I always love how these underwater drones look like a mix between an isopod and a jellyfish. You could tell that this thing was definitely inspired by the marine life of the ocean. I also wish we got to see the Zepplin with Alan's mind scan.
I wonder if Soma will ever get a sequel. It would be interesting if we could play as simon 2 after the events of this game, and Simon 3 would make a great new villain.
As good as Soma was, I'm not sure if it's a game that needs a sequel. The game's conclusion wraps things up rather quite nicely. There are some loose ends, but some mysteries are probably better left unanswered, and left open for interpretation. Maybe a side story played from someone else's perspective would be cool, but I don't know.
Only if it's centuries into the future depicting what life evolved to from either the WAU or the long term presence of structure gel. It'd need to be unique and still about the theme of consciousness and humanity without bogging down on referencing the first game. That's the only way it'd seem doable to me
@@Jack_Pepsi Maybe. They could probably do a sequel that shows the outcome of the WAU's "experimentation" decades or centuries into the future (assuming Simon lets the WAU live). The devs could revisit some of the old concepts they had for Soma, such as the early idea of the WAU forming a sort of "hive" run by robotic insectoids.
At the time of playing, I thought not much of the zeppelin. Seeing it in this video and observing it closer, it feels much more like an actual living entity, which indeed is a theme throughout SOMA in general, with robots gaining consciousness. I also start feel more subconscious about something while thinking back at the zeppelin portion of the game. In this day and age, autonomous public transport is being testet and very slowly rolled out, and while it is an exciting subject, I also find it to be a little bit scary, because what if something goes wrong? These autonomous zeppelins transfer not only cargo, but also people, and when I think about it, it feels a bit anxious to me knowing that my life is in the hands of a fully automated system like that. Chances for something to go wrong are probably ridiculously low, but you know, many fears are irrational, but it does not stop things from feeling a bit scary sometimes! Hearing 'Alan' speak with that very loud humming in the background gives me shivers! Like a human conscious trapped inside somewhere it doesn't belong, and they know something is very wrong. Now I wonder what exactly happened to the poor fellow! The talk about the WAU and AI reminds me of a video I saw a few days ago, where somebody created an AI that "knew nothing about gaming", and made it play a first generation gameboy Pokémon game. At first, it would button mash, then it would very slowly learn about how to navigate around in the game, and there was a reward system to let the AI know it was doing the right thing. It was interesting to see how a mishap with the pokebox at pokemon centers made it avoid all pokemon centers altogether at all cost etc. A bit unrelated probably, but definitely an interesting watch.
There are people who play devil's advocate for the WAU, suggesting that given enough time and experimentation it would be able to "figure out" how to create life. While this is plausible, it seems incredibly unlikely. For the only reason simon was such a succesful copy was because he was "eased into discovering his state" and because he had a mostly intact body, of which there are very few left. Any pathos member in his situation would most likely figure out their situation immediately and go insane as a consequence. Maybe catherine was an exception too due to her associal and at times apathical behaviour. But the case remains that replicating simon's success would be very hard, if the wau could even acknowledge simon as a success at all. For all we know it is experimenting without being able to review the results. Another thing is that life in it's purely scientific definition requires the lifeform to be able to replicate on it's own accord (and not using other organisms to procreate, like a virus). Thus simon isn't really a lifeform, at least not scientifically speaking, and repopulating earth would be a mostly impossible task. All the needless suffering that it brings with it, just for that sliver of hope isn't worth it imo, and it's better to let humanity die with sarah lindwall
A gloomy outlook, but a very realistic one I find myself sharing My main argument is that one must not make the mistake to humanize the WAU too much the WAU first and foremost is a machine, an advanced one but a machine nonetheless, it does not want anything, it follows a protocol but due to power shortages and structural compromises inflicted by the comet crash, the WAU has adopted the dreadful habit of compensating for it´s lack of resources through simplification simplification on this delicate subject has dreadful consequences and results in disastrous oversights now while it seemingly does have a sense of self preservation as seen in the Omicron case, the most logical thing to conclude would be, that Herbers intervention was interpreted as a threat to the protocol, and this I guess is also why so many hostile fish hybrids surround Alpha, the WAU prioritizes the preservation of it´s definition of life but knows that if it´self ceased to function, the task could not be continued one may assume that some kind of procreation was achieved with Akers Proxies, but on second glance they are merely corpses that still breathe, who´s consciousnesses are stuck in a dreamt up simulation - similar to the ark the mocking birds were the initial attempt and their minds are fragile, even Catherine is prone to break, for as soon as she has an emotional outburst at the end of the game the device she resides on fries and she ceases all activity the robot heads and corpse hybrids like Simon are really just the next best thing but the resources to make those are limited and with the Ypsilon power plant being in a dismal state and the days of continued electricity supply being numbered, further compensation and therefore simplification from the WAU are to be expected
i suppose alan didn't know that you can just drink the water if you are drowning, perhaps zeppelins don't do that. either way, what difference is there between a vessel and the soul that creates it?
interesting Question that would be assuming it is the soul that creates the vessel in the first place, which would require it to have physical influence in the world
@@umukzusgelos4834 both the vessel and the soul connected in the ways beyond and home, they're different but alike, with each others influence other both can be. one day Man will raise another from ground up, only to become no different from the holy books
that would require me to extract them somehow and that´s the issue as with pretty much all the other games people asked me to look at I can do this with Frictionalgames titles because their files are not encrypted so people can make mods easier but so far I have no knowledge on how to decrypt game files or the software required to view them
@@umukzusgelos4834you should look into exploring games with a photo mode that can let you freelook to investigate the models I'm pretty sure I've seen people do that with fromsoft games. Photo mode has been getting more popular as a feature lately
![A closer Look at Site Delta - SOMA [the salvaged Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aiAU8pEef4U/mqdefault.jpg)
08:43 spelling error on my part: I meant to say lot´s of experimentation
03:05 also has a spelling error. 's only gets used when it's somebody's thing. Ist aber allen von uns schonmal passiert.
@@CopperHvHI see. Wird bei meinem Glück wahrscheinlich noch öfter vorkommen
@umukzusgelos4834 as a native English speaker, i hadn't even noticed the typo.
Also our stupid apostrophes are hard. I don't ever use them correctly.
Hear me out: a body that's completely made of structure gel using metal parts only for external protection for mockingbirds.
@@therandomlaniusedward2140Sounds a lot like what the Solipsists would have been, but they ended up unused
I always love how these underwater drones look like a mix between an isopod and a jellyfish. You could tell that this thing was definitely inspired by the marine life of the ocean.
I also wish we got to see the Zepplin with Alan's mind scan.
Its funny how originally it was meant to be a solipsist type of a creature that would wander around the ocean, they reused it perfectly.
2:39 Giant Isopod
Alan might still be out there, and simon was the last person he will ever talk to :(
I wonder if Soma will ever get a sequel. It would be interesting if we could play as simon 2 after the events of this game, and Simon 3 would make a great new villain.
A sequel seems pointless to me. The first game said all it wanted to say.
As good as Soma was, I'm not sure if it's a game that needs a sequel. The game's conclusion wraps things up rather quite nicely. There are some loose ends, but some mysteries are probably better left unanswered, and left open for interpretation. Maybe a side story played from someone else's perspective would be cool, but I don't know.
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 another game set in the same world would work too, that's essentially what the amnesia games are.
Only if it's centuries into the future depicting what life evolved to from either the WAU or the long term presence of structure gel. It'd need to be unique and still about the theme of consciousness and humanity without bogging down on referencing the first game. That's the only way it'd seem doable to me
@@Jack_Pepsi Maybe. They could probably do a sequel that shows the outcome of the WAU's "experimentation" decades or centuries into the future (assuming Simon lets the WAU live).
The devs could revisit some of the old concepts they had for Soma, such as the early idea of the WAU forming a sort of "hive" run by robotic insectoids.
If there was a hall of fame for game atmosphere, Soma should be in it.
most definitively
@@umukzusgelos4834 Without a doubt, an amazing story that deals with the topic of existential crisis and has a great environmental story-telling.
This channel is an absolute gold mine
Thank you
@@umukzusgelos4834 no need to thank me yo we should thank you for delivering these interesting videos
god i need to play this game again. thanks for the work you do, it's so cool seeing this stuff :3
Same man, wish they made a sequel set in another part of the world or something, would be cool
Simon asked the wrong question and made Alan go insane.
At the time of playing, I thought not much of the zeppelin. Seeing it in this video and observing it closer, it feels much more like an actual living entity, which indeed is a theme throughout SOMA in general, with robots gaining consciousness.
I also start feel more subconscious about something while thinking back at the zeppelin portion of the game. In this day and age, autonomous public transport is being testet and very slowly rolled out, and while it is an exciting subject, I also find it to be a little bit scary, because what if something goes wrong? These autonomous zeppelins transfer not only cargo, but also people, and when I think about it, it feels a bit anxious to me knowing that my life is in the hands of a fully automated system like that. Chances for something to go wrong are probably ridiculously low, but you know, many fears are irrational, but it does not stop things from feeling a bit scary sometimes!
Hearing 'Alan' speak with that very loud humming in the background gives me shivers! Like a human conscious trapped inside somewhere it doesn't belong, and they know something is very wrong. Now I wonder what exactly happened to the poor fellow!
The talk about the WAU and AI reminds me of a video I saw a few days ago, where somebody created an AI that "knew nothing about gaming", and made it play a first generation gameboy Pokémon game. At first, it would button mash, then it would very slowly learn about how to navigate around in the game, and there was a reward system to let the AI know it was doing the right thing. It was interesting to see how a mishap with the pokebox at pokemon centers made it avoid all pokemon centers altogether at all cost etc. A bit unrelated probably, but definitely an interesting watch.
Ah yes, AI
that´s gonna be a tumultuous topic in the foreseeable future I imagine
There are people who play devil's advocate for the WAU, suggesting that given enough time and experimentation it would be able to "figure out" how to create life. While this is plausible, it seems incredibly unlikely. For the only reason simon was such a succesful copy was because he was "eased into discovering his state" and because he had a mostly intact body, of which there are very few left. Any pathos member in his situation would most likely figure out their situation immediately and go insane as a consequence. Maybe catherine was an exception too due to her associal and at times apathical behaviour. But the case remains that replicating simon's success would be very hard, if the wau could even acknowledge simon as a success at all. For all we know it is experimenting without being able to review the results. Another thing is that life in it's purely scientific definition requires the lifeform to be able to replicate on it's own accord (and not using other organisms to procreate, like a virus). Thus simon isn't really a lifeform, at least not scientifically speaking, and repopulating earth would be a mostly impossible task. All the needless suffering that it brings with it, just for that sliver of hope isn't worth it imo, and it's better to let humanity die with sarah lindwall
A gloomy outlook, but a very realistic one I find myself sharing
My main argument is that one must not make the mistake to humanize the WAU too much
the WAU first and foremost is a machine, an advanced one but a machine nonetheless, it does not want anything, it follows a protocol but due to power shortages and structural compromises inflicted by the comet crash, the WAU has adopted the dreadful habit of compensating for it´s lack of resources through simplification
simplification on this delicate subject has dreadful consequences and results in disastrous oversights
now while it seemingly does have a sense of self preservation as seen in the Omicron case, the most logical thing to conclude would be, that Herbers intervention was interpreted as a threat to the protocol, and this I guess is also why so many hostile fish hybrids surround Alpha, the WAU prioritizes the preservation of it´s definition of life but knows that if it´self ceased to function, the task could not be continued
one may assume that some kind of procreation was achieved with Akers Proxies, but on second glance they are merely corpses that still breathe, who´s consciousnesses are stuck in a dreamt up simulation - similar to the ark
the mocking birds were the initial attempt and their minds are fragile, even Catherine is prone to break, for as soon as she has an emotional outburst at the end of the game the device she resides on fries and she ceases all activity
the robot heads and corpse hybrids like Simon are really just the next best thing but the resources to make those are limited and with the Ypsilon power plant being in a dismal state and the days of continued electricity supply being numbered, further compensation and therefore simplification from the WAU are to be expected
I always thought the zeppelin was going to bring an enemy to Delta, I didn’t trust it lol
Replayed the game again last month (because October). This game is a masterpiece and still love it till this day ;D
I wish that Stross guy actually tried to tell their BIOLOGICAL ai how humans percieve world
i suppose alan didn't know that you can just drink the water if you are drowning, perhaps zeppelins don't do that. either way, what difference is there between a vessel and the soul that creates it?
interesting Question
that would be assuming it is the soul that creates the vessel in the first place, which would require it to have physical influence in the world
@@umukzusgelos4834 both the vessel and the soul connected in the ways beyond and home, they're different but alike, with each others influence other both can be. one day Man will raise another from ground up, only to become no different from the holy books
Never saw the Zeppelin Wreck, where can you find it? Or is it a unused model?
chances are that it may reside in the surroundings of Theta if anywhere, though I believe it went unused
Peak
I know you said that your mainly Focused on enemies from frictionalgames but I hope you can do the enemies from the outlast series
that would require me to extract them somehow and that´s the issue as with pretty much all the other games people asked me to look at
I can do this with Frictionalgames titles because their files are not encrypted so people can make mods easier
but so far I have no knowledge on how to decrypt game files or the software required to view them
@@umukzusgelos4834you should look into exploring games with a photo mode that can let you freelook to investigate the models I'm pretty sure I've seen people do that with fromsoft games. Photo mode has been getting more popular as a feature lately
Please, MS CURIE next ?
At some point
Say Zeppelin but without the Zelin.
hehe
-_-