The style has grown on me. I feel like Ducati is changing slightly by moving to an emphasis on function over form. We saw it with the Monster changes and some of the iconic design forms of the past. It’s bittersweet but probably necessary to stay on par with the competition.
I would only ride this on Sunday, carry a bottle of detail spray, an ultra soft microfiber, and just talk to it and tell it bedtime stories in my living room. 👍🤤
Hopefully will have mine by beginning of March. At my age, may well be my last superbike before I accept the world of adventure bikes for the rest of my life, but having had an unbroken stream of Ducatis since my very first in 2001 (a 996), gonna give it one last lash before I do! 😉
@@Lar308 Ehm, not to be too much of a smarta$$, but if he was at least 18 in 2001, he must be at least 41 now, because math and stuff. 😜 EDIT: Or i´m just slow and didn´t realize you´re making fun of the other comment...sorry, it´s early in the morning 🙈🙊🙉
@@Schmitzelhaus Well I stand corrected so and thanks for making my point for me. I am 65 and have several powerful sports bikes I ride when the weather permits. Your as old as you feel as they say.
Ducati has given their every bits of styling on their superbikes for the past decade and i think this new Panigale looks stunning, it may look weird without the single sided swing arm, but looking at the MotoGP Desmosidici racebikes its clear why Ducati choose to go with this set up and looks... I just hope this bike translates to winning in next season WSBK... Stunning looking bike... 🔥🔥🔥
If you have an open chequebook, a part time super job with an open track day ticket, plus a true actual decent skill set then yup go for it, but for the average its just beyond in every sense, other than for the flex, its all rather academic, although I am really glad they are still making these coz f@ck electric!!!
Just got a new s1k m package and all that… seen this bike in the dealer cheaper it caught my eye but the bmw I like the look better…. I think I just have to get one to experience the differences…
I can see only reviews V4S. It is unfortunately too expensive for me. Can you estimate how much worse will be standard version? I am comparing with new Honda CBR1000RR-SP - it costs less with Ohlins suspensions. I am intermediate so i suppose that new Ducati electronic can help me more than Ohlins on Honda. What do you think?
People who buy Ducati, they preferred both style and performance, What do they choose now looks or performance. This bike leans towards more of performance upgrade than visual appeal.
Thanks for review, looks epic. My only worry is whilst it might make me quicker on track, I’d be so devastated if I slid off it, I’d probably ride slower than on an older, much cheaper bike. 1st world problems eh?! 😊
I so badly wanted to see average reviews on the bike. But everyone bloody one has nothing but glowing reviews..... anyone want to buy my 2019 v4s its for sale now...
Nice ! I really like the new swingarm- the cut outs look good, the whole appearance is fantastic. I seem to remember Honda had a similar cut out section swingarm on their CBR’s …. Must work !
It looks better. Although I don't think I will ever like the winglets, no matter what shape. All of this is just entertainment because it's the equivalent in the car world to a Koenigsegg or Bugatti or Aston Martin hyper vehicle that only a tiny few can afford (or utilize even 50% of), have any pavement to stretch it on, can store it without theft, and can cover insurance. I think some motorcycle companies have crossed over the line, finally, of "using technology to create problems" instead of solve them. The reason? Bureaucratic regulations have created the "space" within which manufacturers are forced to operate and be profitable: aka....increase technological costs, without significantly changing the product in any fundamental way. I'm still waiting for the flying car or motorcycle that doesn't need a track or roads, runs on hydrogen, nuclear power, and anti-gravity tech. Seems that would solve a heap of problems instead of create them.
Is a race track chads happy place? Chris oftens says how he loves the dodgy twisties with narly shit growing through it and he shines riding those kind of roads but where is chad happiest?
The swingarm itself is lighter in the single sided one, but the beefier axle to hold the wheel, the bearings, and the complicated chain adjuster is what made it slightly heavier.
For the next "stars of TH-cam" moto-review invite, can you convince the manufacturer for you all to compete in a MotoGP adjudicated sprint race? Maybe with a bike that costs 4k...
Remove the stupid little wings and this thing looks freakin gorgeous! Ducati is really making the only modern bikes i really like styling wise, which means i will continue to stay with my ´03 R1 since i´m not about to pay 20k+ for a bike.
So, let me get this straight: you need your own telemetrician in the box in order to be able to extract all the juice on the bike? Or is it to demonstrate how good the bike with respect to the previous one (i.e., the differences are not that notable)? I think that this was a slopy stunt by a marketing boss in Ducati... This bike should be OBVIOUSLY AND UNDENIABLY faster than the previous one EVEN WITHOUT your own telemetrician (and that's why they charge you 30,000 GBPs for it, by the way)!
I'm not sure about the looks, Its just block paint red, where's the gold, where's the flair the old bikes had. If you want unusable power but great looks, just get an MV.
Make a bike so fast, powerful and dangerous you have to put in electronics to stop your punters killing themselves .. pretty and pointless.. I’m sure it’s great round the dales! I quit on sports bike a long time ago, I do (very) occasionally miss track days at Brands I must admit..
as great as these bikes look, handle and deliver it seems that all manufacturers seems to have forgotten that your average road rider isn't a racer or a journalist,...overpriced for for 85% of us and stuffed with rider aids normal users will never need,...a bid sad to be honest. i think back to the days you had your choice of 916's , blades, gixxers and Kawa's for everybody to buy and enjoy,...
I don't think the V4 series has ever been aimed at your average road rider, these are essentially homologated race bikes for the street. Same goes for the M1000RR etc. It's overpriced for you and me sure but the bike was never built for us. It was built for your club racer who wants something that is the peak performance for a track capable bike.
This looks like a chinese replica or a chinese toy of panigale v4. Also, the TFT screen here looks flimsy. 2022 v4 will be and always be in my dreams, no matter who says. You cannot convince me that this looks better than previous gen
Agree in part 👍 I actually like the swing arm. The plastic looks cheap and shiney 🤮 at the end of the day it is a track bike, so , lap times is all that matters 🤷♂️ I don’t particularly like any sports bike, they all necessarily (aeros) look kind of identical, much plastic..meh. Then again i don’t track. I bought a SFV4s in grey. Full bonkers/naked Pani, but, in my opinion better tuned for the road, looks FAR better/better finish/like Batman’s bike 😂 In fairness, of all the sports bikes for the road, the Pani isn’t too bad. It’s roomy, ergos are OK for slightly longer in the saddle(I’d still not want to do a 6 hour day on her unlike my SFV4). If you’re a track monkey then shaving a FULL SECOND of a lap time is insanely good. So horses for courses. I think a lot of people forget though that on the road it makes ZERO difference… I mean when you have north of 170ho on any modern bike you’re talking a second in lap times difference, yes on track that’s great, on the road no one gives a shit if you got to the coffee shop 0.67 seconds faster than your mate 😂 ☕️
If Zack and Ari couldn't beat a k5 gixxer with the last one, I hope this one can at least keep up. It would be really sad to see it get washed by an old gixxer again😂
That test was more a case of not throwing an expensive ducati down the road v pushing hard on an old bike that if u crashed who cares.. only need to look at any race track lap times to see how much faster they are going on modern bikes..
First thought upon release, yuk- horrible-!ugly- it’ll never sell on looks alone. Month later, wow!!! It’s soooo grown on me…. on the tech front- Ducati have just wiped the floor with all.
So tired of hearing the excuse about bringing the MotoGP derived DSSA and calling it a revelation. It's simple logic DSSA performs better than SSSA. People who spend that kind of money for a Ducati is generally looking for more aesthetics than function. It's like people come in to buy a Lambo, but you tell them a Turbo S is a better performing "functional" car. Same with the Monster, when you take away that iconic trellis frame, there is absolutely no reason to it anymore because every brand sells the same similar-looking naked bikes already.
@@Chad76Media sorry Chad it's literally overload of information I just want to ride a bike.. Modern stuff is Insanely fast etc It's me getting older and bikes no longer are bikes that we can work on ourselves. No disrespect.
I own and race a Ducati V4 so appreciate the video but this is an advertisement video and not an independent review. Ducati brings in many people and they all say the same thing…which is what Ducati tells them to say. That being the case, I always take the reviews with a grain of salt.
What else do you expect for a few hours on track, we can only tell you the info Ducati are giving us, do you not understand the concept of a launch first ride? Also, we don’t call it a review, first ride, big difference.
The fact that the entire video is dedicated to "data" and "Electronics" makes it sooo boring. It's clearly a phenomenal machince but realistically .5% of the biking world will ever have the talent toactually reap any benefit at all. HOW does it look like a 916?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?. I'm sure he's just regurgitating the PR with that comment. It looks literally nothing like a 916. AMAZING bike I'm sure but well and truly beyond my level (and most others)
Probably because our younger generation have been brought up in a nannied state. They prefer hipster bikes and keeping it safe and vanilla. Whereas Chad and Neevesey honed their skills on 90s superbikes and still kick ass 👍
9:00 Chad said he was _four seconds_ a lap quicker on this bike over the previous '22 model. The 0.7 seconds was the difference between the '22 model and _its_ predecessor.
I don't like the direction modern bikes are going, too many electronics and rider aids, eventually bikes will be able to ride themselves, which will be boring, I want to control the bike myself, I don't want some computer second guessing everything I do..
It's upto the rest of the Motogp teams to develop their bikes to the performance level of Ducati! At least in WorldSBK BMW & TopRak are about to dethrone the Ducati dominance!
@@C--A toprak is excellent jockey,, the new 23+ m1000rr is good track bike thats why he won,, but Ducati is using the same R bike since 2019 let's see what will happen when they introduce the new R
99% of the people who buy this bike won't have a clue how to use all that functionality or 50% of the power. For the price a Ducati technician should be included in the sale. If this new model is for homologation purposes (which imo it is, because of the DSS) it makes sense. Otherwise utterly pointless. Good looking machine though 👍
You could apply that logic to any litre superbike of the last 15+ years. 99% of riders aren't gonna use all that power where they do the majority of their riding and unless you're a club racer or a pro rider you aren't really gonna notice the difference on the track either.
The style has grown on me. I feel like Ducati is changing slightly by moving to an emphasis on function over form. We saw it with the Monster changes and some of the iconic design forms of the past. It’s bittersweet but probably necessary to stay on par with the competition.
All true BUT…that new monster has not grown on me one bit 😢 It is the most generic looking ducati ever made
@@johnlaw5762 With the exception of it being red and fast all of the Ducatiness is gone. I will stay with my 2015 1299s.
@@P.DuncanMonk single sided swimgarm for life 👌🏼
The new Diavel V4 looks horrible.
I would only ride this on Sunday, carry a bottle of detail spray, an ultra soft microfiber, and just talk to it and tell it bedtime stories in my living room. 👍🤤
It´s the way to go! I would never enter to a trackday with this beauty
The detailing and machining on the swingarm are exquisite.
Hopefully will have mine by beginning of March. At my age, may well be my last superbike before I accept the world of adventure bikes for the rest of my life, but having had an unbroken stream of Ducatis since my very first in 2001 (a 996), gonna give it one last lash before I do! 😉
How old are you then?
@@Ukmongoose3 Probably in his 30's 😖
@@Lar308 Hahahahahahaha, brilliant.
@@Lar308 Ehm, not to be too much of a smarta$$, but if he was at least 18 in 2001, he must be at least 41 now, because math and stuff. 😜
EDIT: Or i´m just slow and didn´t realize you´re making fun of the other comment...sorry, it´s early in the morning 🙈🙊🙉
@@Schmitzelhaus Well I stand corrected so and thanks for making my point for me. I am 65 and have several powerful sports bikes I ride when the weather permits. Your as old as you feel as they say.
4 seconds faster! Function over form. Beautiful
Ducati has given their every bits of styling on their superbikes for the past decade and i think this new Panigale looks stunning, it may look weird without the single sided swing arm, but looking at the MotoGP Desmosidici racebikes its clear why Ducati choose to go with this set up and looks...
I just hope this bike translates to winning in next season WSBK...
Stunning looking bike... 🔥🔥🔥
Such a magnificent looking machine. ❤
Me thanks
Absolutely stunning work🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks
The REAL question, Is it finally quicker then Zack & Ari’s legendary old 2005 Gsxr 1000? 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing😂
They should do a re-test and see how Dave the Gixxer stacks up! 😄
True True
@@HeyAddieImTojo they will do the part two for sure...
Bro, I was literally about to write that, I have found my people ❤
Really nice technical breakdown of the new upgrades. 44Teeth had some lovely footage but were a bit light on the nitty gritty stuff.
I think it's still gorgeous.
thanks
@Chad76Media You're welcome. Still life left in the old hips yet 😉.
man that front end looks like the new Mclaren W1!!
Getting so smart it would probably just bring me back to the pits and say, ger orf, ya ain't good enough. 😆
If you have an open chequebook, a part time super job with an open track day ticket, plus a true actual decent skill set then yup go for it, but for the average its just beyond in every sense, other than for the flex, its all rather academic, although I am really glad they are still making these coz f@ck electric!!!
That's the whole point but .. They're easier to ride for everyone. Not just the fast
ducati said fck the new design and improve youre skills 😂
Just got a new s1k m package and all that… seen this bike in the dealer cheaper it caught my eye but the bmw I like the look better…. I think I just have to get one to experience the differences…
I can see only reviews V4S. It is unfortunately too expensive for me. Can you estimate how much worse will be standard version? I am comparing with new Honda CBR1000RR-SP - it costs less with Ohlins suspensions. I am intermediate so i suppose that new Ducati electronic can help me more than Ohlins on Honda. What do you think?
That’s an interesting question! Will there be more spacecraft wings added?
People who buy Ducati, they preferred both style and performance, What do they choose now looks or performance. This bike leans towards more of performance upgrade than visual appeal.
i think performance doesn't escape the eye.
Chad gets an office chair to sit on, Neeves had to make to with a step on the fire escape
Thanks for review, looks epic. My only worry is whilst it might make me quicker on track, I’d be so devastated if I slid off it, I’d probably ride slower than on an older, much cheaper bike. 1st world problems eh?! 😊
So this, Fireblade SP or GYTR for a track bike?
Ducati always seem to be one development cycle ahead of everyone else.
Gteat holiday. With the engineers rider aids is it fun or a disconnected experience? Like a modern sports car.
I'm not a motogp rider and I use back brake to turn. what are you?
You ride like an old timer racer. Body above the steering handle instead of body besides the tank. 😊
Adam 'This is not a holiday' Child
So Chris Eades from 44T did a 1.44.44, nearly a second faster. Quite surprising seeing as he’s not really a racer/ex-racer.
really?
Marc Marquez approved 😂❤❤
Ducati done it right 👍
A base RSV4 is $19k while a base Panigale V4 is $26k. Where does the extra $7k come from? Is it really 40% better than the RSV4?
*FOUR* seconds???? Holy shit.......
58'000 AUD dollars lol Ducatis having a laugh 🤭
Where did u get 58k from?? I seen them priced at $49,000 for the v4s
I so badly wanted to see average reviews on the bike. But everyone bloody one has nothing but glowing reviews..... anyone want to buy my 2019 v4s its for sale now...
😂 same
Nice ! I really like the new swingarm- the cut outs look good, the whole appearance is fantastic. I seem to remember Honda had a similar cut out section swingarm on their CBR’s …. Must work !
It looks better. Although I don't think I will ever like the winglets, no matter what shape.
All of this is just entertainment because it's the equivalent in the car world to a Koenigsegg or Bugatti or Aston Martin hyper vehicle that only a tiny few can afford (or utilize even 50% of), have any pavement to stretch it on, can store it without theft, and can cover insurance.
I think some motorcycle companies have crossed over the line, finally, of "using technology to create problems" instead of solve them.
The reason? Bureaucratic regulations have created the "space" within which manufacturers are forced to operate and be profitable: aka....increase technological costs, without significantly changing the product in any fundamental way.
I'm still waiting for the flying car or motorcycle that doesn't need a track or roads, runs on hydrogen, nuclear power, and anti-gravity tech. Seems that would solve a heap of problems instead of create them.
Is a race track chads happy place? Chris oftens says how he loves the dodgy twisties with narly shit growing through it and he shines riding those kind of roads but where is chad happiest?
So you guys are attributing all the performance increase to the swing arm being gone when the bike literally trail breaks for you among other things.
Wow
hmm - DVO while a tech marvel, it is something I dont want on my bike - I would like to learn and learn and try to tame the moster,
I thought double sided swingarms were always lighter than single sided
The swingarm itself is lighter in the single sided one, but the beefier axle to hold the wheel, the bearings, and the complicated chain adjuster is what made it slightly heavier.
For the next "stars of TH-cam" moto-review invite, can you convince the manufacturer for you all to compete in a MotoGP adjudicated sprint race? Maybe with a bike that costs 4k...
Could you imagine the carnage! 🤣
THE PANIHONDA!!!
Remove the stupid little wings and this thing looks freakin gorgeous! Ducati is really making the only modern bikes i really like styling wise, which means i will continue to stay with my ´03 R1 since i´m not about to pay 20k+ for a bike.
No potentiometer!! What are Ducati thinking ? 😱
RC46 x 2007 RC212V
So, let me get this straight: you need your own telemetrician in the box in order to be able to extract all the juice on the bike? Or is it to demonstrate how good the bike with respect to the previous one (i.e., the differences are not that notable)? I think that this was a slopy stunt by a marketing boss in Ducati... This bike should be OBVIOUSLY AND UNDENIABLY faster than the previous one EVEN WITHOUT your own telemetrician (and that's why they charge you 30,000 GBPs for it, by the way)!
For 30k I would hope so lol
The front is strange
Function over form and yet the 2022 V4 was the fastest superbike available.
You will not sell one of these to me despite all the glazing
Seriously I have to trade in my 2024 v4s with 600 miles on it for a 2025. WTF
I'm not sure about the looks, Its just block paint red, where's the gold, where's the flair the old bikes had. If you want unusable power but great looks, just get an MV.
what happened to chads hair ?
What hair? 😂
I'm now officially old
@@Chad76Media shows high testosterone levels mate .... just like myself.
I trail brake !,would i trust the terminator to do it for me ,,only the sands of time can tell.
Make a bike so fast, powerful and dangerous you have to put in electronics to stop your punters killing themselves .. pretty and pointless.. I’m sure it’s great round the dales! I quit on sports bike a long time ago, I do (very) occasionally miss track days at Brands I must admit..
916 Look 😂😂😂😂 they wish. Lessons learned from the 999 😢
44 did 44.44
as great as these bikes look, handle and deliver it seems that all manufacturers seems to have forgotten that your average road rider isn't a racer or a journalist,...overpriced for for 85% of us and stuffed with rider aids normal users will never need,...a bid sad to be honest. i think back to the days you had your choice of 916's , blades, gixxers and Kawa's for everybody to buy and enjoy,...
I don't think the V4 series has ever been aimed at your average road rider, these are essentially homologated race bikes for the street. Same goes for the M1000RR etc. It's overpriced for you and me sure but the bike was never built for us. It was built for your club racer who wants something that is the peak performance for a track capable bike.
This looks like a chinese replica or a chinese toy of panigale v4. Also, the TFT screen here looks flimsy. 2022 v4 will be and always be in my dreams, no matter who says. You cannot convince me that this looks better than previous gen
interesting
Agree in part 👍 I actually like the swing arm. The plastic looks cheap and shiney 🤮 at the end of the day it is a track bike, so , lap times is all that matters 🤷♂️
I don’t particularly like any sports bike, they all necessarily (aeros) look kind of identical, much plastic..meh.
Then again i don’t track.
I bought a SFV4s in grey. Full bonkers/naked Pani, but, in my opinion better tuned for the road, looks FAR better/better finish/like Batman’s bike 😂
In fairness, of all the sports bikes for the road, the Pani isn’t too bad. It’s roomy, ergos are OK for slightly longer in the saddle(I’d still not want to do a 6 hour day on her unlike my SFV4).
If you’re a track monkey then shaving a FULL SECOND of a lap time is insanely good. So horses for courses. I think a lot of people forget though that on the road it makes ZERO difference… I mean when you have north of 170ho on any modern bike you’re talking a second in lap times difference, yes on track that’s great, on the road no one gives a shit if you got to the coffee shop 0.67 seconds faster than your mate 😂 ☕️
Let's all nitpick a bike we can't ever afford
If Zack and Ari couldn't beat a k5 gixxer with the last one, I hope this one can at least keep up. It would be really sad to see it get washed by an old gixxer again😂
That test was more a case of not throwing an expensive ducati down the road v pushing hard on an old bike that if u crashed who cares.. only need to look at any race track lap times to see how much faster they are going on modern bikes..
First thought upon release, yuk- horrible-!ugly- it’ll never sell on looks alone.
Month later, wow!!!
It’s soooo grown on me…. on the tech front- Ducati have just wiped the floor with all.
So tired of hearing the excuse about bringing the MotoGP derived DSSA and calling it a revelation. It's simple logic DSSA performs better than SSSA. People who spend that kind of money for a Ducati is generally looking for more aesthetics than function. It's like people come in to buy a Lambo, but you tell them a Turbo S is a better performing "functional" car. Same with the Monster, when you take away that iconic trellis frame, there is absolutely no reason to it anymore because every brand sells the same similar-looking naked bikes already.
Fell asleep during the technical description. So much to go wrong. I will stick with my GSXR 1000k5.
Was I boring? K5 is a good bike
@@Chad76Media nah review was fine. Ducati want to beat that current BMW in WSBK.
@@Chad76Media sorry Chad it's literally overload of information I just want to ride a bike..
Modern stuff is Insanely fast etc
It's me getting older and bikes no longer are bikes that we can work on ourselves.
No disrespect.
@@widowmakerv2 no need to apologise. And stay with the K5 good bike
I own and race a Ducati V4 so appreciate the video but this is an advertisement video and not an independent review. Ducati brings in many people and they all say the same thing…which is what Ducati tells them to say. That being the case, I always take the reviews with a grain of salt.
What else do you expect for a few hours on track, we can only tell you the info Ducati are giving us, do you not understand the concept of a launch first ride? Also, we don’t call it a review, first ride, big difference.
Lost its beauty
Ducati is having a BMW moment. Not pretty
The fact that the entire video is dedicated to "data" and "Electronics" makes it sooo boring. It's clearly a phenomenal machince but realistically .5% of the biking world will ever have the talent toactually reap any benefit at all.
HOW does it look like a 916?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?. I'm sure he's just regurgitating the PR with that comment. It looks literally nothing like a 916.
AMAZING bike I'm sure but well and truly beyond my level (and most others)
Why are all the english riders pensioners?
Harsh - experienced.
Probably because our younger generation have been brought up in a nannied state. They prefer hipster bikes and keeping it safe and vanilla.
Whereas Chad and Neevesey honed their skills on 90s superbikes and still kick ass 👍
@@drewiediggler1 I try and kick ass
😂 amen Bro @@drewiediggler1
It Simply doesnt make any sense..
0.7 secs faster than previous (gamechanger) to 3% of ducati owners. 😅
9:00 Chad said he was _four seconds_ a lap quicker on this bike over the previous '22 model. The 0.7 seconds was the difference between the '22 model and _its_ predecessor.
@@luddite6239 I was quicker, but must remember rubber has improved, and I might be a bit faster. But it's certainly faster
I don't like the direction modern bikes are going, too many electronics and rider aids, eventually bikes will be able to ride themselves, which will be boring, I want to control the bike myself, I don't want some computer second guessing everything I do..
You cannot control over 200hp motorcycles you
@@Decki777 Sure you can
Fifty grand for this ….
Ducati are destroying wsbk and moto GB,, they are on their peek era
It's upto the rest of the Motogp teams to develop their bikes to the performance level of Ducati!
At least in WorldSBK BMW & TopRak are about to dethrone the Ducati dominance!
@@C--A toprak is excellent jockey,, the new 23+ m1000rr is good track bike thats why he won,, but Ducati is using the same R bike since 2019 let's see what will happen when they introduce the new R
£50k, £100k?…
£30,000
@@Chad76Media so not exactly cheap then 😊
@@justsmashing4628 no. But is a Ducati superbike
@@Chad76Media what it is, is a small house on a Greek island 😀
I reckon it looks ugly 🤷♂️
99% of the people who buy this bike won't have a clue how to use all that functionality or 50% of the power. For the price a Ducati technician should be included in the sale. If this new model is for homologation purposes (which imo it is, because of the DSS) it makes sense. Otherwise utterly pointless. Good looking machine though 👍
Homologation for what, exactly? It's 1100cc.
There is people who can afford 30k for this years toy and there is those that say they can’t ride them properly
You could apply that logic to any litre superbike of the last 15+ years. 99% of riders aren't gonna use all that power where they do the majority of their riding and unless you're a club racer or a pro rider you aren't really gonna notice the difference on the track either.