@@generallabamba2771 it's the exact same. It's software being developed by engineers, and that R&D has a cost which shouldn't be factored in the bike's price if people aren't interested. The problem is KTMs are overpriced to begin with. If Yamaha sold an electronics-free version of the mt09 for $1000 less, with an option to add electronics for the current price, it would be great.
@@noblaw7595 software gets updated with new features and better security and requires constant work. This is just a basic functionality that should be included in the price or included in a fixed fee package. It would be better to compare this to buying a computer with two processors but having to pay a monthly fee to keep the second one running.
Hey, give them some credit - sometimes they also buy out companies with amazing ideas and retire them because their branding is too similar to another company they own (husaberg)
And then killing them off when it turns out that selling the same bike with different coloured plastics through multiple companies isn't a smart business plan...
I owned the 701 Vitpilen, until some rat nicked it. I'd go for this: screw the modes, screw the TC and ABS and screw the duke bars, I'd fit some clip ones and get it back to the ethos the previous incarnation was built with. Looks cool.
The 2020 790 was 105 hp. So this thing isn’t giving “extra” power. Back in 2020 I bought said 790 for £6995 brand new. The Husky is too expensive. I owned the 701 Svartpilen and Vitpilen. Seemed to have more character than this. And they didn’t sell until they were massively reduced in price. It’s way too expensive and then they have the nerve to charge extra for dynamic mode. 🤦♂️
Had Road 6 on my S1000R and they were shit. Some people say they're great, some say they are shit, I don't know what to think, but my experience with those tyres was not pleasant or confidence inspiring.
Great styling exercise. I can't believe that KTM is still trying to sell the 790 after they released the 890R and the journos explained to us how compromised the 790 was and then all the reliability issues came to light.
Bang for buck aside (where I live this bike pushes into MT-09 SP territory fully equipped) the Vitpilen 801 is the most attractive middle weight bike in KTMs lineup.
So, in your video description you say, "let's hope the cam issue has been sorted" followed right up with "now may be the best time to buy a bike from the Pierer Mobility Group." So, what is the thought here? it is a good time to buy and then just wish upon a star? You guys are usually pretty good on reviews, but this felt like I was watching a marketing video.
No, they have hopefully fixed the issue and also tightened down on their customer service, if you want a bike from the group it might be a good time to buy. This is just a first ride remember, it's not a review Timothy. Also, only pretty good, what more do you want for free! 🤣
@@BikeWorldTVshow 🤣 Well done Sir, well done. "pretty good" is actually high praise from me, you should hear how I talk about MCN, and I pay them actual money 🤣
@ Why would you pay them anything, buy a hoodie from us instead, much warmer. Sorry this one wasn’t up to our usual standard for you, as I said, there’s not much you can say on a launch ride.
Okay, I'm officially jealous again! But getting past that, did you ever ride the old Nuda? Now the Pilens are twin cylinder, I wonder how they compare with the much missed Nuda.
I owned and loved a 2018 Vitpilen 701 for a few years and I was very excited for what I hoped was a Vitpilen 901 since I love the KTM 890. The Vitpilen 801 does seem like a pretty solid bike and it looks much better than the Svartpilen IMO but I ended up going with a new Street Triple 765RS and have no regrets. It just feels like a more special bike than these new 801s . That said, if I had a surplus of cash and I couldn't find another 701 I'd probably get a high vis yellow 801!
So much money for just another parallel twin. Yeah, it looks nice, but you can get a XSR900 for the same money that has more of everything, especially reliability.
Good luck selling one when it's out of warranty. Looks great but KTM have taken the piss for too long and now it's come back to bite them in the ass . Shame!
Three things that would massively increase respect for KTM products: 1. Fix your stinking 790/890 engine problems, and by fix, I mean full admittance, full recall, and customer incentives. 2. Stop the "buy modes after purchase" crap. Full stop. 3. Hire style designers who aren't using mushrooms and meth. #3 above doesn't apply to Husqvarna.
Not as nice looking as the 701 vitpilen cafe racer to be honest. Its a ktm duke mixed with a mt07 styling. Another 2 cylinder bike in a market overfloding with em right now.
Caution, I will be a devil's advocate here. Regarding the value for money, one can very well look at it the other way around and say that it's a great value for money compared to 990 duke. Regarding paying for rider modes, KTM ain't the only one who does that. At Yamaha one has to pay for the SP model (of MT-09) to have all rider modes yet no one gives them heat for that. Nonetheless, hating on KTM is what cool kids do these days, so I'll leave you to it.
@@EfferusZangetsu Indeed, but no. There is no hardware reason why that rider mode cannot exist on a basic MT-09, yet Yamaha elected to not to enable it. I bet the software package is identical between the two, and it's artificially disabled on the base model. Same goes for any bike that has ride-by-wire throttle and cruise control as an extra. But you're of course right in that the SP provides more features, I was just focusing on the software.
Nope. It is not pronounced with a -ew sound. I am swedish, and there is no sound in the english language that sounds correct. Close bot not right. The ’-arna’ part is pronounced like you would say ’darn-a’
@@deesknees7009 well it would be really hard to explain since it is a very typical sound for swedes, english speakers will probably never nail it 100% since even english speakers who live in sweden all their lives lose their accent fully. But if we try. ’Hus’ would probably be most like If you tried to say the sound of saying Juice but without the ’J’ sound in the beginning, with an H in front. H(j)uice. Kvarna would be as i said like darn-ah with a K first. And the last -ah part is an upbeat -ah, not like -uh. Huice-kvarn-ah 😂😂
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Lost my interest at "pay extra for modes".
Refuse to pay more for something thats already built into a bike
Do you also refuse to pay for software on your computer because "the chip is already built in it" ?
@@noblaw7595 not comparable
@@noblaw7595 Yes 🏴☠
@@generallabamba2771 it's the exact same. It's software being developed by engineers, and that R&D has a cost which shouldn't be factored in the bike's price if people aren't interested.
The problem is KTMs are overpriced to begin with. If Yamaha sold an electronics-free version of the mt09 for $1000 less, with an option to add electronics for the current price, it would be great.
@@noblaw7595 software gets updated with new features and better security and requires constant work. This is just a basic functionality that should be included in the price or included in a fixed fee package.
It would be better to compare this to buying a computer with two processors but having to pay a monthly fee to keep the second one running.
Dynamic mode for extra cost, what a lot of bollocks!
same with my Tiger 900 Rally Pro, the pro version means paying for offroad pro mode
@donkeizluv seems pretty unfair and a money grab tbh
Not really a fan of KTMs strategy of buying other companies and killing their identity in favour of making a different looking KTM.
Hey, give them some credit - sometimes they also buy out companies with amazing ideas and retire them because their branding is too similar to another company they own (husaberg)
And then killing them off when it turns out that selling the same bike with different coloured plastics through multiple companies isn't a smart business plan...
For this kind of money I'm going with the Triumph Street Triple 765 al day long!!!
I was wondering if anyone else felt the same as me. And, Triumph offer cruise control for the 765, now, which makes it that much better of a bike.
I think this is the best looking in class, but I'd take the Hornet 1000 SP if I was going to spend 10K on a sporty naked. Incredible value!
Not even a comparison for me - I just find this Husky looks incredibly boring, so it is no question the Triumph for me all day long.
I owned the 701 Vitpilen, until some rat nicked it. I'd go for this: screw the modes, screw the TC and ABS and screw the duke bars, I'd fit some clip ones and get it back to the ethos the previous incarnation was built with. Looks cool.
Will the cam shafts be made of cheese as well?
Them cams though
Are those issues still not resolved? I mean this is a brand new bike so ofc they must have worked over those cam issues right?
Its better now. But a lot of bikes have been affected
That issue was sorted in 2021
It was, and altogether there was 0.5% of Dukes affected. But there is always some smart guy that probably newer owned KTM and shits about cams.
On the face of it/first impressions, I prefer the looks of the old 701 bikes.
Love the neo look of it. If I were not bought a Triumph 765RS - this would be my next bike for sure
Thinking about buying the svart 401 version. Kinda nervous about parts quality. What do you think?
The 2020 790 was 105 hp. So this thing isn’t giving “extra” power. Back in 2020 I bought said 790 for £6995 brand new. The Husky is too expensive. I owned the 701 Svartpilen and Vitpilen. Seemed to have more character than this. And they didn’t sell until they were massively reduced in price. It’s way too expensive and then they have the nerve to charge extra for dynamic mode. 🤦♂️
Saw it in person at EICMA and looks amazing 😍
@@urbanstrencan did you see the custom one? Looked very cool
@BikeWorldTVshow yeah I saw it, also the custom Svarpilen 😍😍😍
Love it. Currently ride a Vitpilen 401.
i think it looks class. especially in that yellowish colourway.
Love the look of it, but wouldnt a MT09 SP make more sense for the money??
I like it.... but if its got anything to do with KTM I'm not interested. And it's about 2k too expensive for what it is...
The road 6 is limiting on the road? Trying to drag elbows?!
Had Road 6 on my S1000R and they were shit. Some people say they're great, some say they are shit, I don't know what to think, but my experience with those tyres was not pleasant or confidence inspiring.
Great styling exercise. I can't believe that KTM is still trying to sell the 790 after they released the 890R and the journos explained to us how compromised the 790 was and then all the reliability issues came to light.
Bang for buck aside (where I live this bike pushes into MT-09 SP territory fully equipped) the Vitpilen 801 is the most attractive middle weight bike in KTMs lineup.
Should be an 990.
So, in your video description you say, "let's hope the cam issue has been sorted" followed right up with "now may be the best time to buy a bike from the Pierer Mobility Group." So, what is the thought here? it is a good time to buy and then just wish upon a star? You guys are usually pretty good on reviews, but this felt like I was watching a marketing video.
No, they have hopefully fixed the issue and also tightened down on their customer service, if you want a bike from the group it might be a good time to buy. This is just a first ride remember, it's not a review Timothy. Also, only pretty good, what more do you want for free! 🤣
@@BikeWorldTVshow 🤣 Well done Sir, well done. "pretty good" is actually high praise from me, you should hear how I talk about MCN, and I pay them actual money 🤣
@ Why would you pay them anything, buy a hoodie from us instead, much warmer. Sorry this one wasn’t up to our usual standard for you, as I said, there’s not much you can say on a launch ride.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Sold! 🙂
@@BikeWorldTVshow Hopefully? that wouldn't give me enough confidence to buy one
Okay, I'm officially jealous again! But getting past that, did you ever ride the old Nuda? Now the Pilens are twin cylinder, I wonder how they compare with the much missed Nuda.
I owned and loved a 2018 Vitpilen 701 for a few years and I was very excited for what I hoped was a Vitpilen 901 since I love the KTM 890. The Vitpilen 801 does seem like a pretty solid bike and it looks much better than the Svartpilen IMO but I ended up going with a new Street Triple 765RS and have no regrets. It just feels like a more special bike than these new 801s . That said, if I had a surplus of cash and I couldn't find another 701 I'd probably get a high vis yellow 801!
Oooooh let’s hope they fixed the head oil starvation issue otherwise….. go for extended warranty or get a Honda coz engineering…
So much money for just another parallel twin. Yeah, it looks nice, but you can get a XSR900 for the same money that has more of everything, especially reliability.
Good luck selling one when it's out of warranty. Looks great but KTM have taken the piss for too long and now it's come back to bite them in the ass . Shame!
Does it use KTM's proprietary CheezCam™ technology? I've heard it makes a big difference to the engine after about 15000 miles.
😂😂😂
Does it eat its cams? and can we please just have a modern bike that doesn't have a computer that second guesses everything we do?
Looks no different to me than a Sv650 😅 with a digital display
I take it it's a Chinese built engine if so I'm out !
Svartpilen not Smartpilen 😅
Three things that would massively increase respect for KTM products:
1. Fix your stinking 790/890 engine problems, and by fix, I mean full admittance, full recall, and customer incentives.
2. Stop the "buy modes after purchase" crap. Full stop.
3. Hire style designers who aren't using mushrooms and meth.
#3 above doesn't apply to Husqvarna.
Cool bike. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Very nice bike model😊
the design department should be fired.
KTM GO HOME, AND STAY THERE !!!
So the same as an original Duke 790 but uglier and with a paywall..
Not as nice looking as the 701 vitpilen cafe racer to be honest. Its a ktm duke mixed with a mt07 styling. Another 2 cylinder bike in a market overfloding with em right now.
Well it was only a matter of time before ktm ruined the huskys looks.
Koe kon tuku msterial bayar kene kon msti terksit tertuduhe dusone kabeh sampek resikone kene ngalami asuuu tenan marai emosi otake per keping bagian.picek tenan.
It has been hit by every ugly branch on the way down the tree.
Cheesy cams anyone?
why are you so lame?
@@donkeizluv He's not wrong
This company seems to be in a competition with itself to make the world's ugliest headlights.
Boring
It's not going to win any Beauty contests,
100% UGLY !!!!!
I AM PISSED OF "KTM" !!!
Looks horrible 😢
Caution, I will be a devil's advocate here. Regarding the value for money, one can very well look at it the other way around and say that it's a great value for money compared to 990 duke.
Regarding paying for rider modes, KTM ain't the only one who does that. At Yamaha one has to pay for the SP model (of MT-09) to have all rider modes yet no one gives them heat for that.
Nonetheless, hating on KTM is what cool kids do these days, so I'll leave you to it.
Mt09 is actually a good bike though
That is a terrible comparison. SP provides a lot of other upgrades over the stock model, same as the R versions of the KTM.
@@EfferusZangetsu Indeed, but no. There is no hardware reason why that rider mode cannot exist on a basic MT-09, yet Yamaha elected to not to enable it. I bet the software package is identical between the two, and it's artificially disabled on the base model. Same goes for any bike that has ride-by-wire throttle and cruise control as an extra. But you're of course right in that the SP provides more features, I was just focusing on the software.
Anyone wondering how you pronounce Husqvarna; the U is pronounced the same as the U in que or hue. 😊 Other than that, have at it.
So Hewsq-vah-na?
Nope. It is not pronounced with a -ew sound. I am swedish, and there is no sound in the english language that sounds correct. Close bot not right. The ’-arna’ part is pronounced like you would say ’darn-a’
Och det verkar som du är svensk, du måste tänka fel, man uttalar inte u:et i que ’Ku’.
@@HeyAddieImTojo thank you. Can you like spell it out phonetically please
@@deesknees7009 well it would be really hard to explain since it is a very typical sound for swedes, english speakers will probably never nail it 100% since even english speakers who live in sweden all their lives lose their accent fully.
But if we try. ’Hus’ would probably be most like If you tried to say the sound of saying Juice but without the ’J’ sound in the beginning, with an H in front. H(j)uice. Kvarna would be as i said like darn-ah with a K first. And the last -ah part is an upbeat -ah, not like -uh.
Huice-kvarn-ah 😂😂