its been about 2 year and raptor camp aggro is still bugged for master yi and Viego. if they cant fix those, i doubt a bug on yorick will ever be fixed.
the real first pay to lose skin was hextech kassadin which added an effect showing where he would land when he r'd it was first only on that skin, but then they added it to base kassadin and every skin.
its because some skins force orientate you directly down so the camra can see the animation better most dont but some like the starguardian xayah and rakan i belive do it
@@BrianSantosF no because when theres almost 170 champions in the game, no one on the dev team is gonna have the thought that a) Yoricks facing direction would have a gameplay difference b) It would be something that anyone even uses while recalling so when the VASTLY easier option is to make the character face down, thats what they're gonna do. (If you don't believe me, the fact 15 years in and this is the first time its happened to my knowledge should be evidence enough)
@@tommo4356 Hmm, who would have thought that changing the champion movement on a specific skin for no reason would cause a gameplay impact, and they actually had to check the champion skills before doing it, completely unpredictable, you're right, Riot's 100% innocent, it is common sense in game design that is wrong, and they actually should actually charge double for that skin for you to buy, sorry for my previous mistake
@@BrianSantosFthey already said there was a reason, the fact that its easier. Yeah they COULDVE caught the mistake before it happened, but the animation team is seperate from the gameplay team, so niche interactions like this would be completely excusable for them to miss. Theres no reason to assume the worst all the time
@BrianSantosF you're saying it like this is the first time they've made a champ face forward in a recall, but it's not, and the skin designers probably didn't know that maiden was coded to stand behind Yorick so they just made him face forward. And as for "who would have thought...", I can almost guarantee that until you saw this video, you've never thought about a champions facing direction in a recall having an effect on gameplay. If you did, good for you, you should get hired by riot so they never miss anything again
I feel like its a lot easier for one person to fully understand the intricacies of a champion than have everyone in the company know every little thing about every champion. That's why the pbe exists, to test what the dev team don't have time to test, so if it's not reported on there, it likely wont get fixed before live.
all the most new skins have an automatic "face the camera" for the recall, so that the recall animation is oriented properly. Other champs don't have this maiden mechanic tho, so this is the first time this feature is a problem
Ngl, I never know you to be using the clickbaity title so I fully believe it clicking into this vid and boy u did not disappoint. That tactic of your I also do it from time to time as necessary.
surprised you said this is the first pay-to-lose skin when dunkmaster darius had a significantly worse bug when playing vs. yorick, when darius would w yorick's w sometimes the animation would bug out and he would self-stun until either the yorick w disappears or darius w ends (4 second self stun btw), it happened with all darius skins for awhile and then after a bug fix only happened with dunkmaster for several years, was fixed around 2019ish
There has been some instances of bugs causing mechanical changes in certain skins before (like stopping midway through the air when taking a blast cone), but those have tened to be good
There are some other skins that are pay to lose but in a different fashion. For example, the newest thresh skin, unlike the default skin, has a visualindicator for when his E passive is fully charged for the next auto attack. This indicator is visible to enemy champions, while the default threshskin does not have anything of the sort, making the skin pay to lose.
This is far from the first skin that turns the champions to face the camera during recall. Although I'll concede this is probably the most mechanically impacting. Yasuo juggles his enemies during ult, which means that if he ults Corki or Rumble their frontal AOE will go all over the place. Nightbringer Yasuo's ult makes the enmies face him only, which means that there is an actual mechanical difference with the other skins.
There have been examples of mechanics working differently on skins. For example the Vandal Gragas animation cancel was well known for years and only got fixed earlier this year.
This is such an easy fix. Just set the player facing position during recall as the last position the character was before pressing the button, but play the animation as if Yorick is facing down. Then it won't affect the recall animation, and it will work with maiden. But I doubt they'll do that this year. Hope I'm wrong.
this happens more often than you'd think, count the timer in blood lord vlad autos vs other skins, notice how much faster teemo and vik can move while their autos are finishing, riot lacks proper game designers lately...
Something similar happens to I think nightbringer yasuo. Basically normal yasuo ult spins the enemy around, whereas this skin keeps them facing you constantly. This isnt that big a deal, but there is one scenario in which rumble presses q and shreds the yasuo pressing r, since the rumble and yas are now stuck facing eachother for like a second, whereas normally rumble q would spin around and only hit a little bit.
That maiden interaction with the skin is really unfortunate. I doubt its on their priority to fix. There's a LOT of other champ recall and emote animations that reset the character facing on use, its actually not that uncommon. That's why I doubt they will do anything about it. It's easier for them to just allow the accidental erase of a niche game mechanic than rework code.
This isn’t the first pulsefire ez q used to have a longer animation before his q shot not sure if it ever got fixed im sure there have been others I remember something about all but one Jax skin having animations that would somehow cancel auto attacks as well
@Alherion velkoz's abilities look like fissures in the ground from the planet being ripped open or an explosion. This hides the actual size of his skill shots, making in many cases easier to land. This matters a lot as you usually want to try and proc your passive as often as possible so a free W or Q goes a long way toward that. Instead of doing the same thing on Ark light, they replaced them with runes drawn on the ground that fit inside nice and neat perfect golden rectangles and circles. Go look at the W on all of his skins. The Ark light one pops more, and the particle effects are more persistent.
That's unfortunate. Modern skin recalls orient themselves to face down for the animation. I didn't think it would be a problem until I saw this video haha
I dont understand why they change actual orientation of the character *on* animation, they should be changing only the visual part there, but well, spagettios
But you paid to learn the hard way >.> Maybe they didn't know/noticed, let's see now if anything will be done about it, which is most likely not going to be the case, cause I dunno, ask Rito >.>
Nah you didnt let your maiden(dark star)get close to the wave to even see if it will keep aggro while you back whereas you allowed the maiden(base skin) to already apply aggro before backing. In my opinion was a poor effort to try and explain the point youre making.
Sir pokerick u used to have clips of yorick plays by ur viewers at the end of ur videos, will u bring that back? if so do u have an email so we can send u the clips 😁
I'll take a look at it.
Bro I just hope it doesn't take riot 3 years to fix this
What the HELL is going on here??
it will never be fixed =)
Bro 3 years? Vandal Gragas animation canceling took 12 years to fix.
I'd say 3 years sounds rather optimistic :D
its been about 2 year and raptor camp aggro is still bugged for master yi and Viego. if they cant fix those, i doubt a bug on yorick will ever be fixed.
Vandiril: trust bro they never fix anythig
Unless it's a store or RP bug x)
@Vandiril it is a honor to see you in my comment section
the real first pay to lose skin was hextech kassadin which added an effect showing where he would land when he r'd it was first only on that skin, but then they added it to base kassadin and every skin.
True, but it wasn't as bad as this. The P2L is intensifying
its because some skins force orientate you directly down so the camra can see the animation better
most dont but some like the starguardian xayah and rakan i belive do it
It should only be a visual thing though. Zero need to *actually* rotate the character, just incompetence
@@BrianSantosF no because when theres almost 170 champions in the game, no one on the dev team is gonna have the thought that
a) Yoricks facing direction would have a gameplay difference
b) It would be something that anyone even uses while recalling
so when the VASTLY easier option is to make the character face down, thats what they're gonna do.
(If you don't believe me, the fact 15 years in and this is the first time its happened to my knowledge should be evidence enough)
@@tommo4356 Hmm, who would have thought that changing the champion movement on a specific skin for no reason would cause a gameplay impact, and they actually had to check the champion skills before doing it, completely unpredictable, you're right, Riot's 100% innocent, it is common sense in game design that is wrong, and they actually should actually charge double for that skin for you to buy, sorry for my previous mistake
@@BrianSantosFthey already said there was a reason, the fact that its easier. Yeah they COULDVE caught the mistake before it happened, but the animation team is seperate from the gameplay team, so niche interactions like this would be completely excusable for them to miss. Theres no reason to assume the worst all the time
@BrianSantosF you're saying it like this is the first time they've made a champ face forward in a recall, but it's not, and the skin designers probably didn't know that maiden was coded to stand behind Yorick so they just made him face forward. And as for "who would have thought...", I can almost guarantee that until you saw this video, you've never thought about a champions facing direction in a recall having an effect on gameplay. If you did, good for you, you should get hired by riot so they never miss anything again
This is one more example of Riot doing something to a character without understanding how the character is played.
How would Riot know about every little micro interaction on every champ ? This is such a fucking stupid comment, jfc
best skin on yorick is and ever will be the meowrik black croma
The little things that make high-level players on their mains show why they play that champ so much better.
Wait till pokerick see's the W that's easier to see.
I noticed it day one too, and I like your little back bait to
It's always a little laugh
I was do excited for a yorick skin to...
it's sad when you understand the champions more than the actual company who made it.
Idk how thoroughly they playtest between pbe and live but something seems to always slip through
I feel like its a lot easier for one person to fully understand the intricacies of a champion than have everyone in the company know every little thing about every champion. That's why the pbe exists, to test what the dev team don't have time to test, so if it's not reported on there, it likely wont get fixed before live.
all the most new skins have an automatic "face the camera" for the recall, so that the recall animation is oriented properly.
Other champs don't have this maiden mechanic tho, so this is the first time this feature is a problem
Ngl, I never know you to be using the clickbaity title so I fully believe it clicking into this vid and boy u did not disappoint. That tactic of your I also do it from time to time as necessary.
surprised you said this is the first pay-to-lose skin when dunkmaster darius had a significantly worse bug when playing vs. yorick, when darius would w yorick's w sometimes the animation would bug out and he would self-stun until either the yorick w disappears or darius w ends (4 second self stun btw), it happened with all darius skins for awhile and then after a bug fix only happened with dunkmaster for several years, was fixed around 2019ish
loving the santa hat
Does that just mean that if there was a bright star Yorick, the Maiden would do the opposite?
There has been some instances of bugs causing mechanical changes in certain skins before (like stopping midway through the air when taking a blast cone), but those have tened to be good
There are some other skins that are pay to lose but in a different fashion. For example, the newest thresh skin, unlike the default skin, has a visualindicator for when his E passive is fully charged for the next auto attack. This indicator is visible to enemy champions, while the default threshskin does not have anything of the sort, making the skin pay to lose.
A large part of the pressure Yorick has in lane, is the ability to farm while backing, allowing you to not give up cs vs champs with good wave clear.
This is more a problem of how poorly coded maiden is rather than the skin. Sad they will never fix it.
This is far from the first skin that turns the champions to face the camera during recall. Although I'll concede this is probably the most mechanically impacting.
Yasuo juggles his enemies during ult, which means that if he ults Corki or Rumble their frontal AOE will go all over the place. Nightbringer Yasuo's ult makes the enmies face him only, which means that there is an actual mechanical difference with the other skins.
star guardian neeko has a bug till this day that sometimes when getting out of base the movespeed boots NEVER GOES AWAY, regardless of your form.
There have been examples of mechanics working differently on skins. For example the Vandal Gragas animation cancel was well known for years and only got fixed earlier this year.
This is such an easy fix. Just set the player facing position during recall as the last position the character was before pressing the button, but play the animation as if Yorick is facing down.
Then it won't affect the recall animation, and it will work with maiden.
But I doubt they'll do that this year. Hope I'm wrong.
this happens more often than you'd think, count the timer in blood lord vlad autos vs other skins, notice how much faster teemo and vik can move while their autos are finishing, riot lacks proper game designers lately...
Something similar happens to I think nightbringer yasuo. Basically normal yasuo ult spins the enemy around, whereas this skin keeps them facing you constantly. This isnt that big a deal, but there is one scenario in which rumble presses q and shreds the yasuo pressing r, since the rumble and yas are now stuck facing eachother for like a second, whereas normally rumble q would spin around and only hit a little bit.
I'm pretty sure the damage is the same but if your teammates is nearby congratulations everyone is on fire
Bruh that's actually a major fuckup by riot
That maiden interaction with the skin is really unfortunate. I doubt its on their priority to fix. There's a LOT of other champ recall and emote animations that reset the character facing on use, its actually not that uncommon. That's why I doubt they will do anything about it. It's easier for them to just allow the accidental erase of a niche game mechanic than rework code.
This isn’t the first pulsefire ez q used to have a longer animation before his q shot not sure if it ever got fixed im sure there have been others I remember something about all but one Jax skin having animations that would somehow cancel auto attacks as well
As a velKoz player that only owns Ark Light I feel yer pain brother. Not to this degree, but I know what you mean
whats wrong with that skin??
@Alherion velkoz's abilities look like fissures in the ground from the planet being ripped open or an explosion. This hides the actual size of his skill shots, making in many cases easier to land. This matters a lot as you usually want to try and proc your passive as often as possible so a free W or Q goes a long way toward that.
Instead of doing the same thing on Ark light, they replaced them with runes drawn on the ground that fit inside nice and neat perfect golden rectangles and circles.
Go look at the W on all of his skins. The Ark light one pops more, and the particle effects are more persistent.
Deserved for playing Yorick
We could have had bee keeper yorick but instead we get this :'(
That's unfortunate. Modern skin recalls orient themselves to face down for the animation. I didn't think it would be a problem until I saw this video haha
I dont understand why they change actual orientation of the character *on* animation, they should be changing only the visual part there, but well, spagettios
This is my main skin right now
Does dark star yorick have a unique maiden theme like most of his other skins?
it would be a yorick skin thats pay 2 lose
Meanwhile, one of Yasuos skins does NOT spins the enemy around diring his ult
Legit pay to win.
Actually nightbringer yasuo is the first skin that changes how the champ works mechanically th-cam.com/video/WtVegpZjDiQ/w-d-xo.html
no its not the first time a skin has change mechanically yasuo nightbringer r abillity works different than the base skin
i got this for free the day it came out n felt like it was bad luck so i poofed it into orange essence. glad i did. bad AND ugly
Riot please fix
dont worry guys, Riot has over 200 years of Coding and game development skills between all the Dev's
Riot!
But you paid to learn the hard way >.>
Maybe they didn't know/noticed, let's see now if anything will be done about it, which is most likely not going to be the case, cause I dunno, ask Rito >.>
At least it's worth it :D
Eh, still gonna use it, but I hope riot fixes it
no one is playing him in riot , simple
Unacceptable.
Well i dont like the skin so all fine and thanks for that bug ^^
Nah you didnt let your maiden(dark star)get close to the wave to even see if it will keep aggro while you back whereas you allowed the maiden(base skin) to already apply aggro before backing. In my opinion was a poor effort to try and explain the point youre making.
Sir pokerick u used to have clips of yorick plays by ur viewers at the end of ur videos, will u bring that back? if so do u have an email so we can send u the clips 😁