I'm always a fan of having a Plan B lined up (even when you're not worried about being laid off or fired and you're in a job you love and not a toxic AF job). Do you have a plan B (or have you updated your resume and LinkedIn)?
Three resumes in 9 months. I'm kicking them out by the quarter and as I learn better resume skills. I am going to go through my linked-in profile if my current interview doesn't come through. I'm not big on interviewing widely but may have to learn.
Some of my best friends were co-workers and we've remained friends even after leaving the horrible jobs we met at. If you can't or choose not to make friends at work, it will be miserable by default. Some of your best opportunities can come from friends, you never know where they may go in life and they might want you to work with them. It's like the old term they used to use "Networking".
This is the absolute truth! My boss was so toxic that I would grind my teeth (unconsciously) until my jaws would ache. Finally, I was fired and relief just washed all over me. I was actually twirling in the parking lot and couldn't quit smiling. The very next day I was hired by another company that I love AT DOUBLE THE PAY. I would call that a blessing.
Me too. I worked for a small restaurant for 14 years. I got my degree and plenty of certifications and built up a nice cushion . But they closed a week after the lock downs. I went to work for a large corporation and it was definitely like experiencing hell on earth. Not sure where else I'll be working at next.
Same. I work in aerospace and after working so hard to get where I am, I recently came to the realization that I no longer want to punch a clock at all regardless of the field. Currently working on my several streams of income so I can call it quits
Sometimes being unjustly fired from a job turns out to be a blessing in disguise because it opens the door to a better opportunity to a more rewarding job.
This is so true! I got “suspended” for a week which turned into my employer ignoring me the next week when I wanted to come back to work, anyway a week later I found a job that pays 30 an hour which is way better than before
I got fired from my accounting job and I knew it was coming. I dreaded going to work, knowing that no matter what I did, I was going to screw up. It was a good firm, I just was not a good accountant. I was there for 5 months and they gave me 2 mid term evaluations that were not great. Now I'm a math teacher and I am where I belong and im happier.
I was unceremoniously fired from my remote analytics job 2 months after my 3 month probationary period was over (and the friend who got me the job received his bonus from recommending me.) Ha ha, I mistakenly thought I was "home free" after the 3 month probation. Live and learn.
The way your co workers behave is a massive indicator, they’ll lose respect and distance themselves. This means they know you have fallen out of favour with the boss.
A lot of times coworkers ARE the reason you are getting fired. They don't like/don't respect you and then bad mouth you behind your back. You have to Grey rock coworkers. They are not your friends.
@nathanlovik1753 Keep your distance, don't gossip or give them any information they can use against you. The workplace is competitive, and people love a take down. You must be self-sufficient, that way, you can remain at a distance. Don't be too aloof, this will also make you a target, you must play the social game it's the only way to survive, find the balance but never get comfortable!
@@Classicbeauty857 The way to be aloof without appearing to be aloof and alienating people is to have interests nobody else has, and which they therefore will not want to discuss but aren't too weird. For example, if coworkers ask about hobbies I'll say coin or stamp collecting. Absolutely, nobody under the age of 65 is interested in those things and the conversation ends there. I don't do either but no one ever pursues it.
Culture fit for most corporations = we're looking for a carbon copy of us and individuality is frowned upon but we still want diversity points on LinkedIn so we'll hire a "diverse" person once in a blue moon and post about it. We're so woke.
Yep! I've always wondered why that is ? I always feel like a square peg in a round hole in most companies I've worked for. It's crazy. I've just started a new job. Not even a month in, I'm already thinking of leaving. It's just toxic AF. Plus I have zero in common with all my co workers. I'm way too much of an individual for these assholes that's for sure.
@@jeff6413 That is exactly it, Jeff, it's a "politically correct" phrasing to mask actual discrimination. They can reject your application citing lack of cultural fit even if the real reason is different and no one questions it.
I’ve also learned it’s better for the entire team to be wrong then you being the only person who was right. You have to have a beehive mentality. Humans can be so annoying in packs but I guess I get it 🙄
Not necessarily. At my job, we all put important documents into a shared folder. What if the sole keeper of the documents quits? What if he/she goes on vacation or disability?
If they're going to fire you, they will do it. There is no standard when it comes to firing people in the U.S. I have never been fired for work performance. I have only ever been fired for personal reasons. Typically when I speak the truth or stand up for others, that's more than enough to get fired. Workers need more protections because these companies know they have all the power and flex it any chance they get.
I included in quotation marks the language of my employment. Which was At-Will. They could fire me whenever, for whatever, without warning or true cause. I wanted to let them know I felt the same way. No two week notice. Just taped my resignation letter to the front door, told the boss I was going for lunch, and went home. I didn't get a text or phone call from boss or colleague until over 2.5 hours later. 😃 That should tell you something. (only 3 of us were on that day)
In the state of California it is illegal to terminate someone's employment for speaking up on behalf of someone belonging to a protected class. Even with at will employment in the contract.
Another thing. Kind of falls under setting up to fail. But getting picked on for things that are less than everyone else in the workplace gets away with.
He does not reply to your steraight forward questions in emails. For example, mine was about priorities...no reply. "I did that on purpose, I wanted to see what you were going to do there."....
@@DanTheManIOM will mind usually ignore my emails. I don't know different field you're in I guess. This is all of us though. They ignored mine I ignored theirs too.
So true! All because I wasn’t a gossip. I didn’t fit in with their mess. She saw that I was a strong person and a good quick learner. Therefore she never wanted to train me. She was a very unprofessional messy manager. The company was an “at Will” company so I didn’t fight. I was fired. I just walked away. Sometimes all you can do it pray for people and let God be the final judge. God will compensate. She was very toxic and it had nothing to do with the work. Walking out of there was a blessing and a relief. All the injustices that happened will be taking care of by Karma.
I had a job where my perfect performance review dropped to rock bottom. I asked my supervisor what was going on, she *_knew_* that the scores were bogus and I asked her to just be straight with me on whether or not I was going to be fired or not. She knew I didn't deserve to be fired, but they needed to show that I was fired for cause. I said enough with the games and took my report to the department head. Wrote "LIES" on the paperwork, made a copy of it and then told the department head "If you want to fire me, just do it." So he did. I just walked out, leaving almost nothing at my desk. When the supervisor took my side in the unemployment hearing I was frankly shocked. After the hearing though, she said she had already got another job and that if they could do what they did to me, they would do it to anyone, so she started looking for another job the day of my review. I was touched that someone would have my back like that. In the years since that, I have been very attuned to dysfunctional work environments, and I never stay there for long. I am so glad that I am retired now and no longer have to deal with the utterly toxic work environment that exists in America today. To everyone who is working, Look for a job that makes you happy, and work with coworkers that you enjoy being around. Life is too short to be playing stupid employment games.
The last paragraph is so true. Getting my first "legit" job after just recently graduating from college and it's the exact department within engineering I wanted and one I did 4 out of my 5 rotations with said department during college. The two reasons I accepted the offer without hesitations was I love the work (%95 of the time) and enjoy working with everyone from the department.
This is so accurate. Having been laid off multiple times (sometimes it’s just downsizing, budget cuts, whatever) it’s almost worse when you see the signs and know what’s coming. We really need better job protection laws, including mandatory on-boarding periods, and punishing supervisors for lack of training and setting people up to fail. 🤬
I was on the verge of ending myself if I could have recorded my situation....nothing happened except the Asst Director just walked in one morning and said goodbye...I asked why bc there were never any meeting, no write ups, no warnings of any kind. No micromanaging and all of these other indicators Jennifer mentioned. I never even received not even one termination paper to sign. It was so unfair to me and unprofessional of the. I know I was the only one without a tattoo, only non-smoker, and without a nose ring, 😅
A better title for this video is - Quit before you are fired/laid off and here are the cues. Leaving before the 💩 hits the fan will give you a better chance of getting a better role and not leave you in a bad spot.
Sometimes. If you're terminated sometimes you can collect unemployment (depending on where you live); also depending on the role and company you might get a severance package. In lieu of those though, it is easier to explain quitting vs getting fired in interviews (though I don't think getting fired is a big deal and it's easy to explain).
@@JenniferBrick Great point. But sometimes nasty managers can bash you in a HR-code to potential employees. That may negate the little unemployment 💵 you get. But they won’t get that chance if still employed and look for a new role. Personally, If I feel disrespected or my manager is a petty person and vile; I don’t risk it and I start looking for a new role.
As you should! All of these signs, even if they don't end in termination, show the workplace is dysfunctional. There are so many opportunities out there, might as well pursue something with a better company, right?
@@JenniferBrick It's weird. Mid-management and lower: Being fired is a black mark on your record, making getting hired much more difficult. Really, it is. Many hiring companies don't care what the reason was for your firing, just that you were fired in the first place. On the other hand, in upper management, getting fired is a badge of honor, as it means that you were willing to take risks (that just simply didn't pan out).
I once had a boss send me an email saying he was concerned about my performance (which was absolute hogwash, and I replied to the email with proof that I had already briefed him on all these issues and they were already resolved). He even agreed after a meeting that all his concerns were alleviated. That was my first clue he was going to fire me in a shady way, and sure enough, just a few weeks later they did fire me super shady like. Don't have any loyalty to a business. They sure as hell have zero loyalty to you.
Recap: 1. You start to get nitpicky negative feedback. 2. Work gets reassigned to other people when it normally would be assigned to you. 3. Red Alert: Your manager starts taking a lot of notes and doing a lot of summary, follow-up emails. Reply to clarify what they got wrong and what you've done. For your own records. 4. You're set up to fail. You're given a huge project with not enough time. 5. Relationships with people at work start being distant. Work friends might start to distance themselves from you. 6. You're put on a Performance Improvement Plan. Ask yourself if it's structured to help you succeed or setting you up to fail? 7. Gut feeling. Bonus: Be prepared. Build confidence because losing a job can major hit.
This is so true. Actually where I have worked before there's always the sign that the boss stops giving you tasks and stops inviting you to the meetings. Great video!
@@JenniferBrick Yes. For a few years, my load calendar was over-filled and I had to learn told to "build capacity." Even tho, I already worked longer hours than anyone on the team. Then, my boss got expanded responsibility and put me under my co-worker. The workload lessened under this new supervisor, which I thought was good but then I got written up.
If you feel they are planning to fire you, just start burning sick and pto. Look for another job and do the bare minimum. No need to over work yourself.
My last employer did all these things exactly how you described them. I’m grateful I knew what was going on and was able to submit my resignation letter before they were able to formally fire me.
Especially the faux diverse point at my last job. Being the only male working in my entire building (I work in nursing) you would’ve thought that my company would want to keep me around. Nope, it was like I was always looked at under a microscope and little mistakes such as misspelling words when documenting were blown way out of proportion.
so much anxiety from this video because I had experienced most of these signs in my last job. my boss treated me like this and it was horrible. I'm at a completely different company now and the difference between treatment is night and day. know what you're worth and leave that toxicity!
"Being set up to fail" happened to me. :) I ran a group that provided internal services and relied on volunteers from other parts of the company for staff. The VP I reported to engineered one of the key sources of staff withdrawing from my group. The only notice I ever got of this was when my peer, that I coordinated with, informed me they were withdrawing. They had legitimate concerns but they could have been addressed. VP knew about the whole situation, knew there were issues that could have been addressed, but never once informed me. I found out months later that he had facilitated the mortal wounding of my group. Watch your back out there, friends. Companies do not reward loyalty. Your colleagues at work are not your friends.
I had this happen to me. I believe corporate made my boss fill a new subordinate position he did not want. Gave me minimal training and wouldn't answer questions. I should have been suspicious in the interview when he told me I was smart and he had confidence I would figure things out. At the end he started criticizing my work and would not explain exactly what I was doing wrong. The job lasted 9 months. I started looking at the 6 month mark. I only stayed because I had a young daughter.
Increased level of micromanaging by your direct supervisor is a big hint. Being set up to fail is common. Organizations set up a paper trail when all these occur. Leaving is prudent.
The paper trail is important. This has happened to me twice and in both situations, they were caught off guard when it was discovered that I had heavy documentation against them. I think I spooked one employer because my documentation was so spot on that you could find the evidence in one of our systems to back it up and that was information that just could not vanish. This is why I will finish my Master's in History early next year and look to remote history jobs. I'm already working towards Plan B.
I recently got laid off and there were some clear signs I picked up on but tried to brush off as purely paranoia before I got the news. 1. Work that was supposed to come my way suddenly wasn't talked about anymore, 2. Manager's disinterest in what I was doing, 3. Manager saying "oh you don't have to be in that cross-departmental meeting if you can't make it", 4. "we're prioritizing our efforts and focusing only on what moves the needle" and 5. the worst of all, being asked to compile my working assets on the company's drive "so people can have easy access and don't have to ask you for it" (I'm a designer). All of that along with a random 1:1 with the manager set up on a Friday afternoon a week in advance. Like I said, I picked up on these, but wanted to believe it was just paranoia. When I logged in to that meeting and saw that the company's commercial director was also in the call, I knew right away it was over.
I worked in a very toxic environment where my bosses were gas lighting me. I knew I was being set up to be fired. I left before they had that opportunity.
Gaslighting is really bad at my job. I literally have to ask my boss what is going on around there because he doesn’t say to much to me. He is such an asshole.
I got fired today. It’s been leading up for months ever since I first stood up for myself. It was a full on slash in the amount of inclusion in important meetings and info after that. I was continually being given impossible tasks outside of my work title without any training and expected to figure it out. I was told I was going to promoted in the first month I started, and start being trained, yet I started doing the new position + my current one. Literally at the bottom of the pyramid while still doinv jobs that were 2 positions above me + any IT work. I was a receptionist yall. Doing. IT. Work. To make it better, a toxic co worker was involved, totally taking away any good i did do. Micromanaging me, completely going over what I did but in the most random way like I would open a box of face masks and she would come around the corner and fold the corners differently. So odd. She would slam doors or call me stupid when I told her that I didn’t need help nicely. I would bring it to my boss’s attention and was told “it was just her personality” “she had a hard week” I went in and did my all everyday, but a month ago was told to recreate the book that gave directions on what my job was to do. I re wrote everything, finally thinking I was getting recognition. I wish that I would have realized I was creating the new training book for the person who’d replace me. A week ago, was my breaking point. I was told I wasn’t working urgently or hard enough. I cried, the boss also attacked my parenting & personal life. Over the weekend I fully prepared to be fired. Today we met again, she asked what She could do differently, i told her. She argued, interrupted, was shaking and trying to defend everything I had said with little actual proof. She told me to start looking for a new job so that she didn’t fire me and i couldn get unemployment. I said i was there to do my job and wouldn’t quit. After while, she was approved to let me go. I didn’t cry one bit this morning until I carried all my stuff to my car and dropped my strawberries then the tears starting flowing. The worst part of being fired is feeling so disposable. She told me to my face she doesn’t care about her employees she cared about the profit for the company.
That's sad! Was she vaccinated for COVID? Sorry but vaccinated people for COVID are loosing their marbles and becoming very mean and evil! Good luck on finding a better job with better people!
I hope you documented all the harrasment and retaliation(which is illegal) that you suffered for speaking up, if yes, time for a lawsuit😁😁 this hurts the most to companies
If your employer want to fire you, they will, what you can do is start looking for new job. it's not going to be a friendly environment anymore anyway..
And.... When you realize getting fired is eminent..... RESIGN. It's easier to lie about why you resigned from a job during an interview. It's much harder to give a good answer to why you were fired. Because whenever you hear that someone was fired... First thing that pops into mind is that they were fired due to non performance... Which might not be the case
You don't ever have to say you were fired. The only legal way is if you tell them. Always be looking for a new job. If they do fire you for "performance" reasons, that is not justified under unemployment law. Every time a claim gets awarded against an employer their tax burden contribution to unemployment goes up.
I have kept a paper trail and prove my point professionally and tactfully. They showed me the door. If you get a feeling that someone is trying to fire you, find another job and leave.
Thanks for your constructive advice Jennifer. I’ve had a gut feeling for months, but my husband thinks I’m making too much of it. I know and trust my intuition since it’s hardly ever failed me.
I mean I got fired for being "too attractive/pretty" the female manager couldn't put up with me having that kind of attention.... Truly toxic indeed smh 🙄
Female managers are not it ,gossip , petty and fake. i got fired two times in my life and they are both female managers. companies that i worked for more than three years are men. Males usually are more “open minded” and “direct” , I made a lot of mistakes and he called me out but he pushed me to do good and I eventually did, female managers that i dealt with are fake, i ask them for feedbacks they say “dont stress too much about it” and then gossip when you make mistakes 😂
I was always getting pulled into the office. Yet, I was a worker who was experienced and competent in what I did, I never quite understood why this happened
If it is minimum wage job or low-paying job period, you could be let go at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. It doesn't matter how much hard work you put into the company.
A lot of these companies you describe that are low wage, they don't care about you one bit when they try to claim they do care. They just don't give a shit.
With my experiences most of the issues a person experiences are within the work-place. It's a heaven for drama, narcissism and sociopaths and you cant exactly walk away right when you feel like it. Some people are just real good at their job and they focus on job related issues, other people are really good at focusing on fellow employees which causes problems. I feel this way, you go to work to go to work, not to be in the business of the people you work with.
I went to work to work. The days that were supposed to be casual were never verbalized to me so when I showed up dressed professionally, as usual, I was supposed to put a polo shirt over top of my dress. (?!) The rest of that day I found an office to work in with the doors closed. (they didn't like that) The following week, I quit.
Every boss that has ever fired me was always shocked and confused on why I didnt care. Simple there is always another job for a low end worker. It built me up to be a trucker where now i am a big demand
Most of the time I'm a Loner when I work I don't bother with anybody. I go in I said hello. And I learn this from my stepfather who owned the company in New Jersey. He didn't want me getting too friendly with the employees in case he had to let someone go. And the one thing that was good about my stepfather didn't get too involved with the employees that he had under him. God Rest Your Soul miss you.
When a manager that never gave a F about all of a sudden start checking on you “concerned” about your performance. Trust your gut, when something is off about the atmospherics go into CYA mode. Start documenting everything. If legal in your state start recording conversations with managers. HR pooped bricks when I implied I had recorded convos with a toxic manager. Lastly, go find an employment lawyer. It was worth the money in the end.
If you are hourly, they cut your hours back so much that the hours they end up giving you are only enough hours to cover the payroll deductions, and benefit deductions so you end up with a paycheck that is for $0.00.
"Friendships" with coworkers is an oxy moron... however most people actually DO think they're your friends at work. Even when they aren't. Mental gymnastics are funny.
Had a feeling was getting fired and just left instead. Two years later made more money working on my own than I ever did working for them. These companies don’t care about employees anymore so it’s best to work to get a living where you can have money to work on your own in the future
A dead giveaway that you are about to be fired from a toxic workplace is when everyone seems to have a running joke that you're not in on. All your co-workers know you're about to be fired and want to stick around for the show, the only thing worse is when smart arse customers are sitting around with a big smirk on their faces and you're about to be fired in front of them.
All these signs are so on point. And I am so glad you touched on the topic of confidence. This exactly happened to me and from day 1 I had a funny feeling with the team! Also I think instead of waiting for the other person to start a paper trail I would suggest EVERYONE no matter what should have a paper trail. You never know!
My god... it's like you use to work at UPS. This is exactly what they'd do to PT Sups. The paper trails. The setting you up for failure. The constant ridicule and asking when you will resign already. They will even let their favorite employees get away with coming to your area, harass you with refusal to stop or do work. And vandalize you car. And all the drama starts the moment you get a complaint about you sent to HR. You were doing just fine your whole career until that happened.
@@JenniferBrick yeah, I even tried raising multiple complaints. And he said “yeah I know he’s bullying you. But I’m not gonna get involved. Instead. I want you to prove him wrong. By overcoming it. And running your area with 100% efficiency. But it’s hard changing someone’s mind when they’ve already made it. That and the sort for my area kept changing every week. Having to swap out the labels. Memorizing all the zip codes for the state. Him making my area twice as big. Writing me up for almost running out of labels. Even when he told me not to print out too many. And I rolled with the punches for as long as I could. I could go on all day about the things they have done to me. I walked out on that job. After years of commitment and dedication. And he laughed me out the door. All because I didn’t have the tools to combat against the harassment back then.
I’m a PT sup at UPS and can definitely vouch for this type of behavior. It happens but they try to get away with it because you’re “non union” and gotta do everything your boss tells you to do at the exact time they want it done while you’re doing other things
Omg this video hit on so many keys points . Being set up to fail. My last job my boss gave me the part of the job she didn’t know how to do. Because she didn’t know she was responsible for it. Next, the nit picking . Bosses like this you can do no right. Last, when you boss cancels one on ones Is a big red flag
That's a good add - disappearing one on ones with your boss and if you have them with their boss too... definitely red flag unless there is a reason like travel or emergency.
You should’ve also added change of bosses. When I was younger the boss that hired me died and someone took his place that didn’t like me and I was let go because he wanted a relative of his to take my job. Now companies are sold all the time and employees are fired because they aren’t needed or they contract the jobs out to a different area. Many times this comes as a surprise because they assure the employees they’ll still have a job. One of “The Office” series went into this as the manager was told to fire a retain amount of employees.
One bad sign I’m seeing lately is the company hiring offshore people. My company has been doing that a lot lately sadly. They have full time employees start training offshore staff and eventually have those offshore employees completely take over the team to have cheaper labor and not pay insurance.
My uncle managed a department in a retail store: they praised his leadership and effectiveness when giving him an assistant. He took the bright young man under his wing, cultivated him, taught him the ropes. Some months later that bright young man had my uncle's job, working for a far junior salary. -It's been a while: I wonder if the new guy ever "got an assistant"?
There was another co worker in the same department as myself with the same first name. I was being blamed for things I had no idea about, that I wasn't even involved in. The people who were blaming me were never questioned as to if they were blaming the right person. I'll take the blame if I do something wrong, but not other people's mistakes.
There is negative feedback from the start. It’s part of the training I’m getting. My supervisor didn’t even want me to get an interview said I was overqualified and then the owner got ahold of my resume and wanted to interview me. My training hadn’t been very good and I’m told on the one hand to give it months before I get everything and on the other telling me to go fast and frowning in me taking notes. I’m told in a daily basis about my mistakes by either my supervisor or other senior employees that are a good 20 years younger and one in particular doesn’t like me. 😞 it’s a small business and I really need full time work. My living situation is also difficult. I’m trying to reinvent my life but I seem to be hitting speed bumps. Just wanted to vent, thanks for listening since I have no one to talk about this with
A lot of this happened to me in my first job and the boss one day came in told me "we both know this is not going well" and I was like wut? And that's how I got fired.
Awesome video! Exactlfy what I have experienced! They were also other workers involved, like being ganged up on. I was doing the same thing at a level of excellence for over a decade, all of a sudden I became sub-par. Ultimately they did me a favor. Once I got out of that environment, I I was able to see what I was worth and getting compensated for it. I haven't looked for a job in years, they look for me.
Currently working at a place where I’m being set up to fail. The person training me left(she was the only one left in the department), which leaves me, the new person, running a whole department by myself. Because I’m now the only one there, I’m answering customer questions that I don’t know the answer to, completing tasks I’m not fully trained on, and helping new people when I’m new myself. I’m supposed to be the assistant, so I’m being under paid for the extra work I’m doing and of course anytime something is wrong, I’m getting in trouble. I’m not sure if I should wait until I have another job or just jump ship now.
For sure a classical one is documentation. "Suddenly" your boss thinks that documenting your work takes priority over everything else. I recall asking a former boss for a specific project that would build some skills but he immediately said that documenting what I was working on took precedence. Sure enough, I was laid off less than two months later.
I knew the writing was on the wall when my boss called me into the office to say "according to this file you haven't opened any customer accounts..." Bare in mind I work in the warehouse, away from the customers.
I was on a PIP with a sales job. It was more a micromanagement plan. I'm not cut out for sales, I'm pretty good at moving freight and it better suits me
I had this, in the UK I call it as being 'managed' out the business. My advice is two fold, firstly start looking for a new job and secondly start gathering any evidence you can to try and support how you are being treated. I did this and I ended up resigning under a 'none disclosure ' agreement. I felt better as it gave me enough money to pay off my mortgage. The company also went bust about 3 years later, this was bitter sweet for me as a lot of good people lost their jobs who didn't deserve that. If it is happening to you, step back and think what you can do to protect and improve your position, good luck👍👍
Most of these are good signs they want you to quit so you don't get unemployment insurance . The record keeping is so they can deny you if you don't quit. That's when you keep your own records . Daily ! Keep records of everything . Schedules , work assignments . That way after you get denied . Youll get a judge to award you unemployment and you can sue for discrimination.
I live in NC. We are a "at will" state. Basically meaning the employer or employee can walk in and basically say "your fired" or "I quit" with no explanation needed.
Video request: How to have older co-workers stop imparting wisdom, mentoring me, knit-picking, and providing their micromanaging recommendations- unsolicited. Help!
I knew I was about to get fired seeing the exact signs you gave. It was strange that just days before the huge negative change was that I was getting a positive review. I figured out that it was because they knew I filed a complaint with OSHA.The day that OSHA came down on them was when their attitude towards me changed.
@@boink800 IMPORTANT POINT! Do not quit! Either get a new job or get fired. Because if you're on a PIP you're not going to use that employer for a recommendation anyway. So you might as well get fired and take severance and then UI.
You are about to be fired when you have the audacity to actually ask to take some of your vacation. Twice I started getting "negative feedback" after coming back from vacations. In both situations I preemptively resigned rather than wait for it.
This is the best thing I had to hear. Although I left my job 4 months back, I had to suffer literally all the points you brought up. Thank god I'm not the only one who had to suffer this. Oh yes one more thing, my so called boss (who is not exactly the boss but supposedly the team leader) told me that if she took my interview, the likes of me wouldn't be "here". P.s-the interview was taken by the actual boss.
#1 someone who can also do your job is hired. Bosses aren't going to get rid of you if your absence hurts productivity significantly. Or a new hire that is helping you starts outperforming you. You are now redundant.
You know they want to get rid of you when they start asking you to train other employees. And I'm such an idiot that I do it because I know I have no use for the information.
I was let go from a job just before the pandemic. I was put in an impossible position and set to fail. I filed for NC Unemployment Benefits when the pandemic started. I qualified on time worked and money earned. My former employer contested my case for termination with cause. I kept losing my case as my former employer contested my claim through different hearings. I found that the state law for my situation was in error. In the law, a key term is used that is not defined in the list of key terms for that group of laws. This lets the presiding authorities for my hearings to interpret that term as they choose. I can keep contesting my claim eventually rising to the NC Supreme Court if I need to. Earlier this week, I contacted my state legislators about the error in the law. My state house representative's staff is looking into my case.
My gut has never been wrong when it came to stuff happening or about to happen at work. One time I took a leave of absence the week before the boss announced to the whole company that it was being acquired. The day I came back I updated my resume and started having interviews on my lunch break. Also the biggest red flag is suddenly all of your meetings, the ones that were scheduled weeks in advance, get canceled. The day that happens, you better be ready for the inevitable last meeting with HR and your boss LOL
I'm always a fan of having a Plan B lined up (even when you're not worried about being laid off or fired and you're in a job you love and not a toxic AF job). Do you have a plan B (or have you updated your resume and LinkedIn)?
Three resumes in 9 months. I'm kicking them out by the quarter and as I learn better resume skills. I am going to go through my linked-in profile if my current interview doesn't come through. I'm not big on interviewing widely but may have to learn.
I have been fired 4 times in the same field of work over the past 9 years and I still managed to double my income.
Plan B is turning into Plan A. I got a call saying the interviews over the last two weeks have gone well, and they are making an offer.
@@jeffrybrickley870 AHHH this is fantastic news!! Please keep me posted!
I think it's a good idea to have a secondary job, or as you refer to it in America: a side Hustle. It took me a while to appreciate that.
ATTENTION: COWORKERS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS!!!
That's like befriending an FBI agent or a state trooper.
Some of my best friends were co-workers and we've remained friends even after leaving the horrible jobs we met at. If you can't or choose not to make friends at work, it will be miserable by default. Some of your best opportunities can come from friends, you never know where they may go in life and they might want you to work with them. It's like the old term they used to use "Networking".
Coworkers can be friendly and achieve a connection although they need a paycheck
Friend without the R is fiend
Actually two of my best friends I have were coworkers and even tho we've all got different jobs now we still speak frequently
Getting fired from a toxic job is a blessing. Let them let you go. Don't quit.
Why is this a blessing?
@@tiahardy31715 sometime you can receive unemployment benefits. I did.
For sure. I'll let them firing me. I won't step back.
@@tiahardy31715 So you can move on.
This is the absolute truth! My boss was so toxic that I would grind my teeth (unconsciously) until my jaws would ache. Finally, I was fired and relief just washed all over me. I was actually twirling in the parking lot and couldn't quit smiling. The very next day I was hired by another company that I love AT DOUBLE THE PAY. I would call that a blessing.
I hate working for companies. It's like being back in highschool. Too much gossip and bullshit.
Me too. I worked for a small restaurant for 14 years. I got my degree and plenty of certifications and built up a nice cushion . But they closed a week after the lock downs. I went to work for a large corporation and it was definitely like experiencing hell on earth. Not sure where else I'll be working at next.
Same. I work in aerospace and after working so hard to get where I am, I recently came to the realization that I no longer want to punch a clock at all regardless of the field. Currently working on my several streams of income so I can call it quits
Yes, it's COMPETITON ... just like high school was. Think of High School as being the training ground for the dog-eat-dog lifestyle.
EXACTLY.
I despise it!
@@ignazs.5816 keep after it. lost my job at big corp. took 8 months of gut wrenching job searching. go back to school - crazy expensive with ageism
Sometimes being unjustly fired from a job turns out to be a blessing in disguise because it opens the door to a better opportunity to a more rewarding job.
Absolutely.
This is so true! I got “suspended” for a week which turned into my employer ignoring me the next week when I wanted to come back to work, anyway a week later I found a job that pays 30 an hour which is way better than before
Yes!! 🤗🤗🤗
Lucky few here
How to you get over it like they won 😢you can’t get them back that’s what I’m stuck on
Your gut instinct never betrays you.
I got fired from my accounting job and I knew it was coming. I dreaded going to work, knowing that no matter what I did, I was going to screw up. It was a good firm, I just was not a good accountant. I was there for 5 months and they gave me 2 mid term evaluations that were not great. Now I'm a math teacher and I am where I belong and im happier.
I was unceremoniously fired from my remote analytics job 2 months after my 3 month probationary period was over (and the friend who got me the job received his bonus from recommending me.) Ha ha, I mistakenly thought I was "home free" after the 3 month probation. Live and learn.
Those who can’t do teach lol
@@juniorjames7076 the probation never ends my friend. You learned a valuable lesson.
I got fired from a dream job about ten years ago. I can’t express how lucky I feel that it happened.
@@Ian-of9oi so what happened that makes it OK for you
The way your co workers behave is a massive indicator, they’ll lose respect and distance themselves. This means they know you have fallen out of favour with the boss.
So many false friends and backstabbers in this world. We weren't meant to live this way. It's sad.
A lot of times coworkers ARE the reason you are getting fired. They don't like/don't respect you and then bad mouth you behind your back. You have to Grey rock coworkers. They are not your friends.
@nathanlovik1753 Keep your distance, don't gossip or give them any information they can use against you. The workplace is competitive, and people love a take down. You must be self-sufficient, that way, you can remain at a distance. Don't be too aloof, this will also make you a target, you must play the social game it's the only way to survive, find the balance but never get comfortable!
@@Classicbeauty857 The way to be aloof without appearing to be aloof and alienating people is to have interests nobody else has, and which they therefore will not want to discuss but aren't too weird. For example, if coworkers ask about hobbies I'll say coin or stamp collecting. Absolutely, nobody under the age of 65 is interested in those things and the conversation ends there. I don't do either but no one ever pursues it.
Culture fit for most corporations = we're looking for a carbon copy of us and individuality is frowned upon but we still want diversity points on LinkedIn so we'll hire a "diverse" person once in a blue moon and post about it. We're so woke.
Yep! I've always wondered why that is ? I always feel like a square peg in a round hole in most companies I've worked for. It's crazy. I've just started a new job. Not even a month in, I'm already thinking of leaving. It's just toxic AF. Plus I have zero in common with all my co workers. I'm way too much of an individual for these assholes that's for sure.
I always saw "cultural fit" as a sneaky way to discriminate
@@jeff6413 That is exactly it, Jeff, it's a "politically correct" phrasing to mask actual discrimination. They can reject your application citing lack of cultural fit even if the real reason is different and no one questions it.
I’ve also learned it’s better for the entire team to be wrong then you being the only person who was right. You have to have a beehive mentality. Humans can be so annoying in packs but I guess I get it 🙄
I work as a recruiter and unfortunately often times you’re right. I hope things can change soon.
Another bad sign is when you see the job you currently have being advertised in the want ads.
Yep!
Interestingly, the company I was unexpectedly fired from puts ads out every 5 months!
Another good tip is that your supervisor will tell you to submit all your information and job manuals into the shared folders for everyone to access.
Dang! I was just asked to do that today.
Yep so it will be available for training the next person
Not necessarily. At my job, we all put important documents into a shared folder. What if the sole keeper of the documents quits? What if he/she goes on vacation or disability?
Yep
@@marys3738 lol
If they're going to fire you, they will do it. There is no standard when it comes to firing people in the U.S. I have never been fired for work performance. I have only ever been fired for personal reasons. Typically when I speak the truth or stand up for others, that's more than enough to get fired. Workers need more protections because these companies know they have all the power and flex it any chance they get.
Totally agree, there needs to be worker protections. At Will employment should not be a legal working arrangement.
Accurate.
I included in quotation marks the language of my employment. Which was At-Will. They could fire me whenever, for whatever, without warning or true cause. I wanted to let them know I felt the same way. No two week notice. Just taped my resignation letter to the front door, told the boss I was going for lunch, and went home.
I didn't get a text or phone call from boss or colleague until over 2.5 hours later. 😃 That should tell you something. (only 3 of us were on that day)
@@1Wendy_Woo Oh my gosh. So no warning?
In the state of California it is illegal to terminate someone's employment for speaking up on behalf of someone belonging to a protected class. Even with at will employment in the contract.
Another thing. Kind of falls under setting up to fail. But getting picked on for things that are less than everyone else in the workplace gets away with.
E.g. accused of being intoxicated when one of my managers was actively buying Marijuana from a juvenile employee.
Sign, you are ignored by your boss.
That's never a good sign.
He does not reply to your steraight forward questions in emails. For example, mine was about priorities...no reply. "I did that on purpose, I wanted to see what you were going to do there."....
@@DanTheManIOM will mind usually ignore my emails. I don't know different field you're in I guess. This is all of us though. They ignored mine I ignored theirs too.
A raggedy supervisor did this to me smh they knew it was coming
So true! All because I wasn’t a gossip. I didn’t fit in with their mess. She saw that I was a strong person and a good quick learner. Therefore she never wanted to train me. She was a very unprofessional messy manager. The company was an “at Will” company so I didn’t fight. I was fired. I just walked away. Sometimes all you can do it pray for people and let God be the final judge. God will compensate. She was very toxic and it had nothing to do with the work. Walking out of there was a blessing and a relief. All the injustices that happened will be taking care of by Karma.
not karma, God's justice.
Sounds like literally all workplaces.
Trusting your gut is so very important! I’m dealing with a toxic work environment currently.
A job is not who you are. Develop yourself to the best version of yourself.
I had a job where my perfect performance review dropped to rock bottom. I asked my supervisor what was going on, she *_knew_* that the scores were bogus and I asked her to just be straight with me on whether or not I was going to be fired or not. She knew I didn't deserve to be fired, but they needed to show that I was fired for cause. I said enough with the games and took my report to the department head. Wrote "LIES" on the paperwork, made a copy of it and then told the department head "If you want to fire me, just do it." So he did.
I just walked out, leaving almost nothing at my desk. When the supervisor took my side in the unemployment hearing I was frankly shocked.
After the hearing though, she said she had already got another job and that if they could do what they did to me, they would do it to anyone, so she started looking for another job the day of my review. I was touched that someone would have my back like that.
In the years since that, I have been very attuned to dysfunctional work environments, and I never stay there for long. I am so glad that I am retired now and no longer have to deal with the utterly toxic work environment that exists in America today.
To everyone who is working, Look for a job that makes you happy, and work with coworkers that you enjoy being around. Life is too short to be playing stupid employment games.
I needed to see this today!
Age ? Just curious.
I honestly needed to read this. Currently 8 years into my second job. I’m about to be 30 and this just isn’t enough
The last paragraph is so true. Getting my first "legit" job after just recently graduating from college and it's the exact department within engineering I wanted and one I did 4 out of my 5 rotations with said department during college.
The two reasons I accepted the offer without hesitations was I love the work (%95 of the time) and enjoy working with everyone from the department.
So, so true! Cheers to that : )
This is so accurate. Having been laid off multiple times (sometimes it’s just downsizing, budget cuts, whatever) it’s almost worse when you see the signs and know what’s coming. We really need better job protection laws, including mandatory on-boarding periods, and punishing supervisors for lack of training and setting people up to fail. 🤬
Yeah people are starting to realize this and there might be laws in the near future.
I got fired for covering a shift. But really they can't give hours and are struggling to pay employees. 😕😡
Human beings are very unfair and it amazes me how society/governments approve these types of behaviors/toxic attitudes.
Thanks to Charlie Sheen, he outed it as called 'Winning'. Is he still winning tho?
X2.
Cause they do it too, they are mother and father to the whole ordeal
Because they are ungpdly. They don't follow God and don't love others as themselves.
I was on the verge of ending myself if I could have recorded my situation....nothing happened except the Asst Director just walked in one morning and said goodbye...I asked why bc there were never any meeting, no write ups, no warnings of any kind. No micromanaging and all of these other indicators Jennifer mentioned. I never even received not even one termination paper to sign. It was so unfair to me and unprofessional of the. I know I was the only one without a tattoo, only non-smoker, and without a nose ring, 😅
A better title for this video is - Quit before you are fired/laid off and here are the cues. Leaving before the 💩 hits the fan will give you a better chance of getting a better role and not leave you in a bad spot.
Sometimes. If you're terminated sometimes you can collect unemployment (depending on where you live); also depending on the role and company you might get a severance package. In lieu of those though, it is easier to explain quitting vs getting fired in interviews (though I don't think getting fired is a big deal and it's easy to explain).
@@JenniferBrick Great point. But sometimes nasty managers can bash you in a HR-code to potential employees. That may negate the little unemployment 💵 you get. But they won’t get that chance if still employed and look for a new role. Personally, If I feel disrespected or my manager is a petty person and vile; I don’t risk it and I start looking for a new role.
As you should! All of these signs, even if they don't end in termination, show the workplace is dysfunctional. There are so many opportunities out there, might as well pursue something with a better company, right?
@@JenniferBrick It's weird. Mid-management and lower: Being fired is a black mark on your record, making getting hired much more difficult. Really, it is. Many hiring companies don't care what the reason was for your firing, just that you were fired in the first place. On the other hand, in upper management, getting fired is a badge of honor, as it means that you were willing to take risks (that just simply didn't pan out).
@@b1crusade384 What is this HR-code to potential employees you mentioned? Can you elaborate? Or have examples?
It’s a sick world we’re living in whether you’re in school, work, college or taking up a trade
Yup and you can feel safe and secure 1 week and be concerned the next week. Workplaces change.
I got terminated after reporting one of my bosses... I knew it was coming but I have a better job now and it makes me so excited
Good for you! x
@@user-of9bx1uk3u yeah she fired me for hostile work environment but she put her hands on me all the time so it was funny how I was terminated.
@@asihacraig4265 why didn't you press charges?
The first and number one sign you are going to be fired or quit is when your competencies exceed your boss and they are in denial.
Then you not only explain in detail why their plan is going to fail but when it fails exactly as you explained, the boss blames you for the failure.
Its happening with me and another thing is on and off time dedicated to train me for better ..
@@aditiishere94 "Do not outshine the master." is a sure way to get fired lol
I once had a boss send me an email saying he was concerned about my performance (which was absolute hogwash, and I replied to the email with proof that I had already briefed him on all these issues and they were already resolved). He even agreed after a meeting that all his concerns were alleviated. That was my first clue he was going to fire me in a shady way, and sure enough, just a few weeks later they did fire me super shady like. Don't have any loyalty to a business. They sure as hell have zero loyalty to you.
Businesses use people and people use businesses
Amen! It's 2022, not 1952. The days of companies being loyal to their people are over. Best bet is to "look out for #1".
Best comment ever. Commitment to cold corp robots is naive.
Yup. Loyalty is for suckers. Present as loyal, but keep looking for other opportunities.
It's also the contradiction in the work environment
Recap:
1. You start to get nitpicky negative feedback.
2. Work gets reassigned to other people when it normally would be assigned to you.
3. Red Alert: Your manager starts taking a lot of notes and doing a lot of summary, follow-up emails. Reply to clarify what they got wrong and what you've done. For your own records.
4. You're set up to fail. You're given a huge project with not enough time.
5. Relationships with people at work start being distant. Work friends might start to distance themselves from you.
6. You're put on a Performance Improvement Plan. Ask yourself if it's structured to help you succeed or setting you up to fail?
7. Gut feeling.
Bonus: Be prepared. Build confidence because losing a job can major hit.
This is so true. Actually where I have worked before there's always the sign that the boss stops giving you tasks and stops inviting you to the meetings. Great video!
The sudden lightening the workload is a big warning sign. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts, Rodo!
@@JenniferBrick Yes. For a few years, my load calendar was over-filled and I had to learn told to "build capacity." Even tho, I already worked longer hours than anyone on the team. Then, my boss got expanded responsibility and put me under my co-worker. The workload lessened under this new supervisor, which I thought was good but then I got written up.
Definitely! Or bringing in someone to help you and asking that you share more often on statuses constantly.
@@JessicaHicks Exactly!
Meetings…yes
Sometimes you are being setup to lose out on a promotion.
You missed: "Your boss asks you to train a new hire or department transfer how to do your job".
That exact thing just happened to me and the same day I trained them I was fired before I got off smh
@@feliciakent9628 That's just wrong. Sorry.
That's a sick thing do
Nitpicking at everything is sign. Nothing is ever good enough. They also start talking about you looking elsewhere for other places.
If you feel they are planning to fire you, just start burning sick and pto. Look for another job and do the bare minimum. No need to over work yourself.
I would say just do the bare minimum from the beginning.
The trust your gut is so important! This happened to me years ago and I left right in time to get another job in NYC!
Extra applause for NYC! I love this city so much!
ALWAYS read in between the lines!!! NON VERBAL CUES is the LANGUAGE of CORPORATE AMERICA!!!
I trusted my gut and walked out for good December 15th. Very proud of myself!
My last employer did all these things exactly how you described them. I’m grateful I knew what was going on and was able to submit my resignation letter before they were able to formally fire me.
Especially the faux diverse point at my last job. Being the only male working in my entire building (I work in nursing) you would’ve thought that my company would want to keep me around. Nope, it was like I was always looked at under a microscope and little mistakes such as misspelling words when documenting were blown way out of proportion.
A firing will entitle you to a severance package on some occasions. Quitting will not.
@@applefan612 Did you quit so that you could possibly be rehired?
so much anxiety from this video because I had experienced most of these signs in my last job. my boss treated me like this and it was horrible. I'm at a completely different company now and the difference between treatment is night and day. know what you're worth and leave that toxicity!
No need to stay at a toxic place. I've worked for some ridiculous people in my time and some outstanding ones. At the end of the day it's just a job.
"Being set up to fail" happened to me. :) I ran a group that provided internal services and relied on volunteers from other parts of the company for staff. The VP I reported to engineered one of the key sources of staff withdrawing from my group. The only notice I ever got of this was when my peer, that I coordinated with, informed me they were withdrawing. They had legitimate concerns but they could have been addressed. VP knew about the whole situation, knew there were issues that could have been addressed, but never once informed me. I found out months later that he had facilitated the mortal wounding of my group.
Watch your back out there, friends. Companies do not reward loyalty. Your colleagues at work are not your friends.
Facts.
I had this happen to me. I believe corporate made my boss fill a new subordinate position he did not want. Gave me minimal training and wouldn't answer questions. I should have been suspicious in the interview when he told me I was smart and he had confidence I would figure things out. At the end he started criticizing my work and would not explain exactly what I was doing wrong. The job lasted 9 months. I started looking at the 6 month mark. I only stayed because I had a young daughter.
Increased level of micromanaging by your direct supervisor is a big hint. Being set up to fail is common. Organizations set up a paper trail when all these occur. Leaving is prudent.
The paper trail is important. This has happened to me twice and in both situations, they were caught off guard when it was discovered that I had heavy documentation against them. I think I spooked one employer because my documentation was so spot on that you could find the evidence in one of our systems to back it up and that was information that just could not vanish. This is why I will finish my Master's in History early next year and look to remote history jobs. I'm already working towards Plan B.
A master's in history, huh? Hope that plan B works for you. History jobs are scaaaarce.
I recently got laid off and there were some clear signs I picked up on but tried to brush off as purely paranoia before I got the news. 1. Work that was supposed to come my way suddenly wasn't talked about anymore, 2. Manager's disinterest in what I was doing, 3. Manager saying "oh you don't have to be in that cross-departmental meeting if you can't make it", 4. "we're prioritizing our efforts and focusing only on what moves the needle" and 5. the worst of all, being asked to compile my working assets on the company's drive "so people can have easy access and don't have to ask you for it" (I'm a designer). All of that along with a random 1:1 with the manager set up on a Friday afternoon a week in advance. Like I said, I picked up on these, but wanted to believe it was just paranoia. When I logged in to that meeting and saw that the company's commercial director was also in the call, I knew right away it was over.
I worked in a very toxic environment where my bosses were gas lighting me. I knew I was being set up to be fired. I left before they had that opportunity.
Gaslighting is really bad at my job. I literally have to ask my boss what is going on around there because he doesn’t say to much to me. He is such an asshole.
I got fired today. It’s been leading up for months ever since I first stood up for myself. It was a full on slash in the amount of inclusion in important meetings and info after that.
I was continually being given impossible tasks outside of my work title without any training and expected to figure it out. I was told I was going to promoted in the first month I started, and start being trained, yet I started doing the new position + my current one. Literally at the bottom of the pyramid while still doinv jobs that were 2 positions above me + any IT work. I was a receptionist yall. Doing. IT. Work. To make it better, a toxic co worker was involved, totally taking away any good i did do. Micromanaging me, completely going over what I did but in the most random way like I would open a box of face masks and she would come around the corner and fold the corners differently. So odd. She would slam doors or call me stupid when I told her that I didn’t need help nicely. I would bring it to my boss’s attention and was told “it was just her personality” “she had a hard week”
I went in and did my all everyday, but a month ago was told to recreate the book that gave directions on what my job was to do. I re wrote everything, finally thinking I was getting recognition. I wish that I would have realized I was creating the new training book for the person who’d replace me.
A week ago, was my breaking point. I was told I wasn’t working urgently or hard enough. I cried, the boss also attacked my parenting & personal life. Over the weekend I fully prepared to be fired. Today we met again, she asked what She could do differently, i told her. She argued, interrupted, was shaking and trying to defend everything I had said with little actual proof. She told me to start looking for a new job so that she didn’t fire me and i couldn get unemployment. I said i was there to do my job and wouldn’t quit. After while, she was approved to let me go. I didn’t cry one bit this morning until I carried all my stuff to my car and dropped my strawberries then the tears starting flowing. The worst part of being fired is feeling so disposable. She told me to my face she doesn’t care about her employees she cared about the profit for the company.
That's sad! Was she vaccinated for COVID? Sorry but vaccinated people for COVID are loosing their marbles and becoming very mean and evil! Good luck on finding a better job with better people!
I hope you documented all the harrasment and retaliation(which is illegal) that you suffered for speaking up, if yes, time for a lawsuit😁😁 this hurts the most to companies
This also brings up the question for me of why would I ever invest in employer healthcare /retirement if they're throwing people out like this?
@Alpha Omega it's collar* not color....
I feel the same.tho
If your employer want to fire you, they will, what you can do is start looking for new job. it's not going to be a friendly environment anymore anyway..
Another sign for a LOT of companies is simply that you are getting older. Employers are getting rid of older workers.
How old is older 😢😢😢 I’m 33 😢😢😢😢
@@socrates936depends on your salary
@@socrates936retirement age
@@socrates936 40
And.... When you realize getting fired is eminent..... RESIGN. It's easier to lie about why you resigned from a job during an interview. It's much harder to give a good answer to why you were fired. Because whenever you hear that someone was fired... First thing that pops into mind is that they were fired due to non performance... Which might not be the case
You don't ever have to say you were fired. The only legal way is if you tell them. Always be looking for a new job. If they do fire you for "performance" reasons, that is not justified under unemployment law. Every time a claim gets awarded against an employer their tax burden contribution to unemployment goes up.
I have kept a paper trail and prove my point professionally and tactfully. They showed me the door. If you get a feeling that someone is trying to fire you, find another job and leave.
Unless you have a great severance package coming and want to wait for it, just start looking for your next job immediately.
I got fired so many times I can just sense it coming now
This is why you should always be interviewing.
Thanks for your constructive advice Jennifer. I’ve had a gut feeling for months, but my husband thinks I’m making too much of it. I know and trust my intuition since it’s hardly ever failed me.
I mean I got fired for being "too attractive/pretty" the female manager couldn't put up with me having that kind of attention.... Truly toxic indeed smh 🙄
Same.
I got that when I was younger. Plus I am not a super outgoing person to boot. So women take that as snobby.
Jealous older female bosses are awful!
You are so pretty. If I was a woman I would fire your ass too. Lol.
Female managers are not it ,gossip , petty and fake. i got fired two times in my life and they are both female managers. companies that i worked for more than three years are men. Males usually are more “open minded” and “direct” , I made a lot of mistakes and he called me out but he pushed me to do good and I eventually did, female managers that i dealt with are fake, i ask them for feedbacks they say “dont stress too much about it” and then gossip when you make mistakes 😂
my boss walked by while I was watching this video and fired me :(
He always wanted to
😳😳😳😳
Were you on a break or watching TH-cam company time?
I was always getting pulled into the office. Yet, I was a worker who was experienced and competent in what I did, I never quite understood why this happened
This is me. Today I’m being pulled into another meeting. Probably my last. 🙂
Read Rory millers conflict communication book
If it is minimum wage job or low-paying job period, you could be let go at any time, for any reason, or no reason at all. It doesn't matter how much hard work you put into the company.
Is this the case for all low wage jobs?
@@kinga9356 🤣
A lot of these companies you describe that are low wage, they don't care about you one bit when they try to claim they do care. They just don't give a shit.
With my experiences most of the issues a person experiences are within the work-place. It's a heaven for drama, narcissism and sociopaths and you cant exactly walk away right when you feel like it.
Some people are just real good at their job and they focus on job related issues, other people are really good at focusing on fellow employees which causes problems.
I feel this way, you go to work to go to work, not to be in the business of the people you work with.
This is so true.
I went to work to work. The days that were supposed to be casual were never verbalized to me so when I showed up dressed professionally, as usual, I was supposed to put a polo shirt over top of my dress. (?!) The rest of that day I found an office to work in with the doors closed. (they didn't like that)
The following week, I quit.
I had a manager who left bad reviews on all of us at the same time for mistakes she committed. All of us left almost at the same time
Every boss that has ever fired me was always shocked and confused on why I didnt care.
Simple there is always another job for a low end worker. It built me up to be a trucker where now i am a big demand
Most of the time I'm a Loner when I work I don't bother with anybody. I go in I said hello. And I learn this from my stepfather who owned the company in New Jersey. He didn't want me getting too friendly with the employees in case he had to let someone go. And the one thing that was good about my stepfather didn't get too involved with the employees that he had under him. God Rest Your Soul miss you.
When a manager that never gave a F about all of a sudden start checking on you “concerned” about your performance. Trust your gut, when something is off about the atmospherics go into CYA mode. Start documenting everything. If legal in your state start recording conversations with managers. HR pooped bricks when I implied I had recorded convos with a toxic manager. Lastly, go find an employment lawyer. It was worth the money in the end.
If they cut your hours back, that is a good sign they trying to push you out or you just leave due to the lck of full hours
Depending on the job. If it's just you then I guess. I worked for a company our hrs were cut down to 30 per week( entire dpt)
If you are hourly, they cut your hours back so much that the hours they end up giving you are only enough hours to cover the payroll deductions, and benefit deductions so you end up with a paycheck that is for $0.00.
If you are an older employee, these signs can be used to force your retirement. Even if you are performing well.
i'm over 50 and dealing with this! it sucks! they want the old people gone!
I was given a Performance Improvement Plan...then I was told to "not think of this as negative"! I was already looking for other jobs at the time.
"Friendships" with coworkers is an oxy moron... however most people actually DO think they're your friends at work. Even when they aren't. Mental gymnastics are funny.
Had a feeling was getting fired and just left instead. Two years later made more money working on my own than I ever did working for them. These companies don’t care about employees anymore so it’s best to work to get a living where you can have money to work on your own in the future
A dead giveaway that you are about to be fired from a toxic workplace is when everyone seems to have a running joke that you're not in on. All your co-workers know you're about to be fired and want to stick around for the show, the only thing worse is when smart arse customers are sitting around with a big smirk on their faces and you're about to be fired in front of them.
All these signs are so on point. And I am so glad you touched on the topic of confidence. This exactly happened to me and from day 1 I had a funny feeling with the team! Also I think instead of waiting for the other person to start a paper trail I would suggest EVERYONE no matter what should have a paper trail. You never know!
As a manager, I really think what she is saying is absolutely correct.
So you’re admitting you’re a crappy person?
@@kisht7469 lmao
@@kisht7469 lmaooo
Lol manager don’t care about work quality. I have seen excellent hard working employees get fired when bad lazy employees keep their job.
My god... it's like you use to work at UPS. This is exactly what they'd do to PT Sups.
The paper trails. The setting you up for failure. The constant ridicule and asking when you will resign already. They will even let their favorite employees get away with coming to your area, harass you with refusal to stop or do work. And vandalize you car.
And all the drama starts the moment you get a complaint about you sent to HR. You were doing just fine your whole career until that happened.
That is horrific if they let a employee harass you and vandalize your property!
@@JenniferBrick yeah, I even tried raising multiple complaints. And he said “yeah I know he’s bullying you. But I’m not gonna get involved. Instead. I want you to prove him wrong. By overcoming it. And running your area with 100% efficiency. But it’s hard changing someone’s mind when they’ve already made it. That and the sort for my area kept changing every week. Having to swap out the labels. Memorizing all the zip codes for the state. Him making my area twice as big. Writing me up for almost running out of labels. Even when he told me not to print out too many. And I rolled with the punches for as long as I could. I could go on all day about the things they have done to me.
I walked out on that job. After years of commitment and dedication. And he laughed me out the door. All because I didn’t have the tools to combat against the harassment back then.
I’m a PT sup at UPS and can definitely vouch for this type of behavior. It happens but they try to get away with it because you’re “non union” and gotta do everything your boss tells you to do at the exact time they want it done while you’re doing other things
Omg this video hit on so many keys points .
Being set up to fail. My last job my boss gave me the part of the job she didn’t know how to do. Because she didn’t know she was responsible for it. Next, the nit picking . Bosses like this you can do no right. Last, when you boss cancels one on ones Is a big red flag
That's a good add - disappearing one on ones with your boss and if you have them with their boss too... definitely red flag unless there is a reason like travel or emergency.
One One cancelled isn't always a sign at least for me. My SUP cancelled and rescheduled many times. Am still with the company.
You should’ve also added change of bosses. When I was younger the boss that hired me died and someone took his place that didn’t like me and I was let go because he wanted a relative of his to take my job. Now companies are sold all the time and employees are fired because they aren’t needed or they contract the jobs out to a different area. Many times this comes as a surprise because they assure the employees they’ll still have a job. One of “The Office” series went into this as the manager was told to fire a retain amount of employees.
One bad sign I’m seeing lately is the company hiring offshore people. My company has been doing that a lot lately sadly. They have full time employees start training offshore staff and eventually have those offshore employees completely take over the team to have cheaper labor and not pay insurance.
Remote work can be done everywhere. Covid proved that
That's not a new trend.
Happened big time at my place of work 2 years ago. Any basic tasks that can be offshores, are sent to India.
My uncle managed a department in a retail store: they praised his leadership and effectiveness when giving him an assistant.
He took the bright young man under his wing, cultivated him, taught him the ropes.
Some months later that bright young man had my uncle's job, working for a far junior salary.
-It's been a while: I wonder if the new guy ever "got an assistant"?
Prayer changes things.
There was another co worker in the same department as myself with the same first name. I was being blamed for things I had no idea about, that I wasn't even involved in. The people who were blaming me were never questioned as to if they were blaming the right person. I'll take the blame if I do something wrong, but not other people's mistakes.
There is negative feedback from the start. It’s part of the training I’m getting. My supervisor didn’t even want me to get an interview said I was overqualified and then the owner got ahold of my resume and wanted to interview me. My training hadn’t been very good and I’m told on the one hand to give it months before I get everything and on the other telling me to go fast and frowning in me taking notes. I’m told in a daily basis about my mistakes by either my supervisor or other senior employees that are a good 20 years younger and one in particular doesn’t like me. 😞 it’s a small business and I really need full time work. My living situation is also difficult. I’m trying to reinvent my life but I seem to be hitting speed bumps. Just wanted to vent, thanks for listening since I have no one to talk about this with
A lot of this happened to me in my first job and the boss one day came in told me "we both know this is not going well" and I was like wut? And that's how I got fired.
Lol
Awesome video! Exactlfy what I have experienced! They were also other workers involved, like being ganged up on. I was doing the same thing at a level of excellence for over a decade, all of a sudden I became sub-par. Ultimately they did me a favor. Once I got out of that environment, I I was able to see what I was worth and getting compensated for it. I haven't looked for a job in years, they look for me.
I am a sucker for a success after a toxic job story like yours!
Happen to me lol 😂 #^*🏁🏁♥️♥️ a blessing in disguise
Currently working at a place where I’m being set up to fail. The person training me left(she was the only one left in the department), which leaves me, the new person, running a whole department by myself. Because I’m now the only one there, I’m answering customer questions that I don’t know the answer to, completing tasks I’m not fully trained on, and helping new people when I’m new myself. I’m supposed to be the assistant, so I’m being under paid for the extra work I’m doing and of course anytime something is wrong, I’m getting in trouble. I’m not sure if I should wait until I have another job or just jump ship now.
Look for a new job but don't leave your current one before you're 100% sure that you already have the new job. 🙏
For sure a classical one is documentation. "Suddenly" your boss thinks that documenting your work takes priority over everything else. I recall asking a former boss for a specific project that would build some skills but he immediately said that documenting what I was working on took precedence. Sure enough, I was laid off less than two months later.
Yep, because they want to be able to carry on like nothing happened.
I’m on that. Saving.
I knew the writing was on the wall when my boss called me into the office to say "according to this file you haven't opened any customer accounts..." Bare in mind I work in the warehouse, away from the customers.
Lol
I was on a PIP with a sales job. It was more a micromanagement plan.
I'm not cut out for sales, I'm pretty good at moving freight and it better suits me
Micromanaging is a sign they really don’t know what they are doing.
@@uppitybee898 they mainly used it to push people out.
I had this, in the UK I call it as being 'managed' out the business. My advice is two fold, firstly start looking for a new job and secondly start gathering any evidence you can to try and support how you are being treated. I did this and I ended up resigning under a 'none disclosure ' agreement. I felt better as it gave me enough money to pay off my mortgage. The company also went bust about 3 years later, this was bitter sweet for me as a lot of good people lost their jobs who didn't deserve that. If it is happening to you, step back and think what you can do to protect and improve your position, good luck👍👍
Just keeping a diary whether your treatment is good or bad, can save your ass in the long-run.
Most of these are good signs they want you to quit so you don't get unemployment insurance . The record keeping is so they can deny you if you don't quit. That's when you keep your own records . Daily ! Keep records of everything . Schedules , work assignments . That way after you get denied . Youll get a judge to award you unemployment and you can sue for discrimination.
I don’t have to deal with this bullshi*t anymore. I am now financially independent.
I live in NC. We are a "at will" state. Basically meaning the employer or employee can walk in and basically say "your fired" or "I quit" with no explanation needed.
I'm working on a deep dive into At Will employment. All part of the disgraceful lack of protections for American workers IMHO.
Video request: How to have older co-workers stop imparting wisdom, mentoring me, knit-picking, and providing their micromanaging recommendations- unsolicited. Help!
I had a toxic boss (who fired me) back in 2008. I didn’t really see it coming…:well, sort of, but I ignored the signs as I was in denial about it.
I knew I was about to get fired seeing the exact signs you gave. It was strange that just days before the huge negative change was that I was getting a positive review. I figured out that it was because they knew I filed a complaint with OSHA.The day that OSHA came down on them was when their attitude towards me changed.
I've experienced this....discrimination at it's finest.
Glad I wasn't alone at this. I hope nobody ever takes this personal. Jobs suck ass these days.
If you are placed on a PIP, start job hunting. You will be fired soon.
Though, you cannot quit since you will not qualify for unemployment insurance. I used the farcical PIP I had against them, and I got my U.I.
@@boink800 IMPORTANT POINT! Do not quit! Either get a new job or get fired. Because if you're on a PIP you're not going to use that employer for a recommendation anyway. So you might as well get fired and take severance and then UI.
@@jacocharo I got my UI after they tried to deny it. I got my UI since I used their PIP against them.
You are about to be fired when you have the audacity to actually ask to take some of your vacation. Twice I started getting "negative feedback" after coming back from vacations. In both situations I preemptively resigned rather than wait for it.
This is the best thing I had to hear. Although I left my job 4 months back, I had to suffer literally all the points you brought up. Thank god I'm not the only one who had to suffer this.
Oh yes one more thing, my so called boss (who is not exactly the boss but supposedly the team leader) told me that if she took my interview, the likes of me wouldn't be "here".
P.s-the interview was taken by the actual boss.
#1 someone who can also do your job is hired. Bosses aren't going to get rid of you if your absence hurts productivity significantly.
Or a new hire that is helping you starts outperforming you. You are now redundant.
You're doing a great service for the public. Thank you.
You know they want to get rid of you when they start asking you to train other employees. And I'm such an idiot that I do it because I know I have no use for the information.
Not always the case. I've been asked to trained people and I was with the company until I quit.
I was let go from a job just before the pandemic. I was put in an impossible position and set to fail. I filed for NC Unemployment Benefits when the pandemic started. I qualified on time worked and money earned. My former employer contested my case for termination with cause. I kept losing my case as my former employer contested my claim through different hearings. I found that the state law for my situation was in error. In the law, a key term is used that is not defined in the list of key terms for that group of laws. This lets the presiding authorities for my hearings to interpret that term as they choose. I can keep contesting my claim eventually rising to the NC Supreme Court if I need to. Earlier this week, I contacted my state legislators about the error in the law. My state house representative's staff is looking into my case.
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My gut has never been wrong when it came to stuff happening or about to happen at work. One time I took a leave of absence the week before the boss announced to the whole company that it was being acquired. The day I came back I updated my resume and started having interviews on my lunch break.
Also the biggest red flag is suddenly all of your meetings, the ones that were scheduled weeks in advance, get canceled. The day that happens, you better be ready for the inevitable last meeting with HR and your boss LOL
Always learn and be loyal to yourself.
there is nothing worse than going to work in a toxic environment or a place you cant stand.