7 Signs You Are About to be Fired (Even if It’s UNFAIR)
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- Are you feeling like the axe is about to fall and you are getting fired from your job? If you feel like your job is in danger, you can look for subtle signs you’re going to be fired. If you are seeing signs you are getting fired (or fear you will be soon) there are a steps you can take at the end to make sure you’re prepared in case you get fired from your job (stay to the end to get those tips!).
CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:54 Decrease in perf feedback/review (even though you rock)
2:41 Assignments you should get are going to coworkers
3:45 Your Manager starts taking notes or sending followups
5:35 You’re Being Setup to fail
7:27 Coworker relationships becoming distant
8:40 You’re put on a PIP
10:10 Your gut
11:18 BONUS: How to be prepared
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I'm always a fan of having a Plan B lined up (even when you're not worried about being laid off or fired and you're in a job you love and not a toxic AF job). Do you have a plan B (or have you updated your resume and LinkedIn)?
Three resumes in 9 months. I'm kicking them out by the quarter and as I learn better resume skills. I am going to go through my linked-in profile if my current interview doesn't come through. I'm not big on interviewing widely but may have to learn.
I have been fired 4 times in the same field of work over the past 9 years and I still managed to double my income.
Plan B is turning into Plan A. I got a call saying the interviews over the last two weeks have gone well, and they are making an offer.
@@jeffrybrickley870 AHHH this is fantastic news!! Please keep me posted!
I think it's a good idea to have a secondary job, or as you refer to it in America: a side Hustle. It took me a while to appreciate that.
ATTENTION: COWORKERS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!!!
That's like befriending an FBI agent or a state trooper.
Some of my best friends were co-workers and we've remained friends even after leaving the horrible jobs we met at. If you can't or choose not to make friends at work, it will be miserable by default. Some of your best opportunities can come from friends, you never know where they may go in life and they might want you to work with them. It's like the old term they used to use "Networking".
Coworkers can be friendly and achieve a connection although they need a paycheck
Friend without the R is fiend
Actually two of my best friends I have were coworkers and even tho we've all got different jobs now we still speak frequently
Your gut instinct never betrays you.
If they give you inadequate training, they're setting you up to fail and get fired.
yes. nothing says you are set up to fail like throwing a new person head into a role without the breadth of at least 4-6 months.
I believe that. Zero training where I'm at.
2 months in and flying by the seat of my pants!
Inadequate training and tasks for one meant to be done by at least three people.
Yep. They gave my friend very few training materials and two weeks to learn a job that they told him takes two to three months. Maybe they should look at the incompetent trainer and fire that person. Turn the tables and you will see how invested that person suddenly becomes in your success.
It's been 4 months now.
I am hanging in there.
Been 'promoted', without pay, to be assistant to the office manager. All while answering the phones (the guys refuse to learn the proper way to handle phone calls [purposely?!] so they are pulled from that duty and relegated to opening the front door for our guests, or, taking the car for a wash, or gassing it up. Occasionally they take out the garbage...but that's usually my task as well. Taking care of flowers, arranging, prayer cards, filing, unpacking urns, correcting directors work, ETC., all while learning the-special-way Excel is used for logging data...By the time I leave each day I am so frazzled, sore from running around the building, and blurry eyed. *all for $12.00 an hour
Grateful for the paycheck but need more money an hour for this!
Sometimes being unjustly fired from a job turns out to be a blessing in disguise because it opens the door to a better opportunity to a more rewarding job.
Absolutely.
This is so true! I got “suspended” for a week which turned into my employer ignoring me the next week when I wanted to come back to work, anyway a week later I found a job that pays 30 an hour which is way better than before
Yes!! 🤗🤗🤗
Lucky few here
How to you get over it like they won 😢you can’t get them back that’s what I’m stuck on
I hate working for companies. It's like being back in highschool. Too much gossip and bullshit.
Me too. I worked for a small restaurant for 14 years. I got my degree and plenty of certifications and built up a nice cushion . But they closed a week after the lock downs. I went to work for a large corporation and it was definitely like experiencing hell on earth. Not sure where else I'll be working at next.
Same. I work in aerospace and after working so hard to get where I am, I recently came to the realization that I no longer want to punch a clock at all regardless of the field. Currently working on my several streams of income so I can call it quits
Yes, it's COMPETITON ... just like high school was. Think of High School as being the training ground for the dog-eat-dog lifestyle.
EXACTLY.
I despise it!
@@ignazs.5816 keep after it. lost my job at big corp. took 8 months of gut wrenching job searching. go back to school - crazy expensive with ageism
Getting fired from a toxic job is a blessing. Let them let you go. Don't quit.
Why is this a blessing?
@@tiahardy31715 sometime you can receive unemployment benefits. I did.
For sure. I'll let them firing me. I won't step back.
@@tiahardy31715 So you can move on.
This is the absolute truth! My boss was so toxic that I would grind my teeth (unconsciously) until my jaws would ache. Finally, I was fired and relief just washed all over me. I was actually twirling in the parking lot and couldn't quit smiling. The very next day I was hired by another company that I love AT DOUBLE THE PAY. I would call that a blessing.
A bad sign I've seen is when everyone you work with isn't friendly, including the boss. Your coworkers form a clique and shut you out.
Oftentimes they'll give you strange looks when you walk by. And if you say hello or good morning they just look at you like you're from friggin Mars.
Oh god I've experienced this.. Its like high school and your the kid that doesn't fit in.
@@MsPriyaLalthe typical work environment is pretty much like that. Junior high school with smoke breaks!
Bullies remain bullies even when grown...they just refine their technique.
This is why I DREAM of WINNING the LOTTERY!!!
I got a pair of headphones for that.
@@kashfortheking you mean to drown out your obnoxious coworkers?
Toxic bosses or setting a person up to fail should be illegal
I believe toxic bosses deliberately set people up for failure, you can’t make things better it’s just a big downward spiral
What about setting a person and or myself UP to be Murdered? Sounds a little outlandish? Not really in Terre Haute @ the good ole Bureau Office Right Ann? We call it Malice-A-Fore-Thought because it is 1st Degree Murder at the minimum.
Illegal? It is mandatory.
I agree ☝️
I’m going through that right now.
This is exactly why ppl are switching jobs and starting their own businesses. None of these reasons that you gave for being let go has anything to do with your work quality. The way jobs treat people is like being in a codependent abusive relationship.
So true - and I know it's the right step for many. But sooo many people who start their own business end up exploited by dodgy "business coaches", competing on fees on Fiverr and Upwork with unstable incomes, or giving a ton of money to Facebook on ads. I love having my own business, but it's not easy.
@@JenniferBrick Totally agree. Thanks for the video.
Worst part of all is you can't use any of this as collateral when interviewing for a potential new job.
So true. (sadly)
I was unceremoniously fired from my remote analytics job 2 months after my 3 month probationary period was over (and the friend who got me the job received his bonus from recommending me.) Ha ha, I mistakenly thought I was "home free" after the 3 month probation. Live and learn.
I got fired from my accounting job and I knew it was coming. I dreaded going to work, knowing that no matter what I did, I was going to screw up. It was a good firm, I just was not a good accountant. I was there for 5 months and they gave me 2 mid term evaluations that were not great. Now I'm a math teacher and I am where I belong and im happier.
I was unceremoniously fired from my remote analytics job 2 months after my 3 month probationary period was over (and the friend who got me the job received his bonus from recommending me.) Ha ha, I mistakenly thought I was "home free" after the 3 month probation. Live and learn.
Those who can’t do teach lol
@@juniorjames7076 the probation never ends my friend. You learned a valuable lesson.
I got fired from a dream job about ten years ago. I can’t express how lucky I feel that it happened.
@@Ian-of9oi so what happened that makes it OK for you
The way your co workers behave is a massive indicator, they’ll lose respect and distance themselves. This means they know you have fallen out of favour with the boss.
So many false friends and backstabbers in this world. We weren't meant to live this way. It's sad.
A lot of times coworkers ARE the reason you are getting fired. They don't like/don't respect you and then bad mouth you behind your back. You have to Grey rock coworkers. They are not your friends.
@nathanlovik1753 Keep your distance, don't gossip or give them any information they can use against you. The workplace is competitive, and people love a take down. You must be self-sufficient, that way, you can remain at a distance. Don't be too aloof, this will also make you a target, you must play the social game it's the only way to survive, find the balance but never get comfortable!
@@flaviaakello The way to be aloof without appearing to be aloof and alienating people is to have interests nobody else has, and which they therefore will not want to discuss but aren't too weird. For example, if coworkers ask about hobbies I'll say coin or stamp collecting. Absolutely, nobody under the age of 65 is interested in those things and the conversation ends there. I don't do either but no one ever pursues it.
Best career move I ever did...saving enough money so I wasn't afraid of losing or leaving my job. It allowed me to take more risks and enjoy what I do instead of taking the first thing offered to me.
Same here, I saved and carefully invested for the last 15 years. I can stop working for several years. When you achieve financial independence you can make your own decisions rather than being forced to make a decision to keep a roof over your head.
Same here, I have about 5 years worth saved up right now with a wife and kid. If I get fired tomorrow we would honestly take a years long vacation lol
Exactly!
Yep, live below yours means for freedom.
Luckily I've been able to save since my divorce a few years ago........ I got covid during Thanksgiving.... And was fired as soon as I went back to work........ Best thing that happened to me in 2021
Culture fit for most corporations = we're looking for a carbon copy of us and individuality is frowned upon but we still want diversity points on LinkedIn so we'll hire a "diverse" person once in a blue moon and post about it. We're so woke.
Yep! I've always wondered why that is ? I always feel like a square peg in a round hole in most companies I've worked for. It's crazy. I've just started a new job. Not even a month in, I'm already thinking of leaving. It's just toxic AF. Plus I have zero in common with all my co workers. I'm way too much of an individual for these assholes that's for sure.
I always saw "cultural fit" as a sneaky way to discriminate
@@jeff6413 That is exactly it, Jeff, it's a "politically correct" phrasing to mask actual discrimination. They can reject your application citing lack of cultural fit even if the real reason is different and no one questions it.
I’ve also learned it’s better for the entire team to be wrong then you being the only person who was right. You have to have a beehive mentality. Humans can be so annoying in packs but I guess I get it 🙄
I work as a recruiter and unfortunately often times you’re right. I hope things can change soon.
So true! All because I wasn’t a gossip. I didn’t fit in with their mess. She saw that I was a strong person and a good quick learner. Therefore she never wanted to train me. She was a very unprofessional messy manager. The company was an “at Will” company so I didn’t fight. I was fired. I just walked away. Sometimes all you can do it pray for people and let God be the final judge. God will compensate. She was very toxic and it had nothing to do with the work. Walking out of there was a blessing and a relief. All the injustices that happened will be taking care of by Karma.
not karma, God's justice.
Another thing. Kind of falls under setting up to fail. But getting picked on for things that are less than everyone else in the workplace gets away with.
If they're going to fire you, they will do it. There is no standard when it comes to firing people in the U.S. I have never been fired for work performance. I have only ever been fired for personal reasons. Typically when I speak the truth or stand up for others, that's more than enough to get fired. Workers need more protections because these companies know they have all the power and flex it any chance they get.
Totally agree, there needs to be worker protections. At Will employment should not be a legal working arrangement.
Accurate.
I included in quotation marks the language of my employment. Which was At-Will. They could fire me whenever, for whatever, without warning or true cause. I wanted to let them know I felt the same way. No two week notice. Just taped my resignation letter to the front door, told the boss I was going for lunch, and went home.
I didn't get a text or phone call from boss or colleague until over 2.5 hours later. 😃 That should tell you something. (only 3 of us were on that day)
@@1Wendy_Woo Oh my gosh. So no warning?
In the state of California it is illegal to terminate someone's employment for speaking up on behalf of someone belonging to a protected class. Even with at will employment in the contract.
Another bad sign is when you see the job you currently have being advertised in the want ads.
Yep!
Interestingly, the company I was unexpectedly fired from puts ads out every 5 months!
I love having a job where I work completely alone. Still work for a company, but literally no coworker interaction. On a job site alone at night. Very, very minimal interaction with supervisors. These jobs exist, just have to keep searching! Hope everyone stays strong through their situation.
Agreed these are the best jobs
Same, i work for a company but in the morning i leave offise and work on sites without ant supervisors, alone, doing work how i think it should be done, interacting with other people when i want to, eating when i want to and scrolling facebook or whatever when i want to
@@entorid6902 that’s awesome. We all need that in our lives
@@entorid6902 Sounds awesome. In what kind of industry do you work?
@@Mortequal i maintain and fix industrial coffee machines, those that are in hospitals, big offices.
Another good tip is that your supervisor will tell you to submit all your information and job manuals into the shared folders for everyone to access.
Dang! I was just asked to do that today.
Yep so it will be available for training the next person
Not necessarily. At my job, we all put important documents into a shared folder. What if the sole keeper of the documents quits? What if he/she goes on vacation or disability?
Yep
@@marys3738 lol
I love how the company who lets you go think they are the only employer on the planets.
I never take it personal because a lot of the time its a personality clash were the boss doesn't like you.
Well said! Thinking that their company is the only employer on the planed seems to be a trait with the Baby Boomer generation.
Our generation (Gen X) , and the ones behind us, pretty much understand that our present employer isn't the only game in town.
Pensions have gone the way of the Dodo bird. 401K plans are portable.
This is EXACTLY what I’m experiencing at the moment. My manager’s name is Jennifer too 😩🙄😖
But my manager literally tries to sell the job to me often to “make me happy and make me feel valued” but none of it works and I hate my job.
Hells yes that’s MY dilemma
@@deepsea5107 So sorry to disappoint you. The 18 to 45 don't want to work especially physical work. The company i am with have called in 60 and 70 year old retired staff back because they younger age bracket don't want the physical work.
These positions as a trades person pay $45 and hour and up.
So its not the money that's poor.
@@imoverthetop44 The 18 - 45 year old demographic at my present employer aren't afraid of physical work. The profession that they chose (most are electric power line workers) pretty much demands hard work and long hours. Electric power line work is a calling/lifestyle. They knew what they were getting into and are getting the job done. I'm glad to see the younger generation getting into this line of work and busting it to get the job done.
Of course, every generation has their slackers. Been that way for eons.
Trusting your gut is so very important! I’m dealing with a toxic work environment currently.
This is so accurate. Having been laid off multiple times (sometimes it’s just downsizing, budget cuts, whatever) it’s almost worse when you see the signs and know what’s coming. We really need better job protection laws, including mandatory on-boarding periods, and punishing supervisors for lack of training and setting people up to fail. 🤬
Yeah people are starting to realize this and there might be laws in the near future.
I got fired for covering a shift. But really they can't give hours and are struggling to pay employees. 😕😡
A job is not who you are. Develop yourself to the best version of yourself.
I had a job where my perfect performance review dropped to rock bottom. I asked my supervisor what was going on, she *_knew_* that the scores were bogus and I asked her to just be straight with me on whether or not I was going to be fired or not. She knew I didn't deserve to be fired, but they needed to show that I was fired for cause. I said enough with the games and took my report to the department head. Wrote "LIES" on the paperwork, made a copy of it and then told the department head "If you want to fire me, just do it." So he did.
I just walked out, leaving almost nothing at my desk. When the supervisor took my side in the unemployment hearing I was frankly shocked.
After the hearing though, she said she had already got another job and that if they could do what they did to me, they would do it to anyone, so she started looking for another job the day of my review. I was touched that someone would have my back like that.
In the years since that, I have been very attuned to dysfunctional work environments, and I never stay there for long. I am so glad that I am retired now and no longer have to deal with the utterly toxic work environment that exists in America today.
To everyone who is working, Look for a job that makes you happy, and work with coworkers that you enjoy being around. Life is too short to be playing stupid employment games.
I needed to see this today!
Age ? Just curious.
I honestly needed to read this. Currently 8 years into my second job. I’m about to be 30 and this just isn’t enough
The last paragraph is so true. Getting my first "legit" job after just recently graduating from college and it's the exact department within engineering I wanted and one I did 4 out of my 5 rotations with said department during college.
The two reasons I accepted the offer without hesitations was I love the work (%95 of the time) and enjoy working with everyone from the department.
So, so true! Cheers to that : )
Recap:
1. You start to get nitpicky negative feedback.
2. Work gets reassigned to other people when it normally would be assigned to you.
3. Red Alert: Your manager starts taking a lot of notes and doing a lot of summary, follow-up emails. Reply to clarify what they got wrong and what you've done. For your own records.
4. You're set up to fail. You're given a huge project with not enough time.
5. Relationships with people at work start being distant. Work friends might start to distance themselves from you.
6. You're put on a Performance Improvement Plan. Ask yourself if it's structured to help you succeed or setting you up to fail?
7. Gut feeling.
Bonus: Be prepared. Build confidence because losing a job can major hit.
never ever tolerate toxic work environment. its better to look for another job asap.
The first and number one sign you are going to be fired or quit is when your competencies exceed your boss and they are in denial.
Then you not only explain in detail why their plan is going to fail but when it fails exactly as you explained, the boss blames you for the failure.
Its happening with me and another thing is on and off time dedicated to train me for better ..
@@blunttalksaditi "Do not outshine the master." is a sure way to get fired lol
They should change the term Performance Improvement Plan to Termination Plan.
That's what they are known as within the HR team
Sometimes a pip is known as a performance appraisal as well.
I once had a boss send me an email saying he was concerned about my performance (which was absolute hogwash, and I replied to the email with proof that I had already briefed him on all these issues and they were already resolved). He even agreed after a meeting that all his concerns were alleviated. That was my first clue he was going to fire me in a shady way, and sure enough, just a few weeks later they did fire me super shady like. Don't have any loyalty to a business. They sure as hell have zero loyalty to you.
Businesses use people and people use businesses
Amen! It's 2022, not 1952. The days of companies being loyal to their people are over. Best bet is to "look out for #1".
Best comment ever. Commitment to cold corp robots is naive.
Yup. Loyalty is for suckers. Present as loyal, but keep looking for other opportunities.
It's also the contradiction in the work environment
Human beings are very unfair and it amazes me how society/governments approve these types of behaviors/toxic attitudes.
Thanks to Charlie Sheen, he outed it as called 'Winning'. Is he still winning tho?
X2.
Cause they do it too, they are mother and father to the whole ordeal
Because they are ungpdly. They don't follow God and don't love others as themselves.
I was on the verge of ending myself if I could have recorded my situation....nothing happened except the Asst Director just walked in one morning and said goodbye...I asked why bc there were never any meeting, no write ups, no warnings of any kind. No micromanaging and all of these other indicators Jennifer mentioned. I never even received not even one termination paper to sign. It was so unfair to me and unprofessional of the. I know I was the only one without a tattoo, only non-smoker, and without a nose ring, 😅
A better title for this video is - Quit before you are fired/laid off and here are the cues. Leaving before the 💩 hits the fan will give you a better chance of getting a better role and not leave you in a bad spot.
Sometimes. If you're terminated sometimes you can collect unemployment (depending on where you live); also depending on the role and company you might get a severance package. In lieu of those though, it is easier to explain quitting vs getting fired in interviews (though I don't think getting fired is a big deal and it's easy to explain).
@@JenniferBrick Great point. But sometimes nasty managers can bash you in a HR-code to potential employees. That may negate the little unemployment 💵 you get. But they won’t get that chance if still employed and look for a new role. Personally, If I feel disrespected or my manager is a petty person and vile; I don’t risk it and I start looking for a new role.
As you should! All of these signs, even if they don't end in termination, show the workplace is dysfunctional. There are so many opportunities out there, might as well pursue something with a better company, right?
@@JenniferBrick It's weird. Mid-management and lower: Being fired is a black mark on your record, making getting hired much more difficult. Really, it is. Many hiring companies don't care what the reason was for your firing, just that you were fired in the first place. On the other hand, in upper management, getting fired is a badge of honor, as it means that you were willing to take risks (that just simply didn't pan out).
@@b1crusade384 What is this HR-code to potential employees you mentioned? Can you elaborate? Or have examples?
Sign, you are ignored by your boss.
That's never a good sign.
He does not reply to your steraight forward questions in emails. For example, mine was about priorities...no reply. "I did that on purpose, I wanted to see what you were going to do there."....
@@DanTheManIOM will mind usually ignore my emails. I don't know different field you're in I guess. This is all of us though. They ignored mine I ignored theirs too.
I got terminated after reporting one of my bosses... I knew it was coming but I have a better job now and it makes me so excited
Good for you! x
@@user-of9bx1uk3u yeah she fired me for hostile work environment but she put her hands on me all the time so it was funny how I was terminated.
It’s a sick world we’re living in whether you’re in school, work, college or taking up a trade
Yup and you can feel safe and secure 1 week and be concerned the next week. Workplaces change.
Great video! It funny how these companies want to be diverse but at the same time want everyone to be the same…like that makes any sense 🙄
Too many companies want faux-versity IMHO. Where they want to appear diverse but they also want everyone to be the same.
@@JenniferBrick Spot on. I worked in diversity. I reported to the Chief Diversity Officer who would always state that the person wasn't the right "fit."
Sort of like the Democratic Party.
@@JenniferBrick diversity only means how many minorities they're supposed to hire. Individual diversity, forget it. Anybody who dances to their own drummer gets canned, even if they can do their job.
@@Mysonismybestfriend True. This is bigger than just the workplace
Once I caught a boss of mine building a paper trail to fire me ….I began my job hunt to a new role. I was gone within 3 weeks. I should have know once my old boss left I was in trouble. The new boss basically hired who she wanted and basically promoted that person the day after I left. A lot of my previous coworkers left after me and noticed the hypocrisy.
Changes is leadership can be a red flag depending on who comes in. Glad you got a new job quickly!
Definitely a red flag when a boss that you get along well with suddenly leaves. I had that happen to me, I came in to work one day and my boss (the one who hired me) quit without 2 weeks notice. Everything went down hill from there.
Cleaning company I was working for fired my boss I didnt like it
This is so true. Actually where I have worked before there's always the sign that the boss stops giving you tasks and stops inviting you to the meetings. Great video!
The sudden lightening the workload is a big warning sign. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, Rodo!
@@JenniferBrick Yes. For a few years, my load calendar was over-filled and I had to learn told to "build capacity." Even tho, I already worked longer hours than anyone on the team. Then, my boss got expanded responsibility and put me under my co-worker. The workload lessened under this new supervisor, which I thought was good but then I got written up.
Definitely! Or bringing in someone to help you and asking that you share more often on statuses constantly.
@@JessicaHicks Exactly!
Meetings…yes
You missed: "Your boss asks you to train a new hire or department transfer how to do your job".
That exact thing just happened to me and the same day I trained them I was fired before I got off smh
@@feliciakent9628 That's just wrong. Sorry.
That's a sick thing do
so much anxiety from this video because I had experienced most of these signs in my last job. my boss treated me like this and it was horrible. I'm at a completely different company now and the difference between treatment is night and day. know what you're worth and leave that toxicity!
No need to stay at a toxic place. I've worked for some ridiculous people in my time and some outstanding ones. At the end of the day it's just a job.
The trust your gut is so important! This happened to me years ago and I left right in time to get another job in NYC!
Extra applause for NYC! I love this city so much!
ALWAYS read in between the lines!!! NON VERBAL CUES is the LANGUAGE of CORPORATE AMERICA!!!
I trusted my gut and walked out for good December 15th. Very proud of myself!
Nitpicking at everything is sign. Nothing is ever good enough. They also start talking about you looking elsewhere for other places.
Sometimes you are being setup to lose out on a promotion.
I recently got laid off and there were some clear signs I picked up on but tried to brush off as purely paranoia before I got the news. 1. Work that was supposed to come my way suddenly wasn't talked about anymore, 2. Manager's disinterest in what I was doing, 3. Manager saying "oh you don't have to be in that cross-departmental meeting if you can't make it", 4. "we're prioritizing our efforts and focusing only on what moves the needle" and 5. the worst of all, being asked to compile my working assets on the company's drive "so people can have easy access and don't have to ask you for it" (I'm a designer). All of that along with a random 1:1 with the manager set up on a Friday afternoon a week in advance. Like I said, I picked up on these, but wanted to believe it was just paranoia. When I logged in to that meeting and saw that the company's commercial director was also in the call, I knew right away it was over.
I learned one thing, it doesn't matter how much excellent work you deliver, if the boss doesn't like to or if he/she already has his favorite employee, you have no chances.
Increased level of micromanaging by your direct supervisor is a big hint. Being set up to fail is common. Organizations set up a paper trail when all these occur. Leaving is prudent.
Hearing all this makes me want to continue to be a self employed contractor no matter if it’s hard…
My last employer did all these things exactly how you described them. I’m grateful I knew what was going on and was able to submit my resignation letter before they were able to formally fire me.
Especially the faux diverse point at my last job. Being the only male working in my entire building (I work in nursing) you would’ve thought that my company would want to keep me around. Nope, it was like I was always looked at under a microscope and little mistakes such as misspelling words when documenting were blown way out of proportion.
A firing will entitle you to a severance package on some occasions. Quitting will not.
@@applefan612 Did you quit so that you could possibly be rehired?
The paper trail is important. This has happened to me twice and in both situations, they were caught off guard when it was discovered that I had heavy documentation against them. I think I spooked one employer because my documentation was so spot on that you could find the evidence in one of our systems to back it up and that was information that just could not vanish. This is why I will finish my Master's in History early next year and look to remote history jobs. I'm already working towards Plan B.
A master's in history, huh? Hope that plan B works for you. History jobs are scaaaarce.
I was recently terminated from a toxic job. Thank goodness. 1 month later I'm with the best company I ever have been
If you feel they are planning to fire you, just start burning sick and pto. Look for another job and do the bare minimum. No need to over work yourself.
I would say just do the bare minimum from the beginning.
5 disliked were from narcissistic Managers who feel exposed. Great video! 😎
Lol yep probably.
This also brings up the question for me of why would I ever invest in employer healthcare /retirement if they're throwing people out like this?
@Alpha Omega it's collar* not color....
I feel the same.tho
I have kept a paper trail and prove my point professionally and tactfully. They showed me the door. If you get a feeling that someone is trying to fire you, find another job and leave.
If your employer want to fire you, they will, what you can do is start looking for new job. it's not going to be a friendly environment anymore anyway..
I got fired today. It’s been leading up for months ever since I first stood up for myself. It was a full on slash in the amount of inclusion in important meetings and info after that.
I was continually being given impossible tasks outside of my work title without any training and expected to figure it out. I was told I was going to promoted in the first month I started, and start being trained, yet I started doing the new position + my current one. Literally at the bottom of the pyramid while still doinv jobs that were 2 positions above me + any IT work. I was a receptionist yall. Doing. IT. Work. To make it better, a toxic co worker was involved, totally taking away any good i did do. Micromanaging me, completely going over what I did but in the most random way like I would open a box of face masks and she would come around the corner and fold the corners differently. So odd. She would slam doors or call me stupid when I told her that I didn’t need help nicely. I would bring it to my boss’s attention and was told “it was just her personality” “she had a hard week”
I went in and did my all everyday, but a month ago was told to recreate the book that gave directions on what my job was to do. I re wrote everything, finally thinking I was getting recognition. I wish that I would have realized I was creating the new training book for the person who’d replace me.
A week ago, was my breaking point. I was told I wasn’t working urgently or hard enough. I cried, the boss also attacked my parenting & personal life. Over the weekend I fully prepared to be fired. Today we met again, she asked what She could do differently, i told her. She argued, interrupted, was shaking and trying to defend everything I had said with little actual proof. She told me to start looking for a new job so that she didn’t fire me and i couldn get unemployment. I said i was there to do my job and wouldn’t quit. After while, she was approved to let me go. I didn’t cry one bit this morning until I carried all my stuff to my car and dropped my strawberries then the tears starting flowing. The worst part of being fired is feeling so disposable. She told me to my face she doesn’t care about her employees she cared about the profit for the company.
That's sad! Was she vaccinated for COVID? Sorry but vaccinated people for COVID are loosing their marbles and becoming very mean and evil! Good luck on finding a better job with better people!
I hope you documented all the harrasment and retaliation(which is illegal) that you suffered for speaking up, if yes, time for a lawsuit😁😁 this hurts the most to companies
"Being set up to fail" happened to me. :) I ran a group that provided internal services and relied on volunteers from other parts of the company for staff. The VP I reported to engineered one of the key sources of staff withdrawing from my group. The only notice I ever got of this was when my peer, that I coordinated with, informed me they were withdrawing. They had legitimate concerns but they could have been addressed. VP knew about the whole situation, knew there were issues that could have been addressed, but never once informed me. I found out months later that he had facilitated the mortal wounding of my group.
Watch your back out there, friends. Companies do not reward loyalty. Your colleagues at work are not your friends.
Facts.
This is why you should always be interviewing.
I worked in a very toxic environment where my bosses were gas lighting me. I knew I was being set up to be fired. I left before they had that opportunity.
Gaslighting is really bad at my job. I literally have to ask my boss what is going on around there because he doesn’t say to much to me. He is such an asshole.
Every boss that has ever fired me was always shocked and confused on why I didnt care.
Simple there is always another job for a low end worker. It built me up to be a trucker where now i am a big demand
You are spot on. Obviously, you know what you are talking about. Unfortunately, I think too many firings (not all) are due to office politics or the employee doesn't "fit in". Sometimes capable workers lose their jobs leaving a hole in a department or organization that can't be filled with available talent. That is why every company has at least one or two employees that are incompetent but never get fired and why getting fired should not be a stigma for most people.
Im tellign you the ones that dont fit in be the best workers.
They shouldn’t fire someone for not fitting in especially if that employee dose there job really well. That just shows everyone your all about favourites and it’s not right. You don’t have to like your coworkers but you should be able to at least work together. So many jobs I’ve been at I could easily see that favourites and it’s just wrong
Unless you have a great severance package coming and want to wait for it, just start looking for your next job immediately.
And.... When you realize getting fired is eminent..... RESIGN. It's easier to lie about why you resigned from a job during an interview. It's much harder to give a good answer to why you were fired. Because whenever you hear that someone was fired... First thing that pops into mind is that they were fired due to non performance... Which might not be the case
You don't ever have to say you were fired. The only legal way is if you tell them. Always be looking for a new job. If they do fire you for "performance" reasons, that is not justified under unemployment law. Every time a claim gets awarded against an employer their tax burden contribution to unemployment goes up.
If it is minimum wage job or low-paying job period, you could be let go at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. It doesn't matter how much hard work you put into the company.
Is this the case for all low wage jobs?
@@kinga9356 🤣
A lot of these companies you describe that are low wage, they don't care about you one bit when they try to claim they do care. They just don't give a shit.
Most of the time I'm a Loner when I work I don't bother with anybody. I go in I said hello. And I learn this from my stepfather who owned the company in New Jersey. He didn't want me getting too friendly with the employees in case he had to let someone go. And the one thing that was good about my stepfather didn't get too involved with the employees that he had under him. God Rest Your Soul miss you.
THANK. YOU. MA'AM! MY EXACT EXPERIENCE! I went from top performer & being rewarded with a huge raise and bonus only to be fired a year later after I wasn't given ANY sort of promotion for the EXACT same job/work/time that they promoted someone else for. I was the only black person under that new manager. ...I'm just saying. If it looks like a duck it's probably not a cow.
We need to call racism what it is. Let me guess, they also posts blacks squares on the social and pretend DEI is a priority 🙄🤦🏼♀️
That last part you said was funny.
@@seann54 yes😂😂😂
When you enter into any new job, the first possible hint of a sign you might get fired is if your supervisor is of a different race or ethnicity than you.
omg this happened to me except i was the token asian
Another sign for a LOT of companies is simply that you are getting older. Employers are getting rid of older workers.
How old is older 😢😢😢 I’m 33 😢😢😢😢
@@socrates936depends on your salary
@@socrates936retirement age
@@socrates936 40
my boss walked by while I was watching this video and fired me :(
He always wanted to
😳😳😳😳
Were you on a break or watching TH-cam company time?
With my experiences most of the issues a person experiences are within the work-place. It's a heaven for drama, narcissism and sociopaths and you cant exactly walk away right when you feel like it.
Some people are just real good at their job and they focus on job related issues, other people are really good at focusing on fellow employees which causes problems.
I feel this way, you go to work to go to work, not to be in the business of the people you work with.
This is so true.
I went to work to work. The days that were supposed to be casual were never verbalized to me so when I showed up dressed professionally, as usual, I was supposed to put a polo shirt over top of my dress. (?!) The rest of that day I found an office to work in with the doors closed. (they didn't like that)
The following week, I quit.
Years ago - every one at my Dad's work was given a Turkey for Christmas - except him. They offered no explanation. They waited for after Christmas to lay him off....nice people!
I was recently fired from my toxic job for not being a cultural fit after working there for 3 years. I thought it was funny because I was planning on putting in my 2 weeks notice anyway.
Hope you got your unemployment benefits.
Same thing was gonna happen to me but I was fast and smarter than my manager and I resigned before getting fired. But as u know karma is real, after a month, he got fired
PIP is a huge warning sign.
Thanks for your constructive advice Jennifer. I’ve had a gut feeling for months, but my husband thinks I’m making too much of it. I know and trust my intuition since it’s hardly ever failed me.
I had a manager who left bad reviews on all of us at the same time for mistakes she committed. All of us left almost at the same time
I was always getting pulled into the office. Yet, I was a worker who was experienced and competent in what I did, I never quite understood why this happened
This is me. Today I’m being pulled into another meeting. Probably my last. 🙂
Read Rory millers conflict communication book
I got fired so many times I can just sense it coming now
I know someone who was fired in such a toxic way after being employed at the same place for years. It was crushing, and downright mean. Part of it was her age, sadly. They wanted a young new person they could pay less. Fine way to be welcomed into retirement.
When a manager that never gave a F about all of a sudden start checking on you “concerned” about your performance. Trust your gut, when something is off about the atmospherics go into CYA mode. Start documenting everything. If legal in your state start recording conversations with managers. HR pooped bricks when I implied I had recorded convos with a toxic manager. Lastly, go find an employment lawyer. It was worth the money in the end.
Had a feeling was getting fired and just left instead. Two years later made more money working on my own than I ever did working for them. These companies don’t care about employees anymore so it’s best to work to get a living where you can have money to work on your own in the future
"Friendships" with coworkers is an oxy moron... however most people actually DO think they're your friends at work. Even when they aren't. Mental gymnastics are funny.
Just another good reason to never ever work for anyone but yourself.
Def the right choice for some people!
I get that some folks in some fields can indeed find a good employer but that's few and far between.
I'm happy for them but they are indeed the minority
That’s the goal 🥅.
@Alpha Omega it's called effort.
@Alpha Omega working for yourself doesn't have to mean starting a business. It can be free lancing, substitute teaching, anything where you decide the hours.
Jennifer presents really good facts in this video, I've lived a number of things she describes. Another is when your co-worker/rival at work forms an inseparable "bromance" with the boss. They start acting like they're in love and you're the third wheel.
I mean I got fired for being "too attractive/pretty" the female manager couldn't put up with me having that kind of attention.... Truly toxic indeed smh 🙄
Same.
I got that when I was younger. Plus I am not a super outgoing person to boot. So women take that as snobby.
Jealous older female bosses are awful!
You are so pretty. If I was a woman I would fire your ass too. Lol.
Female managers are not it ,gossip , petty and fake. i got fired two times in my life and they are both female managers. companies that i worked for more than three years are men. Males usually are more “open minded” and “direct” , I made a lot of mistakes and he called me out but he pushed me to do good and I eventually did, female managers that i dealt with are fake, i ask them for feedbacks they say “dont stress too much about it” and then gossip when you make mistakes 😂
Cold shoulder from the the management team is the main indicator I have seen. Also keep an eye on your boss's body language. Lack of eye contact being the biggest one. Daily communication will also dry up. Your boss will seem embarrassed or generally uncomfortable in your presence. The decision to get rid of you may be made several weeks in advance of the actual firing. Once that decision has been made you have become irrelevant to the company and basically dead to your boss. in my experience the signs are pretty obvious and unless your boss is a trained actor or a sociopath you will be able to see it coming even if there has been no paper trail or verbal warning.
Yeah my supervisor was showing alot of signs and she had attitude behind it. There were times I wanted to report a retaliation case on her, but thought maybe I was overthinking it in fearing losing my job. But yeah the 1st thing I noticed was my hours were being scruffed even when we had payroll to spare b/c she was asking other part timers to stay longer, but wouldn't ask me. Then she assigned different ppl to do my job and they wouldn't even finish it.... go fking figure. Anyway I was on my final warning during those times and now they fired me b/c I overslept lol I still came to work only to get the last bit of hours I could grab b4 the sendoff. Oh well Fuck Target.
You get the silent treatment from the boss, and when they speak to you it is in an almost silent tone of voice.
Then if you are paid hourly, they only give you enough hours to cover the cost of your benefits and payroll deductions resulting in a paycheck for $0.00. I saw this happen to people in the workforce over the years working before they were fired. It then happened to me, and I was already prepared because I had already updated my resume. Then I found another job three days later, and gave them my two week notice before they could fire me.
Another trick I have seen pulled is your weekly hours are cut so drastically, and they only give you three or four hours for the entire week.
Hourly paid employees may also notice everyone's hours getting cut. Then they give you the excuse that corporate wants us to schedule people for fewer hours, and to call them in if we need the help. Then when this happens, when you go to work there are people working who are not on the schedule. They do it because they want you to believe everyone has been cut but they never call you in. The other employees hours were not cut when they were called in, and their weekly hours are still the same. It just doesn't show up on the schedule. 12:36
I was put on a PIP within a month of my new manager starting. That's how I knew I was being targeted. She wasn't there long enough to know how well I performed.
If they cut your hours back, that is a good sign they trying to push you out or you just leave due to the lck of full hours
Depending on the job. If it's just you then I guess. I worked for a company our hrs were cut down to 30 per week( entire dpt)
If you are hourly, they cut your hours back so much that the hours they end up giving you are only enough hours to cover the payroll deductions, and benefit deductions so you end up with a paycheck that is for $0.00.
This is a really great video, EVERYONE IN ANY JOB should see this, especially if you work in an office environment. She is describing to a T the dysfunctional culture and setting of an office where knowing how to "play ball" and navigating the politics of the office is absolutely crucial. I wish I had seen this in my younger days, I would've saved myself a lot of anguish. My small piece of advice - as much as possible, try make yourself inexpendable in some what or manner for as long as possible while crafting your backup plan and eventual exit.
Facts.
I have been in this situation. I sought help from an employment attorney early in the process when I felt the situation becoming more and more toxic
It is well worth it and they can direct you in steps that needed to be taken ASAP
I wish that I had seen this video years ago when it happened to me. These points are spot on, but the tricky thing about these scenarios is that, if you're a person who is really pressed to be successful and "win", you really try to make things work, not realizing that it is an unwinnable situation. When you're going through it, the gaslighting can really do a number on your awareness and ability to trust your gut. Unfortunately, I fell for the "perfect professional" professional advice when I entered the workforce, and wasn't aware of the reality of the corporate world.
You are so right! Wanting to remain vigilant and do good work no matter what is a hard habit to break. In the long run we can end up at the wrong place for a longer period of time than we needed. Once my husband said to me:
"It will NEVER get better." I had an aha moment and realized the truth to the matter. It was never, ever, going to get better. So I left.
@@1Wendy_Woo This has been my experience too and I agree with your husband. I tried to stick it out through a toxic boss and then realized, this is NOT going to get better. The boss hated me and anyone else that was there before he was. He slowly pressured each one of us either into retirement or other jobs
Same..
What I did was I took him to the court . Since he had so much time to find problems with me, we had hearing and they had to hire attorney to fight . They won but for me I just showed him not to mess with me . I found a better job after that . I am a good person so I don't have a hard time getting a job .
Sorry that you had to go through this, it really sucks when good people get the rough end of the stick while these toxic creatures seem to be rewarded for their lies and turning people's lives upside down.
If you are an older employee, these signs can be used to force your retirement. Even if you are performing well.
i'm over 50 and dealing with this! it sucks! they want the old people gone!
There is negative feedback from the start. It’s part of the training I’m getting. My supervisor didn’t even want me to get an interview said I was overqualified and then the owner got ahold of my resume and wanted to interview me. My training hadn’t been very good and I’m told on the one hand to give it months before I get everything and on the other telling me to go fast and frowning in me taking notes. I’m told in a daily basis about my mistakes by either my supervisor or other senior employees that are a good 20 years younger and one in particular doesn’t like me. 😞 it’s a small business and I really need full time work. My living situation is also difficult. I’m trying to reinvent my life but I seem to be hitting speed bumps. Just wanted to vent, thanks for listening since I have no one to talk about this with
I was given a Performance Improvement Plan...then I was told to "not think of this as negative"! I was already looking for other jobs at the time.
The big flag I should have paid more attention to was when they decided to bring in a consultant. This person started proposing a solution that I pointed out had some technical flaws and I think that pretty much sealed the deal. Besides unreasonable work load for a team of 5 and moving the goal posts constantly. I was actually relieved when they called me in that Monday to tell me I was done there. It was a pretty toxic environment, plus there weren't even windows in the office area where I worked - it was like working in a cave. Now 2 months later I'm about to start a new gig with +20% higher pay.
I had a company fire me for having a disability. Too bad I didn't have that on tape.
You should’ve also added change of bosses. When I was younger the boss that hired me died and someone took his place that didn’t like me and I was let go because he wanted a relative of his to take my job. Now companies are sold all the time and employees are fired because they aren’t needed or they contract the jobs out to a different area. Many times this comes as a surprise because they assure the employees they’ll still have a job. One of “The Office” series went into this as the manager was told to fire a retain amount of employees.
Omg this video hit on so many keys points .
Being set up to fail. My last job my boss gave me the part of the job she didn’t know how to do. Because she didn’t know she was responsible for it. Next, the nit picking . Bosses like this you can do no right. Last, when you boss cancels one on ones Is a big red flag
That's a good add - disappearing one on ones with your boss and if you have them with their boss too... definitely red flag unless there is a reason like travel or emergency.
One One cancelled isn't always a sign at least for me. My SUP cancelled and rescheduled many times. Am still with the company.
A lot of this happened to me in my first job and the boss one day came in told me "we both know this is not going well" and I was like wut? And that's how I got fired.
Lol
Beware when your work runs out. When your CEO changes, quits, gets pushed out. When your company merges. Beware of corporate scandals - job loss is on its way.
My god... it's like you use to work at UPS. This is exactly what they'd do to PT Sups.
The paper trails. The setting you up for failure. The constant ridicule and asking when you will resign already. They will even let their favorite employees get away with coming to your area, harass you with refusal to stop or do work. And vandalize you car.
And all the drama starts the moment you get a complaint about you sent to HR. You were doing just fine your whole career until that happened.
That is horrific if they let a employee harass you and vandalize your property!
@@JenniferBrick yeah, I even tried raising multiple complaints. And he said “yeah I know he’s bullying you. But I’m not gonna get involved. Instead. I want you to prove him wrong. By overcoming it. And running your area with 100% efficiency. But it’s hard changing someone’s mind when they’ve already made it. That and the sort for my area kept changing every week. Having to swap out the labels. Memorizing all the zip codes for the state. Him making my area twice as big. Writing me up for almost running out of labels. Even when he told me not to print out too many. And I rolled with the punches for as long as I could. I could go on all day about the things they have done to me.
I walked out on that job. After years of commitment and dedication. And he laughed me out the door. All because I didn’t have the tools to combat against the harassment back then.
I’m a PT sup at UPS and can definitely vouch for this type of behavior. It happens but they try to get away with it because you’re “non union” and gotta do everything your boss tells you to do at the exact time they want it done while you’re doing other things