragic and fcked up situation.
Whoa! Fuckin cool
I kinda hate how venom is awesome in the comics, and he’s just a big silly goofball in his own movies
Been waiting for this one man
I was so confused until the end of the video 😂😂
This DragonBall now?