Aloy used Sylens' spear to purge Hades. For all we know, he modified the spear to make a copy of Hades as soon as it was connected. By the time Hades was purged it was all ready downloaded and waiting for an open port. Sylens built a computer core to contain Hades. Once one the AI was either forced or given the chance to transfer to this new core.
I'm just waiting for Forbidden West to come out and for THIS comment to be a sucessful prediction about what happens next in Sylens' journey for knowledge.
HADES is fully contained in the Faraday cage Sylens built for him. Whatever his plans are, now that he knows exactly what HADES wants, he will never allow him to complete his purpose, as that would mean his own death as well. Sylens is by no means a good guy, but he knows he would gain nothing and lose everything if he lets HADES do what he wants.
A Faraday Cage is no small trinket. I know Syl er ns learned everything he could from technology he found bit where did he learn to build a Faraday Cage??
The thing with sylens is that his curiosity and brilliance is probably humanity's best hope of having a technologically advanced civilization in the near future
While you're right, the biggest obstacle Sobeck had with building Gaia was that not only did it have to be capable of all it had to do, but she had to care about people. Sylens only cares about himself and his own aims. Sylens would only share his knowledge with others if it benefitted him.
Sylens personality is TOO much like Ted Faro, the yearning for endless knowledge, and the ironic thing is, he hated ted Faro, yet Faro’s yearning for knowledge cause the world’s doom in the first place, Sylen is just doing the same
Hades told Sylens about many things from the past...but he didn't tell him about memes. Suppose it's for the best. Imagine Sylen's face if Hades asked him if he knew de way.
I genuinely appreciate how deep you get into the lore, some of the topics you discuss other lore coverage channels would skim over as they’d see them insignificant but you tackle them and do it very well and I love that, thank you very much
My theory is Sylens is none other than Peter Tshivhumbe, the elusive founder of Far Zenith, who has achieved ageless immortality like Ted Fado and the Zeniths, but through integrating machine parts with his anatomy.
Love the subtle message: How misunderstood knowledge can sometimes create a cult and its never said outright but as a player you realize when you find the truth and it has been misinterpreted.
Lance Reddick getting the same greek reference in two different media was awesome. Charon, the concierge in John Wick and in Horizon Zero Dawn as Sylens ( when in the end, after getting Hades inside that lantern look-a-like faraday cage, he was also representing the Charon)
The Horus titan at the end might actually be the Horus that Hades was in when Sylens first met him, I mostly think this due to the big orb in the Horus’s “mouth” which looks like Hades before he was purged from Minerva
What interests me is, Hades is merely the AI doing what it was meant to do, but of course in a limited view of the whole situation since it was awakened. Sylens seems to be, unfortunately, the represented part of humanity that views knowledge as power and sees that power as a way of control. Whatever his personal goals are he is no better than Ted Faro. My intrigue is in who or what sent the signal that awoke Hades. Sylens refers to them as it's masters. This means there is yet an unrevealed larger threat with even more knowledge that Sylens would love to know. Aliens? Those from the Odyessy mission ( love your video on that and find it the most likely), or even a clone of Ted Faro ( love that vid also). Whatever the case Aloy, Sylens, and Hades will play I would imagine a even larger role in the next installment of the game. Keep up the great work.
Sylens doesn't seem to want power. He is a seeker of knowledge, of which he obtains at any cost. This causes him to do some bad things, but he is not evil. As for HADES, I do think that all of it was trapped after GAIA blew up prime, but HEPHAESTUS is the one running amuk. CYAN said that it would make stronger machines, but its goal was not extinction of mankind like HADES. The stronger machines were in response to man hunting its creations, nothing more. The real enemy is the "signal". Was it simply a surviving AI that wasn't shutdown, or was it something more working in the background that created the virus that started all of this? Questions for the sequel.
@@jxsilicon9 Every evil person uses the pursuit of knowledge to justify their deeds? Dude that isn't even true in this game, let alone real life. Ted Faro's the most evil person in all of HZD history and he was a business school dropout who only ever cared about his own wealth and ego and didn't give a shit about knowledge. His dumb ass didn't even know how his own robots worked. Sobeck and Shen's lifelong pursuits of knowledge and innovation allowed them to save the world twice.
Sylens snarking at Aloy for one of her first questions to him wanting to know his name when all along one of Sylens first questions to Hades was....wanting to know his name!
Even if Sylens turns out to be the big bad in horizon 2 or even potentially Horizon 3, I'll always love this dude because he's portrayed by Lance Reddick
I have a strange theory about Sylens. I believe that Sylens, is actually Apollo. Here me out okay. Here’s why I think he is. 1) Apollo became an AI of its own, just like Hades and Hephaestus did. Each AI, from the moment they became independent entities, continued with what they were programmed to do, such as Haphaestus ,who constructed new machines to defend GAIA’s creations from humans so they could continue doing their role in the terraforming system, and Hades, who wished to follow his programming and annihilate life on earth. Apollo, however, wouldn’t be able to accomplish its goal of passing on its knowledge to mankind, as Ted had erased all of its knowledge. But I believe, that when he became an AI, he would’ve wanted to have searched for this missing knowledge, by exploring the world around him, in order to help fulfil his purpose. But that raises the question, how, would he do that? 2) To do this though, he’d have to find a imaginative solution to accomplish this goal, just like how Hades for example decided to utilise the Faro Robots to accomplish his directive, as he no longer had access to Zero Dawns terraforming system. Another example is Haphaestus taking advantage of CYAN to take control of Firebreak to construct Cauldron Epsilon. Point being, both of them were able to find alternative means of accomplishing their mission. Apollo being a advanced AI would’ve known that it would be impossible for him to traverse the old ones ruins as an ai on his own. So I reckon he would’ve utilised something left in the ruins of the old ones, the deactivated Servito bots. They are the only bots we’ve seen who look remotely humanoid. I reckon Apollo would’ve took control of the least rundown servitude he can find in Eleuthia’s ruins, and modify them to make them look human, so that way he wouldn’t stand out. 3) And yes, I know he doesn’t look like a robot, but if my theory is correct, that would be the point. Plus, we already have human like machines today. It would only make sense that by the 2060’s, they would’ve made great advancements in the creation of human like robots. Plus, if he were a robot, it would make sense why he’s so calculating most of the time. 4) But of course we’ve seen that Sylens show emotions, something you wouldn’t expect from a robot. But CYAN and GAIA were advanced enough to be able to not only feel these emotions, but to understand them. Plus, he always makes logical choices to accomplishing his goals, even though they might be morally questionable at times, such as creating the eclipse, or capturing Hades. This is might be because, as he is a machine, he’d make the logical choice. 5) He only comes into direct contact with Alloy if it’s necessary. I reckon that’s because he doesn’t want her to notice that he’s not doing simple things a human would normally do, such as eat or sleep, cuz as he is a machine, he wouldn’t do any of this. 6) Sylens has never told Alloy where’s he from. Ourea believed that he wasn’t Banuk, due to the horrific things he did to them. I reckon that his Banuk look is just a illusion, so no one would see him as a machine. Heck, even the wiring could actually be apart of his mechanical body. 7) Your probably thinking, “oh, but if he’s an ai, then how come he didn’t know about Zero Dawn or GAIA”. This might be because he’d have lost the info about Gaia or zero Dawn. 8) Everything that Sylens has done, has been for the ultimate goal of pursuing knowledge. If he really is Apollo, then I reckon that this desire, is really his programming. Of course, I’m not 100% sure this could be true however, as all of this is still a theory, as it has many holes in it of course, but it sounds like a interesting theory nonetheless. I could be wrong, but wouldn’t it be a cool twist? Plus to me, this seems the closest to something I think Apollo would do now that’s he’s free. What do you think?
I don’t know Good theory in theory But it destroys the point of sylens in a way for me. Sylens is a character that values Knowledge over everything else but somewhere along the way he lost his morals and became pure selfish that’s the tragedy of sylens so when you make him an advanced au the most human thing in sylens become not really relevant anymore. Maybe it’s because I see myself sometimes in sylens as a warning that pursuit of knowledge isn’t everything in life but fun theory
Sylens as an individual existed prior to the Unknown Signal and the destruction of Gaia Prime. He was the first to explore the smoking crater left after Gaia nuked herself. That means he cannot be a clone of Apollo's alpha or Apollo in a Servitor. He is simply a highly educated and inquisitive individual who will do questionable things to gain knowledge (explore a massive explosion's remnants, form the Eclipse, and even trap Hades.)
Man I love sylens so much. He was just as good in forbidden west, if not, better. R.i.p my man lance reddick, there will never be someone as good as him to play sylens. He was sylens. 😢 🙏
With all due respect, I think it's clear that was all of Hades was in that Horus computer core.When he said "Titain frame merly houses intelect" he was explaining he was not a war machine he was simply using it as a shell. As to why the master override failed to desroy him, I have an idea. It was created to purge either Gaia or her subfuctions which is why she asked Aloy to use it on Hades. But at the time she used it, Hades was no longer just a subfunction. He had been made self-aware, if chaotic and illogical. So it stands to reason the master overide wouldn't entirely work on him becuase it wasn't desinged for sutch an enity. Although, it was primaraly desinged to use on Gaia and she was at least, if not more, advanced as Hades.
I also think Sylens gave Aloy his staff duplicitously, expecting/hoping Aloy would need to use it to hack Hades. It was programed so Aloy's purge wouldn't kill Hades, but to transmit/trap him in Sylens' handheld cage.
@@LordTelperion It's quite the ploy. What I think he did was build a backup drive into his staff. Once connected to Hades, it creates a back up storing a copy while the hardware override destoryed the original. Then once he was where he needed to be, he opened the back door to the staff giving the copy of Hades only one way out. Him. He dose tell you the would do it all over again. With a few more safe guards, of course.
I’m pretty sure Sylens was a Nora outcast. Orea mentioned they questioned if he was ever banuk to begin with. That piece of information is only interesting if he is a Nora. Like Who cares if he is carja or oseram. I think he might even be the boy Teersa mentioned. The Nora boy who was outcast for killing his own mother at age 13. Why Sylens would kill his mother idk. But they gave us that bit of information for a reason. But if you compare his outfit to other tribes it looks mostly Nora. He carries his stuff from the back of his belt like a Nora too. He calls himself a lone wanderer who left his tribe behind a long time ago, a searcher of the forbidden places, Only nora call the ruins forbidden. It would mean he has that in common with Aloy both shunned from the tribe as children. Maybe he grew up in mothers watch and got a peek inside the mountain. Growing up as a Nora with intelligence might have spurred his interest in the old ones. Surviving in the wilds since age 13 would make him tough too. Also it only hints at his intelligence. Outside Gaia prime he created that contraption to try and get the door open. And the device that holds hades at the end. Also we know Sylens is a user person. He might have had something to do with Rosts outcast story. We still don’t know why the outlanders came. Teersa’s story about Rost and the 13 yr old Nora boy who was outcast rly interests me. In a video game they give you info like that for a reason. So I’ve been looking for how those story’s tie in. And yeah I’m convinced Sylens is that Nora boy grown up. Orea said he came from the distant north but a Nora interested in the old ones I would assume would definitely make there way to Ban ur. Even when you go back to all mother they way Sylens talks about the Nora is as if he has had personal dealings with there ignorant ways. Most of the tribes know little of the Nora they don’t have much dealings with them. But Sylens talks about them with obvious disdain. Idk just one of my many theory’s. I also have tons of theory’s on the banuk too. There paintings are very revealing and everything Orea says too. I’m pretty sure I got them almost figured out. One of the triangles they paint everywhere is the same shape on Cyan and Gaia’s tech. Orea is not the first banuk to have contact with an AI. It says as much in Banukis story. I think the blue light is where AIs who are missing there tech live. It talked about Vast Silver escaping into the holoscape. Maybe the blue light is the last place on earth that is “online”. Maybe Elisium? We know it wasn’t far from Gaiaprime it had to be in the claim or Banur. Idk obviously I’m seriously obsessed with this game lol
I wonder if Sylens was protecting Aloy from the very first moment she put on her focus. Hades hadn’t picked up on her for many years until her first meeting with another focus.when that happened that focus was malfunctioning like Sylens was blocking coms I don’t think he expect that confrontation on till it was too late. If you notice from Aloys first fight with the Eclipse they didn’t have functional focus giving her an advantage.
What if Sylens is a corrupted AI that invaded or made a human looking body that is now trying to find out its past almost like alloy which might explain why he talks like other ai we have met like Cyan. Because even people who were from the same tribe didn’t know where he came from as well
I watched Fringe and John Wick. He is so perfect for this role. When he showed up i was like "No Way". I just could not picture the man with the so familliar voice for a while. As about where Sylens comes from. My suspicions are either from Ban-Ur or......The forbidden west. In the DLC The Frozen Wilds the female Shaman tells you they were not even sure if he was Banuk at all. He looks the part for sure and had history with the Banuk. He might not even be from the American continent at all for as far we know now. I doubt his name is even Sylens at all. It of course nudges to the word Silence as in secretive. Like Aloy nudges to the word Alloy. A material created out of several ones. Hinting to her being a clone of Elizabeth Sobeck. Even the AI's hint to their Greek god counterparts. Anyway proven is that he has formidable knowledge about Machines at least. The rest he does not share easily. Only that he had dealings with the Banuk and that he was the founder of Eclipse. He is also reasonably advanced in Age. The Banuk Shaman wiring he has over his body suggests he is a Banuk Shaman. Or it just lets him fit in more easily everywhere over the Carja and Bunuk Areas. I suspect we learn alot more about him in the Sequel now the basic story and Aloys history is revealed. But i still am not convinced he is evil as a whole. He craves knowledge most of all things. And knowledge is ultimatly power. But unlike Aloy he did not truly earn it. He just tags along and tries to win in in the most easy and comfortable way. But just because he does not fight alot or avoids it does not mean he is not able to. I picture the scenario where Sylens is going to do something very foolish when all that knowledge and power finally rises to his head. Or when he is forced to play his hand. He is also very much a Loner. Avoiding personal attachments of any kind. This will also play a factor in the Sequel. Because to some degree he does seem to care for Aloy. It is what they call the Redeeming quality. But it is for sure that Knowledge is what he is after. And unlike Aloy he is absolutely ruthless when it comes to aquiring it. At any cost. Even so much he throws Aloy in dangerous situations to get it. While Aloy enjoys the Journey and thrill of finding new things. He on the other hand is always right down to the goal. And from the History with the Banuk he has done it before..perhaps multiple times. Yeah that is bad Karma dude. And it always comes around.....Always. But over the course of the game he does change somewhat,or rather becomes a little nicer. I sure hope that will work out for him in the end. For now he did nothing unredeemable yet to Aloy. Even saved her. I hope that gets better...if not. Well it was nice knowing him...or not knowing him. Well time will tell. Or the Sequel..
10:56 slyness now wanted payback in hades to use him to make cards and resurrect the farm plage, by forbidden west, may be so far lurking in shadows and requesting ally’s help when necessary
A friend of mine had the idea that sylens may somehow be a human version of Apollo. The crazy morally ambiguous thirst for knowledge makes that seem kind of possible.
This is a really cool video, but one thing that has always interested me is the Titans, I would love if you made a video on them and do you have a patreon?
Thanks so much! I think when the channel gets a bit bigger, and I launch the Lore Bites series, that would be a great topic! And not yet, but I'll be sure to make a vid to announce when we set up our Patreon :)
Hmm, if AI have been purged, but that doesn't mean they're gone... does that that Apollo is still out there, just disconnected? It would be interesting if Sylens finds Apollo's AI core at some point...
I feel like if I ever hear Lance Reddick voicing/playing a character, its a very safe assumption to say he's gonna end up being a villain of some kind.
Good as always, while I think it's a stretch to say HADES has a network elsewhere, I don't disagree that it's a possibility. From the cinematic angle the game tries to push, I don't think it lends itself to that conclusion, but that would make for an interesting tonal twist if it did.
Thanks Andrew! I see where your you're coming from. I would have totally agreed with you pre FW, but just hearing CYAN describe her experience made me look towards other possibilities. Can't wait to find out for sure!
@@TheMrblessed yes exactly and it’d come as a twist at the end. One is lead to believe he is the big bad, but all along he’s been trying to stop the big evil that’s to come
I know I’m rly late but I think Sylens was originally Nora. Maybe the other Nora child who was outcast. There wasn’t much reason for them to add that story detail otherwise. Same with Rosts story it will come back up later, theres more to it. Sylens clothings looks Nora ish with banuk elements. The banuk are the closest to the Nora I think and seeking knowledge it’s likely he would have sought them out as a Nora outcast. Just speculation but he seems to know a bit about the Nora too. He doesn’t seem to respect them much the way he speaks about them and aloy. Maybe the reason he was so hungry for knowledge is bcuz he was denied it as a Nora. The Nora boy who was outcast was said to have killed his parents idk why Sylens would do that but he does seem pretty cold and unfeeling. This is just speculation but It’s been on my mind for quite awhile. Idk why they would add that bit of info about another Nora child outcast if it didn’t tie in somehow ya know. Just like Rosts story will tie I. Somehow eventually.
Everyone has completely ignored my theory on Sylens lol. When it turns out I’m right, I’m gonna be really mad at myself for not doing like a video about it or something.
Sykes thought it could achieve knowledge and screw ouver the misguided afterwards, but was kill ordered by hades afterward,xylene himself was misguided like the millions others born without Apollo knowledge , aloy however was lucky to get a focus adapt 6 and understand the world properly prior to adulthood and understand the world as we do
So Sylens was a former Banuk with an unspeakable, beyond graph and scale pursuit of knowledge. Only to repair a focus which led him to the A.I Hades. Throughout the good long while they shared each other's knowledge. Among them, was The Spire Of Holy Meridian when really it was a transmission array of Minerva, a thing of which was meant to activate certain codes from centuries ago. Sylens needed an army to help fulfill Hades's purpose. luckily, amongst the desert, they found the perfect one. those disloyal to King Avad, and loyal to the Mad Tyrannic Sun King Geron,The SHADOW Carja. Sylens set the leaders of the Shadow Carja up, let them to believe that Hades was an evil devil shadow in specific prophecies. Thus brought forth the creation of a Cult called The Eclipse, a little later and now equipped with focuses as communications. Unfortunately Sylens outgrew his usefulness to the point of forfeit. Sylens escaped and vanished. For a good long while, he watched from the shadows, And also through Aloy, Sylens learned of The Apocalyptic cost as a result of one of the old ones Ted Faro's mistakes and crimes.
Here's the thing I don't get, if the Titan merely housed the intellect of Hades (as in it was merely an extention/remote takeover) and hades existed elsewhere too why would it end up in Sylen's AI prison rather than return to where it originated?
@@apryldowns8586 ourea herself was doubting if he was banuk in the first place . His thirst for knowledge made him willing to wind banuk cables in order to be a good imposter .
I can’t understand how a Gaia’s subsystem found by Sylens in a titan. I falsely thought that Sylens moved Hades in the titan. How HADES found home on a titan in the first place??? How he escaped from his original facility? It makes no sense
Simple:when the subordinate functions of GAIA were released by HADES, they all essentially became various forms of malware. In my opinion, this allowed all of them to escape to other devices ,including the HORUS Titans. HADES simply took the closest one he could find in his range. The real question is :where did the rest of them go? And what are they up to?
Prediction: Sylens is ultimately trying to merge himself with AI to gain power and immortality. Look at his skin: he is augmented, which definitely does not seem the norm. He is literally inciting war to gain artefacts and knowledge. These aren't the actions of someone that wants to rule -- he wants something beyond being king. Amazing.
As much as I hate Sylens I really think he will be the one, we will thank for finding Apollo. Life can not go on with the subsystems getting out of control, so someona has to find a way to bring back GAIA. If you look at the story this way then it makes sense to gain more knowledge then they know at the time. So Sylens is not really doing a bad thing maybe just the wrong way.
Abel van Reenen nothing ever gets deleted from a network. Someone just has to have the knowledge and ability to find what’s been erased on the surface. For instance, if I delete all of my files off of my computer no one other than someone who knows how to retrieve that hidden/deleted information will be able to get my files back. Law enforcement, the FBI and CIA can retrieve any deleted information off of any computer (Computer Forensics). Apollo’s information might have been deleted but Appolo itself wasn’t destroyed. It’s information still exists, someone just has to retrieve it, it’s still in the background on the network.💪🏼 💯
@@AtreyuKhalil And this is why Ted killed all the alphas, to prevent them from ever recovering it, just like Aloy was able to recover deleted messages between Ted and Sobek with her alpha privileges.
@@esoopthederp7672 this is true. I’m not sure that he’s entirely evil. More like an egotistical douche nozzle with hints if psychopathy. Okay then he’s slightly evil 😂
@@oliviamoore3426 Sylens is SYMBOLICALLY Ted Faro in denial, he ironically hated Ted Faro but they both have that SAME lust and yearning for Knowledge, and for that yearning for knowledge they both unwittingly killed COUNTLESS People
He would have to be a clone of a beta or lower because we see all the alphas killed off in the same room, none looked like him and it'd also explain why he couldn't get in anywhere Aloy could.
An AI is, by definition, an intelligence. And Hades had nothing to do for the entirety of it's existence except monitor GAIA's progress and calculate whether he needed to step in. Much as CYAN read poetry and enjoyed the music of Concrete Beach Party, HADES likely studied APOLLO's information data banks to pass the time. It's difficult to comprehend how intelligent these AI's are. GAIA noticed she had received a coded transmission that unshackled HADES, realised what it meant, directed the ELEUTHIA-9 cradle to clone Elisabet Sobeck, and started a self-destruct program in a few microseconds. HADES had hundreds of years with nothing to do. It probably knows everything APOLLO did. As would all the other AI's, as their primary functions would take up only a small part of their processing power.
It still has to know things to do it job. Hades only has enough to do its job and has the capacity to think beyond that but it does not contain the entirety of human knowledge. Probably doesn even know what art is.
I think every AI -sub function or not-has a basic understanding of mathematics, geometry,physics and some forms of programming, all of which are at least partially necessary for their functions. Also,as AIs,they're designed to evolve by learning and calculating at varying degrees of complexity. Learning such subjects might have been par of the course for any one of them to truly become as advanced as they are now,possibly through their first simulations. Now that's something I'd like to watch.
They got a good thing going. Hopefully they or Sony won't pull an EA off like what they did with SWBFII and treasure boxes. Sony's pretty much alienating the majority of the gaming world over for keeping the game series locked to their consoles...
When Sylens speaks of a signal that originally awoke Hades, are we supposed to know what this is? Is this a story hint for a Sequel? Is this a remaining question? Or did I miss something? (slowly making my way through all your videos lol)
Hey there, you are first introduced to the signal during "Gaia's dying plea", but beyond that, its origin is still a mystery. To answer your second question, I think that will be a pivotal plot point in the sequel 😊
Ok, phew. So new information - thanks for sharing - but I didn't miss anything big. Hmmm, can't wait for more on this if/ when we get a sequel. Again, thanks so much for making these. I put them on in the background while I draw and its a huge help in helping me focus (pun not intended) and learn at the same time! ^_^
It seams that gia is a self aware AI, her subordinate functions are AIs but not self aware. Since the sub functions are not self aware, they would need to be supervised. It is also possible that the subfunctions are amounts of nano scale machines. When gia said "they're escaping", she may have been referring to the nano machines that are the subfunctions. This would explain what Sylens captured at the end. It could also be the blue light of the machines.
@Robert Phillips hades is an AI, a learning machine. I don't think it's self aware, it has no personality. The signal most likely activated the hades subfunction, when gaia self destructed, hades had no way to control the terraforming machines. So it found another way to preform it's task. Intelligence does not equal sentience.
Could Sylens be the Nora child who was made outcast for murdering his own mother that High Matriarch Teersa spoke when Aloy asked if there was any other children that were shunned by the tribe? Sylens is a man who is old enough to be a possible option for the description and going into the ruins is a punishable offence by the tribe and Sylens didn't say when he got is first Focus that didn't work or how long it took him to fix it.
@@alejandrofelixmorales176 Not necessarily. As stated in the video, it's entirely possible that Sylens was merely posing as a Banuk to gain access to the Conclave's machine relics. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. His name is almost certainly an alias intended to obscure his origins, so the rumours from FW might be a red herring.
Aloy used Sylens' spear to purge Hades. For all we know, he modified the spear to make a copy of Hades as soon as it was connected. By the time Hades was purged it was all ready downloaded and waiting for an open port. Sylens built a computer core to contain Hades. Once one the AI was either forced or given the chance to transfer to this new core.
What if that's what he's going to do, put hades inside that giant machine that creates machines
I'm just waiting for Forbidden West to come out and for THIS comment to be a sucessful prediction about what happens next in Sylens' journey for knowledge.
I really hope he is the villain in hfw
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He was already inside a Titan frame when Sylens first found him and wasn't able to do anything with it.
@@crazytidy2426 I don't
I've been waiting for a HZD lore channel for almost a year..thanks for being born.
HADES is fully contained in the Faraday cage Sylens built for him. Whatever his plans are, now that he knows exactly what HADES wants, he will never allow him to complete his purpose, as that would mean his own death as well. Sylens is by no means a good guy, but he knows he would gain nothing and lose everything if he lets HADES do what he wants.
He even says it him self. I would do it all over again... With a few more safe guards of course.
Are you sure it's a Faraday cage? It looked more like a normal bottle type thing to me lmao
*It wants* HADES isn’t a person
A Faraday Cage is no small trinket. I know Syl er ns learned everything he could from technology he found bit where did he learn to build a Faraday Cage??
@@OnHandPro That doesn’t mean he can’t have a gender. Gaia was referred to as she in-game so why can’t we do the same with Hades?
This is one of the deepest storylines of all time.
The thing with sylens is that his curiosity and brilliance is probably humanity's best hope of having a technologically advanced civilization in the near future
Yes! It's a shame it's not his thing to be a teacher because it would be awesome if he set up a kind of 'school' to pass on his knowledge to others.
While you're right, the biggest obstacle Sobeck had with building Gaia was that not only did it have to be capable of all it had to do, but she had to care about people. Sylens only cares about himself and his own aims. Sylens would only share his knowledge with others if it benefitted him.
I believe so too
Sylens personality is TOO much like Ted Faro, the yearning for endless knowledge, and the ironic thing is, he hated ted Faro, yet Faro’s yearning for knowledge cause the world’s doom in the first place, Sylen is just doing the same
@@asscheeks3212 interesting point of view 😃
Goodbye lance.....you will always be zavala in my heart, but your role as sylens is irreplaceable
Hades told Sylens about many things from the past...but he didn't tell him about memes. Suppose it's for the best. Imagine Sylen's face if Hades asked him if he knew de way.
HAHA
thats because Sylen's can't handle the power he must first have the high ground
Sylens would just call it primitive nonsense.
As it is
Could be worse hades could have sent him to help a settlement.
I genuinely appreciate how deep you get into the lore, some of the topics you discuss other lore coverage channels would skim over as they’d see them insignificant but you tackle them and do it very well and I love that, thank you very much
Sylens is such a compelling character; I look forward to seeing what he'll be up to in FW.
I love your Horizon: Zero Dawn series. Gonna watch them all. +Subscribed.
Keep up the great work!!
+slampog Thanks so much! Very happy your enjoying them, and welcome to the community :)
My theory is Sylens is none other than Peter Tshivhumbe, the elusive founder of Far Zenith, who has achieved ageless immortality like Ted Fado and the Zeniths, but through integrating machine parts with his anatomy.
“The way was shut.”
Aye! I see what ya did there and you have my respect ✊
"It was made by those who are dead?"......hehehehe...genius!
Love the subtle message:
How misunderstood knowledge can sometimes create a cult and its never said outright but as a player you realize when you find the truth and it has been misinterpreted.
Lance Reddick getting the same greek reference in two different media was awesome. Charon, the concierge in John Wick and in Horizon Zero Dawn as Sylens ( when in the end, after getting Hades inside that lantern look-a-like faraday cage, he was also representing the Charon)
The Horus titan at the end might actually be the Horus that Hades was in when Sylens first met him, I mostly think this due to the big orb in the Horus’s “mouth” which looks like Hades before he was purged from Minerva
@Housein Al Haddad
Plz shut up I know that I just didn’t know that when I made the comment
Nah. Sylens said he found that Titan in the Jewel. Its the one from the Eclipse base mission
@@kingcal52 it looks to me like the one he took Hades to in the Forbidden West
Sylens was one of my favorite all-time video game characters, voiced to perfection by Lance. Such a talent. Such a loss.
I was hazy on a few of these details of the sylens story arc so thanks for clearing it up for me. This was really engaging. I love this game.
What interests me is, Hades is merely the AI doing what it was meant to do, but of course in a limited view of the whole situation since it was awakened. Sylens seems to be, unfortunately, the represented part of humanity that views knowledge as power and sees that power as a way of control. Whatever his personal goals are he is no better than Ted Faro. My intrigue is in who or what sent the signal that awoke Hades. Sylens refers to them as it's masters. This means there is yet an unrevealed larger threat with even more knowledge that Sylens would love to know. Aliens? Those from the Odyessy mission ( love your video on that and find it the most likely), or even a clone of Ted Faro ( love that vid also). Whatever the case Aloy, Sylens, and Hades will play I would imagine a even larger role in the next installment of the game.
Keep up the great work.
Thanks Tony! Yeah, that's the big one. Hope we find out more in the sequel!!
Sylens doesn't seem to want power. He is a seeker of knowledge, of which he obtains at any cost. This causes him to do some bad things, but he is not evil. As for HADES, I do think that all of it was trapped after GAIA blew up prime, but HEPHAESTUS is the one running amuk. CYAN said that it would make stronger machines, but its goal was not extinction of mankind like HADES. The stronger machines were in response to man hunting its creations, nothing more. The real enemy is the "signal". Was it simply a surviving AI that wasn't shutdown, or was it something more working in the background that created the virus that started all of this? Questions for the sequel.
has humanity not sacrificed so much in the pursuit of knowledge?
@@matthewscottshea
Thats what every evil person uses to justify their deeds.
@@jxsilicon9 Every evil person uses the pursuit of knowledge to justify their deeds? Dude that isn't even true in this game, let alone real life. Ted Faro's the most evil person in all of HZD history and he was a business school dropout who only ever cared about his own wealth and ego and didn't give a shit about knowledge. His dumb ass didn't even know how his own robots worked. Sobeck and Shen's lifelong pursuits of knowledge and innovation allowed them to save the world twice.
Sylens snarking at Aloy for one of her first questions to him wanting to know his name when all along one of Sylens first questions to Hades was....wanting to know his name!
love your Horizon: Zero Dawn series. Gonna watch them all. +Subscribed.
Keep up the great work!!
Even if Sylens turns out to be the big bad in horizon 2 or even potentially Horizon 3, I'll always love this dude because he's portrayed by Lance Reddick
I know this is ages ago but how did I not find your channel when I first played this game amazing video subbed👍
I played this game for the sake of Lance Reddick, great portrayal, legendary lore. And amazing videos bro keep up the good work.
I have a strange theory about Sylens. I believe that Sylens, is actually Apollo. Here me out okay. Here’s why I think he is.
1) Apollo became an AI of its own, just like Hades and Hephaestus did. Each AI, from the moment they became independent entities, continued with what they were programmed to do, such as Haphaestus ,who constructed new machines to defend GAIA’s creations from humans so they could continue doing their role in the terraforming system, and Hades, who wished to follow his programming and annihilate life on earth. Apollo, however, wouldn’t be able to accomplish its goal of passing on its knowledge to mankind, as Ted had erased all of its knowledge. But I believe, that when he became an AI, he would’ve wanted to have searched for this missing knowledge, by exploring the world around him, in order to help fulfil his purpose. But that raises the question, how, would he do that?
2) To do this though, he’d have to find a imaginative solution to accomplish this goal, just like how Hades for example decided to utilise the Faro Robots to accomplish his directive, as he no longer had access to Zero Dawns terraforming system. Another example is Haphaestus taking advantage of CYAN to take control of Firebreak to construct Cauldron Epsilon. Point being, both of them were able to find alternative means of accomplishing their mission. Apollo being a advanced AI would’ve known that it would be impossible for him to traverse the old ones ruins as an ai on his own. So I reckon he would’ve utilised something left in the ruins of the old ones, the deactivated Servito bots. They are the only bots we’ve seen who look remotely humanoid. I reckon Apollo would’ve took control of the least rundown servitude he can find in Eleuthia’s ruins, and modify them to make them look human, so that way he wouldn’t stand out.
3) And yes, I know he doesn’t look like a robot, but if my theory is correct, that would be the point. Plus, we already have human like machines today. It would only make sense that by the 2060’s, they would’ve made great advancements in the creation of human like robots. Plus, if he were a robot, it would make sense why he’s so calculating most of the time.
4) But of course we’ve seen that Sylens show emotions, something you wouldn’t expect from a robot. But CYAN and GAIA were advanced enough to be able to not only feel these emotions, but to understand them. Plus, he always makes logical choices to accomplishing his goals, even though they might be morally questionable at times, such as creating the eclipse, or capturing Hades. This is might be because, as he is a machine, he’d make the logical choice.
5) He only comes into direct contact with Alloy if it’s necessary. I reckon that’s because he doesn’t want her to notice that he’s not doing simple things a human would normally do, such as eat or sleep, cuz as he is a machine, he wouldn’t do any of this.
6) Sylens has never told Alloy where’s he from. Ourea believed that he wasn’t Banuk, due to the horrific things he did to them. I reckon that his Banuk look is just a illusion, so no one would see him as a machine. Heck, even the wiring could actually be apart of his mechanical body.
7) Your probably thinking, “oh, but if he’s an ai, then how come he didn’t know about Zero Dawn or GAIA”. This might be because he’d have lost the info about Gaia or zero Dawn.
8) Everything that Sylens has done, has been for the ultimate goal of pursuing knowledge. If he really is Apollo, then I reckon that this desire, is really his programming.
Of course, I’m not 100% sure this could be true however, as all of this is still a theory, as it has many holes in it of course, but it sounds like a interesting theory nonetheless. I could be wrong, but wouldn’t it be a cool twist? Plus to me, this seems the closest to something I think Apollo would do now that’s he’s free.
What do you think?
I don’t know
Good theory in theory
But it destroys the point of sylens in a way for me.
Sylens is a character that values Knowledge over everything else but somewhere along the way he lost his morals and became pure selfish that’s the tragedy of sylens so when you make him an advanced au the most human thing in sylens become not really relevant anymore.
Maybe it’s because I see myself sometimes in sylens as a warning that pursuit of knowledge isn’t everything in life but fun theory
i think its a really cool theory
Sylens as an individual existed prior to the Unknown Signal and the destruction of Gaia Prime. He was the first to explore the smoking crater left after Gaia nuked herself. That means he cannot be a clone of Apollo's alpha or Apollo in a Servitor. He is simply a highly educated and inquisitive individual who will do questionable things to gain knowledge (explore a massive explosion's remnants, form the Eclipse, and even trap Hades.)
Apollo was destroyed before Gaia was deployed
Man I love sylens so much. He was just as good in forbidden west, if not, better. R.i.p my man lance reddick, there will never be someone as good as him to play sylens. He was sylens. 😢 🙏
I'm loving these vids. Can't wait for Forbidden West
Let the hype build....
Sylens is a interesting mysterious character who i will never trust. some very good coverage of the subject.
With all due respect, I think it's clear that was all of Hades was in that Horus computer core.When he said "Titain frame merly houses intelect" he was explaining he was not a war machine he was simply using it as a shell.
As to why the master override failed to desroy him, I have an idea.
It was created to purge either Gaia or her subfuctions which is why she asked Aloy to use it on Hades. But at the time she used it, Hades was no longer just a subfunction. He had been made self-aware, if chaotic and illogical. So it stands to reason the master overide wouldn't entirely work on him becuase it wasn't desinged for sutch an enity. Although, it was primaraly desinged to use on Gaia and she was at least, if not more, advanced as Hades.
I also think Sylens gave Aloy his staff duplicitously, expecting/hoping Aloy would need to use it to hack Hades. It was programed so Aloy's purge wouldn't kill Hades, but to transmit/trap him in Sylens' handheld cage.
@@LordTelperion It's quite the ploy. What I think he did was build a backup drive into his staff. Once connected to Hades, it creates a back up storing a copy while the hardware override destoryed the original. Then once he was where he needed to be, he opened the back door to the staff giving the copy of Hades only one way out. Him. He dose tell you the would do it all over again. With a few more safe guards, of course.
I’m pretty sure Sylens was a Nora outcast. Orea mentioned they questioned if he was ever banuk to begin with. That piece of information is only interesting if he is a Nora. Like Who cares if he is carja or oseram. I think he might even be the boy Teersa mentioned. The Nora boy who was outcast for killing his own mother at age 13. Why Sylens would kill his mother idk. But they gave us that bit of information for a reason. But if you compare his outfit to other tribes it looks mostly Nora. He carries his stuff from the back of his belt like a Nora too. He calls himself a lone wanderer who left his tribe behind a long time ago, a searcher of the forbidden places, Only nora call the ruins forbidden. It would mean he has that in common with Aloy both shunned from the tribe as children. Maybe he grew up in mothers watch and got a peek inside the mountain. Growing up as a Nora with intelligence might have spurred his interest in the old ones. Surviving in the wilds since age 13 would make him tough too. Also it only hints at his intelligence. Outside Gaia prime he created that contraption to try and get the door open. And the device that holds hades at the end. Also we know Sylens is a user person. He might have had something to do with Rosts outcast story. We still don’t know why the outlanders came. Teersa’s story about Rost and the 13 yr old Nora boy who was outcast rly interests me. In a video game they give you info like that for a reason. So I’ve been looking for how those story’s tie in. And yeah I’m convinced Sylens is that Nora boy grown up. Orea said he came from the distant north but a Nora interested in the old ones I would assume would definitely make there way to Ban ur. Even when you go back to all mother they way Sylens talks about the Nora is as if he has had personal dealings with there ignorant ways. Most of the tribes know little of the Nora they don’t have much dealings with them. But Sylens talks about them with obvious disdain. Idk just one of my many theory’s. I also have tons of theory’s on the banuk too. There paintings are very revealing and everything Orea says too. I’m pretty sure I got them almost figured out. One of the triangles they paint everywhere is the same shape on Cyan and Gaia’s tech. Orea is not the first banuk to have contact with an AI. It says as much in Banukis story. I think the blue light is where AIs who are missing there tech live. It talked about Vast Silver escaping into the holoscape. Maybe the blue light is the last place on earth that is “online”. Maybe Elisium? We know it wasn’t far from Gaiaprime it had to be in the claim or Banur. Idk obviously I’m seriously obsessed with this game lol
This channel is life!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I like the exchange between sylens and hades
I wonder if Sylens was protecting Aloy from the very first moment she put on her focus. Hades hadn’t picked up on her for many years until her first meeting with another focus.when that happened that focus was malfunctioning like Sylens was blocking coms I don’t think he expect that confrontation on till it was too late. If you notice from Aloys first fight with the Eclipse they didn’t have functional focus giving her an advantage.
What if Sylens is a corrupted AI that invaded or made a human looking body that is now trying to find out its past almost like alloy which might explain why he talks like other ai we have met like Cyan. Because even people who were from the same tribe didn’t know where he came from as well
Your legends series is really good. Thanks for putting this together!
I watched Fringe and John Wick. He is so perfect for this role. When he showed up i was like "No Way". I just could not picture the man with the so familliar voice for a while. As about where Sylens comes from. My suspicions are either from Ban-Ur or......The forbidden west. In the DLC The Frozen Wilds the female Shaman tells you they were not even sure if he was Banuk at all. He looks the part for sure and had history with the Banuk. He might not even be from the American continent at all for as far we know now. I doubt his name is even Sylens at all. It of course nudges to the word Silence as in secretive. Like Aloy nudges to the word Alloy. A material created out of several ones. Hinting to her being a clone of Elizabeth Sobeck. Even the AI's hint to their Greek god counterparts. Anyway proven is that he has formidable knowledge about Machines at least. The rest he does not share easily. Only that he had dealings with the Banuk and that he was the founder of Eclipse. He is also reasonably advanced in Age. The Banuk Shaman wiring he has over his body suggests he is a Banuk Shaman. Or it just lets him fit in more easily everywhere over the Carja and Bunuk Areas. I suspect we learn alot more about him in the Sequel now the basic story and Aloys history is revealed. But i still am not convinced he is evil as a whole. He craves knowledge most of all things. And knowledge is ultimatly power. But unlike Aloy he did not truly earn it. He just tags along and tries to win in in the most easy and comfortable way. But just because he does not fight alot or avoids it does not mean he is not able to. I picture the scenario where Sylens is going to do something very foolish when all that knowledge and power finally rises to his head. Or when he is forced to play his hand. He is also very much a Loner. Avoiding personal attachments of any kind. This will also play a factor in the Sequel. Because to some degree he does seem to care for Aloy. It is what they call the Redeeming quality. But it is for sure that Knowledge is what he is after. And unlike Aloy he is absolutely ruthless when it comes to aquiring it. At any cost. Even so much he throws Aloy in dangerous situations to get it. While Aloy enjoys the Journey and thrill of finding new things. He on the other hand is always right down to the goal. And from the History with the Banuk he has done it before..perhaps multiple times. Yeah that is bad Karma dude. And it always comes around.....Always. But over the course of the game he does change somewhat,or rather becomes a little nicer. I sure hope that will work out for him in the end. For now he did nothing unredeemable yet to Aloy. Even saved her. I hope that gets better...if not. Well it was nice knowing him...or not knowing him. Well time will tell. Or the Sequel..
10:56 slyness now wanted payback in hades to use him to make cards and resurrect the farm plage, by forbidden west, may be so far lurking in shadows and requesting ally’s help when necessary
A friend of mine had the idea that sylens may somehow be a human version of Apollo. The crazy morally ambiguous thirst for knowledge makes that seem kind of possible.
Now that is a angle, his single dimensional thirst for knowledge is all encompassing, he is a great character....
Just realised that the actor for Bahavas is the guy who did Jonathan Reid from Vampyr - such a distinctive voice!
This is a really cool video, but one thing that has always interested me is the Titans, I would love if you made a video on them and do you have a patreon?
Thanks so much! I think when the channel gets a bit bigger, and I launch the Lore Bites series, that would be a great topic! And not yet, but I'll be sure to make a vid to announce when we set up our Patreon :)
Hmm, if AI have been purged, but that doesn't mean they're gone... does that that Apollo is still out there, just disconnected? It would be interesting if Sylens finds Apollo's AI core at some point...
I feel like if I ever hear Lance Reddick voicing/playing a character, its a very safe assumption to say he's gonna end up being a villain of some kind.
Unless it's Zavala from Destiny. That guy is the definition of a good guy :P.
Good as always, while I think it's a stretch to say HADES has a network elsewhere, I don't disagree that it's a possibility. From the cinematic angle the game tries to push, I don't think it lends itself to that conclusion, but that would make for an interesting tonal twist if it did.
Thanks Andrew! I see where your you're coming from. I would have totally agreed with you pre FW, but just hearing CYAN describe her experience made me look towards other possibilities. Can't wait to find out for sure!
I can’t wait to see what this rascal will do in Forbidden West
And what he did to hades
i love this channel
Does anyone else believe that sylenz will be an unwilling hero? Like he’ll help aloy save the world
I hope so. It would be odd coming from him, seeing how self serving he is. But I would like that... He could be a great teacher!
I hope so. It would be odd coming from him, seeing how self serving he is. But I would like that... He could be a great teacher!
@@TheMrblessed yes exactly and it’d come as a twist at the end. One is lead to believe he is the big bad, but all along he’s been trying to stop the big evil that’s to come
Interesting, could Sylens be like Aloy, a clone of one the Alpha or Beta ( i.e. Alpha Charles Ronson)
When he said that I’m like: idgaf what knowledge I found you flipping backpacking on my focus damn skippy I wanna know your name
I really hope Sylens will be kind of an Antihero in Horizon II.
I know I’m rly late but I think Sylens was originally Nora. Maybe the other Nora child who was outcast. There wasn’t much reason for them to add that story detail otherwise. Same with Rosts story it will come back up later, theres more to it. Sylens clothings looks Nora ish with banuk elements. The banuk are the closest to the Nora I think and seeking knowledge it’s likely he would have sought them out as a Nora outcast. Just speculation but he seems to know a bit about the Nora too. He doesn’t seem to respect them much the way he speaks about them and aloy. Maybe the reason he was so hungry for knowledge is bcuz he was denied it as a Nora. The Nora boy who was outcast was said to have killed his parents idk why Sylens would do that but he does seem pretty cold and unfeeling. This is just speculation but It’s been on my mind for quite awhile. Idk why they would add that bit of info about another Nora child outcast if it didn’t tie in somehow ya know. Just like Rosts story will tie I. Somehow eventually.
Everyone has completely ignored my theory on Sylens lol. When it turns out I’m right, I’m gonna be really mad at myself for not doing like a video about it or something.
My favorite character
He's also Titan Vanguard of the Last City
Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with Hades on Earth.
wow so epic and dark history this was.
so Sylen was the one pulling the strings all along not Helis?
Btw. I LOVE these videos please never stop! :D
Sykes thought it could achieve knowledge and screw ouver the misguided afterwards, but was kill ordered by hades afterward,xylene himself was misguided like the millions others born without Apollo knowledge , aloy however was lucky to get a focus adapt 6 and understand the world properly prior to adulthood and understand the world as we do
So Sylens was a former Banuk with an unspeakable, beyond graph and scale pursuit of knowledge. Only to repair a focus which led him to the A.I Hades. Throughout the good long while they shared each other's knowledge. Among them, was The Spire Of Holy Meridian when really it was a transmission array of Minerva, a thing of which was meant to activate certain codes from centuries ago.
Sylens needed an army to help fulfill Hades's purpose. luckily, amongst the desert, they found the perfect one. those disloyal to King Avad, and loyal to the Mad Tyrannic Sun King Geron,The SHADOW Carja. Sylens set the leaders of the Shadow Carja up, let them to believe that Hades was an evil devil shadow in specific prophecies. Thus brought forth the creation of a Cult called The Eclipse, a little later and now equipped with focuses as communications. Unfortunately Sylens outgrew his usefulness to the point of forfeit. Sylens escaped and vanished. For a good long while, he watched from the shadows,
And also through Aloy, Sylens learned of The Apocalyptic cost as a result of one of the old ones Ted Faro's mistakes and crimes.
Here's the thing I don't get, if the Titan merely housed the intellect of Hades (as in it was merely an extention/remote takeover) and hades existed elsewhere too why would it end up in Sylen's AI prison rather than return to where it originated?
Could he be the other nora outcast? There was a 13 yo that allegedly killed his mother , was outcast and never returned for his proving .
He’s Banuk As far as we know
@@apryldowns8586 ourea herself was doubting if he was banuk in the first place . His thirst for knowledge made him willing to wind banuk cables in order to be a good imposter .
Do one on Elizabet sobeck
Just subbed to the channel I love the game I platinum it a month after it came out and to see I missed so much been watching your vids all night.
I can’t understand how a Gaia’s subsystem found by Sylens in a titan. I falsely thought that Sylens moved Hades in the titan. How HADES found home on a titan in the first place??? How he escaped from his original facility? It makes no sense
Simple:when the subordinate functions of GAIA were released by HADES, they all essentially became various forms of malware. In my opinion, this allowed all of them to escape to other devices ,including the HORUS Titans. HADES simply took the closest one he could find in his range. The real question is :where did the rest of them go? And what are they up to?
I love to think his biggest mistake was to use Aloy
Sylens: brainiac
Prediction: Sylens is ultimately trying to merge himself with AI to gain power and immortality. Look at his skin: he is augmented, which definitely does not seem the norm. He is literally inciting war to gain artefacts and knowledge. These aren't the actions of someone that wants to rule -- he wants something beyond being king.
Amazing.
Oh, and consider the line "titan frame merely houses intellect" and the response "now that's more like it" may forebode his own personal desires.
Banuk all have wires woven into their skin, it's part of their religion
As much as I hate Sylens I really think he will be the one, we will thank for finding Apollo. Life can not go on with the subsystems getting out of control, so someona has to find a way to bring back GAIA. If you look at the story this way then it makes sense to gain more knowledge then they know at the time. So Sylens is not really doing a bad thing maybe just the wrong way.
Ted Faro removed all of the knowledge of Apollo. He said he had to destroy their curse [the knowledge]
Abel van Reenen nothing ever gets deleted from a network. Someone just has to have the knowledge and ability to find what’s been erased on the surface. For instance, if I delete all of my files off of my computer no one other than someone who knows how to retrieve that hidden/deleted information will be able to get my files back. Law enforcement, the FBI and CIA can retrieve any deleted information off of any computer (Computer Forensics). Apollo’s information might have been deleted but Appolo itself wasn’t destroyed. It’s information still exists, someone just has to retrieve it, it’s still in the background on the network.💪🏼 💯
@@AtreyuKhalil And this is why Ted killed all the alphas, to prevent them from ever recovering it, just like Aloy was able to recover deleted messages between Ted and Sobek with her alpha privileges.
Why is Gaia in jeopardy, didn't she self-destruct?
Sylens talks like Venom
I don’t believe that sylens is evil. I think that sylens will be key in reconstituting / repair Gaia and ultimately help aloy save the world
I mean, he is evil, it’s just that his evilness is very helpful on occasion
@@esoopthederp7672 this is true. I’m not sure that he’s entirely evil. More like an egotistical douche nozzle with hints if psychopathy. Okay then he’s slightly evil 😂
@@oliviamoore3426 Sylens is SYMBOLICALLY Ted Faro in denial, he ironically hated Ted Faro but they both have that SAME lust and yearning for Knowledge, and for that yearning for knowledge they both unwittingly killed COUNTLESS People
I still think Sylens sent the transmission to Hades or rather to GIAI
Could it be that sylens is a clone of an alpha or someone who came across and learned from
Horus?
He would have to be a clone of a beta or lower because we see all the alphas killed off in the same room, none looked like him and it'd also explain why he couldn't get in anywhere Aloy could.
I bet Sylens is like Aloy. A clone.
my point is apollo was erased how hades has that info all the funtions of gaia have part of the knowledge of apollo just in case?
xzenitramx666 they were made from the ancient times most probably that not only hades but the other subfunctions has the knowledge of the ancients.
An AI is, by definition, an intelligence. And Hades had nothing to do for the entirety of it's existence except monitor GAIA's progress and calculate whether he needed to step in.
Much as CYAN read poetry and enjoyed the music of Concrete Beach Party, HADES likely studied APOLLO's information data banks to pass the time.
It's difficult to comprehend how intelligent these AI's are. GAIA noticed she had received a coded transmission that unshackled HADES, realised what it meant, directed the ELEUTHIA-9 cradle to clone Elisabet Sobeck, and started a self-destruct program in a few microseconds.
HADES had hundreds of years with nothing to do. It probably knows everything APOLLO did. As would all the other AI's, as their primary functions would take up only a small part of their processing power.
It still has to know things to do it job. Hades only has enough to do its job and has the capacity to think beyond that but it does not contain the entirety of human knowledge. Probably doesn even know what art is.
I think every AI -sub function or not-has a basic understanding of mathematics, geometry,physics and some forms of programming, all of which are at least partially necessary for their functions. Also,as AIs,they're designed to evolve by learning and calculating at varying degrees of complexity. Learning such subjects might have been par of the course for any one of them to truly become as advanced as they are now,possibly through their first simulations. Now that's something I'd like to watch.
Do you think Guerilla will make a sequel? If so maybe you could do a video about it and what the story could be about
+johgus96 With how much commercial and critical success received, it's hard to imagine they wouldn't. And I think I can make that happen :)
They got a good thing going. Hopefully they or Sony won't pull an EA off like what they did with SWBFII and treasure boxes.
Sony's pretty much alienating the majority of the gaming world over for keeping the game series locked to their consoles...
sony has exclusive games, they wouldn't eb able to make such games if they went multiplat
It is said to come out in 2021
I travelled back in time to say....HAPPY Horizon: Forbidden West month!! 17 days to go.
When Sylens speaks of a signal that originally awoke Hades, are we supposed to know what this is? Is this a story hint for a Sequel? Is this a remaining question? Or did I miss something? (slowly making my way through all your videos lol)
Hey there, you are first introduced to the signal during "Gaia's dying plea", but beyond that, its origin is still a mystery. To answer your second question, I think that will be a pivotal plot point in the sequel 😊
Ok, phew. So new information - thanks for sharing - but I didn't miss anything big. Hmmm, can't wait for more on this if/ when we get a sequel. Again, thanks so much for making these. I put them on in the background while I draw and its a huge help in helping me focus (pun not intended) and learn at the same time! ^_^
Bruh hades voice is fucking cool it’s just power
Unless hades Is a Mecha we will be fine
Part 2 in 2021
The way is shut and the dead keep it.
Whats with the lord of the rings quote?
@@steel2572 The guy in the movie said the way was shut for sylense and that made me think about the Lord of the Rings quote.
Great video.
It seams that gia is a self aware AI, her subordinate functions are AIs but not self aware. Since the sub functions are not self aware, they would need to be supervised. It is also possible that the subfunctions are amounts of nano scale machines. When gia said "they're escaping", she may have been referring to the nano machines that are the subfunctions. This would explain what Sylens captured at the end. It could also be the blue light of the machines.
@Robert Phillips hades is an AI, a learning machine. I don't think it's self aware, it has no personality. The signal most likely activated the hades subfunction, when gaia self destructed, hades had no way to control the terraforming machines. So it found another way to preform it's task. Intelligence does not equal sentience.
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sylens is the older guy in the big chair xD
Nice Lord of the Rings reference
Could Sylens be the Nora child who was made outcast for murdering his own mother that High Matriarch Teersa spoke when Aloy asked if there was any other children that were shunned by the tribe? Sylens is a man who is old enough to be a possible option for the description and going into the ruins is a punishable offence by the tribe and Sylens didn't say when he got is first Focus that didn't work or how long it took him to fix it.
Sylens is a Banuk, they know him in Frozen wilds, at least their High Matriarch
@@alejandrofelixmorales176 Not necessarily. As stated in the video, it's entirely possible that Sylens was merely posing as a Banuk to gain access to the Conclave's machine relics.
I certainly wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. His name is almost certainly an alias intended to obscure his origins, so the rumours from FW might be a red herring.
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Could Silens be Ted Faro's reincarnation ? it may be a far fetched hypothesis but ...
The robat that big robat do a film about it