While I agree in general, there was no innovation on this one other than the pen holder. How about 1440 instead of 1080? Or smooth diagonal lines. Or a 20" screen--not too big, not too small. ...This was a "me too" product.
For your line wobble test you could create a benchmark for all products reviewed matching against what many consider the best (wacom) *The test could go something like this:* Draw a line from point A to point B under fast, medium and slow conditions where fast is 1 sec, medium is 3 secs and slow is 5 secs. Then look at the wobbles produced. *Note:* The line length from A to B should be the same distance for added accuracy.
*PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING BUYING:* I've been using this tablet for about a year. At first I had no issues with it and highly recommended it for the crazy value, but today I'm trashing it. The biggest problem with Veikk is lack of support. Whenever I ran into software/hardware issues, I couldn't find any sort of solution online... Live chat is useless, their phone number doesn't work, and none of my emails to Veikk support were answered to this day. My pen began squeaking after the first month. They don't sell replacements, you have to buy the whole tablet again. I wore headphones to ignore it, but what really put the nail in the coffin is after I updated my Windows and Mac, the tablet pen started double-clicking with each stroke, then when I reinstalled the driver, the tablet stopped working on both devices. Lines come out wonky in Clip studio paint and Krita. Paint Tool Sai is unusable because the pen treats a tap as a double click. They still haven't released a new driver to fix the issue. I sent another email but I highly doubt they'll answer. It's a real shame because I love everything about this tablet, but it's now unusable and finding help is nearly impossible. I'm using an older Cintiq model as a temporary replacement but I'm moving on to more reliable brands like XP Pen to prevent future stress like this from happening again
Hi Brad, Love the review and the video. The drawings and the shots are awesome and the animations too (more please!). But may I ask you to lower the music please? :D It's a bit distracting. Not the sound effect though (like the bird sound) that is cool. But just the music. Even without music it's perfect. Otherwise keep the excellent work! You are my go to artist that I watch on youtube. Have a great day! P.S: sorry if my english is wrong. It is not my native language :S :D
I started watching your videos a few weeks ago and while I'm not actively looking for a new tablet, it is nice to see reviews like yours. A somewhat curious side-effect is, that I'm beginning to think that a lot of the problems I noticed in my own drawings aren't due to me messing up they're actually technical problems of the devices. Never thought that would be the case, but I see those jittery lines and I just know: THIS bugs me! Why is this happening! Maybe I'll be able to replace my old Cintiq at one point and your reviews will be helpful, so thank you for taking your time to make these videos.
Amazing review. But lol, I can't live without the two pen buttons, so, more than a con, having those as this one has, is a total PRO (ctrl+z or the like and ALT for color pick are so great for a fast workflow). In Wacom driver at least, u can set the button as "disabled", so, no harm... Hearing your comment about jitter, here's my take : First of all, *THANK YOU* , for including the stabilizer test. I've been crying for it in every channel for a while, lol..... And about your comment... ehm....yep, that's true....BUT....mostly in PS. If you check that in Clip Studio Paint (one time purchase, no subscription, heavily focused in comic and illustration, freaking amazing, as you very well know. No idea why don't more ppl use it, is crazy) there the lag is WAY minor compared to PS (and not only in that matter... performance-wise, with a huge canvas, and crazy number of layers, it beats PS down badly. Not a PS hater by any mean! (dislike the "purchase" method, with a passion, tho). And man, am I a fan of PS, aaall my jobs, I got'em mostly thanks to my PS skills through so many companies and years.... So, there you have it. Is way less of a concern when used on Krita, or, very specially Clip Studio ( way better in performance than Krita, too. And than practically anything). Other than that... if you were getting, the lines' lag, with only 10 smoothing ( I tested the CC 2018 trial very intensively, and configured it deeply for best performance, crazy level of it, too) , and getting that lag...something is off. Might be the machine is quite under-powered (could be) , as mine is ultra old from almost 10 years, tho was a middle-high machine in its day. OR, maybe likely, is not everything configured to crazy performance (is a crazy digging in several system matters, I''ve heard of few people attacking all those fronts, to that level, with these issues. With older PSs, it was not needed. But CCs eat the hardware. Indeed, happens kind of since CS 6, then that did grow exponentially in the CC). I dunno Mac world, so, can't make assumptions there, but in Windows, I frikin' know the deal, and how a decent modern machine, in live tests, does perform worse than mine no matter what in the painting department, just because of very careful digging for performance in the OS and other matters. (and very careful fine tuned PS prefs. Never ever defaults). What I mean: well configured, PS "10" level of smoothing, should not lag, should be comfortable, and from what I have seen in all these videos, you don't have an style of crazy lines speed, but pretty standard speed ( a bit above the average in some moments), so, should not be experiencing that lag... That said... is indeed great if you have there some issue in the hardware, hehe, as then is a tough test for any tablet, and not the usual thing other reviewers do, setting all in a super shiny high end machine noone has, and of course, once the average person purchases whatever the tablet, experiences struggles that were not observed in the reviewer's experience (yeah, so, is better so....) Sorry if am telling you this, but I think it is important to remark that with 10 of smoothing in PS CC 2018, it should be a fresh inking experience.... Anyway, again, if that same tablet , in you own hardware, does not have that lag in CSP or Krita (probably in Krita it will have it) , then there you have it, problem solved. Just people with average machines, IMO, should not use PS ( or, be prepared to fine tune their machine even using a full day for that! If having the know-how for it (rarely)) . Should not anyway due to the pricing model/forced subscription, anyway, but that'd be way much of my own personal opinion, lol.
It seems like they mashed together the Artisul D16 and the Xp Pen tablets! I'm assuming they made a deal with UC-Logic (manufacturer of pen displays for other companies and parent company of Artisul), or were heavily inspired by them.
I am torn between this, the GT 191 V2 and Xp Pen 15.6 pro. Seems like the XP Pen display is laminated and generally looks to be within this new generation as sRGB/Adobe color goes. I will be taking mine on the road a lot. Any suggestions on these three as build quality goes?
@@RiccardoPearlman I Have a GT 191 V2, colors are very Washed out, and the pen on the edge of the device sometimes loses its precision, but since you draw mainly in the middle of the screen, that is not that big of a problem. Now i am interested in the XP PEN 15.6 because of the colors, laminated and precision that might all be a better improvement in exchange of the screen size. :)
Hey Brad, I love your tablet reviews! As a budget techie I always look out for tech reviews often. I had a question though, I noticed you review pen tablet monitors but what is your computer setup? I've heard a lot of people making budget pen tablets work more responsively with less lag and parallax because they have stronger computers. Have you tried testing parallax and lag on a stronger workstation? Thanks
Great video Brad! In regards to pen jitter, it's a baffling argument to be made; I shouldn't have to use stroke smoothing to fix the shortcomings of hardware, especially when the core function of that hardware is intent on representing a quality line, bridging traditional and digital work as one cohesive whole. Fiddling with software and just "living with it" should never be the right answer. If you are spending 300 dollars on a screen tablet, that core functionality should be rock solid. I don't particularly have a need for things like Bluetooth, tilt, and touch; Those are totally optional in my mind. But there is something inherently aggravating about living with a really strange (and widespread) issue that exists across many on-screen tablets. I can live with some slight parallax, but wobbly, imprecise lines impact the quality of my art, and as a result, my end product suffers. It's the equivalent of buying a (slightly) cheaper mouse that decides to dart around the screen and make things impossible to highlight or click with any degree of confidence. No one would put up with that. I tend to draw with a rather slow stroke, and I had two iterations of the Surface Pro tablets that had the same exact issue, and my art ended up looking more like fanart for Ed, Edd, and Eddy than anything even remotely resembling my own style. And so the question I ask when I see a tablet like this is: Who is this for? you can't draw overly fast and get some quick gestural lines down because of the crazy parallax, and you can't do much precise inking and coloring because of the obnoxious pen jitter. The only positive thing I can say is that I am happy that screen tablets are getting cheaper and cheaper, but people have to be careful. It reminds me of your review of the pixel slate, where it became immediately apparent that the thing was sort of marketed towards creatives, but drawing is not a strong suit, and the options given were super limited, and massive concessions had to be made for the drawing experience to be anything close to adequate. It's weird to me that in (almost) 2019, we are still having issues with pens on displays. Microsoft has promised over and over again to fix these nagging issues. In fact, I believe it was your video of the surface pro 3 that alerted me to this issue in the first place. I thought I had gotten a defective one. Hopefully, things change, and things get better. And while I am a huge windows guy, I look at something like how the apple pencil works and see them put out a nearly flawless first gen product on their first go. As of now, I am looking at the LG Gram 2-in-1 that has a Wacom digitizer that was seen online recently. We will have to wait and see. Keep up the good work! love your videos!
Btw even wacom pen displays have Jitter. And this Jitter shouldnt be a problem while ur inking sth. U can fix the Jitter if u draw in an other wise. Zoom in and Zoom out, like u should do and the problem is away. Sry my english isnt my best language i hope u can understand what i wanted 2 say 2 you.
All of these wonderful alternative tablet displays with amazing affordable price and hardly any of them are crafted for left handed peeps. But I always enjoy your videos to get a good idea it's quality before buying, so far you've come across pretty good ones!
Wow, i love your reviews man, last week friday i bought the artist 12 and it was the exact what i expected because of your video, thanks for all the infos man, keep up the work💪😁
Objection, you honor! Huion has this for their smaller drawing-monitors (sadly not for their 20 inch, despite the fact that that thing released after the smaller ones...I'd really like to know what went wrong there!)
Hi Brad, thanks a lot for this review. It's clear and done very well; congratulations for your drawings, so smart! I'm considering buying this Veikk tablet, so I'd have a couple of questions for you. First : does the fact of the parallaxe consists in a problem when you draw? ...I mean about precision; is that a bug you can fix or you just have to get used to it? Second : are the short-keys on the left of the display touch-sensitive or pressure? Many thanks in advance for your answer. Bye, Luca
When you plug the HDMI cord from the computer into the tablet all audio from the computer is silent. Is there anyway to use this tablet with the HDMI cable in that still preserves the audio of the computer? Thanks
"It's really nice to have a dedicated place to put it (the pen)." For me that place looks remarkably like a shot glass on my desk. Now, is it just me or do the shortcut keys look exactly like the ones on my Artisul D16?
i have heard that xp pen has low initial activation threshold just as good as wacom, but it doesn't have a bonded display. Huion on the other hand has bonded display but initial activation force is even higher than that of Ntrig/Surface crap. So, in short Wacom has its cozy niche cut out, and it's gonna stay there for a long time to come. I have not seen ipad pro event yet, i am hoping that they make ipad pro a real pen display for Mac. What Astropad does utilizes too much resources on the ipad pro side, what i want is direct hardware connection like the one that wacom makes with a pc or mac.
I think if you're gonna test jitter using a ruler, you should draw the line with the tip of the pen right up against the ruler. Every time I see someone use a ruler to test jitter in their videos, there's a gap between the tip of the pen and the ruler, which could lead to human jitter in the lines.
I like that advice. Another thing worth mentioning. I use a wooden ruler because sometimes metal throws off magnets but the wooden ruler isn't 100% straight like the metal ones. So I think I'll always get some bumpyness so a lot of these test are trying put onto video a gut feel I have after testing dozens of these things.
@@thebradcolbow It's easily seen when the 'ink' is going for their own free-style dancing on its own, and how there's no bump in the wood right there, and the tip had no twist or whatsoever (even if does in other moments). There's where you totally catch the hardware's shameful fault...Not gonna explain, but there are ways to download the video and check it zoomed-in crazily so there's little doubt left....
It’s always weird for me how people can lost such expensive pencils for graphic tablets. Especially wacom ones. They are so expensive. I always have mine in one place .
i have a old surface pro 3 and a pc with a huion screen they both run clip/manga studio and z brush fine ( well z brush is a bit laggy but that's more down to them being low end i3 sp3 and low cpu and ram pc rather than any problem with the screen ) don't know about Toonboom never used it , but sai etc work fine ... hope this helps
they work just fine. Paint tool sai is the only app that doesnt immediately work because it's super old and nobody bothered to update it (it works, but you have to tweek some display settings).
Hey I need help, I got this tablet but for some reason it doesn't work on Photoshop, when I try to use options (like new layer, pen, eraser etc etc) it doesn't click and it freezes and I have to use a mouse to click it, and when this happens sometimes it stops drawing and I have to tap twice to draw, it's very frustrating, can anyone help?
Veikk or XP Pen? I was going to buy the $350 XP Pen tablet and since the Veikk is just under 300 with the $50 off, I thought it was a good comparison. I think I'm leaning towards XP Pen a bit more just because the company is pushing more of their products out on the market.
I'd go for XP pen as there are more reviews for that and it also has more recognition thus service might be a tad bit better but Brad's review topped so many others I'm somewhat persuaded by Veikk. Huion is also a suggestion. :)
Can the tablet be flipped or is the stand solid? If latter, that's automatic not-going-to-even-consider-buying-it for lefties like me. I also felt that this review didn't spend much time on the product especially considering it's (to me at least) an unknown name on the growing tablet market. I don't know if such a video already exists but I wish you made a video to explain drawing tablets and screens for beginners, their differences and what to look out for when buying one especially parallax and jitter tests and reasons why you do them, I'd link to everyone when I'm asked about buying advice.
I picked one of these up today, and had an absolute nightmare with the drivers. (Using Clip Studio Paint and Windows 10) The fact that the only one they had was 1.0.0 suggests they’re not upgrading them. I’m not sure if it was Windows 10, CSP or the nVidia drivers making them have a tantrum but I ended up not bothering and just going with plug in and play which worked fine, and with excellent pressure sensitivity and accurate calibration. Also, for it to work properly, I found I needed to have it on Extend Display instead of Duplicate (I can’t do duplicate because my other one is 4K) with duplicate I found I had to set my Veikk as the main display otherwise it started acting like a screenless tablet. Anyone else have these issues too?
An unrelated question: Is a monthly subscription the only way to be in the Adobe sphere now-a-days? I ask this because I like the apps available for iPad Pro for drawing / comic sketching, etc. Are there other equally cool apps for Windows devices like the Surface? Thanks for the informative videos!
Switch to Clip Studio paint [ best tool *for what you need* of all what I am recommending below, keep this in mind! In the desktop. And in the iPad, surely Artstudio Pro (
@@3polygons -- hahahahahaha... Dang! Thanks for the information! I'm not doing any pro stuff, just hobby and in a few months I have this urge to make some dopey and low quality animation. Kind of a wide variety of interests and not focused on any one thing. So thanks again for the suggestions! Cheers!
@@DustyCowdog You're welcome ! :) ( Krita (free digital painting application for win/mac) has a full module embedded for animation, btw. Is quite complete. Other than that, you have the also free Synfig. On top of that, you can use Davinci Resolve for video editing and composting, surely the Davinci free version is more than enough. You might be tho set up with just Krita and /or Synfig. :) :) )
Have a question.Which one of those you have reviewed so far had best refresh rate? When it comes to fast drawing, sketching etc. this is a must for me and so far i noticed that ipad pro is working really well. Do you have a ranking for that ?
Well, after watching most of his pen display reviews i decided to buy the Artisul d16. It arrived today and I was just about to open it when I decided to check TH-cam before that, and well... i just hope I made the right decision since I didn't know this tablet existed o.o
I own a Artisul d16 and to be honest, the jittery lines that he showed on this video were WAY WORST from what I get with Artisul. VK have a better price no doubt, but the quality I'm getting from my d16 looks far superior when compared to the lines he showed here with the VK. Enjoy your tablet man! (or girl)
I just got mine today and am having issues with pressure sensitivty in Photoshop! I've installed the driver several times and restarted my machine several times also. It works fine in Clip Studio but no good in Photoshop. Anyone else have this issue?
@@namazuume No, itd look the same. He could hitteraly just add a few lines to what he has to switch the legs cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/320309429746794520/506740807274070029/1540886788519.png
I have to wonder, do these alternative brands share the same engineers/plans or something? Most of the tablet designs look so similar to each other. XD
Rosiea if you want something that’s stationary at home, maybe this would be the best for a workspace. However if you want to draw anywhere with mobility, then maybe you’d want to go for the iPad. Photoshop is coming to iPad next year so you won’t be missing out on that. But if you’re using zbrush or toonboom- heavier programs then you might want to go for the tablet in the video!
snoozy A113 I already have a wacom intuos that I use on my pc, so one of these tablets would replace that. But I think going with the ipad is probably the better option since the wacom can be used on my desktop. Thanks for your advice!
Rosiea Well that’s good! Then I would definitely go with the iPad since you’re already covered for computer. Wait until tomorrow to see what Apple has upgraded with their new announcement for iPads though! They’re making new ones so if you want something that’s better then it’s worth waiting for when they’re released.
Absolutely get the ipad pro, fantastic device, you can draw in bed and on the couch with it! I would recommend the 13 inch model if you want it mainly for drawing.
Rosiea hi this is Sara from VEIKK,if you want to buy it please let me know and I will send you a coupon for the Hallowmas Gift and to thanks for your support.
graphic tablet there are tablets where lefties can't use the shortcut keys as effectively is what I mean. Specific tablets that interest me have had stationary stands that can't be rotated for lefties.
It’s amazing how brad rolls out quality content at such a consistent rate
Thats_ Clapped_Comics i know right!
Competition breeds Innovation!! heck yeah!! Absolutely love that more companies are working on these types of tablets!!
You said it:)
While I agree in general, there was no innovation on this one other than the pen holder. How about 1440 instead of 1080? Or smooth diagonal lines. Or a 20" screen--not too big, not too small. ...This was a "me too" product.
For your line wobble test you could create a benchmark for all products reviewed matching against what many consider the best (wacom)
*The test could go something like this:*
Draw a line from point A to point B under fast, medium and slow conditions where fast is 1 sec, medium is 3 secs and slow is 5 secs. Then look at the wobbles produced.
*Note:* The line length from A to B should be the same distance for added accuracy.
Maaaan... Wacom alternatives are getting better and better nowadays. Keep 'em coming!
*PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING BUYING:* I've been using this tablet for about a year. At first I had no issues with it and highly recommended it for the crazy value, but today I'm trashing it. The biggest problem with Veikk is lack of support. Whenever I ran into software/hardware issues, I couldn't find any sort of solution online...
Live chat is useless, their phone number doesn't work, and none of my emails to Veikk support were answered to this day. My pen began squeaking after the first month. They don't sell replacements, you have to buy the whole tablet again. I wore headphones to ignore it, but what really put the nail in the coffin is after I updated my Windows and Mac, the tablet pen started double-clicking with each stroke, then when I reinstalled the driver, the tablet stopped working on both devices.
Lines come out wonky in Clip studio paint and Krita. Paint Tool Sai is unusable because the pen treats a tap as a double click. They still haven't released a new driver to fix the issue. I sent another email but I highly doubt they'll answer. It's a real shame because I love everything about this tablet, but it's now unusable and finding help is nearly impossible. I'm using an older Cintiq model as a temporary replacement but I'm moving on to more reliable brands like XP Pen to prevent future stress like this from happening again
The quality of your reviews had improved tremendously compared to last year. Those animation bits add a lot of charm to the videos.
Hi Brad,
Love the review and the video. The drawings and the shots are awesome and the animations too (more please!). But may I ask you to lower the music please? :D It's a bit distracting. Not the sound effect though (like the bird sound) that is cool. But just the music. Even without music it's perfect.
Otherwise keep the excellent work! You are my go to artist that I watch on youtube.
Have a great day!
P.S: sorry if my english is wrong. It is not my native language :S :D
I prefer no music at all, or at least very very low. Next video we need one of those nightcore songs or electro sounds they put in every art video lol
Laura Muller I didn't notice that there was music until I saw your comment lol
Love that animated bit in the middle
Brad should definitely have a Blue's Clues-style letter/question segment in every video.
Every video you make gets more and more impressive with the quality! Nice work, Brad!
ABSOLUTELY LOVE MINE!!! THANKS TO THIS VIDEO!!! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK YOU!!!!
Still works well? I'm checking different options and Veikk is quite cheaper than XP-Pen and Huion.
I started watching your videos a few weeks ago and while I'm not actively looking for a new tablet, it is nice to see reviews like yours. A somewhat curious side-effect is, that I'm beginning to think that a lot of the problems I noticed in my own drawings aren't due to me messing up they're actually technical problems of the devices. Never thought that would be the case, but I see those jittery lines and I just know: THIS bugs me! Why is this happening!
Maybe I'll be able to replace my old Cintiq at one point and your reviews will be helpful, so thank you for taking your time to make these videos.
Amazing review. But lol, I can't live without the two pen buttons, so, more than a con, having those as this one has, is a total PRO (ctrl+z or the like and ALT for color pick are so great for a fast workflow). In Wacom driver at least, u can set the button as "disabled", so, no harm...
Hearing your comment about jitter, here's my take : First of all, *THANK YOU* , for including the stabilizer test. I've been crying for it in every channel for a while, lol..... And about your comment... ehm....yep, that's true....BUT....mostly in PS. If you check that in Clip Studio Paint (one time purchase, no subscription, heavily focused in comic and illustration, freaking amazing, as you very well know. No idea why don't more ppl use it, is crazy) there the lag is WAY minor compared to PS (and not only in that matter... performance-wise, with a huge canvas, and crazy number of layers, it beats PS down badly. Not a PS hater by any mean! (dislike the "purchase" method, with a passion, tho).
And man, am I a fan of PS, aaall my jobs, I got'em mostly thanks to my PS skills through so many companies and years.... So, there you have it. Is way less of a concern when used on Krita, or, very specially Clip Studio ( way better in performance than Krita, too. And than practically anything). Other than that... if you were getting, the lines' lag, with only 10 smoothing ( I tested the CC 2018 trial very intensively, and configured it deeply for best performance, crazy level of it, too) , and getting that lag...something is off. Might be the machine is quite under-powered (could be) , as mine is ultra old from almost 10 years, tho was a middle-high machine in its day. OR, maybe likely, is not everything configured to crazy performance (is a crazy digging in several system matters, I''ve heard of few people attacking all those fronts, to that level, with these issues. With older PSs, it was not needed. But CCs eat the hardware. Indeed, happens kind of since CS 6, then that did grow exponentially in the CC).
I dunno Mac world, so, can't make assumptions there, but in Windows, I frikin' know the deal, and how a decent modern machine, in live tests, does perform worse than mine no matter what in the painting department, just because of very careful digging for performance in the OS and other matters. (and very careful fine tuned PS prefs. Never ever defaults). What I mean: well configured, PS "10" level of smoothing, should not lag, should be comfortable, and from what I have seen in all these videos, you don't have an style of crazy lines speed, but pretty standard speed ( a bit above the average in some moments), so, should not be experiencing that lag...
That said... is indeed great if you have there some issue in the hardware, hehe, as then is a tough test for any tablet, and not the usual thing other reviewers do, setting all in a super shiny high end machine noone has, and of course, once the average person purchases whatever the tablet, experiences struggles that were not observed in the reviewer's experience (yeah, so, is better so....) Sorry if am telling you this, but I think it is important to remark that with 10 of smoothing in PS CC 2018, it should be a fresh inking experience.... Anyway, again, if that same tablet , in you own hardware, does not have that lag in CSP or Krita (probably in Krita it will have it) , then there you have it, problem solved. Just people with average machines, IMO, should not use PS ( or, be prepared to fine tune their machine even using a full day for that! If having the know-how for it (rarely)) . Should not anyway due to the pricing model/forced subscription, anyway, but that'd be way much of my own personal opinion, lol.
For those who do digital painting and concept art, I don't think some line jitter would matter at all... The tablet looks great for such price!
A bunch of us do that, plus comic inking, and line art based illustration..... * sigh * .
It seems like they mashed together the Artisul D16 and the Xp Pen tablets! I'm assuming they made a deal with UC-Logic (manufacturer of pen displays for other companies and parent company of Artisul), or were heavily inspired by them.
Brad please ( HUION GT 191 V2 ) No one has reviewed it
it's pretty much the same, the pen just doesnt need to be charged. The newer pen might not work on the older display though.
I am torn between this, the GT 191 V2 and Xp Pen 15.6 pro. Seems like the XP Pen display is laminated and generally looks to be within this new generation as sRGB/Adobe color goes. I will be taking mine on the road a lot. Any suggestions on these three as build quality goes?
@@RiccardoPearlman I Have a GT 191 V2, colors are very Washed out, and the pen on the edge of the device sometimes loses its precision, but since you draw mainly in the middle of the screen, that is not that big of a problem. Now i am interested in the XP PEN 15.6 because of the colors, laminated and precision that might all be a better improvement in exchange of the screen size. :)
The feature that I like is that it has the wheel. I hope the other monitor companies also implement those in their 15.6 monitors.
Hey Brad, I love your tablet reviews! As a budget techie I always look out for tech reviews often. I had a question though, I noticed you review pen tablet monitors but what is your computer setup? I've heard a lot of people making budget pen tablets work more responsively with less lag and parallax because they have stronger computers. Have you tried testing parallax and lag on a stronger workstation? Thanks
The Best, accurate and funny reviews channel. I'm in, thanks for the videos.
Great video Brad!
In regards to pen jitter, it's a baffling argument to be made; I shouldn't have to use stroke smoothing to fix the shortcomings of hardware, especially when the core function of that hardware is intent on representing a quality line, bridging traditional and digital work as one cohesive whole. Fiddling with software and just "living with it" should never be the right answer. If you are spending 300 dollars on a screen tablet, that core functionality should be rock solid. I don't particularly have a need for things like Bluetooth, tilt, and touch; Those are totally optional in my mind. But there is something inherently aggravating about living with a really strange (and widespread) issue that exists across many on-screen tablets. I can live with some slight parallax, but wobbly, imprecise lines impact the quality of my art, and as a result, my end product suffers.
It's the equivalent of buying a (slightly) cheaper mouse that decides to dart around the screen and make things impossible to highlight or click with any degree of confidence. No one would put up with that. I tend to draw with a rather slow stroke, and I had two iterations of the Surface Pro tablets that had the same exact issue, and my art ended up looking more like fanart for Ed, Edd, and Eddy than anything even remotely resembling my own style.
And so the question I ask when I see a tablet like this is: Who is this for? you can't draw overly fast and get some quick gestural lines down because of the crazy parallax, and you can't do much precise inking and coloring because of the obnoxious pen jitter. The only positive thing I can say is that I am happy that screen tablets are getting cheaper and cheaper, but people have to be careful.
It reminds me of your review of the pixel slate, where it became immediately apparent that the thing was sort of marketed towards creatives, but drawing is not a strong suit, and the options given were super limited, and massive concessions had to be made for the drawing experience to be anything close to adequate.
It's weird to me that in (almost) 2019, we are still having issues with pens on displays. Microsoft has promised over and over again to fix these nagging issues. In fact, I believe it was your video of the surface pro 3 that alerted me to this issue in the first place. I thought I had gotten a defective one. Hopefully, things change, and things get better. And while I am a huge windows guy, I look at something like how the apple pencil works and see them put out a nearly flawless first gen product on their first go.
As of now, I am looking at the LG Gram 2-in-1 that has a Wacom digitizer that was seen online recently. We will have to wait and see.
Keep up the good work! love your videos!
Btw even wacom pen displays have Jitter. And this Jitter shouldnt be a problem while ur inking sth. U can fix the Jitter if u draw in an other wise. Zoom in and Zoom out, like u should do and the problem is away.
Sry my english isnt my best language i hope u can understand what i wanted 2 say 2 you.
All of these wonderful alternative tablet displays with amazing affordable price and hardly any of them are crafted for left handed peeps.
But I always enjoy your videos to get a good idea it's quality before buying, so far you've come across pretty good ones!
Wow, i love your reviews man, last week friday i bought the artist 12 and it was the exact what i expected because of your video, thanks for all the infos man, keep up the work💪😁
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Objection, you honor! Huion has this for their smaller drawing-monitors (sadly not for their 20 inch, despite the fact that that thing released after the smaller ones...I'd really like to know what went wrong there!)
Thank Brad. Great review as always. Love the Mr.Rodgers look you have going on.
Hi Brad, could you mention touch capable stats in future reviews?
Love your vids!
Hi Brad, thanks a lot for this review. It's clear and done very well; congratulations for your drawings, so smart! I'm considering buying this Veikk tablet, so I'd have a couple of questions for you.
First : does the fact of the parallaxe consists in a problem when you draw? ...I mean about precision; is that a bug you can fix or you just have to get used to it?
Second : are the short-keys on the left of the display touch-sensitive or pressure?
Many thanks in advance for your answer.
Bye, Luca
When you plug the HDMI cord from the computer into the tablet all audio from the computer is silent. Is there anyway to use this tablet with the HDMI cable in that still preserves the audio of the computer? Thanks
Thanks for the review! Love the drawing, too!
Loved the video, but I’m a bit scared of the parallax.
What screen tablet would you say has the best color with least parallax?
//that isn’t Wacom aha
I heard about Veikk only recently. Curious to see how they shape up as a company :D Nice review as always :D
what do you think which is better: Veikk vk1560 or xp-pen artist 15.6 Pro?
Hey Brad the new iPad is out!
Wacom disliked this LOL
:D
How can you tell. I am not new to TH-cam but I don’t know how
Rogue Panda he’s joking
Rogue Panda he said LOL
Love the stroke straightener test
P.s. did you ever do a cintiq pro review ?
Not yet, But I might have one headed my way as I type this :D
For the end of this year can you do another top 10 Wacom alternatives???
Better : A top "less jitter, battery free ones"....With a jitter ranking :D :D
"It's really nice to have a dedicated place to put it (the pen)." For me that place looks remarkably like a shot glass on my desk. Now, is it just me or do the shortcut keys look exactly like the ones on my Artisul D16?
Could you please review Veikk VK1200?
Thank you
Nice, fair review! I like your idea for hope to quantify line shakiness, seems fair
That in-built pen holder! I keep losing my Wacom pen, and it's great that other companies are taking those little QOL stuff into consideration.
Quality of Life :)
You should review the sim bans Picasso tab also i love your videos
how about comparing with the huion product? which one the best ?
Brad: "IS THAT THE QUESTION PARROT?"
Me: No, that's a hawk.
i have heard that xp pen has low initial activation threshold just as good as wacom, but it doesn't have a bonded display. Huion on the other hand has bonded display but initial activation force is even higher than that of Ntrig/Surface crap. So, in short Wacom has its cozy niche cut out, and it's gonna stay there for a long time to come. I have not seen ipad pro event yet, i am hoping that they make ipad pro a real pen display for Mac. What Astropad does utilizes too much resources on the ipad pro side, what i want is direct hardware connection like the one that wacom makes with a pc or mac.
Witch do you prefer?
The gaomon pd1560 or this tablet
Amazing review as always! Could you review the Veikk 1560 Pro? It's the one without the holder. Thanks for the amazing content!
Yes please. The pen holder is just a tsk tsk for me. Bad for lefties even if I'm not one.
@@Lilyium better than nothing !
Nice review you.
I think if you're gonna test jitter using a ruler, you should draw the line with the tip of the pen right up against the ruler. Every time I see someone use a ruler to test jitter in their videos, there's a gap between the tip of the pen and the ruler, which could lead to human jitter in the lines.
I like that advice.
Another thing worth mentioning. I use a wooden ruler because sometimes metal throws off magnets but the wooden ruler isn't 100% straight like the metal ones. So I think I'll always get some bumpyness so a lot of these test are trying put onto video a gut feel I have after testing dozens of these things.
@@thebradcolbow It's easily seen when the 'ink' is going for their own free-style dancing on its own, and how there's no bump in the wood right there, and the tip had no twist or whatsoever (even if does in other moments). There's where you totally catch the hardware's shameful fault...Not gonna explain, but there are ways to download the video and check it zoomed-in crazily so there's little doubt left....
It’s always weird for me how people can lost such expensive pencils for graphic tablets. Especially wacom ones. They are so expensive. I always have mine in one place .
I have a veikk a30 and really want the vk1560
Ah I REALLY like these Non wacom s but the only thing stopping me from buying these is not knowing how they work with apps like Toonboom and Zbrush
i have a old surface pro 3 and a pc with a huion screen they both run clip/manga studio and z brush fine ( well z brush is a bit laggy but that's more down to them being low end i3 sp3
and low cpu and ram pc rather than any problem with the screen ) don't know about Toonboom never used it , but sai etc work fine ... hope this helps
They basically work the same as a wacom tablet with those programs apart from the lack of touch (depending on the tablet of course).
I use my Huion with Zbrush, works like a charm.
My XP-Pen works with Toon Boom ☺️
they work just fine.
Paint tool sai is the only app that doesnt immediately work because it's super old and nobody bothered to update it (it works, but you have to tweek some display settings).
Hey brad, would you prefer the CTL 4600 WL or Wacom Intuos Draw? Im planning on using it for Osu a rhythm game and drawing
hi Brad, is any pen display 15.6" you has review can be turned upside down so it can more ergonomic (especially the hotkey) for left-hand user?
I have a veikk tablet and it’s pretty good
Does it work w medibang?
Hey I need help, I got this tablet but for some reason it doesn't work on Photoshop, when I try to use options (like new layer, pen, eraser etc etc) it doesn't click and it freezes and I have to use a mouse to click it, and when this happens sometimes it stops drawing and I have to tap twice to draw, it's very frustrating, can anyone help?
Is a review for Samsung Galaxy Book coming or u'll wait for the next gen of that device?
Bro, I was literally just looking at this on Amazon and I see this, are you reading my mind, Brad?
Google is
Is the button location only for right handed people?
For both left handed and right handed, don't worry.
Honestly in the closeup shot the parallax doesn’t look as bad as something you see with Huion or others
Nice review Brad
Veikk or XP Pen? I was going to buy the $350 XP Pen tablet and since the Veikk is just under 300 with the $50 off, I thought it was a good comparison. I think I'm leaning towards XP Pen a bit more just because the company is pushing more of their products out on the market.
I'd go for XP pen as there are more reviews for that and it also has more recognition thus service might be a tad bit better but Brad's review topped so many others I'm somewhat persuaded by Veikk. Huion is also a suggestion. :)
@@Lilyium So many good options! I'm honestly in no rush, I can hold off for a year haha. Maybe some other new tablets will be out by then.
Can the tablet be flipped or is the stand solid? If latter, that's automatic not-going-to-even-consider-buying-it for lefties like me.
I also felt that this review didn't spend much time on the product especially considering it's (to me at least) an unknown name on the growing tablet market.
I don't know if such a video already exists but I wish you made a video to explain drawing tablets and screens for beginners, their differences and what to look out for when buying one especially parallax and jitter tests and reasons why you do them, I'd link to everyone when I'm asked about buying advice.
I dont think the tablet can be rotated for left handed users. It’s very uncomfortable for me to have the shortcuts buttons on the left side
I picked one of these up today, and had an absolute nightmare with the drivers. (Using Clip Studio Paint and Windows 10) The fact that the only one they had was 1.0.0 suggests they’re not upgrading them. I’m not sure if it was Windows 10, CSP or the nVidia drivers making them have a tantrum but I ended up not bothering and just going with plug in and play which worked fine, and with excellent pressure sensitivity and accurate calibration.
Also, for it to work properly, I found I needed to have it on Extend Display instead of Duplicate (I can’t do duplicate because my other one is 4K) with duplicate I found I had to set my Veikk as the main display otherwise it started acting like a screenless tablet.
Anyone else have these issues too?
I think there should be a bit of gitter sometimes too sterile is bad.
An unrelated question: Is a monthly subscription the only way to be in the Adobe sphere now-a-days? I ask this because I like the apps available for iPad Pro for drawing / comic sketching, etc. Are there other equally cool apps for Windows devices like the Surface? Thanks for the informative videos!
Switch to Clip Studio paint [ best tool *for what you need* of all what I am recommending below, keep this in mind! In the desktop. And in the iPad, surely Artstudio Pro (
@@3polygons -- hahahahahaha... Dang! Thanks for the information! I'm not doing any pro stuff, just hobby and in a few months I have this urge to make some dopey and low quality animation. Kind of a wide variety of interests and not focused on any one thing. So thanks again for the suggestions! Cheers!
@@DustyCowdog You're welcome ! :) ( Krita (free digital painting application for win/mac) has a full module embedded for animation, btw. Is quite complete. Other than that, you have the also free Synfig. On top of that, you can use Davinci Resolve for video editing and composting, surely the Davinci free version is more than enough. You might be tho set up with just Krita and /or Synfig. :) :) )
@@3polygons -- I really appreciate the info. It gets crazy trying to sift through all the mire... Have a good one!
Can it be used WITHOUT the computer? Meaning it has a drawing app on it?
No, it's just a monitor, not a tablet; so you need to connect it to a computer to use any software.
Thanks for sharing this! Great information.
Have a question.Which one of those you have reviewed so far had best refresh rate? When it comes to fast drawing, sketching etc. this is a must for me and so far i noticed that ipad pro is working really well. Do you have a ranking for that ?
Refresh rate on my iPad Pro (2017) is excellent. No lag at all using Procreate and other drawing apps.
Well, after watching most of his pen display reviews i decided to buy the Artisul d16. It arrived today and I was just about to open it when I decided to check TH-cam before that, and well... i just hope I made the right decision since I didn't know this tablet existed o.o
I own a Artisul d16 and to be honest, the jittery lines that he showed on this video were WAY WORST from what I get with Artisul. VK have a better price no doubt, but the quality I'm getting from my d16 looks far superior when compared to the lines he showed here with the VK. Enjoy your tablet man! (or girl)
Identical to the Kenting K16 by the looks of it.
I just got mine today and am having issues with pressure sensitivty in Photoshop! I've installed the driver several times and restarted my machine several times also. It works fine in Clip Studio but no good in Photoshop. Anyone else have this issue?
There's one out there with pen and touch screen I'd like to see review of - the "Bosto BT-16HDT". Any experience with this model?
Idk who you know that runs with right leg right arm forward but people usually run with left arm forward, right leg forward.
@@namazuume thats why he could uust switch the legs mate, think haha
@@namazuume No, itd look the same. He could hitteraly just add a few lines to what he has to switch the legs
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I have to wonder, do these alternative brands share the same engineers/plans or something? Most of the tablet designs look so similar to each other. XD
Will you be reviewing the new huion kamvas pro 20?
Thanks again always informative 👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
which screen is better?
veikk VK1560 vs gaomon pd1560
That pen holder is just like the negative side of a magnet to repel lefties.
Anyone know if this works with substance painter? I know that Huion and X-pen have driver issues and my Huion is useless with substance.
awesome hulk cut away animaiton!
SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN THE NEW IPAD PRO
Hey, was there tilt and rotation support for the pen?
Nope, there isn't. The only budget tablets that I know that do this are the new Huion's that are just coming out.
I’m still debating if i should get one of these display tablets or an ipad pro. Any suggestions?
Rosiea if you want something that’s stationary at home, maybe this would be the best for a workspace. However if you want to draw anywhere with mobility, then maybe you’d want to go for the iPad. Photoshop is coming to iPad next year so you won’t be missing out on that. But if you’re using zbrush or toonboom- heavier programs then you might want to go for the tablet in the video!
snoozy A113 I already have a wacom intuos that I use on my pc, so one of these tablets would replace that. But I think going with the ipad is probably the better option since the wacom can be used on my desktop. Thanks for your advice!
Rosiea Well that’s good! Then I would definitely go with the iPad since you’re already covered for computer. Wait until tomorrow to see what Apple has upgraded with their new announcement for iPads though! They’re making new ones so if you want something that’s better then it’s worth waiting for when they’re released.
Absolutely get the ipad pro, fantastic device, you can draw in bed and on the couch with it! I would recommend the 13 inch model if you want it mainly for drawing.
Rosiea hi this is Sara from VEIKK,if you want to buy it please let me know and I will send you a coupon for the Hallowmas Gift and to thanks for your support.
Brad, will you be reviewing the new iPad Pro 11 inch? c:
No, I'm getting a 12.9" but I'm sure the experience will be the same between them.
Brad Colbow oh, Yay! Love your reviews. Looking forward to it!
Well done, enjoyed :)
Can you do a revew on the A30?
i had VEIKK S640 but my dog ate its pen yesterday i want to be just like you but now i cant because i dont have a pen of the tablet
Review the new ipad pro please?
I'm guessing this pen display isnt compatible with left handed users
Hi Brad, can you review Huion kamvas pro 12 xD
Dear 3 people who disliked the video,
Why did you dislike the video?
They are Wacom staff LOL 😂😂
New iPad pro review pls
this vs xppen 15.6pro?
These tablet brands are like mumble rappers. A new one popps up every day!!!
i love that companies are coming out of the shadows with these awesome displays but i'm so sad they don't give lefties much thought.. sad uwu;
There is left hand mode :)
graphic tablet there are tablets where lefties can't use the shortcut keys as effectively is what I mean. Specific tablets that interest me have had stationary stands that can't be rotated for lefties.
@@Killakuma That's true, totally understand, manufacturer will always try to improve, thanks for your suggestion :)
The question parrot XD
Awesome
duse it animate
the problem is.. i cant draw beautifully
No Ipad Pro 2018 reaction video yet?:O or are you waiting to get your hands on it first? @bradcolbow
Yeah, I decided to wait since it will only be a few days before I get my hands on one :)