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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- I WANT SPIDER-MAN!!!!! to get some much needed and much deserved buffs. nothing crazy, just 2 slight ajustments to his kit that will make your enemies with that they didn't mess with the amazing spider man.
sorry if the microphone quality is a bit shotty at times, headset mic be acting funky sometimes.
Something I forgot to mention in the video was that a few weeks ago I had a small exchange with a comunity manager on the Rivals discord. There were already people who where discussing spidey being underwhelming and he was asking why people felt that way about spidey to which responded, trying my best to sumarise the issues and how he doesn't feel rewarding enough to play especially with his difficulty. people seemed to agree with what i had to say and the comunity manager responded stating that he had forwarded our echange to zhiyong (lead combat desinger).
There is still hope for us Spidey mains and if you want to see the messages you can search for messages that mention @rvolks in the server for anyone interested in seeing it for themselves. I enjoy seeing everyones suggestions and opinions in the comments and doing my best to read each comment as they pop up.
Everyone else gets to suck and fly by being carried by one or two abilities. Spider-man's need to do math in the air calculating reloads and risks if memorizing how much damage they can dish out for every character in 3 hits and if it's worth it doling 5 hits. He needs infinite webs, and/or faster reload web pull.
he does not need infinite webs lmao
@@Jay-bs7vn bro said infinite webs 💀💀💀💀💀
@@PP-ss3zfit’s not like they do damage
I urge you to play in practice range with no cool downs, Spider-Man does not need infinite webs 💀
@@failedhook7140 yeah probably infinite is too much, how about auto refill on every web hit?
As a fellow spidey lord player that mains the character, i will say that its getting less and less viable, especially with the current meta of 3x support. He cant kill ANYTHING. I once heard someone say "spiderman is only as effective as the enemy backline is weak/incompetent" and i couldnt agree more. Because he has no CC immunity on literally anything other than his venom team up ability, and his spider sense is kinda useless (not always), he constantly just gets spam stunned when he dives. Especially because most of his combos require u to be 1. in the air (immobile unless u swing away) and 2. super close to the opponent. He also just cant do enough damage to kill anything effectively. even his "one shot" with the venom ability almost never one shots cuz it does EXACTLY 250 health (if even a single right click by a mantis is thrown out mid combo, it wont kill). Overall, I think ur suggestions were really solid and i never thought about having those two moves on separate cool downs. its a really cool idea and it gets me excited thinking about all the potential things i could do with it. Also, another reason why his webshots need buffing so bad is cuz of how often they are used for non-offensive utility. Its one of his main mobility tools for his bunny hop. Another thing, I heard a good suggestion by Necros one time, where he said that web zips (LShift aimed at a ground or wall perpendicular to spidey) should have a shorter cooldown (3s) as opposed to web swings that can take u across the map (6s). Like one should obviously have a long cool down cuz of how far it can take u, but it really sucks that in A LOT of situations, you're going to be using the zip, not the swing, which you get way less out of yet still have to wait 6 seconds. A final thing that I believe is that the melee range on his first 2 punches of his regular left click combo NEED buffing. They literally NEVER hit, just the kick at the end of it hits. Anyway, good vid, sorry this comment was so long.
I definately feel what you mean about needing venom. Shouldnt need to feel like that.
Spidey does NOT need venom
@@failaka7988 no he doesnt NEED venom but it makes it all the more playable, playing with a venom is way better than without and if u cant agree you havent played spidey lol
Yeah not being able to secure a kill by yourself just sucks, i went out of my way to learn this character because he's my favorite super hero and it feels like I'm being punished for it 😂
@@PineapplYT na word thats what im saying
if you're nothing without the venom team up, then you shouldn't have it
5:09 very good example right here btw of uppercut knocking opponents out of melee range. This sort of thing is what makes me jelous of iron first magentic hands.
I agree, separate cooldowns between Get Over Here and Get Over There. And at least no range falloff on Web-Clusters. Not even a damage buff. Mostly for going against deployables like the nest and turrets. A shame that the character most likely to find well hidden deployables is so garbage at taking them out.
I personally think that spidey should have had 275 hp from the start but I digress
I think what he needs is reducing cooldowns on everything, making ult stun from the beginning, and allow him to stack web tracers.
Stacking web tracers would be cool. Imagine webbing ur opponent (stunning like in ult) on 3rd stack of the web-tracer or smth like that
I want spidey to get a dodge THEY GAVE A DODGE TO THE WRONG PETER #BUFFSPIDEY
Spider-Mans plain melee could use a minor lunge. The most mobile character can barely move with his feet on the ground. If any character back tracks even a little his melees whiff. He need at least a fraction of what iron fist has.
I feel like they are scared to buff his damage output or lethality due to how good his mobility is.
it would also be cool if your subsequent web cluster deals more damage since it’s suppose to buff damage onto tagged enemies. that’ll make him be able to play at a range, or even allow you confirm more kills with your web clusters.
that could work but i think the cooldown on webclusters would have to stay the same since the extra damage is pretty high. if the devs dont want to buff the cooldown this could be a way to justify the current cooldown.
i think having separate cooldowns for both get over here versions and a reload for his webs would be a fair enough buff for him.
i think the only thing he needs it is a way to get faster shots, like headshot reload, or hitting the E with the passive, or some way to reload them faster, and that would be enough xD
I think every time he hits a marked enemy his cooldowns come back faster, which would make the 2 uppercuts more skillful to manage but have more flexibility and overall damage, his web cluster could also slow enemies or lock their movement abilities momentarily
@@TotaDS8 sounds nice, but i dont know about buff too much the cluster, to me it have good dmg, but you got a few with high cooldown, a reload would be nice, but i think that reloading it from hitting or conecting the E would be better. My point is that he is not that low to need to be supper buffed, in deed to me its perfect like it is except for the few clusters and slow cd on it
I think he should have more range for his web swings
I actually really like the Idea of having get over here variations on different cooldowns. They could have it show on the screen like when you use cloak abilities and swap to dagger!
This wouldn't make him overpowered, as a GM player spiderman just isn't playable in high elo anymore but that would make him good, but not overpowered! With a character like him, it's so hard to balance him without making him overpowered
I think he needs the pull in and the pull to as separate moves along with with extending spider powers range or giving him iron fist melee lock on when he lands the uppercut and remove the limit on clusters or make it so he can reload, it doesn’t make since he has a limit when namor over here throwing infinite tridents 🔱😭😭
U can literally make this in ur settings
@ I meant it as making them have there own separate cooldown.
Also dont feel like spider sense idk makes any sense i wish it could actually effect battles maybe make him more dodgy idk something.
I mean really what is it currently going to do as of now...oooo i sense invisable woman may be near by about to sneakily vortex my movement and secure me as her next kill as i try to web swing in slow motion.
My idea is that triggering his spider sense makes him CC immune for a couple seconds.
Id say he needs either a 5 shot reload or Make it that hitting his tracer reduces cds by like 1 only for his 5 web shots
Thats about it ez work for the devs
he really needs a buff like some games I'll get a healer one shot and they just heal and run away, like some games I go 30-2/3 and then some games i go like 5-15 like bruh he needs to be more consistent
Agreed
I've never went 5-15 with spideman that's insane and could possibly be a skill issue lmao
Spider-Mans plain melee could use a minor lunge. The most mobile character can barely move with his feet on the ground. If any character back tracks even a little his melees whiff. He need at least a fraction of what iron fist has.
Spidey sence should get close proximity wall hacks like punisher. Or a directional indicator for who behind. Invisible or not. ‼️ danger ‼️
Lower cooldowns. All he needs
Idk I think he’s really valuable run and I wouldn’t want to decrease his skill cap. I was thinking the other day though a creative way of buffing him would be to allow you to consume your pull cooldown as an emergency web swing. Just gives him more flexibility and survivability
If Spiderman gets any buffs, he needs animation locks. I play him sometimes for fun, he can mess people up already if he gets his main abilities off, but you have to do it in a silly way. He is hilariously frail, so it definitely feels high risk and high reward, but the amount of animation canceling you have to do is kinda silly. If they could just patch that and tweak his damage, I'd be completely content. I don't think having to resort to animation canceling is good character design.
I will quit season 2 if spiderman doesnt get web buff either reload, major cool down or infinit ammo. This just make him playable but not viable. I stick around if they at least do that.
I think spider since like reversal hit scan, once enemy has him in cross hair it goes off, pluss different color tells what type spider sense. red means someone target u, white means someone close bye. yellow means there in stealth and it lights parts of to give directional. so circle be broken in 3 parts left, center, right.
also his ult should stun from one web cluster so he can lock people down in his ult so any healers or anyone with ability to stun can't use there skills since they stun. So this make ult valuable but not overpowering since anyone out side his ult can still heal allies in his web.
Such a great idea to rework the spidey sense. I feel like it's a useless passive right now. The yellow spidey sense mechanic is just classic spider-man I cant believe they haven't done it like that. Instead it's just useless, a good headset and hearing footsteps can do the job better than it right now.
How spider sense works now is pretty canon. He senses danger but doesn't know where it is coming from..
Everything else is not canon.
He doesn't have superhuman health.
He can't swing more than 3 times.
He can't reload cartridges...
Me I never thought a separating the get over here that's a smart idea but more ways that I will buff Peter is make his cool down a little bit less his get over here needs to at least be around 5 to 6 seconds, of course like you said his web clusters needs to reload needs to be 5 meters and not three. I think doing that will make Peter good enough that he wouldn't be broken
I fell like the ability being split into 2 could be overpowered in some way, I think a realistic change would be reducing cd on web clusters by 1 sec, reduce get over here cd by 1 sec and maybe even a 3rd uppercut. Another simple one would be make him 275 hp. But I would absolutely love the 2 ability thing
They need to make the venom cooldown faster at the very least
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What if his webshots had a stacking healing debuff? Its harder to heal someone covered in web.
i like the idea especially since a big issuee with spidey is that he can't compete with the amount of healing in the game. although it might be a bit early to add those sort of anti healing mechanics. still, it would definately make him worth picking.
literally ALLLL he needs is cooldown buffs. his damage sucks, yes, but I'm okay with the damage being bad because his mobility is beyond insane, except you cant use that mobility half the time because your web swings on on cooldown for 6 whole seconds 😭😭😭 its so annoying if his cooldowns were even a second shorter he would be a way more viable hero
I don't think oneshot is the right term for spidy. Hawkeye is a oneshot spidy is a fast single target combo. dps spidy is far from a oneshot, but that doesn't mean he doesn't need buffs he most certainly does like heavy damage buffs, just making a distinction
Just…. Give him faster cooldowns
I suggested the reload system on the discord server back in the while everyone disliked it and sent me dms how it would make Spider-Man overpowered and I have 0 skill (GM 2 Spider-Man)
i feel you there, I have seen some pretty interesting ideas and suggestions for spidey buffs that get instantly disliked bombed. I think part of the reason is that most of the active users on the discord are gold and bellow since people start to focus more on climbing and improving at the game after they leave plat and a good spidey in low elo is unstopable since no one knows how to counter him. It does seem like people are starting to wise up recently since I havn't seen many people say spidey doesn't need buffs and the people who do are usually trolling, meming or ragebaiting.
crosshair?
What if you make the get over here + upper cut 1 shot but get over here no longer automatically targets so it’s a skill shot?
that could work, but i think they would have to keep the auto targeting version and make the version that pulls them to you do more damage for that to work since needing to skill shot for every dive would be a bit overkill. I like the idea though.
honestly just give him unlimited web shots lower the damage if you have too i cant just be constantly running outta resources when im surrounded and cant do anything cuz im outta stickys
make his life 300.
I was on the fence about him needing a buff. But separating get over here and the pull to them move's cool down. I think that would be fair. But any major changes with him will easily make him over powered. I guess that's what y'all want. He cooks fools already!
No, he cooks LOW SKILL lobbies and people who don’t play with their team properly. He can only cook other Duelists if there AREN’T any healers nearby, and if they have any type of Get Off Me moves to create space, Spidey is cooked
@xAbsynthex A good spiderman with the right squad can get thru all of that shit. But Thanks Phil. Miss you every day.
@@Spitta504TV any good 'insert random hero name here' with the right squad can get through all that shit though. I don't understand that statement.
@@chaddpoggenpoel3304 That's great you don't understand it bro. It truly is.
@@Spitta504TV thanks man. I appreciate you. I truly do.
i just wanted another stack on the (get over here)
just like the upperfist
and maybe 275 health :(
Dude no, Spider-Man does not need a single buff are you insane lmao
Found the gold
Are you insane? Spider-Man needs to be nerfed. He can literally one shot squishies
I've never seen a spiderman on youtube or in game one shot anything.
I've seen Hawkeye one shot though.
Spider-Mans plain melee could use a minor lunge. The most mobile character can barely move with his feet on the ground. If any character back tracks even a little his melees whiff. He need at least a fraction of what iron fist has.
Spidey sence should get close proximity wall hacks like punisher. Or a directional indicator for who behind. Invisible or not. ‼️ danger ‼️