IT'S JUST TOO EXPENSIVE! Opinions on the British GP Ticket Prices
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- The British Grand Prix is important for a number of reasons. Sporting history, cultural history and the fact that 7 of the 10 teams on the grid have a base in the UK- So it's almost a display of the best of British engineering even if teams like Alpine, Mercedes and Red Bull aren't British-registered teams.
But recently, the boss of the circuit said that the sales of tickets this year are low because of Red Bull being too good, with lots of people pointing out the sheer cost of the tickets. Which is a mad thing to say, really.
So why are Silverstone's prices so high compared to the rest of the world? Why is it cheaper to go to Hungary or Spa for the price it costs to go to Silverstone? Let's have a look- And it's not just F1 but other live events too seem to be fleecing the public.
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A GA ticket to Le Mans this year was €115. That got me into the track for all 5 days. Even adding the on track camping to that(for the whole week) it was still cheaper than 1DAY of F1 at Silverstone!
though tbf the toilets are still better at Silverstone ;) but yeah Le Mans for me is the way to go.
@@princeoftonga is a GA ticket worthwhile … do you see enough of the action?
@@axelknutt5065 oh yes! There are many GA viewing areas around the track most on built up banks. Many also have views of big screens so you can keep up with the action out of your own view. However for the start and finish the viewing areas do fill up so it’s best to get there early to stake a claim at your preferred spot.
It's the same with the nürburgring. For 70€ you can stay at the track from thrusday to sunday. Camping is 20€ per night. So you're paying 150€ & get so many more things than in F1.
See "geoff buys cars " he wasnt happy !
Blaming Redbull dominance is comical.
When Mercedes were winning did not cause huge price increase.
Or Ferrari before them and in my days if you didn’t drive a Rothmans Williams you couldn’t win a race
Mercedes dominance was a boon for brittish GP sales, so it does make sense.
It also was viable for Ferrari to win.
It took 3 years for Redbul to become vulnerable in the slightest.
I'm nit paying 500 for a race I can predict the top 10 of.
@@StruggleGaming if Mercedes did not have lewis, would the prices have gone up?
Maybe
The track owners could've bumped up the price even with Lewis to earn huge profits knowing the british fans would pay it
Hell, even the Vettel-Red Bull Dominance didn't do that (and this was at the time where people actually cheered when Vettel's car went up in smoke). Has to be THE worst excuse.
I don't think they're blaming the RB dominance on the ticket prices increasing, more that people don't want to go because of the dominance
I'm lucky, a middle-aged lifelong F1 fan with an OK job. I wouldn't consider a ticket for a second. I'd love to go, but there are so many other things I'd save up for. How TF is a kid or a young adult in their first job expected to even get a look in?
I used to fly or drive to several European and North America tracks and either camp or stay in a cheap motel and I continued going to races there after I stopped going to Silverstone in 1997.
I'm an IT contractor and went to 11 of the 17 races in 1995 (including the two races in Japan and the last race in Adelaide) from the UK.
you dont , as Canadas Finance Minister was quoted saying " you will own nothing and be happy"
And if the kids don’t get exposed to F1 they’re not going to become hooked on the sport and once they have money they will spend it on gaming. Which means that the promoters are going to miss out on a whole generation of fans. Short term thinking
@@axelknutt5065what’s so bad with gaming?
Gaming and watching F1 in the 90s was what got me into Motorsports!
These days I have 4 cars and a Sim racing rig.
I drive at track days multiple times a year.
Without gaming I would’ve never got this deep into Motorsports.
@@rolux4853 not knocking gaming, just making the point if mum & dad take you to a GP you’re hooked for life. But if they can’t afford to take you, maybe like you they will become a fan but a big chance they won’t. (A few massive generalisations in there, I know)
If Silverstone got £10 million government subsidy, then the F1 race fee would go up by £10 million.
Yeah exactly. Same with HTB or LISA schemes, the house prices just coincidentally went up by the same amount to compensate. At least with this, you could write in the grant terms that the ticket prices had to be fixed to an affordable X price, or tracked to some meaningful value. But that requires trusting politicians, and as the last 14 years of Tory cronyism has shown, corruption is guaranteed, competency is not.
@@JellyLancelot it's like with Tesla. EVs get a tax credit, and Tesla jacks up the price by that same amount
i dont know how people dont grasp this basic fact. Its SOP for basically all businesses and government departments in the western world now. Try living in vic where a new scheme for 'current issue' that affects 2% of the population gets cheered on by the 2% as 'groundbreaking new free service finally acknowledge their right to existance' only for the same 2% to cry about it when it comes to tax time and their Centerlink payments dont cover squat, while a whole lot of other idiots shrug their shoulders and wonder why the place is flat broke and parliament is pretty much comancheros v hells angels without the guns and fisticuffs but all of the lawlessness.
This is why I only go to historic GP events. The tickets are reasonably priced, I have full access to the paddock, and the owners/drivers are more than happy to show you their historic machines up close. I get goosebumps seeing Lauda's Ferrari 312T2 out on the track with Andretti's Lotus 79 and Stewart's Tyrrell.
Went to one at Brands a few years ago. Fantastic day out.
Try the le mans classic. Best value ever
Quality stuff there
I’m thinking those will be the next tickets to shoot up though.
@@chrisstephens6194 Brands is one of the best places to watch F1 Masters.
The problem is, it allows the plastic fans who have a bunch of money to effectively pump and dump F1, so ticket prices soar, and the fans who are left cant buy a ticket because prices are too high, and once the plastic fans leave, its going to be a shock
Being called 'plastic', why would they stay?
@@jareth0205 That's the point. They're the netflix drive to survive crowd and once they bore of this, they leave and the bubble collapses. But you've pissed off the long term fans who have now left for good and you have a mess you can't fix for a long time
Just like football
It’s a business so yea these plastic are the difference between f1 and something like Wseries.
@@jareth0205 Because they are look at the amount of influencers who turn to up to these events who don't have the first clue about how F1 works. Only there to simply have photos taken for their Instagram then when they're criticised get people like you jumping up saying “mwuuuh that's rude...”
11 years ago, a GA ticket cost 150 for a weekend, now it’s 499. And the sport is no longer what it was either. Go to the touring cars instead
Yep 34 quid for a sunday, bargin.
Or British superbikes 65 quid for weekend
@@eddeduck 34 quid is less then a few drinks and a quick munch
And there is less available GA viewings areas than 11 years with introduction of GA+
Not a Brit, so maybe I don't know. But what's GA? The two things that come to mind for me are the (American) state of Georgia and Grand Am, which I doubt is ever crossing the pond.
I cant justify f1 prices. I stick to touring cars, bikes and classic racing.
Just did Le Mans for 3 people, Norfolk to LM and back., 1 Week camping, Ferries, Food etc including one grandstand seat for about £800 all in. (well, £800 + the cost of the replacement tyre after I got a puncture on the M11). Good value for 4 days of track action, drivers parades, pit and track open access etc.
i need to do europe again one day. there is something very cool about being able to go daytrip in a completely different country. i was stuck in place the twice ive been across there. dream holiday im stuck between either a bunch of countries in europe or cross country US on a motorcycle.
They did this in the US with the Las Vegas Grand Prix. A lot of people myself included were interested in going and had good money to spend to do it. Then tickets came out and they started at over $5,000 for a weekend pass. A whole lot of people like myself who would have paid even a thousand or more for a ticket said no thanks. Sure enough they didn't sell enough tickets and were desperately cutting prices in mid November. By that time it was too late to get a flight into Las Vegas and they really ended up taking it in the shorts where they didn't have to.
The people who run F1 have convinced themselves that there is no limit to what fans will pay for a ticket and that the sport will remain popular no matter what they do. Sooner or later reality is going to debase them of those notions. Reality is the harshest of mistresses. It never fails to amaze me how people can be successful and smart enough to get to be in charge of some really big enterprise and then turn out to be totally greedy, short sighted, and stupid.
Las Vegas the most boring 1,5 hrs long commercial disguised as a race. Wouldn't not even pay $1 for a ticket.
the absolute bone headed stupidity of insisting on playing around with broadcast and night/day races is bonkers, and basically f*cking up the planning that badly that ticket holding customers are getting booted out while cars on track because 'time gentlemen, please' is just the dumbest thing ive ever heard. The only reason we get away with late afternoon start times in the middle of yuppie central is because its a state government funded event, where they get more money back, than what they lose by reading the room and doing what they made 'legally binding agreements' with the locals to do. Which they pretty much do on principle these days anyway.
The Verstappen comments from silverstone are a red-herring. It is more than plausible that Norris, Hamilton or Russell could win, in fact I would be surprised if at least one of them isn’t on the podium.
just wait and see Max winning again mate, and im not at all a fan of him
I don't know why but recently F1 wants to make all of his racing weekends a mega spectacle or event and tickets become more expensive. I don't want that, I just want to enjoy the racing itself
This is the same with other sports. People say it’s expensive! So the sports promoters add more things that are not the sport (music/dancers/fairground…). This then further inflates the price. I’ve only ever been to Quali for F1 at silverstone, but watch BSB all the time. Loads cheaper and less frippery. Rugby is doing this whole expansion of the show too- it’s not attracting new fans and just inflates the ticket price. I could not care less if McBusted are playing the half time show- I’m with everyone else buying a pint! Save the money and make the tickets a quid cheaper for everybody
Because they want to attract a much wider audience, not just motorsport fans. It’s happening in all sports and entertainment.
Blame Bernie for selling out to the yanks, I have been a fan since when James took his title in 76, it's now become more like a soap opera as well if you look at the tripe DTS is as well
@@J1M1F i understand the theory- i really do- but it doesn’t seem to be working.
Ja. It's a bit like the F1 broadcast starting nearly 30m before the actual race. Not even interviewing drivers or anything, just stood around waffling about nothing... You don't care walk away from the broadcast cus the startime isn't all that clear.
Its inevitable inflation will make everything go expensive, but that ticket price is just too much to handle it
The correct barometer of inflation is how much a freddo costs.
@@AidanMillwardNormal or Caramel??? The FOS is better value for your money
@@AidanMillward The cost of a Freddo is directly proportional to your distance from Eric Boullier...
I remember 5 pence freddos (1990) now they are 50
I've been to BTCC twice this year and paid an average of £41 per ticket. I'd rather go to seven-and-a-bit BTCC events than one F1 Grand Prix.
Yep that and British GT are a great days out. Racing is almost non stop with the next race starting about 10 mins after the last finishes from 8:30am to 6pm.
I went a few times to silverstone to the f1 when prices weren’t bad, as said dodgy car park and all, the atmosphere was great but you mainly looked at screens then the prices went right up, I’ll watch it on tv now you see more, although I do go to BTCC events as there an action packed day same as historic
I stopped going to btcc when the dropped clio cup and ginettas
Exactly this. Thruxton cost £27 for a Sunday ticket and £17 for a grandstand seat and can even go round the pit lane and meet the drivers for no extra. A day full of great racing too.
@@user-ki4uc6rm9k old farts like me whine alot about the sound now but it really does make a massive difference. Adelaide and Melbourne with the old Atmo 10 and 12s when the first.... two or three, fly past you at top speed for the weekend, you legitimately did get a full rush of adrenaline just from the sound and the pressure. The fartbox hybrids do not do it at all and sound no different from Superbikes. In the past the atmosphere and sound was the drawcard, so youd go get your fill of noise petrol 250kmh hand grenades burning engines oil and rubber on the fri or sat but watch on tv on sunday so you could actually see the action properly. Now... well yes, theyre safer more reliable etc etc but almost all of the old attraction is gone.
Working the 'Minardi' exhibition at Melbourne town hall about 6 years ago with the 2 seat Sauber that still has an old atmo absolutely did it again for me, and that was a start up and slow drive down .... Swanston st. But that was literally standing behind the bastard when they started it.
That comment this week about Max’s domination putting fans off is utter BS and so lazy. In fact, I’d go as far to say it’s insulting to fans. It’s their ridiculous pricing. Pure and simple. That’s why ticket sales are down. People have wised up and aren’t going to put up with it any longer.
I went to COTA last year and I had to pay $650 per ticket for terrible unshaded metal bleachers in the 97°f Texas heat. I would never do that again, the heat and sun were killing me.
Bring an umbrella and some sunscreen next time. That way you don’t burn your minge
@@TellURide447 I had sunscreen but the bleachers were way too packed to use umbrellas. But the Texas heat is no joke, shit felt like cooking in an oven.
@@TellURide447 The real point though is the insane price for what you get, anywhere else bleachers like those would be $100 seats at most.
@@cerdic9 try 3000£ for two tickets for saturday and sunday in Monaco, and yes, bleachers :D (Grandstand L)
@@djn3kkid Monaco isn't nearly as hot.
Glad someone is saying this...
I'm a Merc and Hamilton fan, but trying to blame Max and Red Bull for it not selling out is so stupid
I've been an F1 fan all my life... Every year I want to go, and every year I just can not justify even the cheapest tickets...
I've just come back from Download 5 days, 3 days of music, it's expensive (£300) but still significantly cheaper than just GA for just Sunday with multiple DAYS worth of entertainment (incidentally, hope Donington has recovered by the time BTCC turn up, we might have destroyed the place!) lol
I dunno how Silverstone can sustain this level of cost
😂😂😂😂😂
Download festival right? May I ask who were the big acts this year?
Good God, I wouldn't pay 300 quid plus for Silverstone. That would be as insane as paying the wild markups for Vegas tickets. For the States, Vegas could be codename "The Cincinnati Clusterf**k." Silverstone could be "The Chichester Clisterf**k" for price rises so far over inflation.
Why Chichester ? it's nowhere near Silverstone.
I'll quote someone who went last year, highly respected in the flooring industry, massive F1 fan and was given tickets by a client, grandstand tickets for the race sitting in a good location on Sunday.
He told me over a pint that you see a lot more on TV, the track is shit, the weather is shit, and you get to sit down for two hours, see the cars maybe two seconds a lap and then watch the big screen. I've heard that complaint going all the way back to the 90s though and Liberty/FOM/whoever is in charge seem to do all they can to screw over general admission ticket holders, and then expect people to pay through the nose for sitting down in a seat for two hours to watch a race that you can pay Sky £30 for to watch the entire season from your living room.
To be fair, I have heard the same complaints from German, Belgian et al fans about those races, mostly Spa and when we had a German GP the complaints were the same so I'd argue it's not a Silverstone specific issue, it's an F1 issue that nobody wants to deal with. It's been reported that in Canada, whoever was in charge came along and blocked off general admission fans from seeing the race by whacking a giant black sheet over the fence and nothing was said about it. Least with Spa you get some good beer and food. Silverstone, you get a cup of tea and something, I'm not sure what
EDIT: Asked him, he got general admission for Fri/Sat and then the grandstand tickets for race day totally free and he told me he still feels like he got ripped off by F1
Tbh that sounds more like a criticism of attending Motorsport in person than a criticism of F1. If you want to watch the race don't go there in person but if you are looking for the experience of being there and hearing/feeling it with the atmosphere then go.
@@neblolthecarnerd this basically, TV will always be superior for spectating since you can see and hear most things whereas irl you're stuck at one corner.
Going to tracks are for the experience, getting autographs, getting up close, interations etc.
Some tracks are better than others for spectating though, like donnington where you can see half the track from one location due to elevation changes.
Silverstone is extremely flat so you aren't really going to see much outside of where you're sitting.
I still have a piece of gravel from donnington from when I was a wee lad.
It's the same with any live sport. Much better on TV. The only plus for being there is the atmosphere
@@JuicedOnKids there is only one place where I reckon you would get more in person and that's NASCAR since there's a lot of tracks where you can see the entire place from a grandstand ticket.
@JuicedOnKids same with thruxton, the area on the hill at noble, you should be able to see nearly the entire circuit (was planning to go this year for btcc but couldnt... next year though!)
It happens here in the US and Canada. In 2002 I could buy a general admission race day ticket for $65USD. And now, 22 years later, that same ticket is $200. In 2002 $200 got you a ticket sitting at the exit of the hair pin. Here’s a interesting fact…The US Government is currently pointing the finger at high ticket prices at many US races and shows of all types. The offender is a company called Ticket Master, a company owned by none other than…Liberty Media.
I believe I've heard of this company of late: I've heard the prices of Taylor Swift's concerts in the US were so eye-gouging that people were flying to my home country of France, having a nice week of tourism and a good hotel in or around Paris, AND the ticket for the concert around here for a cheaper total price because of some yield-management over tickets.
It's outrageous.
Wait they own the devil too?!?!
Ha that's interesting ... I didn't know they owned Ticketmaster! That explains a lot!!
bro....... i never knew they owned Evil Incarnate Inc.
Ticket master are the devil... I can't even go to metal or rock gigs anymore it's just a fucking ripoff
In 2010 when I was a 20-year-old student I bought myself and my dad a ticket to the British Grand Prix for his birthday.
Now as a 34-year-old adult with a "proper job" the cost of just going myself is way beyond what I would consider justifiable.
Haven’t been to an F1 race in over 15 years. The reason, nothing today can replicate a 19,000 rpm V10 screaming around the circuit that I saw in the 2000’s
same here, now it is only 1600 cc and 6 cilinders...
A. F'n. Men. Its just not the same, and unless youve been there and heard it, you wont get it.
@@gerard4676 fartboxes that sound absolutely identical to superbikes going past, and i can tell you that from being trackside at both of those at some stage.
Seems to me you never visited an actual race. You see, you won't even hear the sound because most of the fans are loud.
To add another point to my earlier long comment, British Grand Prix profit or loss is entirely contingent on the F1 hosting fee, which effectively eats the vast, vast majority of revenue generated. The BDRC is a minor player, in effect, in the British Grand Prix finances. Ticket prices reflect the need to cover that "fee" which has the effect of putting all the risk on the BDRC for an event that is in reality an F1 production. The BDRC is like a shell company through which money is funnelled, protecting F1 from fluctuations in the economy.
We should view the BDRC's statements in that context. "We can't sell your tickets because you're putting on a shitty show". Its F1 that needs to help them out, not the government.
I’m off to the AirTatoo this year. One of the, if not the biggest air shows in the world. Over 250 aircraft from about 25 nations. There is a 5.5 hour flying display and you can see everything, unlike Silverstone where there’s parts of the track you can’t see. For chance to feel and see military jets like the Eurofighter Typhoon thundering through the skies on full reheat flames out the back, tail sliding on the turns, I will be paying just £75 for the Sunday.
there is a big ticketmaster problem, they take about 50-60% of profit before the events take a cut
You nailed it, Graham. TicketMaster and other reselle😮rs extort huge prices from the general public.
Guess who ultimately owns Ticket Master? Yep, Liberty Media.
My first and only experience of going to a GP was Silverstone, some time in the 90s. I can't remember what it cost, but I can remember clearly what a disappointing experience it was. It was virtually impossible to find anywhere to sit / stand where I could see the track, and even when I could I only just got glimpses of the cars.
I ended up turning around and watching the whole thing on the big TV. Which I could have done at home for a lot less money.
We're seeing a similar problem in baseball, which is why even fringe playoff contenders have a hard time selling tickets.
One seat in the 100s at the Skydome cost me $200 CAD.
Meanwhile when I went to Japan I saw 5 games for the same amount of money. 3 Games in the 100s and 2 in the cheering sections.
The food/beer was also better quality and like half the cost. Jerseys were also $70-$80 instead of $250, and of much better quality as well.
It's a symptom of the obsession with "line go up" and not stopping to think about what happens when that line stops going up.
I went to Silverstone 2014,15,16 and 22. I’d love to go again but anything over £350 for the weekend isn’t worth it. Planning to go to Hungary next year where it’s cheaper to buy flights, tickets and hotel for the same price as a seat at Silverstone
I bought a 4 wheel season pass from the MSV group this year. It gives me access to every 4 wheel event at Brands Hatch, Donington Park, Cadwell Park, Oulton Park and Snetterton, that includes full weekend access, and the events are pretty big ones as well like the BTCC, British Truck Championship and the British Endurance Championship, and yet that still cost significantly less than the one day general admission for Silverstone, madness
Now you guys know how Americans feel about F1 tickets
To be fair when it was at Indy it was cheap.. But yeah now no way...
@@stevenwork95cota isn't too bad either especially compared to Miami and Vegas. Can't wait for the proposed Chicago race where you get robbed buying the tickets and then robbed by the locals.
@@stevenwork95 and it's not just F1 that is expensive, Indycar tickets are quite expensive as well. For example for me to attend the race in Portland this August, it costs $150 for the cheapest ticket & that's just for the race. By contrast I only paid $20 to attend the NASCAR Xfinity Series race at the same track a few weeks ago & I got a complimentary autograph session & pit walk with my ticket. Indycar wonders why their series isn't growing & ticket prices are a major reason why especially when compared to NASCAR.
@@chrisguardiano6143 Xfinity race prices are pretty good because it's a lower tier series where hardly anyone actually cares about compared to the big show. If you think Indycar prices are bad the NASCAR Cup prices are way worse, and that's not counting how hotels and other amenities in the area crank their prices up a week before the show and then drop them a week after when they hear stock cars are in town.
After seeing how much Super Bowl tickets go for, I'm surprised anyone bothers with sport in the USA.
This year of any since '21, the "Max excuse" is the weakest one you can think of. There are 3 British drivers with a genuine chance at winning. The place _should_ be heaving! If the crowds are artificially low because of the cost, it's a tragedy (at least from a British petrolhead's POV 🤷🏻♀️).
I totally agree they are to expensive
This is the first year I’m not buying a ticket for myself and my 16 year old son, if I was to buy two tickets for the Sunday and sit on a grass bank in a camping chair it would set me back £618 plus the £60 for parking for one day. I’m sorry it’s no longer justifiable.
I'm more of a bike fan myself, I'm expecting MotoGP prices to start going up from next year now Liberty are involved. But I'm going World Superbikes next month at Donington. A adult ticket cost me £60.... Yes just £60 for the whole three days. Ok at early bird prices but still the best value for money by a country mile for a world championship series that comes to the UK. That gets you full access around the paddock etc. you don't get that with MotoGP or F1.
Starting at £309pp for GA on Sunday. I'm sure I priced Abu Dhabi and you get access to a grandstand and catering for that.
Vegas prices were nuts, too. Big money but a shit track. I laughed when prices co!!speed due to low demand and all the people who paid full price got mad.
Even more nuts, the race isn't technically IN Las Vegas. It's in Paradise, just like the Caesar's Palace race in the eighties
And they kicked people out trying to watch free practice on top of that
@@DanielDorn-tr7tw No such thing as free practice. Practice 1, 2 and 3, none of which are free to attend.
@@terrystevens5261 Dude they are called Free Practice sessions. FP1, FP2 and FP3.
As an American who is also a NASCAR & Indycar fan in addition to F1, I have to say that Indycar faces the same problem F1 does when it comes to high ticket prices & this is a major problem in terms of limiting its growth. For example for me to attend the race at Portland (my closest race since I live in Seattle), I would have to pay $150 for the cheapest ticket & that is just for the race. By contrast I paid only $20 to attend the NASCAR Xfinity Series race there a few weeks ago & I got a free autograph session & pit walk with it. NASCAR should take full advantage of the high ticket prices in both F1 & Indycar to attract new fans with their cheaper ticket prices, especially in areas where they share races in places like Nashville, Vegas, Austin, & Miami.
Convinced i can remember people were complaining about the ticket prices back in the times that we're now calling cheap, and the problem has always been that even if it's sold out Silverstone isn't making any money and can't afford to upgrade anything.
for a reference, for the indy 500 a bronze badge which gives you access to all practice and qualifying (8 days), plus being able to walk in the garages, and the most expensive raceday ticket will cost you around £325 total
When the USGP was at Indy, I could do Saturday and Sunday for about $150. Most of that was gas, from driving 400 miles total, and parking. General admission tickets were $20-$25.
My daughters went to see Taylor Swift in Cincinnati. My wife spent $1200 for two tickets.
I hope you're daughters appreciate they have loving parents.
Great stuff as always
The crazy thing for me is using the same metric of spa, I live 20 minutes from Silverstone and it would be cheaper for me to drive to spa and go to the race than it would be to go to Silverstone
8:10 you and me both. Matey called: you wanna go to Peter Gabriel? Heck, yeah! Maybe my last chance! Base ticket: €190. That for a seat a mile from the podium, possibly behind a pillar. I wouldn’t pay a tenner for that.
We didn’t go. Sorry, Peter.
The last time I was at Silverstone for race day was 1997. Prior to that year there was a price for the stands on the north side (£150) and a lower price (£100) for the South stands. In 1997 they all cost £150 and I was in the stand on the inside of Becketts.
I had been going to Silverstone since the early 1990s with a GA ticket but they were building 'special enclosures' (concrete areas) and charging more for them. I used to drive up on the Thursday morning pitch the tent and try and get into the track (which I did several times then getting into the pits and paddock).
in 2003 (?) I went to Silverstone for the Friday mainly to see the new layout and a GA ticket put me back around £45. I had been to Donnigton Park the week before (it may have been the week after) and paid a similar price for all three days.
It's crazy. It's cheaper for me to have a seat in Ainfield for Liverpool FC vs Everton
I did some research a couple of months ago and found out I could get flights and tickets to the Indy 500 for cheaper than tickets to the Silverstone GP. I only live in Scotland.
They’ll go down when people stop going.
Everyone that complains about the expensive tickets to Miami should go to the Indycar race in St Pete or the Rolex 24.
A fraction of the cost and a better show.
Even the Daytona 500 is way cheaper
We used to go every year as a family, but we just can’t make it work anymore. I worry for the survival of the circuit when the current (possibly Netflix inspired) wave of interest wanes and numbers start to drop.
Yeah, that's why I feel Silverstone needs to branch out to WEC, IndyCar, Formula E and other motorsports to make sure Silverstone is financially viable, if F1 doesn't work, why not let Brands Hatch or even Donnington give the British GP another go while Silverstone is given to other motorsports.
the problem with WEC is the current calendar is now very stable, and like with MotoGP the costs of hiring Silverstone are eye wateringly expensive compared to other circuits. In fact the whole Wing facility is a bit of White elephant as they didnt pay to connect it up to the power grid properly, its powered by generators instead and the costs are astronomical for running it over a whole weekend, Silverstone dont like premium events using the old pits complex, which is cheaper to run, but makes them look less premium. And so it becomes a game of poker, MotoGP won a concession and so arent paying as much to use the Wing as Silverstone would like because Donington is always ready to step in for them, with WEC theyre not constrained by needing a British round, even if we'd all like one, so are happy to go elsewhere, and Silverstone are the only F1 approved track in the UK, except for some kind of street circuit race, which is why Liberty every so often keep dropping hints about doing that instead, just to keep Silverstone on their toes, and with the British based F1 teams demanding there is a British GP at least.
@@mitchdesertsquiddogaming Loads of other catagories race at Silverstone, and Brands Hatch no longer attain the safety standards required by the FIA for a GP.
The problem started when Silverstone was given the monopoly in 1987. Prior to that the race alternated between Silverstone and Brands Hatch. I seem to remember admission was about £17. Not long after, the price at Silverstone jumped to over £30 and has continued to escalate ever since.
Perhaps somebody could check my memories.
That is Shocking 😮 !!! Not sure if this is related but the F1 TV Pro annual subscription. Last year $44.99, this year $59.99. Breaking my 🎱🏀 😢
I think they are over capitalizing and coupled with the politics, gimmicky regulations and generaly poor directorship, F1 will force people to go elsewhere. Besides, it just doesn't feeling like the passion for going racing is there anymore. My 2c.
Damn 59.99? For me it's €100+ 😮
Liberty are ruining F1, tickets are a rip off also all home driver's do well in their own GP this sport is looking more and more like a controlled distraction every week. Good videos 👍
In 1965 I went to Silverstone for my first GP (won by Jim Clark) with 5 friends in a Humber saloon belonging to the father of one of them. The entry price was £2 for the car and everyone in it. Adjusted for inflation I think that works out at about £10 a head in today's money. Happy days.
The funny thing that makes his point that Maxs dominance is to blame is that anyone watching F1 this season has seen that it’s no longer just RB dominance😂 we should be really hyped for this years British gp but because of prices there’s 0 chance I would go
I'm going to Monza this year and I paid €120 for a general admission ticket. Give the FE in London a try of you want a day out, it's 55 pounds, easy to get to and there's plenty to do, the race is always good as well
I’m going to silverstone this year, I’m paying £250 more than my last time there in 2021 for the same grandstand. If the prices stay at this insane level I won’t return, I’d rather go to Austria or Hungary next year
Part of me thinks that it's a result of a bad deal with liberty media that means ticket prices have been blown up to pay the fees, but..even the Silverstone classic which morphed into the Silverstone festival in recent years is £100 a ticket
Yep, and the rationale is horrendous as well - now there's a concert (McFly or Busted or Steps or Sugababes for god's sake!) "included" in the increased price, as well as a load more merchandising and 'attractions' for kids.
All well & good (I guess...?) if you're an absolute super-normie who's going to show up to Silverstone for a 'random day out', but not exactly a race-focused historic racing festival at a racetrack for racing fans....
A group of us were planning on attending UK F1 back in the late 80's. A few of us went on practice day but for race day we pooled our collective 'race day spend', bought top food n drinks, had a home GP party watching the race on tv. Great food, great company, no travelling and tv coverage better than at the circuit. And that was when it was well under £100 a ticket.
I loved going to Silverstone for WEC. A total bargain! I paid £35.00 in 2013/14 with included Pit Walk to meet the drivers and cars also get autographs!!! A support race and a 6hrs of Endurance no restrictions to track grandstands, I even got videos of pit stops from above the pit lane!!! How much would that cost in F1!!! The price went up when Porsche entered to £45.00 but it wasn't that big a jump. Still under £50.00 for a good day of motorsport.
To be honest, the way the spectacles around the race days have increased, it’s pretty clear that what Formula One actually wants is to pivot to be an exclusive high class and wealthy customer base experience. It’s trying to be the fire festival. Instagram models, influences, celebrities, Rockstars. It always had a bit of that, but there was always plenty of room for everybody who wasn’t that. The prices seem to suggest that they want to bring in exclusivity.
lack of government investment isn't the reason for the high prices. It's government investment that's caused the spike in prices because that inflates hosting fees above true market rates. That means private ventures, like SIlverstone, have to pay above real market value for hosting a race.
It is not just Britain. We have been going to Canadian GP since 1996. This was our last trip. Can do Long Beach for less than a third of the cost with much more track activity. Next year for the price of the GP I figure we can do LB, Indy 500, Toronto and probably throw in the 6 hours at the Glen. What is the best value for my motorsports budget?
It was pretty disgusting to hear the British GP promoter trying to blame Max for low ticket sales, some people's bias towards drivers are reaching it's lowest form. Currently F1 is extremely competitive bcz RedBull no longer is the dominant car but if they still can't sell tickets then something is wrong with them, FIA & F1 should be more protective of their drivers when others go too far in their comments like the one made recently.
Appreciate the shout out to BriSCA at Hednesford. Most short oval racing events cost between £12 and £18 per adult and many places allow kids to go free. Bigger events usually cost a little more but if you live in the UK you'll have a short oval within 1 hour drive which will provide somewhere between 4-6 hours of racing action.
Just looking for tickets for COTA in Austin this year. $475 and up for 3 day ticket for reserved. $389 for general admission , it's silly in the US too, cheaper than Miami or Vegas
Went to Brands Hatch one year to watch the truck racing - was as good as the F1 that I went to in 2014
I have a personal history with both Watkins Glen and Road America, and those are two of my favorite layouts in sim racing as well. However, in spite of it being flat, Silverstone is right there with them for me. I can't think of any track with more TYPES of corners and sequences of corners than Silverstone. I hope they get that pricing business sorted out. You are the type of real fan that deserves to be able to go. People like you make racing relevant.
For open wheel racing in the UK Formula E in London is worth a look. Most (in fact I think this year all) of the seats are indoors so no problems if the weather comes over all... well, British. Transport is a breeze, there's a fair chunk of stuff to do at the venue and as it's easy to leave and return you can always make use of having London on the doorstep. Provided you get in early enough it's even fairly easy to get hotel rooms within walking distance that don't require open wallet surgery. Best of all it's still relatively affordable with tickets running from around £30 for one day up to around £180 for the full weekend which as its a double header means two full race days including qualifying on both days.
I recently went down a YT music rabbit hole and came across an interview from Youngblud? Youngblood? maybe and he was so upset that his fans couldn't get a ticket to see him from Ticket Master that he decided to cut them out completly and sell his tickets himself for £50 pounds. Not sure how that went but i was impressed by his ideas and maybe entertainment in general shoud just cut the middleman out and get back to what really matters. The fans!
I've been to Imola (2002), Monaco (2004), Spa (2015), Silverstone and Hockenheim (2018) and Spain (2019). Ticket prices are now such that I wont be going to F1 again.
I also did Goodwood FOS each year 2015 to 2021, but thats also now priced me out.
The last couple of years I've done Le Mans for a whole WEEK, which even including Eurotunnel and fuel is cheaper than any of the above.
Went to my first Le Mans in 1987 and the next month the Mansel Piquet British GP the 3 day ticket cost me £34. Happy days
Some years back, I was chatting up someone who came from Bristol to watch a gig here because coming here on a BRS-OPO cheap flight was much MUCH cheaper than watching the same band in London a few days later. If I'm not mistaken even the roundtrip airplane ticket was cheaper than the train fare just to get there.
You are so right. Prices are ridiculous. I have been wanting to take my (now 19 year old) lad to Silverstone for years, but being a low paid NHS employee, it is more out of reach than ever now. As you rightly point out, it is not just F1. We are gig goers as well, but prices at the 02 in Greenwich (a 20 minute drive away) have gone so stupid lately that it is almost impossible to see an artist I like. I recently worked it out that would be cheaper for me to buy 2 tickets to see Bill Bailey in Brighton, plus petrol and even stay overnight, than it was to get a ticket in the gods at the O2. Also consider he is only one guy and not a full band as well!! OK, I know Bill has a big stage show as well that would put a lot of bands to shame, but that is not the point. What do they expect? At some point, something has to give surely?
I thought that the idea of dynamic pricing was to make sure empty seats don’t happen because the price is going to be exactly the maximum amount that the customer is prepared to pay
WEC, at least last year in Monza, was absurdly good price for the offering.
Three days (with Friday being free entry for everyone!) with a paddock access (not incredible, but still with some perks included) on Saturday and admission (with no seats assigned) on Saturday and Sunday, being under-25: 75 Euros.
Absurdely cheap. I will seriously consider next year to go to Imola.
About the Italian GP in Monza don't know, maybe a lawn tickets but nothing more, if I'm lucky...
Been going to Silverstone for years and the cost has gone up at a disproportionate rate, this year ( as in pervious years) have 2 tickets at Club Corner for the weekend and also a pit walk on the Thursday. Camping at Woodlands from Wednesday to Monday Total £2500.00. You can go on a nice holiday for that sort of money, probably the last one for us. May go to one of the European races next year. Love the place but it is pricing its self out. Nice video that makes us all think about our national institution.
Bob Mould gig tickets nearly doubled between Australian tours. 😢
Nice of you to give stock cars a mention 👍
Hi Aidan, I've just come across your channel. Great commentary on a subject, that is a big talking point. Yes, this may be the first year that my son and I do not attend the Silverstone F1. We normally attend every year but I refuse to spend that kind of money for a 3-day event. It will be heartbreaking for my boy not to go but the financial climate is very different. Ive told him I will use the money to put aside for a holiday. I may have to look at other tracks but it all depends on other life events so it may not be feasible even then. I will be gutted as a parent as we look forward to the preparation, interviews, camping and the track itself which is magical. This seems to be the sign of the times now. If anyone can offer me and my boy entry for the weekend at Silverstone I will gladly take charity!
I love motorsport, I love this and I don't think I've agreed with you more in regard to this video. Spot on Aidan.
I remember seeing Pink Floyd live in the late 80's (David Gilmore version- Momentary Lapse of Reason tour...) cost a whopping $29. Really miss those days :(
Last year the cheapest ticket (General admissions) on a Sunday was £550!
Its pretty much decided for me that I'll never be able to go again to the race.
Laughs in Dutch where prices have been seemingly random high numbers for years. Our prices were even higher than yours, even before inflation went mad.
Meanwhile, a racing day ticket for WEC? €55 and you can go absolutely everywhere. F1 is dead to me.
Montreal was the same way. Being given tickets at least reduced the blow, but the gouging on and off track was horrendous and you're basically trapped for the three days having to mortgage the childs spleen to pay for anything.
Sad to hear that even this GP has gone down the tubes.
Taking a longer historical view, I attended the British GP and Brands Hatch in 1976, qualifying and race over 2 days. While I don't recall exactly how much it cost, I am sure it was not more than 25 Pounds. And that was about the same as I paid for the other races I saw that year: France, Austria, Germany, Holland, Canada, and US. It was good racing to see, too, very good value for the fan. I've been thinking for quite a while that F1 is not economically sustainable in so many ways, the cost of the machinery being very obviously so. This is another aspect of that economic madness. It will have to change, sooner or later.
I was at Brands in 1976 also. was spectating at Paddock Hill Bend where it all kicked off at the start. i hope it wasn't you throwing bottles on the track when they said Hunt would not be allowed to take the restart lol. Happy days.
The problem is that there is higher income inequality. There are still enough people that can afford the tickets and that will buy them.
It is what also affects the housing prices.
I used to go to the Silverstone Classic, but even that is a £100+ ticket now. There is much better value in my MSV 4 wheel season pass, around £200. Multiple, good tracks, BTCC, BGT, historic and club racing. MSV have kept prices steady. No way should tax payers subsidise Silverstone. That said, I did pay £90 to see Indycar at Rockingham in 2001.
Wooow... you just made me check mine & yup.... £80 for the North Stand (and no refunding for the shortened race!). ASCAR was much better value! ;)
F1 as a business has never been interested at all in fan attendance, it's all about advertising on TV.
Great video, yes people should protest and not go , then watch the price drop , i looked but don't understand why a 4 day ticket is 429 but 2 day is 509 for no frills
I stopped going to Silverstone a few years back, cost was a factor, but so was the integrity, or lack there of, of the sport. The first missed year was largely cost, as I weighed up the value of going the tickets sold out. The next year, well, my interest had died quite a lot. Now I just watch the highlights on TH-cam when I get a few minutes to myself, sometimes as much as a week later. I have no real idea who is where in the championship anymore, but I do have a hope that certain drivers will do well.
Just to be clear, I watched the 'Schumacher years' waiting for the challenge to come from the other teams, I sat through years of Vettel doing the same, and then Hamilton, though I concede I was interested in him winning at the time. I even put up with having to watch highlights of half, and later nearly all the races, but when you stop following your own rules no amount of 'competition' is worth it. That was the day I called time.
The real killer for this topic however, is that even if I did have an interest in watching it live again, I wouldn't pay that just to get in!
On the Taylor Swift front, many Americans travelled to Liverpool, and paid excessive, overly inflated hotel costs, to see her because it was still cheaper than watching her show in the States, and apparently it was still expensive here.
The same thing has happened at Montréal
2022 - Sunday general admission cost C$130
2024 - Sunday general admission cost C$250 ish.
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As a floridian we welcome you with arms to the Overpriced GP club (:
The Miami GP prices make this seem like peanuts in comparison lol. I’d never in a million years pay that money to see a crap f1 race.
@@augustortizagreed, Miami is a mess.
We're seeing a NASCAR like bubble in popularity, so ticket prices are basic economics. As long as they keep selling out, tickets will keep being this expensive.
When the bubble inevitably bursts, we'll see what happens.
Fewer people will go, and only the true racing fans will remain - who will then receive increased prices; because fewer tickets are being sold.... This is not the first time Silverstone in particular has been through this cycle.
I went to Silverstone last year, £25 to get into Silverstone to explore the Museum and was also able to watch some open wheel racing at the Luffield 2 corner, it was raining on and off and the stands were pretty much empty me and a friend saw a couple of spin-offs.
Went with friends in 2022, it was great. We check the website when the tickets were released the next year to see the massive price spikes and just had to bin it off
Looking forward to that league race tomorrow 😉
In regards to the price of concert tickets. Since the invention of Spotify the model has flipped on its head. At one time bands made an album and that bagged them a few million and they took the album on tour which would generally lose money but promote the album. So from the days of the Beatles to the Arctic Monkeys you could see a great band for a few quid. Now, barely anyone buys an actual physical album, it’s all streamed which earns a just a fraction, so then you get the likes of Beyoncé, Taylor Swift etc charging £150 for a ticket up in the heavens and £600 just for general standing. But even your old bands are heading this way, I’m going to see QOTSA this weekend for £85, the last gig of theirs I went was in 2009 for £35.
Last show I went to was Iron Maiden in 2017 and that was £60 for mid tier seating. I wanted to go to the wrestling in Glasgow recently (Clash at the Castle) and that was £300 for nosebleeds.
I've not been able to return to my local motorsport venue since the pandemic and I don't see that changing anytime soon either :(
I mentioned this on other videos talking about the same sort of thing. I think that the post-Covid haze of FOMO is finally starting to clear up. People still want to go to things, but they've realized that the price-value equation no longer makes sense. They might decide to go to one big event and skip all the others, or go to a few small events and miss the big show. I think one of the things that has helped the Indy 500 regain some of its luster in central Indiana, is that the Colts are kind of mid, but the season tickets at Lucas Oil Stadium are through the roof. You can attend every track day of the month of May for less than the cost of a nosebleed season ticket. I don't think it's going to stay cheap, because Roger Penske has given me no reason to think it will. But for now, it's an amazing value compared to other local sports.
An IMSA weekend pass for the September race at Indy is incredibly cheap compared even to Indycar.
Friend just flew out to Austria to watch the GP. He paid £125 for a ticket at the stand on the right hander at the end of the start/finish straight. Even including flights and hotels, Silverstone makes this look like decent value.
It is beyond a doubt the best event to go too. Not only the race but the entire weekend including good live music, food and beer. The campsites are incredible. Saying that we are going to the Dutch GP this year as it’s cheaper. Hopefully back at the British GP next year.
Off to Doningtonpark in August for the Truck Racing Weekend, admission for Saturday, Sunday with Grandstand seats for both days and 2 nights in a hotel has cost me £240, which I think is great value