great to see as my foxx installation going in on monday, i was worried about putting battery and inverter in the loft can't wait to start saving all beit being close to shortest day lol
Good video and I have a Fox ESS hybrid system myself with 3 batteries, two inverters and 13 PV panels. Most people are not obsessed with being “green and sustainable” though. We mostly care about the fact energy prices are through the roof. So we buy solar to beat the system. If you really want sales then push the energy independence aspect as well as the fact a good 5 year unsecured loan at around 5% apr to pay monthly, if carefully planned could cost the same as your current lecky bill cancelling it out in the short term and it’s free electricity for the lifetime of the gear after that. That’s what homeowners care about. Not carbon neutrality.
Another great install. Are you considering GivEnergy batteries? GivEnergy batteries are a but more presentable, provide a dedicated emergency circuit for when the mains fails, and mount flush to the wall. They also use LiFePO4 cell chemistry for greater cycle life and improved safety.
Thank you, yes we will consider other battery options for sure and GivEnergy products are ones we have a close eye on, albeit I think they may be a victim of their own success in recent months with many concerns and complaints over their recent customer service and support but that said, it isn’t something we have experienced personally and with a sudden huge uptake in Solar PV products, hopefully this is just a short term issue.
The fox battery systems and probably almost all home battery systems use LFP (lithium iron phosphate) due to 6000 cycle life and incredibly hard to make catch fire. Exception I read is early Tesla home batteries!
Very helpful video. Looking install Fox inverter and batteries. Do you know the distance you can run for the CT clamp? Can it be extended, my system isn't close to the master consumer unit.
I have this exact installation and am generally pleased with it (12 months installed). Have found that the batteries are having issues with the current cold weather. Any ideas how to mitigate this?
@@intheyear2510 Below 0c. It's not that they don't charge, it's that the cold affects the charging rate and it takes far longer for them to charge up. They are back to normal now after the cold snap.
I have had my Fox H1 inverter and solar panels installed for just over year now. Great no problems, very satisfied. However last week I had to have a new modem installed as they have gone full fibre broadband in my area. Unfortunately I have now lost my internet connection to my inverter, that was set up with my old modem. Can anyone tell me how to change the settings for my new modem?
Don’t like the use of the loft for battery and inverter installation. Gets very hot up there which the equipment doesn’t like and there is the obvious fire risk. My installer wanted to put the inverter in the loft but as the heat will shorten its life and you cannot easily access the inverter I insisted it went in the garage. No issues so far after 5 years.
@@chrisroyle4813 He says fireboard "for extra protection against any situations that may or may not arise" but the board is doing absolutely nothing & the nearest combustable objects to the system appears to be the timber rafters so if you're going to the trouble of installing protection anywhere I'd cover those. Theres no way I'd be attaching heavy gear to what looks like aprox 9mm to 12mm board so you'll have to drill through into the blocks anyway, obviously the boards makes this a bit more of a pain in regards to measuring up to make sure you don't hit the mortar or to close to the edge of a block. Since watching this I have heard a few sparks say the powers that be have demanded a fireboard behind some of their instals even though they had already done it on brick or concrete. I suspect someone came up with the quite sensible rule of using fireboards to protect walls that would benefit from it, but now its a case of every single instal requires one even if theres no point because it's says so in the book.
Loft is not the best place to put the inverter. Its not efficient and could diminish the lifespan of the device. The inverter regularly reduces its output power due to high temperature. The loft is a poor place to install the inverter as they get very hot and in particular will get hottest on the day you want your inverter to work its hardest. This will reduce the output from the inverter and age its components quicker.
Our 2kWp inverter is mounted in the loft and I've recently added Home Assistant which exposed the inverter temperatures. A couple of weeks ago the inverter recorded that it went above 65c. I believe it would have been progressively de-rating from about 45c with a shut down at 65c. For now, I've added a temperature controlled socket which powers a fan to circulate air over the cooling fins, which has helped flatten temperatures between 40c & 45c. In an ideal world the inverter would be mounted on a north facing shaded wall. This is a 2011 FIT system, so we don't want to lose generation because of de-rating. In summary, I concur.
Don't install electronics in a loft. Inverters have fins not fans. They like cool air circulation aroynd them. It's going to die early if it's running hot. And will run hot on the hottest sunniest days! Garage or utility room every time!
not only that but to access system controls you have to go up and down a loft ladder and get accross your inner roof space, not ideal especially if older customer.
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great to see as my foxx installation going in on monday, i was worried about putting battery and inverter in the loft
can't wait to start saving all beit being close to shortest day lol
Good video and I have a Fox ESS hybrid system myself with 3 batteries, two inverters and 13 PV panels.
Most people are not obsessed with being “green and sustainable” though. We mostly care about the fact energy prices are through the roof. So we buy solar to beat the system.
If you really want sales then push the energy independence aspect as well as the fact a good 5 year unsecured loan at around 5% apr to pay monthly, if carefully planned could cost the same as your current lecky bill cancelling it out in the short term and it’s free electricity for the lifetime of the gear after that.
That’s what homeowners care about. Not carbon neutrality.
Hi I hope you don't mind me asking, is there a decent mobile app to control things like import/export with these batteries?
Another great install. Are you considering GivEnergy batteries? GivEnergy batteries are a but more presentable, provide a dedicated emergency circuit for when the mains fails, and mount flush to the wall. They also use LiFePO4 cell chemistry for greater cycle life and improved safety.
Thank you, yes we will consider other battery options for sure and GivEnergy products are ones we have a close eye on, albeit I think they may be a victim of their own success in recent months with many concerns and complaints over their recent customer service and support but that said, it isn’t something we have experienced personally and with a sudden huge uptake in Solar PV products, hopefully this is just a short term issue.
The fox battery systems and probably almost all home battery systems use LFP (lithium iron phosphate) due to 6000 cycle life and incredibly hard to make catch fire. Exception I read is early Tesla home batteries!
Very helpful video. Looking install Fox inverter and batteries. Do you know the distance you can run for the CT clamp? Can it be extended, my system isn't close to the master consumer unit.
Hi Adrian, thank you for the comment. As far as I am aware you shouldn’t run data cable further than 100 metres
I have this exact installation and am generally pleased with it (12 months installed). Have found that the batteries are having issues with the current cold weather. Any ideas how to mitigate this?
What temp do they stop charging at ?
@@intheyear2510 Below 0c. It's not that they don't charge, it's that the cold affects the charging rate and it takes far longer for them to charge up.
They are back to normal now after the cold snap.
@@andreashessler838 I see , you could look at low voltage heat Matt's placed between each battery
I have had my Fox H1 inverter and solar panels installed for just over year now. Great no problems, very satisfied. However last week I had to have a new modem installed as they have gone full fibre broadband in my area. Unfortunately I have now lost my internet connection to my inverter, that was set up with my old modem. Can anyone tell me how to change the settings for my new modem?
Best to read the inverter's online manual on how to reset the internet connection.
Don’t like the use of the loft for battery and inverter installation. Gets very hot up there which the equipment doesn’t like and there is the obvious fire risk. My installer wanted to put the inverter in the loft but as the heat will shorten its life and you cannot easily access the inverter I insisted it went in the garage. No issues so far after 5 years.
I've never understood why you need a fire board on top of concrete blocks? In all my years of being a fireman I never once saw any on fire 😅
Is it not simply for the convenience of having a flat surface to mount on / attach labels to - which is not combustible ?
@@chrisroyle4813 He says fireboard "for extra protection against any situations that may or may not arise" but the board is doing absolutely nothing & the nearest combustable objects to the system appears to be the timber rafters so if you're going to the trouble of installing protection anywhere I'd cover those.
Theres no way I'd be attaching heavy gear to what looks like aprox 9mm to 12mm board so you'll have to drill through into the blocks anyway, obviously the boards makes this a bit more of a pain in regards to measuring up to make sure you don't hit the mortar or to close to the edge of a block.
Since watching this I have heard a few sparks say the powers that be have demanded a fireboard behind some of their instals even though they had already done it on brick or concrete. I suspect someone came up with the quite sensible rule of using fireboards to protect walls that would benefit from it, but now its a case of every single instal requires one even if theres no point because it's says so in the book.
Loft is not the best place to put the inverter. Its not efficient and could diminish the lifespan of the device.
The inverter regularly reduces its output power due to high temperature. The loft is a poor place to install the inverter as they get very hot and in particular will get hottest on the day you want your inverter to work its hardest. This will reduce the output from the inverter and age its components quicker.
Our 2kWp inverter is mounted in the loft and I've recently added Home Assistant which exposed the inverter temperatures. A couple of weeks ago the inverter recorded that it went above 65c. I believe it would have been progressively de-rating from about 45c with a shut down at 65c. For now, I've added a temperature controlled socket which powers a fan to circulate air over the cooling fins, which has helped flatten temperatures between 40c & 45c. In an ideal world the inverter would be mounted on a north facing shaded wall. This is a 2011 FIT system, so we don't want to lose generation because of de-rating.
In summary, I concur.
@@chrisroyle4813 Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Fully agree. Loft installation is not good idea.
Don't install electronics in a loft. Inverters have fins not fans. They like cool air circulation aroynd them. It's going to die early if it's running hot. And will run hot on the hottest sunniest days! Garage or utility room every time!
not only that but to access system controls you have to go up and down a loft ladder and get accross your inner roof space, not ideal especially if older customer.