Common N62 Problems on my BMW 550i (TERRIFYING NOISE)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we're putting my newly aquired 550i on the lift, and we try to figure out where it's leaking from and what problems it hides underneath the hood! Turns out, this thing suffers from some of the more common N62 problems I've encountered before on my old 545i. And just when we think we've found everything, the car starts making a horrible screeching noise, coming from the motor. Come with me as we discover what mysteries lie beneath!
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man you continue to impress me with your mechanical knowledge. keep doing what you’re doing 🙌‼️
Awesome vid man! I’m glad there going to be more quality n62/e60 videos coming out!
Great leak inspection! Also saw a good one coming from the small Dynamic Drive pump attached to the front stabilizer bar. It’s contributing to the low power steering fluid problem.
You're so right I didn't think about that! Wonder if there's a washer or sealant that needs to be added to the threads
@@TheBimmerBarn Leaky ventilation or distribution valve. If unchanged, the OEM power steering reservoir is also a possible culprit. They're cheap so replace it.
Don't forget the rear diff fluid given your miles. I didn't see any other leaks back there but check the dynamic drive pump connected to the rear stabilizer. They also leak. If it's slightly wet or has a very slow drip ...they all do that. Leave it.
Changing what i mentioned above fixes the leak. Anything else is a bandaid. Check ebay.
Another vote for the pcv making the whistle. I've been thinking about an x5 with a 4.8. I'll be watching close!
I love n62, people hate on it but overall there isn't anything that's a major design flaw like there's no timing chain issues just gaskets need replaced
@@anthonyktiming chain issues are a big issue. Mine just went out pretty sure the guides broke
@@daffy4tw there actually not a issue on this motor I've seen it happen with this motor but for every 20 m62s that have a failing timing chain there'll be 1 N62. I have 190k miles on mine with no rattles or anything
I have this exact same car 2008 LCI w/ 20 way power adjustable seats, paddle shifters with sport button, m-sport, etc… only thing different is its in a lighter gray color. LOVE IT! I’ve had a few repairs to get done but nothing absolutely crazy. Only 108k miles so far!
Get yourself a coolant pressure tester, they are amazing if you work on bmw's, Just presurize the system and see where it drips
yup check my e60 restore video. thats how i pin pointed the valley pan gasket and coolant resevoir leak
just know that its gonna leak worse after you do that
That's a sick exhaust!
Those alternator oil seals are seriously hard work... but once you've done one they are easy. 550i are serious HP for CHEAP money.
Your videos are really awesome, I wish you would get more exposure! I tuned in for E39 content to inspire myself to work on mine, but i'm staying to learn more about cars in general since you explain quite well and have great video production!
Have you done a video explaining a bit about your history? I'm curious to learn about where you learned mechanic and such, I assume you were a bmw tech before?
Anyways cheers, really enjoying your videos :)
I may make a personal history video soon, I think people would benefit from learning how I got started working on cars because they're so many ways to get involved! Long story short, I got my foot in the door at a european shop, shadowed some great master bmw technicians, and spent a bunch of time learning and trying new things. These cars work very similarly, regardless what model/generation they are, which makes it easy to transfer the skills car to car. Thanks for watching!
For the airbag light, check the sensor on the battery positive terminal. They always go bad on E60/E61.
Agree. Check the IBS.
Well sometime it can be your seat headrest I got one on mine
Well sometime it can be your seat headrest I got one on mine
Well sometime it can be your seat headrest I got one on mine
Found out the noise was the crankcase vent valves, replaced those and when I did I accidentally broke the top pcv valve so replaced that to and haven't had that sound since!!!
On an n54 this sound is definitely the PCV system. So probably on an n62 too? Thanks for sharing, Dutch regards, Nico. (PS my injector nr5 (still index 5) gave up, so I'm changing my injectors at the moment.)
Anything vacuum pressure related...crankcase vent valve has one line going down to oil pan usually gets clogged and when intake is forcing vacuum in, while the oil pan vacuum won't release the clog the pressure becomes greater at the oil cap. 😉
Awesome - just bought a beaut of a single owner ‘10 low mile 650 convertible life garaged no codes but leaking like a siv!! I know where to start now. Much appreciate your videos ❤❤
Nice video, thorough inspection. Your garage lifts are amazing. Where can I get me some just like yours? Thanks in advance
This sound is because the pcv valve is closed and there’s no area to breathe or the air to go out
Correct! Thanks for watching :)
@@TheBimmerBarn How do I fix this? The same whistle is happening on
I just replaced both pcv valves and it has the its still squeeling. Has anyone solved this problem?
Yep ,,,, mine in my X5 was same. Wild noise.
@@beamer0128 you found the fix right ?
I just went through and replaced all the seals and hoses on my N62 in my 2005 545i. No more leaks and no more smoke!
Niiiiiiice 💪💪
How much that cost you? Local shop charging me around 10k plus for the job and a new tranny
the biggest issue for N62 is valve seals...they leak inside the engine not outside...The PCV yes, should be easy to replace
How that valve seals issue looks ? The leak inside ? My car is taking oil and smokes white after idle while throttle power
wish you lived close enough to possibly help me figure out what the heck is wrong with my 550i! I'm at the point of calling it quits on the car, even though I love this damn car....ugg my pockets are not deep or fat enough for this car now. But after watching this video, I DO KNOW SOMETHING TO GO CHECK OUT NOW.....THANK YOU
My oil leak on the passenger side came from from the vanos seals.
I have the same car. Ended up getting my engine swapped 8800. Next day that I got it back catalytic converter conversions code. If you need any headlights assembly and or rear brake light assembly I happen to have both pairs stock
The noise is coming from the PCV system trust me!!! Open up the oil cap when the noise starts up and release the pressure you’ll see the noise will stop… check if the two orange CCV on the valve cover are torn up.
When the pressure builds up air is being pushed out the front main seal causing the funny squeal noise!!! Please just trust me on the advice I’m giving you it’s nothing wrong with the engine.
lovely bmw hood over there haha!
I have the same sound in my 08 550i n62 let me know which pcv vacuum line it is!!!! Lol beautiful car btw!!!!
Just found your channel by chance, and I am looking forward to your videos. I have a 09 550i with a new coolant leak that I will be searching for myself.
Welcome aboard! I think we mentioned all the common ones, but good luck finding it on your car! It's quite tight around that motor 😁
When you started the car the passenger side flasher was blinking like there’s a short some where
That's a check-bulb sequence running on the car during each startup. It sends some pulses of electricity to all the lights in order to "listen" back and see which ones are blown/broken. You don't usually notice it on the halogen bulbs, but the LED's use so little wattage, that they actually light up during this procedure, completely normal! But I understand your thinking! Thanks for watching :)
Your power steering fluid is used in the active sway bar control so if that leaks like they all do your going to get a low reservoir every couple months
I did a valley pan upgrade, it was a pain, I broke slot of old plastic hoses in the process
Grate video i wish my 550i was working my engine died at 59,650 mile took the car to a local mechanic for upper timing cover gaskets and didn’t put some right and killed the engine coolant ran into the engine and Sized 😢
There are no issues with the Brake Switch. E60 equipped with dynamic xenon and/or comfort light package, keep the DLRs (Angel Eyesight) + Brake Lights on even when set to off on light switch. If you go through settings in your idrive there should be an option to turn off DLRs , which would also turn off illumination for the Brake Lights until you use ur Brake of course.
The seat belt/airbag warning is due to bad occupancy sensor in either passenger or driver seat. Either deal with the light in the cluster or replace the seat, bcuz DIY is stupidly frustrating & requires lots of patience.
The Brake Booster seal between the upr timing cover is notoriously known to leak. The Gasket set is cheap under $20 and labor is extremely easy until you get to the reinstall and has to line up the pump to cylinder. However, from the video it don't look like it's leaking, VVT Solenoid seal/O'Ring on both are leaking like they usually do.
From my humble opinion, if the N62 is older like 10 years a full disassembly is the go to solution. Most of the seals would be hard as rock at that time. All the pipes just minutes from cracking.
Your opinion is boosted
When he said “i see an oil leak on drivers side” i felt the pain
Just found your channel and love your videos. I have a 2008 550i as well.
How do you like your 08 ?
Auto or man?
just sold my 08 BMW 550i m sport for 8100$ moving on up to an E9X M3 the massive boat luxury cruiser was nice but i want my first m car!
Do you remember which element of the CCV you fixed to stop the whistling? I’ve changed the PCV valves but still whistling and sucking?
Check your hoses, could still be a vacuum leak somewhere else in the system causing the problem.
First time I experienced speed in a car was in this same gen 550 when my dad decided to hit 240KMPH
Hey man. So I had the airbag issue on my 550i and the culprit was the connector to the headrest on the driver seat. If I play with different seat position, where the back vent for comfort, the light will come on. I would have to the leave the seat as standard as I could so it will not come on. Play with the seat position. Good luck. I miss my car 😢.
By whistling came from valve cover, 1 bolt worked its way out, #5 cylinder
i have the same car and been trying to figure out where is the MAP sensor. cant find it on the internet and was hoping you knew
I’ve had my e60 545i 6 speed since 2015 and it’s a great car, right now I have the same issues for the airbag light because I changed my seats to an Lci, I also have a high idle witch I can’t find the issue
I have low idle in drive with my e65 750i
I still learn from u thanks
Thank you for commenting and watching the videos! I'll have more videos coming soon :)
Air bag light is positive battery terminal. And the noise is from pcv
Anybody know which radiator fan to buy for this car? Mine broke and I live overseas, want to buy an affordable one from amazon or ebay, but I want to make sure it will fit before I purchase
I LIKE THE WAY YOU WORK DUDE I WISH YOU WAS NEAR ME
Mines does have a low howl not like yours but a very low pick light howl only on idle. Mines isn’t having that same issue but still an issue I’m curious to see if anyone else is experiencing. To begin with I had the service engine light come on after I started the car. Beforehand I was at work chilling in my car waiting for it to warm up when I accidentally floored the accelerator causing it to redline in park. I was mad but ignored it, let it idle down, moved the car to a different spot, let it warm up until it was time to go back on the clock. Once work was over I cranked it over and 2 lights appeared as well as a message in the idrive center. The lights was the Yellow brake light and Traction control light. The idrive message I think said drivetrain malfunction and to drive moderately 🤦🏽♂️. For some reason the car was noticeably faster or more responsive. Normally the car is a little sluggish in the standard drive mode with traction control on. I didn’t want to drive in sport on the way back bc of the lights and idrive warning so I just turned off traction control and got on the eway. Highest I hit was probably 110 and I wasn’t pushing it at all didn’t even notice until I realized I lost traffic. Seriously the car felt different. So I got home parked the car and it sat for 10mins. Went back out to start it up again because I wanted to see if the lights would see be on. And they weren’t…but the service engine soon light came on and the car revved by itself to like 2k maybe 3k rpms and it did that little rev shit on every start up for a week straight then randomly stopped. I checked the code and it was a timing correlation code. Could be a number of things jumped timing, stretched chain, shifted cam, etc. or maybe it just needs plugs or coils bc it’s misfiring fs. Lol misfiring, howling, revving on its own, and the radiator hose just burst, oh and I just had to put a starter in it. My advice to any1 out there don’t get an n62 or a Bmw period 😂.
Your oil filter is clogged. Replace immediately.
I loved my 550i but I have an issue with starting up in the morning when engine cold after warning up it running smooth please give me some advise please ?
that whistling noise in from clogged PCV system 100%
great video a lot of info
Isn’t the purple atf a proper power steering fluid for BMW? Hope you gonna fix it all. Nice video!
On some old cars you'd use a red ATF, but if you check the cap of the reservoir, it will tell you which fluid to use, and this car uses that green CHF11-S. Thanks for watching Kukri!
This car uses green chf power steering fluid
There is a recall actually for the rear tail lights
Hmm I wonder if BMW will send me some free brake lights... 😅
Air Bag!!, check seat pressure sensor’s.
My 335I made that noise until I replaced the valve cover.
It’s insane to me that it’s considered “normal” for all BMW engines to burn a significant amount of oil during normal everyday driving. BMW considers it normal for their engines to burn between a quart of oil for every 750-2500 miles driven depending on which engine you have. This goes back to the 1990’s at least. Absolutely crazy. Below is an excerpt from one of BMW’s service bulletins on the issue.
“Oil Consumption specification:
- All BMW engines (excluding Motorsport) can consume up to 1 quart of engine oil per 750 miles at any time.
- Due to the increased engine power, all Motorsport engines can consume up to 2.5 quarts of engine oil per 1,000 miles at any time.”
My Last 2006 550i sport similar to this car maybe burned a quart every 10k miles. I bought it with 170k on it my buddy crashed 6 months ago it it had 270k on it. Had it 6 years it was a great car never left me stranded drove it Califonia to Florida and 10 other 1200 mile road trips. I just picked up another one a 2007 it is burning oil and needs valve stem seals but I got it so cheap might just drive it. I put in bars leak oil seal and the smoke stopped for a month but is coming back again not as bad. My first 550i had the seals done around 150k miles and it never burned oil very little.
@@brandonlerman1540 my kids mom has a 2005 545i and it’s a great car but a pain in the butt to do some repairs on and parts are not cheap. I replaced her Alternator Bracket Gasket which was a royal pain and took a weekend to do but saved her about $1200 over a shop doing the work and am currently replacing the Valve Cover and Upper Timing Chain Cover Gaskets. BMW really crams those V8’s into their cars leaving very little room to work.
@@porscheguy09 Yes I got lucky both times on my 550i e60 I have bought. Alternator gasket were just changed before I bought them. I just picked up a 2007 sport for 1000 bucks. Lady bought it for her daughter and took it to the dealer for oil leak. She wind up spending 500.00 for a new battery and 1200.00 like you said for alt bracket gasket repair. She wanted it gone after that. I might put a few grand into it but its pretty nice so far so good.
Bro in europe this car can be selled for about maybe 5000-7000$ sooo you are lucky man
Nice video! I have a question is the crankshaft sensor location on the bottom of the car engine or the top?
Bottom of the transmission bell housing 👍
Just a quick question if you don't mind me asking - can I pull out the chain tensioner on the N62 and change it for a new one like that?
The story behind the question: The previous owner of my car did some "magic" with red lube sealant around and probably inside the hydraulic chain tensioners and it is leaking oil a bit. BMW manuals are silent about this procedure and no BMW tech could tell me yes or no since they all do a complete rebuild when they have to touch this part.
Thanks a lot up front for any reply :)
I understand the concern, but you won't have any issues. I think the new tensioner has to be "primed" in oil before install, but otherwise it's safe to replace while the motor isn't running. Good luck!
@@TheBimmerBarn thanks for the heads up and btw the "...while the motor isn't running" got me smiling :D but yeah I get it. BTW what is your opinion about the washer that comes with the tensioner? Use it or not? Because the BMW manual says that the co-delivered washer should not be used (ISTA, FUB-HIL-HI-130001-A14-Verbau Messkettenspanner) but it also says "Stand März 2014". So I am not quite sure what to do now. But seeing the tensioner done by the previous owner I am seeing that there is a gap of the size about the washer....wich may be the reason someone has put so much red sealant everywhere :)
@@_J.P._ Might be worth grabbing the second washer, in case the first one fails.
it is maybe bad oil filter sometimes they make noise
yesss an n62 build
Great buy Chris ! Is the ccv system messed up by any chance ? Causing the squealing
Yes, hopefully fixed in our latest video!
bro need ur help ... i have the same car and i chnged th oil pressuwe sensor nd when i started the car it gave me ( low oil pressuer warning )
Yooo your 550i looks nice!! Bro what part of FL you in? It’s be cool if we can link up, lmk
Central Florida, around Orlando. Catch me on instagram and dm me! @chrisbuisson
Good video
Might be a gasket leak, the high pressure makes that sound. I had that on my e60 and got the gasket replaced
check the pcv system, it might be whats making that noise
Yes, I think so too! That's why removing the oil fill cap made the noise go away. Thanks for watching!
Clogged vacuum line ! ?
is this car worth buying?
Your tag lights are on too
If you do the timing chain cover gasket will you replace the timing chain guides at the same time?
No, don't believe these had any timing guide issues. Will be able to inspect once its apart, but not too worried.
i recently bought a 2008 550i with 121,xxx miles on it hope it’s good to me 🙏 what you think
from what i understand its easier to just take your wallet and light it on fire but not as fun
I think your squeal noise is from the pcv system
I think so too! Got one already ordered, looking forward to getting rid of that annoying noise. Thanks for watching!
What type of lift is that ?
Main belt on- squeaky noise.
Main belt off no squeaky noise , 🤔
it’s the pcv if you look it up enough you’ll find that if you switch valve covers from the original part to the updated oem part it causes this lol dude really went looking through his fuses
Hey man what lift is that you are using I’m highly interested in one, as I have a similar shop set up to yours. So if you can please point me in the right direction. It would be awesome.
It's the Quickjack SLX model! A great setup, around $1300 USD. I have a video showing more details, but you can find this in stores or online pretty easily. Thanks for watching!
what are the jacks you have and cost thanks Robert
Quick jack I believe. Sold at Home Depot, about $1500 for the middle weight rating. Cheaper one for small car and more expensive ones for suv
Lmao I have a 2008 550i. Has an oil leak and coolant leak I’ve been looking for days now to pinpoint.
Hi
Where did you get those hydraulic jacks?
Home depot, but you can get them almost anywhere online, or at Costco on sale sometimes! I have a full video: th-cam.com/video/604M7x7CfoY/w-d-xo.html
Dude, every damn seal on this car is failing. Is this just normal for BMWS? Never owned one but they seem like they need alot of TLC
What kind of exhaust do you have and would you recommend it ?
I like stock exhausts, sometimes a muffler delete is all you, but this car had a magna flow resonator and a muffler delete which is why it sounded so good. Thanks for watching!
water on belt can result in squealing noise
I changed my boost solenoid 3 times because my 2011 BMW 335i coupe keeps cutting out under full throttle and sometimes it’ll throw me into stupid mode as well. PLEASE HELP HELP HELP. I am sooooo frustrated and overwhelmed with this I had a BMW master tech look at it for months and he couldn’t figure it out!!! Im on MHD Stage 2+ with 93 octane pump gas only with full bolt ons and either a stock turbo or vargas level one or vargas level 2 turbo, the previous owner couldn’t prove to me that he swapped the turbo so I think its stock. GOD HELP ME im so close to ditching this piece of shit and driving it into a wall!!!!
Sounds like a boost leak. Need to get it properly diagnosed before you keep replacing more parts!
@@TheBimmerBarn Its some sort of voltage problem with the boost solenoid and it keeps changing too fast thats what my mechanic last told me
312k miles on my n62.
LETS GOOOO! That's so awesome to hear, I know this motor can do the distance. Any major services you took care of? (bearings, timing chain/guides, or valve seals?)
@@TheBimmerBarn I bought a 2004 545i in 2017 for a backup vehicle and fell in love with it. I started driving it daily, obviously a lot. But I've basically changed every gasket and oring for the cooling system and anything connected to the engine. The only thing I have not done is the valve stem seals. I started having blue exhaust smoke around 250k. When I did the valve cover gaskets around 275k miles I took a syringe and poured Barrs valve seal conditioner over each valve and let it soak over night. I did it again before I put the covers back on and sealed it up, and I haven't had exhaust smoke since.
I've only had one issue that had the car sitting and me scratching my head. The car would turn over but not start. So I changed the crank position sensor, and realized it was blowing a fuse in the IMV in the computer box under the hood. I thought the IMV was bad so I replaced it. At that point the valvetronic motors were not getting power and I had to get a schematic out that finally led me to the issue. It was the vanos solenoid wiring that was grounding out blowing that fuse which is also the fuse for the cam and crank sensor.
I've done a decent amount of work over all. I did replace the transmission, which I could have avoided by changing the fluid. I've replaced all the suspension components, I just replaced the alternator, I did the cic retrofit and got pretty familiar with inpa, ncs expert, winkfp etc.
But I do believe the n62 engine is very durable as long as you change the oil regular and add seal conditioner, change the coolant regular, and just keep up with it. I would also suggest that when your AC belt goes you get the AC belt tensioner that was installed on X5s. The engine already has a threaded slot to hold it, and you won't have to deal with that stretch belt any more.
@@billrichardson5386 Wow great e60 mileage!
@@doobiet If you listen to my engine it sounds like it has a lot of life left, and I keep my car clean and waxed etc. With all the new suspension components I put on including Function & Form type 2 coilovers, I think most people would think I had 100-120k miles. It's not for everyone though. If you dont do the maintenance and most repairs yourself it just wouldn't make sense to own. But that's kinda what has inspired me to keep it. It was really the first vehicle that I did any major work on outside of an oil change. I have been looking around for the supercharger from the B7 or B5, and if I can find one from salvage I'm going to attempt to put it on. We will see. Ive yet to find it separate from the engine.
@@billrichardson5386 you ever consider the ess tvs 2 kit? Or the new G1 kit? Should offer similar if not more more power than The Alpina blower
I just got that loud squeeking noise on my 2013 550i. Did you find out where it was coming from, and what was the fix?
Looking at a 545i, not to hyped about all this bs.
Worth the trouble if you love driving the e60 chassis
is throttle body ailment on these n62 engines?
Hmm, never had a problem with one myself or seen one in the shop. I know the N54 TB's had some issues but not these? Great question though
Hmm i have problem with 2cf8 and 2cf9
O6 550I 4.8 SAME NOISE WITH ACTIVE,NO VISUAL LEAKS I HEAR THE SAME SQUEAL FROM FRONT OF OIL PAN TO THE STREERING RACK,ALSO PULLD THE RANS DIPSTICK AND HEAD A HISS OR LIGHT SQUEAL,PLEASE HEELP, MY CAR HAS ALMOST 49,OOO MLES
OK IM GOING TO TRY THE OI CAP AND SEE IF IT STOPS,SO GREATFUL ANY HELPP
What are some common problems the N62 has?
Yes.
😂😂😂😂
Let me count the ways lol! Check youtube for a good N62 issues vid
Pcv valve
is chris getting grey hairs from fixing all these BMWS?
Yes 👴
@@TheBimmerBarn bro sometimes i fix my BIMMERS and im like damn i probably just aged two year and my hair receded lol
For the algo
Thanks mate 🙏
The worst car ever you have one get rid of it a money pool
О no... N62 is very bad engine,,,, probably the worst....
Maybe if not taken care of. But it’s actually a really good Engine if you know how to take car of a car. Going on 6 years now with my 545i (n62) 200,000 miles. Can’t be to bad of an engine
@@radianm6 love live the N62! just hit 200k on a 08 550 Msport
@@fadilyacoubou9221 now that’s awesome!! What kind of work have you done to it?
06 550i 190,000 miles. Replaced cable seals at 186,000. It's a great engine to me if maintained. Easy to work on if you can read and follow directions.
I have this same noise but it goes away after driving for some time? Would it still be this because im also thinking it may be my waterpump bearings.
Going to replace pcv valves asap
Get lucky the i don't see you around Florida