This is the best way to modernize the line as quickly as possible. Give the workers uninterrupted access to the tracks to get this done. People might not like it but there’s no gain without some pain.
Although I don't live near the G line, and it would be inconvinient for many people this Summer, this is honestly a way better option than to have weekend suspension for 2 years. Great job MTA!
It’s much better to do a full shutdown for weeks at a time rather than only doing weekend shutdowns. It’s the fastest way to get these projects done and it also saves a lot of money. There’s no gain without some pain.
That's not going to happen, and here's why: 1) Not enough train crews or ridership. 2) The G interlines with the F, which receives priority since it's much busier.
Yes I Agree 👍 after She Delayed Congestion Pricing a few weeks ago definitely I'm still very Upset by that Reckless move by Governor Hochul delaying Major Subway Improvements like New Train Cars, More Signal Modernization for CBTC On other lines and brand New Evaluators and many more
@mrlegend4456railfanning The Governor made the right decision. Tell the MTA to spend their money more responsibly and stop wasting the $20 billion they already get.
@MTA @Hugo If you really want to improve the G train? Add more cars, from 4-5 cars to 8 cars on the G, extend the G to Forrest Hills or at least Queens Plaza. Repair, renovate and reopen the Bergen St. station lower level for the F train to use as an express (skipping 4 stops, from Bergen to 7th Ave) and the G as a local on the upper level. That way the F & G are not sharing the same trackway, cutting down commute time on the F and cutting the wait time between G trains. #MTA #GTrains #ImprovetheG
This is the best way to modernize the line as quickly as possible. Give the workers uninterrupted access to the tracks to get this done. People might not like it but there’s no gain without some pain...
The R211 is expected to expand the fleet. Once that’s done, G trains could become full-length. As for sending G trains to Forest Hills, not all of them have to go there. Instead, some of them can short-turn at 21st St using the pocket track which currently acts as a crossover for Court Sq (one stop north) which currently acts as the terminus. Also, local trains on the QBL don’t have to terminate at Forest Hills. One local service can go to Jamaica Center (due to the branch splitting after Briarwood which is a local station) and the others can go to 179th St. As for the express services, maybe one can go to 179th St and the other can short-turn at Forest Hills.
I hope the MTA also cleans the stations inside the G Line. They have a lot of time to do so and it will make the G train a much more pleasant train to ride. Oh and as well making it 8-10 cars!
I'd like to ask the M & F train czar's where those trains are at, because they never seem to run. And if they do manage to show up it's every hour on the hour.
@@Futuristbillpicone They don't need to eminent domain the system to audit it. Heck, you don't even need the fed to audit them, the state has the power to do so.
@@i_am_a_toast_of_french Use 179th Street for what? I'm almost completely sure that riders east of 71st Avenue don't want any QBL local at their stations Improve Jamaica Center's switches? How do we do that?
@@CLBT7437 179th street has so much more capacity as a terminal and jamaica center switches should be closer to the platform so more qbl express can go through, another set of switches should be past the platform to allow the tail tracks to be used better for storage, also 71 st doesn't need fumigation if the train is going back into service in 2 minutes e trains can go to jamaica ctr with 15 tph and f/m/r trains can go to 179 st with 30 tph (f express, m/r local on hillside)
@@i_am_a_toast_of_french You didn't pay attention to what I said, did you? Riders east of 71st Avenue don't want M or R service at their stations. The E and F are preferred.
I'm not surprised, I've been taking the G service almost every day for the past 6 years. It has always been messy service sometimes on weekdays, and it gets considerably worse, especially on weekend holidays. Don't try to make it look as if you are doing a service to those of us who use the G line daily. You are not! This specific thing you spoke about has already been happening with Shuttle busses for at least 2.5 - 3 years now. It's really suck that the MTA has been making a mockery of citizens tax dollars and still they would comes on here with more lies to it looks like they are helping.
This is the best way to modernize the line as quickly as possible. Give the workers uninterrupted access to the tracks to get this done. People might not like it but there’s no gain without some pain.
Wastes a lot of time to set up and dismantle every week
@@stevenroshni1228 careless 40 year old
Agreed. It’s much more efficient to do a full closure than piecemeal work for several weekends.
Although I don't live near the G line, and it would be inconvinient for many people this Summer, this is honestly a way better option than to have weekend suspension for 2 years. Great job MTA!
If this means the G will run as well as the L I'm fucking down for this. Bring it.
It’s much better to do a full shutdown for weeks at a time rather than only doing weekend shutdowns. It’s the fastest way to get these projects done and it also saves a lot of money. There’s no gain without some pain.
The G would have to buy and run more trains and the F go express in Brooklyn all day, in order to match the L train
That's not going to happen, and here's why:
1) Not enough train crews or ridership.
2) The G interlines with the F, which receives priority since it's much busier.
Vote Hochul out in 2026 y'all
It was the BEST decision she ever made while in office.
Huh I don't care about politics take it somewhere else
She's going to get taken to court if she doesn't implement it after the election. Congestion Pricing is the law of the land. @@RantRantJoe
Yes I Agree 👍 after She Delayed Congestion Pricing a few weeks ago definitely I'm still very Upset by that Reckless move by Governor Hochul delaying Major Subway Improvements like New Train Cars, More Signal Modernization for CBTC On other lines and brand New Evaluators and many more
@mrlegend4456railfanning The Governor made the right decision. Tell the MTA to spend their money more responsibly and stop wasting the $20 billion they already get.
@MTA @Hugo If you really want to improve the G train? Add more cars, from 4-5 cars to 8 cars on the G, extend the G to Forrest Hills or at least Queens Plaza. Repair, renovate and reopen the Bergen St. station lower level for the F train to use as an express (skipping 4 stops, from Bergen to 7th Ave) and the G as a local on the upper level. That way the F & G are not sharing the same trackway, cutting down commute time on the F and cutting the wait time between G trains. #MTA #GTrains #ImprovetheG
One thing I already know about the G train shutdown is that my local line is going to be crippled by these service changes this summer.
This is the best way to modernize the line as quickly as possible. Give the workers uninterrupted access to the tracks to get this done. People might not like it but there’s no gain without some pain...
Well, the G Train is going to be updated. : )
G to Forest hills when?
Its not gonna happen. 🚫🚫🚫
Make the G 10 cars long!
As much as they want 2 they can't there not enough r160s to go around
Ridership on the Crosstown Line is too low to justify 10 car G trains at the current frequency.
Their is not enough fleet trains.
@@CLBT7437 I guess running G trains to Forest Hills is off the table, too, now I know why the J, L, and M do better with ridership!!🙄
@kevinb8881 The J, L and M have to be 8 cars. Idk what you're trying to tell me.
Yes. Running the G to Forest Hills is certainly off the table.
The R211 is expected to expand the fleet. Once that’s done, G trains could become full-length. As for sending G trains to Forest Hills, not all of them have to go there. Instead, some of them can short-turn at 21st St using the pocket track which currently acts as a crossover for Court Sq (one stop north) which currently acts as the terminus. Also, local trains on the QBL don’t have to terminate at Forest Hills. One local service can go to Jamaica Center (due to the branch splitting after Briarwood which is a local station) and the others can go to 179th St. As for the express services, maybe one can go to 179th St and the other can short-turn at Forest Hills.
What a disaster. Shuttle buses are about as fast as walking. Or slower when you have to wait.
At least I don’t live near the G nor use it routinely but I bet this signal modernization work will have a lot of good effects once completed.
HOW FREQUENT WILL THE BUSES RUN? I HAD TO WAIT 40 MINUTES FOR A BUS BECAUSE THE G WAS SHUT DOWN.
i just hope there are decent bus treatments at choke points along the route to keep bus speeds up!
I hope the MTA also cleans the stations inside the G Line. They have a lot of time to do so and it will make the G train a much more pleasant train to ride. Oh and as well making it 8-10 cars!
Oh God, the G train...
May this be the last major shutdown of the G train
So are we gonna talk about the B105 G train shuttle bus route that will run the full length of the G line. Check my community tab for more on it
Do u made it up about B105?
@@arielgonzalez5296 no. Look on my community tab.
@mtainfo Why did you discontinue the R68/A's on the G line? It was more of a faster service than the NTT'S
ok black
Because the R68s aren’t CBTC compatible and the culver CBTC is going live currently.
Tf are you on?
Most smartest Rail Buff:
Can some line to bayside?
I'd like to ask the M & F train czar's where those trains are at, because they never seem to run. And if they do manage to show up it's every hour on the hour.
If it was every hour on the hour, Manhattan stations would be skipped South of W4 to Delancey to Jay St.
Close it until the work is completed.
how can i become the G train czar
THE FEDS NEED TO TAKE OVER THE MTA
Why the fed? They can't even get national rail (Amtrak) right. It should be NYC local controlled, not by the state.
@@Cain-x They need to Investigate all the books.
@@Futuristbillpicone They don't need to eminent domain the system to audit it. Heck, you don't even need the fed to audit them, the state has the power to do so.
0:11 R42?
Yes, it is use for garbage train.
Just extend the G to Forrest Hills
71st Avenue terminal doesn't have the capacity to support terminating G, M, and R trains on weekdays.
@@CLBT7437 then use jamaica 179 st and improve the jamaica ctr terminal switches to handle more trains
@@i_am_a_toast_of_french Use 179th Street for what? I'm almost completely sure that riders east of 71st Avenue don't want any QBL local at their stations
Improve Jamaica Center's switches? How do we do that?
@@CLBT7437 179th street has so much more capacity as a terminal and jamaica center switches should be closer to the platform so more qbl express can go through, another set of switches should be past the platform to allow the tail tracks to be used better for storage, also 71 st doesn't need fumigation if the train is going back into service in 2 minutes
e trains can go to jamaica ctr with 15 tph and f/m/r trains can go to 179 st with 30 tph (f express, m/r local on hillside)
@@i_am_a_toast_of_french You didn't pay attention to what I said, did you? Riders east of 71st Avenue don't want M or R service at their stations. The E and F are preferred.
Will the r160s come back to the N,Q and W lines during the shutdown
No G is still in service it not going to some stops and even though if it shuts down it will go the E M F and R trains
Just stay away from the G train this summer. It's that simple.
ok
Add 10 cars & I will forgive you.
czar? wtf
Bullshit because you guys always saying you guys upgrading something on the G line or any other line
MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA OK
Sorry, I couldn't quite catch that. Can you be more specific?
@@techadka Sorry Hear that sorry about that
I'm not surprised, I've been taking the G service almost every day for the past 6 years. It has always been messy service sometimes on weekdays, and it gets considerably worse, especially on weekend holidays. Don't try to make it look as if you are doing a service to those of us who use the G line daily. You are not! This specific thing you spoke about has already been happening with Shuttle busses for at least 2.5 - 3 years now. It's really suck that the MTA has been making a mockery of citizens tax dollars and still they would comes on here with more lies to it looks like they are helping.
Hilarious. This timeline is so unrealistic. Don't lie to your customers!!
average 40 year old
work will continue on nights and weekends for about two years. This timeline is to get some uninterrupted access since the summer has lower ridership.