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In this video I discuss the Godox AD-S65 and AD-S85 Softbox / octabox. They are Godox mount, so they are proprietary to the Godox AD400 Pro, AD600M, and AD600 (not to be confused with AD600B and AD600BM which feature a Bowens mount). They will also work with the upcoming Godox AD300 Pro
One massive benefit is the very compact size of the softbox when collapsed, as it is much thinner than the equivalent diameter Bowens mount softbox. This
This compact design does have some flaws however, as it requires the inner diffusion or inner beauty dish plate be removed to collapse the softbox. And to get inside and remove those discs, you have to remove the outer diffusion. So every time you set it up you have to completely tear it apart if using any inner accessories.
You deserve a medal...every question I have re flash and soft boxes has led me to your videos....priceless! Thanks!
I've been eyeing this to go with the AD300 Pro when that comes out.
I bought a 400 recently because I needed more power outside than my 200s could provide, and I went with the 25" beauty dishes for some harsh light. I need something bigger and might go with this 85 version. The size is very appealing and your light kit video was a huge eye opener. Very helpful as always.
Thank you sir, gonna have to get one for my traveling kit!
I did not know you had to twist to get into place. Thank you so much you saved me!
Awesome review!
4:44 It's TWO beauty dish plates, so if you just sandwich them your "accidental" bounce is easily solved. You can make any combination happen this way, no accidental gold bounce ;)
Thanks for the video Robert. I actually ordered one right after I saw your video on the ad300 video you did. Interesting fact, with the one I received I also received a small circle piece of fabric with silver on one side and black on the other. The fabric has a very small hole and was around the tip the locking piece that is there. So it acts as a beauty dish reflector. I can message you with a pic if you'd like.
Also, have you seen the extension head for the ad400? I have that as well. Works great, same mount as well. Plus I ordered the ad600 carry bag for hanging it on a shoulder, or as a weight on the light stand.
Thanks again for your great videos. I always learn something new.
Great review,
Today i got ads85 great kit for my ad600m
I've been using a flattened disposable pie tin as my "beauty dish plate" on my collapsible 47" octobox lol. Works like a charm. :] The smaller form factor of the new Godox mounts are extremely appealing though.
Great video
Thank you. Was trying to decide between the AD-S65 and a FotodioX 28" EZ-Pro Deep Parabolic Softbox. Didn't catch that these aren't available with a Bowens mount. Makes it an easy decision.
Damn Robert, that beard is getting EPIC. I'm not too proud to admit that as a fellow bearded human I'm a skosh jealous
Lol, thank you very much. I'm quite satisfied to have my next almost dissappear!
Hey Robert thanks for making all these Godox videos. As a Godox user myself I find your videos very useful. Question, will the AD-S85 work/mount on a Godox S2 bracket? Do I need a 'step down or up ring' or any other type of converter to make it work?
Same question i have if u found out let me know plz
awesome so know its time to wait for ad300 or some mount for ad200. I use also some cheap soft made by triopo - also pretty good
Looks like a promising product especially when you travel. Paired with the AD300 Pro.. would be a nice compact setup to carry. I am sure their V2 of this range would address the issues you mentioned. By the way, like the perspective / leading lines behind you :).
Thanks Robert. I too am looking to purchase the AD300pro, although I have stopped until I get a better understanding of Guide Numbers and Wattseconds on the Godox range. I have 2 V860II and an AD200 and wonder if buying the AD300pro is going to give me enough power per dollar? If you could add this in to your video when you next do one, that would be great.
"Softbox things." 😂
I dig it.
Thinking aloud.. would be nice if Godox could make another round head attachment for the AD200 with a Godox mount like the AD300 Pro.. where we could use these modifiers. Even a S bracket with a Godox mount would be a nice compact contraption.
So you are telling me, I can use both Softboxes without the inside bit and just only use the main outside white Cover? Great video and explanation as always. Much appreciated 🙏 🔥
I really like the Godox AD S65 for its compact size and hope that Godox will make an adapter like the AD B2 for a single AD200 with a 20 watt LED.
with the Godox mount
ROBERT! What is that little white circle scruffy thing that comes on the pop up mount rod?! Is that supposed to stay on and act as a small light disturbance (beauty dish scrunchy)? Or can I just let it fall off and keep it off? I have two 300s and a 400 and hope to finish out my travel kit! I also have the 600, but mainly use it for outdoors, when more power is needed. Thanks!
Comparing the light output - 85 cm with Bowens mount vs 85 cm with Godox mount - any differences?
Hi Robert can you tell us the exact closed lengths of the 65 and 85 please. I'de like to see if they fit into my existing peli cases
What lighting bag is that you show when packing the bowens mount softbox?
Great video, btw what is your light stand bag seen in the video? Thanks!
The bag is from Strobius but I don't think they are available anymore.
Very informative, thanks! Quick question: I just bought the AD-S65 for an ML-60, but my big issue is how to you add colour gels? There doesn't seem to be an easy way.
LE problème des boites en montures godox.
Hi Robert! Can you pls tell me the brand and model of your stand black bag that appear in this video? Thanks. Cheers from Portugal!
Great. Is it compatible with ad600bm ? With an adaptator ? Thanks for your answer.
Is there anyway I can connect the ad-s65 to ad600BM
Any idea if there is likely to be a StripBox variant of these? I regularly need StripBox softboxes and it would be really useful to be able to travel such a small kit. I've already allocated cash towards a couple of AD300Pros and ideally i'd like a couple of suitable strip boxes to go on them...
I would assume an expansion of this lineup is coming along with the AD300 Pro. I just don't know when or what that entails.
@@robhallphoto Awesome, thanks for your thoughts. If a simple stripbox was added to the line up it would make for a great travel kit, lets hope one arrives soon.
The other thing with these softboxes is this, If you don't have a bowens standard reflector it will allow you to use the ad400 standard reflector. I had the bowens adaptor on at all times to use the bowens 85cm godox octobox, making it bulky in my photography backpack. The 85cm godox mount softbox makes the ad400 slimmer in my backpack AND allows me to use the slim godox standard reflector that came with the ad400. Buying the 85cm godox softbox gave me the ability to use the standard reflector, and made it slimmer in my backpack.
For now I'm keeping the 80cm bowens mount octobox, if or when I decide to buy an ad600 or an LED for video that has bowens mount built in, but if I don't buy that I will sell my 80cm bowens octobox and just stick to godox mount modifiers to keep the ad400 slim enough to go straight into my regular backpack.
The reason this matters is that I live in a city in Norway and I don't always have access to a car, and I often walk or take a bus to my locations. If I lived in the US I'd probably keep to bowens mount for a wider variety of modifiers if I was going to put my gear in a car anyway.
Ok then. I have the Godox AD400 pro and the Godox S65 softbox. What do you recommend for a good sturdy light stand?
nice review. sorry for my english, do you mean that you are using ads-085 without inner diffuser and only with external fabric ? does glow ez beauty dish you are using (with metal plate inside on BTS ?) gives a better light than ads-085 with a ad400 pro ?
Yes I used with only outer diffusion. I find it on par with light quality from EZ Lock beauty dish series of similar size.
You should check out the Quantum QF35 octabox's for the AD360/200 style mount. When I picked up some 200's on 'Black Friday' sale I also picked up a pair of the Quantums. They're only about 1" smaller than the AD-S65 in diameter, have a real deflector plate, egg crate grid and pack down super small. Like 36" double fold umbrella small. They're a little bit more money($80-ish) but an excellent alternative to the S-Bracket and Bowens mount for those that run the AD-200's and need a small package. I haven't used them on many paid gigs at this time but that is because I haven't really switched out my speedlights for the AD-200's in my location lighting kit yet. That said, so far I am really liking the results.
Love the ad-s7 (qf35)'s for use with my ad200s. Paired with the extension head and nice grip, you got a great on the go set up!
@@jpaden8515 I also looked at the AD-S7(which is a hair smaller and half the price) but between the fabric used, stitching, velcro and interior finish I felt the Quantum unit was better built. I just wish someone would make a small to medium strip box with that mount.
As to using the extension head, that's one key benefit I've found with them. I can use an articulating arm(22" NOGA) to 'boom' the light off axis of a lightweight stand, no need for a grip head and arm on a heavier stand. Since the vast majority of my work is on-location corporate headshots, a lighter kit is better and a 24" modifier is often more than enough. That's not to say I won't use a C-stand or my Manfrotto 420B combo stand with a bigger modifier in my home studio or for some jobs, but for quick on-location work this combo is looking like a real winner.
Is the outer material of the Godox branded version the same as the Glow version?
I prefer the Bowens mount too, but I can see the advantage in portability with this smaller form factor.
Have you had any colour issues with this? I got the ads85s and I'm getting a yellow cast from it.. Useless!
Just wanted to mention, the godox ad-S85 Soft box, that I have just purchased, does not fit my Godox proprietary M mount h600 and h1200 heads, although they appear to be compatible, the diameter of my ad-S85 Soft box mount has a male outside diameter which is exactly the same as the female inside diameter of my Godox M mount heads, making it impossible to attach.
As I've converted all my modifiers speed rings to the Godox proprietary M mount for a more optimised light spread, I am hopeful that they will fit the new Godox ad-300pro I've just ordered, as I am guessing godox may have opened up the tolerances of the mount to be compatible with the new ad-S65/S85 Soft boxes, or it may simply be that my ad-S85 Soft box has a slightly oversised mount.
So it seems the AD-S60S, AD-S65x and AS-S85x don't fit on the AD600 and AD600M ...
Hi can this softbox used with other flash apart from ad300pro and 400 using s2 bracket?
Hey what’s better for the ad300, the s65 or s85 S models
Hey Robert, love the size of the godox mount modifier. Is there any way to adapt the AD200 Pro to it?
No.
Robert Hall Photography what about with the godox adb2 adapter ? could handle 2 ad200 pro
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@7:17 I feel attacked.
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Good!! 😂😂
Which godox soft box will go with AD300 pro?
Kinda wonder if they might do a Godox mount head for the AD200 series.
Why? They already have the ADB2?
@@mikezupancic2182 Because ADB2 is Bowens and can’t use these more portable Godox-mounted soft boxes with AD 200.
@@CarringtonAdkins but the point if the godox mount is being compact. Can't really have compact if you've got a big round adapter, plus there are very few godox mount softboxes out there in relation to Bowens mount.
Hey Robert any chance you can do side by side comparison of these vs (Glow) deep umbrellas in a video or the group? I’m curious about any specularity and fall off quality differences between these options of equivalent sizes especially with the diffusion cover for the umbrellas on
Hello Rob. I'm starting to learn artificial lighting by myself and got me a very good priced AD200 and AD400. Do you know if it's possible (or even practical) to mount the AD200 to these AD-S65 and AD-S85 softboxes?
nope, none of the heads will fit inside the inner diameter of the Godox mount. If there is an adapter solution out there (such as bowens mount to godox mount) it may let you but the h200r up against it and get some light in there, but at that point you're not really using a softbox as the light can't bounce around the inside of the modifier walls.
@@robhallphoto thank you for taking the time to reply. It makes sense now!
Is there any way to mount a Godox AD-S85 onto a Bowens mount video light like Sl200 for example? Is there some sort of an adapter to use these modifiers with video lights?
nope
How do you close this?
Rob, what is the light stand bag you are using in this, it looks like what I would like to carry things in. thanks
It's by Strobius but they've been unavailable since onset of Covid.
Hi Robert, i'm looking to buy this softbox, 85cm version, for my ad400pro, it will be my first one.... What do you recommend with silver or white interior from your experience? Thanks!
I like silver, reason being, once diffusion is in front it's practically indistinguishable between the two. But silver affords you higher contrast if you shoot no diffusion. Also, white tends to yellow over time and silver stays the same as long as I've ever had a softbox.
Hi,@Robert hall photography I don’t suppose you know if Godox have plans to make a strip light soft box with this mount. I shoot a lot of headshots and normally use strip lights. I have the ad300 pros which I bought because of the compact size but I still need to use my bulky Bowen’s mount strip soft boxes which saves me nothing. I think that godox have limited the range of modifiers for their proprietary mount too much. The two soft boxes are too similar in size to make enough difference to warrant buying both, and the lack of striplight style softbox is really frustrating.
I do not know their plans for expanding the modifier range on the Godox mount. It’s curious, considering the Godox mount goes back to the original AD600. I would expect their to be a lot more for it but I guess the Bowen’s dominance altered that. Hopefully now that they have a couple lights (400 pro / 300 pro) and the 300 pro is gaining popularity, we will see more modifiers developed.
@@robhallphoto Thanks Robert, I hope they expand the range to include strip soft boxes, or at least allow a third party to use the mount to develop their own versions. Cheers
Hey Robert! Which one would you recommend getting? Silver or white? I'm planning on using it with the AD300 Pro
Is there a way to buy the godox mount and adapt it later to a bowens mount? That would be the definitive modifier!
It doesn't seem likely due the diameter difference between the 2
Hi Robert,
I recently bought a Godox AD-S65SWHITE and a Godox AD-H600 Flash head to use as recommended in this video. However I can't mount the modifier on the flash head. The mount a little big for the flash head.
I would appreciate your comments on this.
Thanks
I think you need to talk to whoever sold it to you about a replacement. You sure they didn't send you an H600B?
Robert Hall Photography I am very sure it’s it not the Bowen’s Mount. I have sent the seller a message, waiting on a response after their conversation with Godox.
Thanks
@@robhallphoto Here's the reply I got back from the seller,
"so sorry to trouble you,
we just receive the message from godox engineers,
they tell us godox mount has two models,
one is old model godox mount which it can only fit old model flash like AD600 flash,
another is newest godox mount which it can fit newest flash like AD400pro and AD300pro.
but they can not be used between them."
Hope this helps anyone thinking of getting the godox mount ad600 or ad-h600 flash head.
@ "In this video I discuss the Godox AD-S65 and AD-S85 Softbox / octabox. They are Godox mount, so they are proprietary to the Godox AD400 Pro, ***AD600M, and AD600*** (not to be confused with AD600B and AD600BM which feature a Bowens mount). They will also work with the upcoming Godox AD300 Pro"
???
Do these new softboxes (AD-S60S, AD-S65x and AS-S85x) really fit on the AD600 and AD600M ???
Yes, the AD600M and AD600. Which, practically nobody has. But that is the model AD600, not the AD600B / AD600BM which are commonly referred to as AD600.
Thanks a lot Rob, but a user has posted this about a year back here under your video:
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Here's the reply I got back from the seller:
"So sorry to trouble you,
we just receive the message from godox engineers,
they tell us godox mount has two models,
one is old model godox mount which it can only fit old model flash like AD600 flash,
another is newest godox mount which it can fit newest flash like AD400pro and AD300pro.
but they can not be used between them."
Hope this helps anyone thinking of getting the godox mount ad600 or ad-h600 flash head.
Hello Robert, Is this softbox compatible with the Godox S Bracket version 2 ? Thanks.
no. The S2 bracket is Bowens mount.
Wish they'd come out with some more stuff using this mount as i'm starting to switch over for portability. And why is it so hard to find stuff by this mount? The EU version of their website has it in its own section but not the US verison :facepalm:
An collapsible outer diffusion would be clutch
you should be able to use these softboxes with the AD600B / BM as well - there has been an adapter available for years.
And most people having the extension head probably already own it - the infamous locking ring (Godox AD-CS). The exension cable actually uses the Godox mount to lock in.
I wouldn't want to mount giant softboxes on that piece of plastics, but the AD-S85 probably should still be light enough for that...
The locking ring doesn't fit the Godox AC strobes, but it does fit into the S-Type bracket - but as Rob pointed out, speedlights are too wide to be used with the mount (maybe the TT350 could fit?).
I was able to clamp my AD360 into the S-Type bracket with locking ring, though, so the AD200 with barebulb should also fit it. But both have to be clamped right on the edge of the bulb head, which likely will put a lot of stress on there - not ideal.
Can you use the softbox with the Bowens mount adapter on the ad400?
yes
AD-S65S fits perfectly my needs with a Godox V850II, but the thing is that as you said there is no "Type-S2 bracket" for the Godox Mount... Since the video is from March 2020... Does anybody know if there is an adapter for Godox Mount modifiers to Speedlights? Thanks
Still no direct adapter. And there never will be, as the speedlight head is bigger than the Godox mount opening. There's a bowens to Godox adapter that you could put in a bowens S bracket, but your flash would never make it inside and therefore you'd be flagging the light before it even goes into the softbox, so not using the walls at all. Better off just using a 33" umbrella at that point.
@@robhallphoto Thank you very much for your reply Rob !!! Too bad, I know an umbrella is the best option, but I was looking for something more "dramatic" like a beauty dish with a grid ... I'm afraid I have no choice but to save up and take 2x AD200, as you have recommended in many of your videos, going in the most "budget” path.
I do dancers, circus and fitness TFCD photography, no professional, just colabs… so non-neveneu
@@robhallphoto Oops, I have asked you with an account of mine and I have answered you with a different one, also mine ...😅
Is godox planning any leds that take these 'godox' mount softboxes?
Don't think so. Only LEDs in the pipeline are the VL series which is bowens
What lightstand bag are you using?
Strobius 110 standard. It's perfect for my kit size, but the zipper's durability is an issue.
I carry 3x AD200, S mount brackets, AKR1 and spare batteries, 3 stands and a large umbrella on the inside.
Hi. Where did you get yor bag (video: 2.57 min)? Thanks
It’s not made anymore.
So they are not compatible with Ad600bm. which model then is compatible??
AD600m
pls i need a help i can Godox AD-S65 fit Godox SK400ll studio flash ?
no. The SK400II is bowens mount.
@@robhallphoto Thanks so much, any softbox bowens mouth you can recommend to me
You can check out my videos on Glow EZ Lock series or Cheetahstand Softboxes. I don't recommend specific sizes, as those should be based on your light quality and workflow preferences.
Shipping to Germany ($ 70) unfortunately exceeds the cost of the softbox. Too bad that there is no dealer in Germany or in the EU who sells the equipment.
Buy it from China.
While these seem great and the compact size is neat. I am not investing in a new mount that's not compatible with the rest of the gear I have (tons of softboxes, stripboxes, octas, beautydish and different reflectors and more non godox monolights that have the Bowens mount) Specially if it isn't going to be compatible with my AD200s
Also I don't like how close to the flash tube the new mount is.
I hope they at least offer a Bowens adapter for their future products.
Is there a way to mount these two softboxes to ad200 via adapters?
No.
can we use it with godox s bracket mark II?
No, that's Bowens.
Robert Hall Photography aww too bad, thanks Rob!
Does the Godox S65S works with Godox SL60w?
I think it's time for Godox to release a new head for the ad200 that would be compatible with the proprietary small softbox mount. For now all the benefits of this flashlight are canceled out by the fact that you need a massive adapter and massive bowens mount softboxes. Even the larger ad300 pro and ad400 pro are compatible with ad-s85 softbox, but the ad200 pro isn't. Crazy.
i think that would be an awesome product!
Yes, it would be cool. I even wrote a letter to Godox, but I don't know if they will heed this idea.
...and Godox replied:
Dear friend,
Good day!
Thanks for contacting Godox, we are very thank you for enjoying and supporting Godox product.
Wow,that's a good idea,and we will convey your feedback to our technicians.
We appreciate your attention and feedback.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further queries or require any further assistance.
Have a nice day!
Looks like you're spending my coronavirus money for me. Damn you.
Why adorama doesn't ship in India????????
probably cause it'd cost more than the price tag of most products.
@@robhallphoto am ur subscriber and i love to watch ur videos . After watching this ad s85s i want to buy this type of product could u help me to buy this.
Ur chennel is sponsored by adorama i hope u will definitely help me
Works this also with AD300?
Yes
Glow pop forever...just so easy😫
You can improve the sound of your video by placing a bass trap in the corner behind you, your voice sounds "boxy" due to sound bouncing in that area.
Maybe there's a corner confront of him too? lol
Phurzd.
Very bad experience
As per product specifiaction, it should provide 380 full power pops. But it is providing only 220-230 pops only even if the battery is fully charged
I never buy soft boxes that don't have a grid option
what's that gotta do with these?
@@robhallphoto Even on location I occasionally want to attach a honeycomb grid & my modifiers have to be usable in the studio as well where I often use grids.
@@colinadams5745 I understand wanting grids. Both of these include grids. That's why I asked what your comment has to do with these lol.
Le système de blocage ouvert est capricieux... Et surtout 2 gros inconvénients de ces boites : L'impossibilité de mettre des gélatines, et l'ajout d'accessoires de qualité très médiocres qui se fixent avec des velcros... j'aimais mieux les petits attaches métalliques. Pourquoi godox ne fait rien pour les accessoires gélatines, grid etc... en magnétique ? Dommage car cette monture est super par ailleurs.
Beard ..........😱😱😱
Wish they would get rid of that yellow and the branding. It honestly bothers me too much that I wouldn’t purchase. So gaudy, should be black and sleek.
I've said that about every photography accessory with color since I've been in the industry. I don't know who they are branding for either. But I will say, I can spot an EZ Lock from like 150 yards and know what it is and I guess that's their goal.
Easy fix. Get an ad-s65 (85) from a dealer that isn't selling the rebranded glow ones. The normal godox ones only have the name on them in grey. For what reason it's on there... I dunno lol.
What's relevant is how the light looks when heavy handed photoshop has not been applied. Impossible to tell from your examples.
Every time you mention "AD400" I keep Googling 80400 (same with all the ADs). Good GODOX videos but need to be clearer on your "AD's"
Slow down.
Your not getting paid by the word.
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Speed up.
Get on that 0.75x!
Stephen Holding, he doesn't waste your time😁; you get a lot of information, then you can get back to work😊.