@@noahmoon2631 If we had more journalists like John Stossel .... we wouldn't need journalists. There would be more truth in the world, and nothing to debate about these subjects.
I dont think other forms of labor are the same thing as selling access to your genitals and inside parts. Would you go to a restaurant and expect to eat your meal out of your server's mouth? Medical professions work the other way: you pay to have your insides taken care of; dentists, surgeons, proctologists, gynecologists, etc.
He did deliberately appeal to the lowest common denominator to make the case against it look more inane than it is, though - and I don't support making it illegal. It's a tad over propagandizing when he's the one playing devil's advocate badly; be better if he got someone that supports the other side that doesn't appeal to religious hang ups like the woman in the video (since there is a practical case to be made separate of religion).
@@euphoricatheist6694 Without religion (mainly Christianity and Catholicism) societies collapse into degeneracy. Look at California as an example (or even Portland, Oregon). Human feces are all over the streets, needles are all over the streets, insane amount of homeless, lots of gays, crime, prostitution, etc. Then you see that areas that are mostly Christian in first-world countries are the safest and nicest.
@@anon8206 While I agree that society collapses without religiosity, the case can be made that this is the Christians' fault in the first place. It was Christian societies that pushed the LGBTQRSJWHIV movement and enabled all that degeneracy with its overemphasis on tolerance and non-judgement. It's ironic that the alphabet people blame Christianity for people being repulsed by them, claiming if it weren't for Christianity they'd have had all they demanded in no time - yet it's lost on such people that while Christian societies were promoting gay marriage, gay adoption and all that crap, it was many years before non-Christian societies (most of East Asia) permitted such insanity. Most non-religious societies (essentially every Communist society, for instance) outright rejected the institutionalization of gay marriage, for which there was no precedent in thousands of years of human history and was a radical idea to begin with. It was only because of Christians' insane overemphasis on tolerance and non-judgement and all that kumbaya love is love crap that they got this far, and now they are biting the hand that feeds them.
@@nebula0024 I have the feeling that feminist fear when Prostitution is legal then men will leave them because they wouldnt endure their bullshit to have some sex any longer.
You cant voluntary give up on your freedom and be a slave! How could the Law differentiate between prostitutes who are forced into prostitution and those who volunteer to it? Benjamin was a rich slave owner , he was protecting his rights form Democracy , wake up and read some history
Basically the same with some "acting" and recording of the action. Performing disgusting "sexual" acts is considered "art". But creating art on a pastry for a gay couple isn't considered art and allows for persecution of the business in question. The irony of our government amazes me, sex in front of the camera with a little "acting" is just degeneracy along with legalized human trafficking which is also rampid in the porn industry. Porn does nothing but turn people into disgusting horn hogs.
@@juanpaVlz ....and she says it with that accusing index finger stuck out like an erection. She is driven by her need to BLAME PLACE and make other women less that herself, NOT by any desire to HELP any women even those she calls " DARLING" . ,Classic woman hater
It's becoming obvious in the last couple of months. The whole talk about helping people and "my body my choice" and all that is just that: talk. These people don't care about equality, never have, and never will. They only care about equality when it's the other side in power. The moment they get their hands on the wheel, they suddenly want to be able to micromanage everything you do.
@Sapphire Spire some licenses are just bs, but also cant you just make amateur videos and post on some website just for the fun of it? I think maybe a license is needed if youre planning on and you are getting a profit/income out of it.
This is a surprise: Something me and conservatives agree with. Prostitution should be a personal choice. No government interjections. These anti-prostitution women are most indeed saying that a women shouldn't be allowed to have paid, consensual, fuck sessions with strangers is totally un-American!
She says "It's not about you", then says that she wants to compromise their freedom and they should be ashamed of themselves. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth. What she really wants is to control them.
Pornography isn't legal because people pay taxes with the money they make, it's legal because our ass backwards government has decided that as long as you're "acting" and THEN getting paid is perfectly legal, the irony of what's up for consideration and interpretation by our government.
@@Marcobroomar Most sex and relationships are primarily transactional. Both men and women get sex out of it, but unless the man is top 10% by looks and she's only top 50%, or something like that, the women expect something more than just the sex. Typically, this is the man paying for stuff, and in the long run with relationships and especially marriage, it usually becomes more and more stuff for less and less sex to the point where the man is engaging in hundreds of hours of work, perhaps even thousands, that he wouldn't otherwise need to per hour of sex. Contrast to prostitution where the your work hours to her hours exchange rate is perhaps 2/1 or 5/1 depending on your job. And you can change prostitute without a huge severance package if she starts jacking up the price.
This is what journalism looks like. I come away with the point of view from both sides. It allows my thoughts to be dynamic while I try to make a decision. Thank you John Stossel
News is giving facts, logic and straight up raw info. Opinion will be people themselves to speak up. News nowadays is forcing opinion to our throat and brain. I know people aren't perfect, but I find John most of the time reliable.
@ oh yeah, if he was trying to present the other side the former prosecutor was probably not the best representative to argue for banning prostitution.
@@joekeny there are no good arguments against legalizing prostitution, because bodily autonomy is a right. Putting someone in jail for engaging in consensual sex is completely absurd. The prosecutor was certainly more logical than many other people I think John could have brought on, the problem is that the arguments against prostitution are inherently illogical.
@@tissuepaper9962 Bodily autonomy isn't a right, and you don't have a right if nobody pledges to effectively fight for it. Laws restrict "bodily autonomy" regularly. Whenever your country decides to fight a war and they're running low on soldiers, they can re-instate the draft lottery and you'll be out to the desert or jungle if you "win".
@@camilocuesta Eating rats and dogs is also legal in some countries, as is stoning, beheading... just saying... Syphilis and gonorrhea were a HUGE part of prostitution being outlawed in the U.S. years ago, new medicines have and can eliminate that problem. Street walkers don't go through the regiment of checks, etc. those in a brothel do. I believe it should be made legal IF done with checks and balances in place.
@gunthreadadapters.com They're outlawing freedom of choice to keep girls from 'unsafe' prostitution. Prostitution can be harmful no doubt, but its the individuals responsibility to make their own decisions. Its the same for drugs, they outlaw drugs so we don't take them claiming they are harmful. I mean drugs can be very destructive, however, some people can use them responsibly so what authority does the government have to tell someone what they can and can't do with their own body in their own home. Its not the governments job to be the moral police.
well tbh that claim is kinda stupid because there is a big difference between a criminal that deserves to be in jail and a slave that didnt do anything. What would you do leave killers be? Its not like everyone in the court must love slavery
@@YourSavant you forgot to add "for free", as you have to work when incarcerated with no monetary rewards. Well besides a shitty meal (that you have no choice on) and a 2" piece of foam on a steel bunk.
Oskar 464 making laws to put people who have committed no true crime is slavery. If you have commit a crime and what you did doesn’t hurt anybody, it wasn’t a law made to protect and you aren’t some criminal, you are a victim of a system set up to enslave you and put you in captivity.
*cough* stds *cough* morally wrong. Empty sex is just not right by most people. What can you do, I don’t have a problem with the law since both people of the transactions are a little scummy.
Agreed. I feel the same way about weed. I don't like weed but don't tell me that it's okay to have legal alcohol but not weed. Alcohol abuse slowly kills the user, destroys families and sometimes kills innocent bystanders in drunk driving accidents but apparently marijuana is worse. Yeah, not buying it.
@@travistarp7466 woah woah, not all drugs. Some drugs are way too dangerous and addictive but yeah weed should be legal. I honestly don't get why it isn't legal. Look weed has been proven a lot of times to be way less dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes and it isn't that harmful to people with fully developed brains. So, there's no moral reason to make it illegal and if it is then it is a win-win scenario. People get to buy weed at their local convenient store while the government can regulate it and get money from weed taxes. See, it's best for everyone if it's legal. Same goes for prostitution. Government gets money and people get to have sex. Heck, since it is legal it'd actually be better because no it's regulated. Prostitutes would actually have better working rights. STD's could be more easily prevented by making sure that the prostitutes get tested every few months and make it illegal to not have sex without a condom. It could even make somr people less likely to drug rape someone.
Women already wield overwhelming social influence, to also grant them majority political influence via the vote was a ruinous mistake. The authoritarian Nanny State has been the result.
Yea, It's not like it's the only thing humans do that's potentially harmful to us, like alcohol and smoking, which are legal... This bitch gonna take people's freedoms to keep them safe from the scary liver and lung cancer? People have the right to make their own choices.
Vulpinetide Cute Times Not really, rights are fabricated under a moral code. You can’t make the choice to hang yourself because it would be wrong. You actually don’t have the right to make your own choices. Legally you have the right to make the Right choices. This interviewer brings up the example of prostitution not being “forced” and that it’s “consensual” but we can apply that to someone killing themselves, it still doesn’t rid it of the immorality of the act. The girls say that they are happy and imply that they are content with the choices they’ve made.... okay.... so was Jeffrey Dahmer, actually now that I think about it the people who usually do bad things are those who are looking for “happiness”... self serving, unenlightened, apathetic happiness... Just because you CAN do something doesn’t imply you OUGHT to do something.... And because you can make choices that doesn’t give you the right to make those choices simply because you can make them.
@@denniswilkerson5536 and you cant just restrict freedom because you can restrict freedom. just because you can decide what others should do doesnt imply you ought to do it. they dont hurt anybody else, and i doubt they hurt themselves. lol!
Yeah, dude! That lady is so out of touch that she can't even feel her brain think anymore. (Anyways, enough of the jokes) It scares me, how she acts like a thought police. I guess she is one of Kronos devouring of freedom, thought, and living your life how you want it to be. Remember thought police hates philosopher's, to them it's like a nail scratching on a chalkboard.
Honestly when she said that it scared the crap out of me. Just like dems to suck away our freedoms because they dont trust us. I'm not for prostitution, but I also believe these women and anyone else should have the freedom to do what they wish.
The argument is being made by liberals: we should quarantine ourselves to save lives from the coronavirus. This argument can go on forever and it has. Ex: patriot act, national defense authorization act, TSA, CIA, FBI, FDA... All of these programs are unconstitutional and have a major cost with unintended consequences.
@@nerdienew911 it isn't "our" with abortion and that would include a minor. Prostitution is between two adults having sex. Except money is being exchanged for services rendered. This law is stupid on so many levels.
@@fenrix155 I think suicide should be legal or even doctor assisted. I personally don't wish to die a long painful agonizing vegetable death so doctors can use me as a guinea pig or to pad their pockets in the name of morality. If you would keep prostitution illegal based on morals then why keep premarital sex legal? Abortion? Wealth? Obesity? Smoking? The fact is, morals are a personal opinion. As a law, who gets to decide what is moral? I'm not asking for chaos, but a law forbidding legal adults to have sex for money seems ludicrous. As an adult, you don't need to partake in it just because its legal. Many people don't drink alcohol, but its legal.
She doesn't understand that the reason it is dangerous for women is because it's illegal they can't call the police if they're beaten or abused. If it is legal they can call the police.
Kind of. If you were involved in some prostition scenario and you had to call the police for whatever reason, you won't be arrested for being a prostitute or hiring a prostitute. Kinda like if you went to a police officer and said I tried to buy drugs and he stole my money, they can't arrest you for saying you bought drugs because you weren't caught in the act. Some states might be different but that is the just of it.
@M M So if it was illegal it wouldn't happen? It would happen even more. And if there was no welfare this wouldn't happen? It would happen still. I am against walfare,but don't mess with my freedom or theirs. Fuck off.
“I’ll compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women” I’ll throw you in jail to save you from making what I believe is a mistake. Stossel had this woman on the ropes the entire time. Asking very simple questions, and this lady’s responses beats around the bush. I can’t believe this lady was a prosecutor. Her debating skills are extremely poor.
@P. Spit Yes, she wants it to remain illegal so that she can maintain her job prosecuting prostitutes so that she can feel better about herself. If it were legalized, and the associated crimes also went down (which is evidenced by countries where it is legal) she might actually have to work harder to justify her position.
"“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C.S. Lewis
Alden Buyer I disagree with that because robber barons usually prioritize their own self interest meaning that they can identify where they are hurting other's interests. A moral authoritarian will always believe that they are acting for the common good. An example is the crusades or the holocaust or even terrorism in general.
Jazz Jackrabbit and that after she sponaniously wanted to embrace them with the words I can save you. She should help those that want to change their lives. For instance the ones whose passports have been taken.
@M M I am willing to bet that she is also one of those women who stands up for abortion while screaming that it is a woman's right to choose what she does with her body. Now, she goes on this show and tells a woman that she can choose what she does with her body.
Love the ending where Stossel brought in the workers so that prosecutor can have her beliefs challenged. When someone says they are willing to "take away your freedom for the safety of others" their authoritarianism comes out in full force. Such logic has historically been used by kings and other tyrants to justify their heinous acts.
Nailed it. Gay marriage is here, drug legalization is here, prostitution is next. Law enforcement should never be used to protect people from themselves - that's insane and immoral.
Yup, it sure has. It's all for "your own good". Social security, medicare, prostitution, drugs, cigarettes, etc. The government (and some supporting morons) saying "We know what's best for you."
To use current vernacular, the former prosecutor has bought into the patriarchy that prohibited prostitution in the first place with two contradictory excuses, to protect women from exploitation by men and to protect men’s virtue from lascivious women.
Nick Tanzillo yeah it basically just seems like if they find they man attractive then they have sex with them and get paid I wouldn’t be surprised if most of these women would’ve have sex with their clients even if they didn’t get paid
@@subscribetomefornoreason7294 No. They like the money more than the sex. Too bad "real women" can't admit to that, but clarity is not in their best interest.
Nick Tanzillo unless I really want that new pair of shoes...trading dignity for cash/stuff. There are so many movies about breaking free of a corporate stranglehold, but prostitution is a self imposed stranglehold according to the women who got out that I have counseled.
Nick Tanzillo thing is...most whores could not care less who fucks them...as long as the jon gives them enough to score that next 8ball or gram of meth or whatever. Making it legal won't even put a dent in the amount of street whores simply supporting their habbit & spreading disease.
@@Idalych I think you missed my point... Slavery is about restricting a person's freedom, and the lady that was against prostitution said she was willing to restrict those girls freedoms... I'm all about freedom baby
"...who are prostituted..." is an important part of that sentence. Yes, if it's done TO them, we can consider that harmful. But change that sentence to, "The majority of women WHO CHOSE TO PROSTITUTE IN A LEGAL ENVIRONMENT...," and tell me what harm they suffer.
@@30803080308030803081 Sometimes it does, sure. They can be good or bad. And they can be present whether the sex is prostitution or not. So...it's a logical falsehood to categorically assume prostitution is harmful.
Mainly because of all the fights that happen on a regular basis in jails and prisons. There's hardly a day that goes by without a prison fight going on!
Men shouldn't be getting married anyways. It's not like women aren't having sex without being married anymore. But this does benefit women who are already married.
@@omelett9 We aren't a theocracy. We are a free country. A free nation. And a FREE WORLD. Yes i am a christian. But i also recognize that not everyone is a christian. And everyone deserves there free and individual rights. You give the government a step, they run a mile. First it's restricting the legalization of weed, than it's child labor.
Even if prostitution were legal, people still wouldnt care if a whore got slapped around. Ya know why? Because whoring out your body for money should have a negative impact on your life, not a positive one. Society should condemn them as the sluts they are.
A few years ago there was a big prostitution sting here in town. One of the customers who got arrested was a Catholic priest. What got me was that here we had one Catholic priest who was trying to satisfy his natural urges without molesting some little kid and it's him that got arrested.
@@EvasionUK True. But I live in New Hampshire and I grew up down in Boston. The level of sexual abuse of children in the Boston archdiocese was staggering and the way it was covered up by the hierarchy was scandalous. And similar behavior has occurred in other places throughout the United States.
@@EvasionUK No they aren't all child molesters but priests live in close proximity to each other and knew what their fellow priests were doing and said nothing. They were complicit by their silence and the catholic hierarchy covering all of this up. I was a catholic my whole life until this scandal became public. For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone can continue to follow this sick religion.
"... trying to satisfy his natural urges without molesting some little kid and it's him that got arrested." You conveniently forgot to mention that molesting little kids could get him arrested also.
exactly and there are body guards in many brothels, if a woman doesnt like the man she can call someone to get rid of him. its not slavery. prostitutes are people too
David Ryan I noticed that right away too. Along with the “You’re beautiful “ comment. Like shes was expecting them to be some crack whore looking broad.
@M M You mean the ones that are exploited by criminals because prostitution is illegal? Those are the ones that you are describing. In locations where prostitution is legal, the prostitutes have a tendency to look more like the ladies in the video. Germany has legalized prostitution, as does Amsterdam, but they don't live the life you describe, nor do they look like you described. The reason we have that here in the US is BECAUSE it is illegal, and criminals are running the industry. Legalize it and you would see rapid changes to where the industry would look similar to the two aforementioned locations.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Temporary is the key word. I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing on legalizing prostitution as both sides have extremely valid arguments. Countries such as France have legalised it and have had worse issue than when it was illegal. It depends soley on the society and the people in it. However, please get quotes right when you use them. You changed the entire meaning, permanent safety is quite different from temporary.
@@chrisjackson1215 I've never known temporary being there. Perhaps you're having a Mandela effect. Nonetheless temporary is irrelevant unless you have the mind of a Slave
@@chrisjackson1215 Also, I think you missed what he meant by "temporary" - it was an implication that when you start giving up essential liberties for security, you will eventually lose that security as you lose your rights. He wasn't talking about something like a state of emergency where some rights may be curtailed - say by curfews, forced evacuations, travel restrictions, or temporary restrictions on the right to assembly. So he was warning against permanent laws the can make people more secure indefinitely - but with enough of them, eventually you are no longer safe.
@@prodigalson6166 Franklin was implying that your security will wind up being temporary as the more essential liberties you give up you eventually wind up with no rights, and thus no security.
By that logic, I suppose all massage therapists are slaves as well, since they're forced to touch strangers to give them pleasure and then become dependent on the money. Same for chiropractors, personal trainers, yoga instructors, nurses, etc.
Let me rephrase: “getting paid a lot of money for a few minutes of orgasms is close to slavery”. Sounds like the exact opposite of slavery to me. Slavery is being paid nothing or almost nothing for years of misery.
@@justsomeguy3565 Illegal prostitution and sex trafficking has cases that can legitimately be compared to slavery; legal prostitution in a brothel is completely different. If you call those women slaves, it reflects that either you don't believe women are capable of making their own decisions or that somehow brothels have magic powers that force women to be there against their will. Which category are you in?
@@LaborHours LMAO okokok legislators don't have magical powers either. We could eaisly end up with back alley "legal" prostitution. Drugs STDs and coercion / enslavment. It's not going to be one big bunny ranch.
We had a case in my city, a prostitute was arrested so many times that at this point it cost the police too much to process the tickets, she said she will never pay the tickets and keep going out every night, I really don't understand why EU countries don't follow Germani/Holland and legalize prostitution,no matter how you look its a win win situation
@pat doyle maybe in 2015, but Sweden, germany, the UK, Belgium and France were all higher (and in the top 10) than the US last year, and the US wasnt even in the top 20 anymore. So is it baby steps for America or have the crimes of warfare increased across western europe as they get willfully invaded.
@@williamkramer8824 Wrong again. Let's use Sweden as an example - things that the USA would not report as even sexual assault are considered rape there. They changed their laws, and so the reported number of "rapes" went way up. The same happened here in the 60s and 70s - we changed the laws and reporting procedures and it appeared that crime skyrocketed - but it did not. It did go up some, but not to the degree the reported numbers show - not even close. The Swedes have not only made it far easier to report sex crimes and run PR programs to get people to do it, but they broadened the definition of rape. Amsterdam has basically zero drug crimes - because most drugs are legal. They have almost no prostitution crimes - because it is legal. But they still have plenty of drugs and hookers. You need to look deeper into the data before drawing conclusions. Another example - there were Republicans claiming that unemployment under Obama was nearly 50% (Trump was one) that is based on a perfectly valid statistic that includes every living human in the USA for newborn babies to the retired. What they don't tell you is that under Reagan that stat was higher. Don't be so easily fooled by fear mongers. www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/WP0KG/the-crime-situation-in-sweden-compared-to-the-us-in-4-charts
Prostitution is close to slavery? Going 4 years or more to college paying off a decade or more worth of student loans. Then sale yourself for the next 40 years to a boss where you don't decide when you work or how much you get paid. Now that sounds like slavery.
Rabbit I agree with you my brother. Me and you should run for Florida governor. You can be gov ill be vp. Doesn't matter to me. A black and white man I'm 31 you look my age. We live in a police state where everyone are slaves to the believes of others -forgoing violent crimes and stealing- humans should be free as god intended.
Yeah when she said that it was scary. I'm not for prostitution, but I also believe these women and anyone else should have the freedom to do what they wish.
@Tvoj Bog Something I said has triggered you and made you rather angry it seems. I suggest you examine these "morals and logic" because it looks to me like something has gone wrong.
Every job involves selling your body in one respect or another. Desk job? Carpel tunnel syndrome. Construction? Back problems, broken bones, lung problems. Lawyer? Your morals, well-being, sanity, and not being stressed. CEO? Your family life and morals.
Daniel Hesse sex has always been a sacred practice in human civilizations since our history. It ain’t the same bud since it’s a degenerate position with no emotions. You can’t compare regular jobs with prostitution, since it’s inherently scummy.
@@zhangjiang4246 Ancient Greece and Rome respected prostitutes as contributing members of their societies. Japan has the geisha, and the Chinese had their courtesans, and both were respected in their cultures. None were considered "inherently scummy". In fact, most cultures have had courtesans/prostitutes/call girls, and only the snobs, trying to prop themselves up as superior, looked down on them. An example: In medieval Europe, traveling minstrels were looked down upon, untrusted, and seen as degenerate, while prostitutes were considered a normal part of the community. Today, those traveling minstrels, now known as rock bands (or whatever your music of choice is) are paid millions to perform, while prostitutes in some countries are looked down upon as degenerate and untrustworthy. It is called culture shift, and most people don't even realize that they regularly happen, and then make false assumptions without understanding this.
I think that it should be legal, but I still think it is wrong. I think it is wrong to have sex with someone when you are not married to them, wrong in the eyes of God, and I believe it is the most intimate thing you can do. That being said, just because it’s wrong, doesn’t mean it should be illegal. Having an affair is wrong too, but that’s not illegal. This is honestly one of the few political issues that I agree with either side lol
Problem is, majority of prostitution involves drugs problem. If prostitution did became legal, it will just increase the the amount of drug addicts. Might as well remove the border at that point since we’ll just be Mexico 2.0
Wendy Murphy: "I believe that the majority of prostituted women suffer harm that is so serious; I would compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women, absolutely." 1. Prostituted women suffer where it is illegal, not where it has been legalized. 2. Claims to want to liberate women, but then states plainly she's willing to compromise their freedom for a falsehood.
Or translated: "I'm a mom and I know what's best for all these adult women who choose to prostitute." I honestly think prostitution is illegal because it all comes down to biology. It gives any working man options on where to get his sex. Take away these options, and women can get more out of a relationship (commitment and resources in the form of dates or gifts for initial or continued access)without having to put out as often and consistently. It basically forces men to be completely dependent on their spouse for their sexual urges. Until porn came out though.
@M M I have friends, with no sex, who were prostitutes both in the US and abroad. Where it was legal the prostitutes had a far better life and were in a better way in all respects than those here in the US in locations where it is illegal.
@M M Hey, it's cool. If your only encounters are with individuals that were in the profession here in the US, then I would have to agree with you on how their lives are, outside of Nevada (excluding Las Vegas which has the same problem as everywhere else it is illegal). Something I would like to bring up for your consideration is this: If we legalize prostitution here in the US, we can bring it under the regulation of OSHA, which can then put in health and safety regulation, such as regular drug testing and regular STD testing, for the workers. Licensing would also be required, like in Amsterdam, Australia, and Germany (among other countries where it is legal), which take those health considerations into account. Again, I will state that it isn't a profession I would like to see a family member in, but I am adamant that people be allowed to make their own choices in life, even if I disagree.
@M M How many have a choice? That depends on if they were forced into it through human trafficking or not. People traded as commodities don't get a say, and according to the Federal Human Trafficking Report, >95% of their cases involved the sex trade. So, no, those individuals had NO choice. They were exploited by criminals to fill a void created by having prostitution illegal in the US (outside Nevada). The others who get into the trade, choose to do so. In Nevada, and countries where it is legal, this is often, as seen by the ladies in the video, a considered choice. In locations where it is illegal, it is still sometimes a considered choice. Do some people feel pressured into it for various reasons? Yeah, that happens. But that happens for all professions. I know doctors who are only in the profession because it was expected by their family, but they aren't happy and want to do something else. You are correct, people in modern society are having more and more difficulty taking personal responsibility. That, however, says more about how families teach their kids today, than about our current topic. If parents don't teach their kids responsibility, then you can't expect it from them as adults. Going down that line of thinking leads to "people need the government to tell them how to live their lives." Letting the government decide your life for you is a VERY SCARY idea. For my final point, I think it should be legalized, as prohibition laws only bring in peripheral associated crimes that go along with the thing you make illegal. In the case of alcohol in the 1920s there were a whole host of crimes including: murder, illegal manufacture, smuggling, illegal sales and distribution, extortion, tax evasion (what got Al Capone in the end), and more. Marijuana has similar issues, but in states where it has been legalized, the peripheral crimes have dropped to negligible levels. Legalizing prostitution would lessen or eliminate most of the peripheral crimes, and other problems you mentioned. Keeping it illegal just keeps the cycle of crime running. At least while legalized we can ensure the health and safety of the workers and patrons, something that is currently lacking. What we are doing with keeping prostitution illegal, is legislating morality, which is a problem. When the government tells you what you can and can't do behind closed doors, you no longer have freedom. North Carolina already has some laws like that on the books (the only legal position is missionary and oral sex is completely illegal), but they aren't regularly enforced...at this time. Keep that in mind while considering whether sex should be illegal.
@M M Being a pharmacist and prescribing opioids to people is causing harm. Why not ban pharmacology because some people will use it in a way that harms themselves. Why do you think you have to police what people think and do?
I think this is a perfect example of how legality does not equal morality, nor should it. I think prostitution is morally wrong, demeaning, and evil. But consenting parties engaging in it doesn't compromise anyone's right to life, liberty, or property. Talk about the morality, sure, but don't legislate morality unless it's depriving people of their ACTUAL rights
@@Fairfax40DaysforLife look at alcohol, they prohibited that and what happened. Gangsters did it illegally. What did Congress do? Removed the prohibition. Now weed is slowly but surely gonna be the same to when you say prohibition works idk WTF you're talking about
2:53 This woman doesn’t sound too different from the SJW university professors that are trying to save us from ourselves with their moral “theories” of how we should think and act.
@Jason Fisher fascism of the right is impossible as fascism requires regulation and big government. the only right-wing element of fascism is on a political scale, as being nationalistic/racist. thats it. at most fascism is a combination of a left-economy and right-political system, thus centrism
@@eustacebagge3869 fascism of the right does exist, it exists everyone same as everything exists everywhere. It's not only idiots in the democratic party. It's not only asians in the republican party. It's not only sprite in the ice cooler. Its some idiots, some asians, and maybe some sprite, who knows, all I know is Facsism of the right is real.
I am losing interest and clarity in labeling people as left, right, conservative, and liberal. The major idea battle that matters is between control freaks and people who value freedom. There are those who think other people's bodies and property belong to them, and there are those who do not. The important conflict now is between libertarians and totalitarians. Not everybody is purely one of those, but those are the principles with elements that are being argued about.
women in prostitution are in danger BECAUSE its illegal, not the other way around. same with drugs, people will pay the taxes like with any other purchase.
The irony that the prosecutor doesn't understand is that her livelihood as a prosecutor depends upon the illegality of prostitution and that she indirectly earns money off of prostitutes. So, in a way, the prosecutor is also a pimp, since a pimp is someone who is associated with, usually exerts control over, and benefits from the activities of one or more prostitutes. This prosecutor does all three of these things.
No... She took the job combating prostitution because prostitution already existed... If prostitution no longer existed, presumably she could use her law degree for something else.
Reminds me of Omar from The Wire, in court testifying, the defense asking why they should trust someone who robs drug dealers... Then accused him of being "part of the corrupt system" that just feeds off the drug dealers - to which Omar replied "just like you man - I've got the gun, you've got the briefcase, it's all the same thing".
That seems a little silly, given that prostitution is only one of a thousand illegal acts which the prosecutor is qualified to prosecute. In other words... If prostitution ended tomorrow, the prosecutor could easily turn her attention toward some other crime, rather than drumming up more prostitution. But in a larger sense, you may have a point, as the world becomes flooded with lawyers in search of crimes, I suppose.
While I find prostitution distasteful, I do lean on the side of freedom and letting the free market decide if they want a product or not. I would be in favor of legalizing.
@@anon8206 Making prostitution illegal is not going to put an end to it, just pushes it underground and in many ways makes things worse. I think even you know that. I can see where you're coming from with your "slippery slope" theory, but zoophilia could never be a fully consensual act, whereas prostitution would be. Also I am SICK of politicians who think they can legislate morality, or the holier-than-thou populace who think they speak for everyone and want to impose their morals on everyone else.
@@anon8206 The prostitutes at the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels are not forced into having sex. Their "pimp", Dennis Hoff, never forced them to do anything. They can come and go as they please. I believe where it is legal, women are not forced. Where it is illegal, women who want out of it don't have any recourse against a pimp who forces them to do what they don't want, unless they are willing to potentially be arrested as well. Where it is legal, things are different. I don't know anything about zoophilia in Germany but if what you say is true, I certainly don't agree with it. You live in fantasy world if you think that making prostitution illegal solves the problem.
@@anon8206 It's your opinion... I'm obviously not going to convince you and you won't convince me. Meanwhile, I think I'll book a session with the beautiful blond sitting behind John. You can lecture me about my morals all you want. Oh, and a lot of jobs, legal or otherwise, have a "miserable existence". Coal miners in West Virginia, sewer cleaners in India, farm workers all over the country, flight attendants all over the world, you name it, face terrible work conditions but they still go into work.
@@anon8206 I vote for left-wing candidates, most of the time. I really don't care whether you consider me "different than leftists" or not, and I don't see a visit to a brothel as "destroying society" (not that I really planned on it anyway). I agree that coal mining is a perfectly honourable job but did somebody put you in charge of what is honourable and what isn't?
I'm a Lawyer (not in the USA), prostitution should be legal; just like owning an gun, driving a car, fixing a roof, selling Rx drugs: it just needs to be regulated. Have people take lessons in firearms, take the driving test, go to pharmacist school. The same with prostitution: take medical screenings, psychological tests, etc., everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their bodies, not just woman. Legalize prostitution and some crime rate will drop. Why is prostitution illegal? because it's morally wrong?
@@vi0let831 That would be just as stupid cuz pimps acts like their managers or supervisors and keep them safe from or a lot of trouble and they have some assurance that working under a pimp is safer. They're free to leave as they please.
Mahmudul Hassan Hasib No I know, but going off of how the law treats prostitutes, why arrest the prostitutes if they're the so called "victims" of this scenario (yes, there are cases of sex trafficking and it's really sad but I'm talking about sex workers who do their job voluntarily), when they could arrest the pimps, who are responsible for managing sex work in the first place? Wouldn't that make more sense by their logic? Not saying they should arrest anyone in the sex work industry unless they are legitimately causing harm to the workers or the customers though. I'm just hypothesizing what would make more sense because the way the law goes about treating sex workers is very backwards and hypocritical.
I don't agree with everything John Stossel has to say, but I always listen to him. I definitely agree with him here. As long as these women are adults, aren't being coerced, are being paid well and regularly test for STDs, I believe they have the right to do what they want with their own bodies.
“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” ~Albert Camus
@@nchrysalis1 is it killing if we can't prove its sentient (or at least on killing on the same level as murdering your neighbor, as opposed to cutting a blade of grass)? Also you didn't answer my question.
@@VincentGonzalezVeg the cell count isn't the issue. Your couch has more cells than me, doesn't mean I am not alive or that the couch is. We are talking about if a fetus in the womb is yet sentient. Also "mr feelings and bias" I'm pretty sure if that applies to either of us it fits you better.
I don’t understand why it’s illegal. People say it objectifies woman... like the millions of porn videos and pictures. It’s not like prostitution is something your forced to do
Prostitution is illegal but filmed prostitution is legal if u call it “pörn”
Bro. That's art.
@@dragonsmith9462 Even better. That's a legal loophole.
Legalize non - overdosable (grammar?) drugs and prostitution.
"Remember kids, she's not a whore if she's an actress"
This has been a message from the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints
@Mikael Yashuah Donoso he's making a joke, dipass. I was actually part of that exact church at one point, and I find the comment hilarious.
Jon Stossel is the best devil's advocate interviewer ever.
it's great how he can ask difficult questions to people he agrees with. i've seen no other reporter go the extra mile like that.
best way to put it
stossel is one of the few unbiased fair journalists left
America would be a better place if we had more journalists like Stossel
@@noahmoon2631 If we had more journalists like John Stossel .... we wouldn't need journalists. There would be more truth in the world, and nothing to debate about these subjects.
I've sold my body for money. I did asphalt roofing for ten years. It wasn't as respectable as prostitution; but, it paid the bills.
I really like you. I sell my brain for money.
I’m gonna bleach my hair and give it my best shot.
lol
So true I've nearly destroyed my body being a big rig mechanic and no retirement. Now I play poker just to pay the bills.
Way to get fucked.
I wish John Stossel was the next debate moderator, he seems open and pushes both sides very well!
No pun intended...
THAT'S WHY HE IS NOT MODERATOR!
One of the best journalists in the business
He's the moderator for the libertarian debates going strong 3 terms in a row i think.
Yeah but he doesn't favor either candidate, so they would never.
"Humans should not be subject to market forces."
Guess we need to outlaw all forms of _employment_ then...
Or the production of any goods and services. You are actually less subject to market forces when you work for someone else.
Or marketing thereof.
part of me is oddly excited by such a prospect. Totally illogical, but very imaginative part of my mind.
Automated luxury communism here I come.
I dont think other forms of labor are the same thing as selling access to your genitals and inside parts. Would you go to a restaurant and expect to eat your meal out of your server's mouth? Medical professions work the other way: you pay to have your insides taken care of; dentists, surgeons, proctologists, gynecologists, etc.
My favorite thing about Stossel is how he plays devils advocate on every point to show perspective
Where does he say he say that prostitution is bad, if he's just playing devil's advocate?
Stossel just wants some legal vagina.
He did deliberately appeal to the lowest common denominator to make the case against it look more inane than it is, though - and I don't support making it illegal.
It's a tad over propagandizing when he's the one playing devil's advocate badly; be better if he got someone that supports the other side that doesn't appeal to religious hang ups like the woman in the video (since there is a practical case to be made separate of religion).
@@euphoricatheist6694 Without religion (mainly Christianity and Catholicism) societies collapse into degeneracy.
Look at California as an example (or even Portland, Oregon). Human feces are all over the streets, needles are all over the streets, insane amount of homeless, lots of gays, crime, prostitution, etc.
Then you see that areas that are mostly Christian in first-world countries are the safest and nicest.
@@anon8206 While I agree that society collapses without religiosity, the case can be made that this is the Christians' fault in the first place. It was Christian societies that pushed the LGBTQRSJWHIV movement and enabled all that degeneracy with its overemphasis on tolerance and non-judgement.
It's ironic that the alphabet people blame Christianity for people being repulsed by them, claiming if it weren't for Christianity they'd have had all they demanded in no time - yet it's lost on such people that while Christian societies were promoting gay marriage, gay adoption and all that crap, it was many years before non-Christian societies (most of East Asia) permitted such insanity. Most non-religious societies (essentially every Communist society, for instance) outright rejected the institutionalization of gay marriage, for which there was no precedent in thousands of years of human history and was a radical idea to begin with.
It was only because of Christians' insane overemphasis on tolerance and non-judgement and all that kumbaya love is love crap that they got this far, and now they are biting the hand that feeds them.
the devil's advocate, indeed
I thought we couldn't tell a woman what they could do with their bodies.
Only if it suits the narrative authoritarian puritans are selling :)
@@nebula0024 I have the feeling that feminist fear when Prostitution is legal then men will leave them because they wouldnt endure their bullshit to have some sex any longer.
Indigard2 hahahahahaaaaa I think you hit a bullseye with that comment. 👍
@@indigard2747
B I N G Oooo
Dave bingo!
It’s cheaper than having a girlfriend or wife
...less degrading as well.
Just go on tinder, that shits free if ur smart
Are you sure it's cheaper to have a wife?
That's why "independent women" don't like it.
And do you think the girlfriend/wife industry likes that??? Hell no! That's why it's illegal, they're protecting their own monopoly!
/s
“I’m willing to compromise your freedom, to save the majority of women.” Wow, Benjamin Franklin must rolling in his grave.
"And your freedom is a sacrifice I'm willing to make!"
It's the typical leftist stance on everything.
She's a total big government shill mascarading as a Libertarian.
Thought exactly this when she said it.
You cant voluntary give up on your freedom and be a slave! How could the Law differentiate between prostitutes who are forced into prostitution and those who volunteer to it? Benjamin was a rich slave owner , he was protecting his rights form Democracy , wake up and read some history
Prostitution = illegal
Pornography = legal
What exactly is the difference?
oh damn yeah I just realized that... they're both sex for money, but one is recorded so it's fine!
Porn is considered "art"
NOBODY can make a compelling argument why these are different.
Both get paid I suppose haha
Basically the same with some "acting" and recording of the action. Performing disgusting "sexual" acts is considered "art". But creating art on a pastry for a gay couple isn't considered art and allows for persecution of the business in question. The irony of our government amazes me, sex in front of the camera with a little "acting" is just degeneracy along with legalized human trafficking which is also rampid in the porn industry. Porn does nothing but turn people into disgusting horn hogs.
“I CAN SAVE YOU!!”
*10 seconds later*
“Darling....darling...it isn’t about you”
Hahaha
Patronizing as fuck
She wasn’t ready
*30 seconds later*
"You should be ashamed of yourself"
Typical demoRats.
@@juanpaVlz ....and she says it with that accusing index finger stuck out like an erection. She is driven by her need to BLAME PLACE and make other women less that herself, NOT by any desire to HELP any women even those she calls " DARLING" . ,Classic woman hater
I swear america is the most uptight “land of the free”.
God no shit. The irony is that most of the 1984 bullshit comes from the leftist morons.
I'd say canada
land of the free not land of the immoral....
campkira lol, morality is way too subjective
wmfivethree lol, you really believe that?
Guess the whole "my body, my choice" gets thrown out the window with this choice.
FACTS! Abortion? Muh womens rights. This? Uhh, its immoral, bla bla bla
It's becoming obvious in the last couple of months. The whole talk about helping people and "my body my choice" and all that is just that: talk. These people don't care about equality, never have, and never will. They only care about equality when it's the other side in power. The moment they get their hands on the wheel, they suddenly want to be able to micromanage everything you do.
bruh momentum shut your hateful stupid ass up, your feelings dont fucking matter bitch
@bruh momentum
That's a terrible mindset. How is providing a harmless service for money immoral?
Don't you dare quote the Bible.
@bruh momentum cringe
All you have to do is video tape it and say you're making a porno then it's legal
this joke sounds familiar
@Sapphire Spire some licenses are just bs, but also cant you just make amateur videos and post on some website just for the fun of it? I think maybe a license is needed if youre planning on and you are getting a profit/income out of it.
If you delete it then theres no evidence you recorded it... smh
Ghost Noodle it’s after the fact is done and the money has been transferred, keep onto it for a bit just in case of some legal trouble done the line
@Xattack21 1 say you didnt like the lighting
"If I met these girls I would tell them I can save youuuuuuu!"
30 seconds later "You should be ashamed" Go figure 😆
Moral authoritarian hypocrisy at its finest. No surprises there.
@@Gamerguy826 so much virtue signaling narcissism on their part. Authoritarians can fuck off.
This is a surprise: Something me and conservatives agree with. Prostitution should be a personal choice. No government interjections. These anti-prostitution women are most indeed saying that a women shouldn't be allowed to have paid, consensual, fuck sessions with strangers is totally un-American!
@@dutchrjen Sorry for the assumption.
She says "It's not about you", then says that she wants to compromise their freedom and they should be ashamed of themselves. She is talking out of both sides of her mouth. What she really wants is to control them.
I appreciate the fact that John always plays devil's advocate, regardless who he talks to.
The woman in the cape who wants to 'save women' tells the same women 'honey, it's not about you'... I'm confused.
Its about her prosecution record.
Right. She has no clue how it became illegal--she just has the core belief that it is wrong.
Is all about Politics
Toxxaluvier, I think she revealed herself their, since she is under the microscope, she doesn't have to make sure what she says is logical.
The logic of regressive libtards
Prostitution is legal in most states you just need to be recording it they just call it porn instead of prostitution.
Porn is legal because lets face it. Who does not watch it? Meaning the people who makes laws in government.
That's not even close to the same thing.
Or just get married...ask Jeff Bezos
how utterly sad.
It's only legal to film porn in a few states.
Porn is legal because they pay taxes, prostitution is illegal because they don't pay taxes. The government needs to get out of everyone's business.
Where do they pay taxes at again and how?
Pornography isn't legal because people pay taxes with the money they make, it's legal because our ass backwards government has decided that as long as you're "acting" and THEN getting paid is perfectly legal, the irony of what's up for consideration and interpretation by our government.
Don't forget people selling tacos on the streets too don't pay taxes because usually you pay in cash or isn't true.
Thank god I don’t live in USA I live in Australia and prostitution here is legal if it’s licensed as well as independent sex workers 😂😂😂😂
I once saw a video explaining that porn stars tested regularly for STDs while prostitutes aren't
Wish people would just come out and say the obvious truth: They're against prostitution because it drives down the price of sex.
Can you explain this?
@@Marcobroomar Most sex and relationships are primarily transactional. Both men and women get sex out of it, but unless the man is top 10% by looks and she's only top 50%, or something like that, the women expect something more than just the sex. Typically, this is the man paying for stuff, and in the long run with relationships and especially marriage, it usually becomes more and more stuff for less and less sex to the point where the man is engaging in hundreds of hours of work, perhaps even thousands, that he wouldn't otherwise need to per hour of sex.
Contrast to prostitution where the your work hours to her hours exchange rate is perhaps 2/1 or 5/1 depending on your job. And you can change prostitute without a huge severance package if she starts jacking up the price.
@@junoguten I'll be damned! My grandpa was right when he said that prostitution was a bargain
@cecil236 I was hoping they would give it away for free, anyway gotta make more money I suppose
namely he cost of marriage
This is what journalism looks like. I come away with the point of view from both sides. It allows my thoughts to be dynamic while I try to make a decision. Thank you John Stossel
News is giving facts, logic and straight up raw info. Opinion will be people themselves to speak up. News nowadays is forcing opinion to our throat and brain. I know people aren't perfect, but I find John most of the time reliable.
@ oh yeah, if he was trying to present the other side the former prosecutor was probably not the best representative to argue for banning prostitution.
@ Agreed
@@joekeny there are no good arguments against legalizing prostitution, because bodily autonomy is a right. Putting someone in jail for engaging in consensual sex is completely absurd.
The prosecutor was certainly more logical than many other people I think John could have brought on, the problem is that the arguments against prostitution are inherently illogical.
@@tissuepaper9962 Bodily autonomy isn't a right, and you don't have a right if nobody pledges to effectively fight for it. Laws restrict "bodily autonomy" regularly. Whenever your country decides to fight a war and they're running low on soldiers, they can re-instate the draft lottery and you'll be out to the desert or jungle if you "win".
Stossel is like everyone's drunk uncle who has good ideas.
Stossel dumped a nut there for sure !
Prostituion is legal in many countries. Aren't the USA supposed to have FREEDOM ?
@@camilocuesta Eating rats and dogs is also legal in some countries, as is stoning, beheading... just saying... Syphilis and gonorrhea were a HUGE part of prostitution being outlawed in the U.S. years ago, new medicines have and can eliminate that problem. Street walkers don't go through the regiment of checks, etc. those in a brothel do. I believe it should be made legal IF done with checks and balances in place.
@@daverodkey Regulate it and give proper health care to sexual workers. Fight for your freedom
@@camilocuesta We are in the same boat... Same mindset.
One of the 5 things Nevada has right
1 Gambling
2 prostitution
3 legal weed
4 75mph highway
5 able to purchase nearly any firearm
You think drugs and solicited sex are fine? LMAO You have a warped sense of morality. Please give up your child. You're not fit to raise it.
@فهمي كتاني Said Allahu Akbar
South Dakota has even faster highways. There's hardly any people here so they let us drive 85 mph
@@PANZERFAUST90 It's freedom. You cannot make laws based off of personal moral beliefs.
@EaqIe That doesn't make it right...
5:50 "Those who would give up freedom for safety, deserve neither" Benjamin Franklin
@gunthreadadapters.com They're outlawing freedom of choice to keep girls from 'unsafe' prostitution. Prostitution can be harmful no doubt, but its the individuals responsibility to make their own decisions. Its the same for drugs, they outlaw drugs so we don't take them claiming they are harmful. I mean drugs can be very destructive, however, some people can use them responsibly so what authority does the government have to tell someone what they can and can't do with their own body in their own home. Its not the governments job to be the moral police.
Where are the angry feminist screaming "my body! my choice!"
The majority of feminists support sex workers.
Some feminists are prostitutes, some of them use prostitutes, and some of them are bitter fugly hags who want the prostitutes locked up LOL
THEIR BODY THEIR CHOICE IS JUST TO MURDER BABIES FOR PARTS AND BLOOD! FEMMINISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!
I'm guessing they're not too in to john stossel
The only sex work I support is independent sex work and legal brothels
I like how the prosecutor is worried about slavery when she puts people in jail and takes away their freedom
well tbh that claim is kinda stupid because there is a big difference between a criminal that deserves to be in jail and a slave that didnt do anything. What would you do leave killers be? Its not like everyone in the court must love slavery
That’s some terrible logic
Where they are then forced to work for the state.
@@YourSavant you forgot to add "for free", as you have to work when incarcerated with no monetary rewards. Well besides a shitty meal (that you have no choice on) and a 2" piece of foam on a steel bunk.
Oskar 464 making laws to put people who have committed no true crime is slavery. If you have commit a crime and what you did doesn’t hurt anybody, it wasn’t a law made to protect and you aren’t some criminal, you are a victim of a system set up to enslave you and put you in captivity.
Why is the government in the bedroom with consenting adults, unbelievable.
*cough* stds *cough* morally wrong. Empty sex is just not right by most people. What can you do, I don’t have a problem with the law since both people of the transactions are a little scummy.
@@zhangjiang4246 Religious morals have no place in the legal code.
Republicans asked this question 6 years ago but the dems wanted them to be in control. Blame the gays for using the government against people sexually
Mohammad was illiterate cause, they can’t tax that shit.
@Julian Borges right...because no one gets disease from free sex.
Although I dislike prostitution, I do believe it should be legal
Agreed. I feel the same way about weed. I don't like weed but don't tell me that it's okay to have legal alcohol but not weed. Alcohol abuse slowly kills the user, destroys families and sometimes kills innocent bystanders in drunk driving accidents but apparently marijuana is worse.
Yeah, not buying it.
@@JSchaffer214 Exactly
I believe all drugs should be legal. However, im fine with irresponsible use being illegal like operating a car etc.
@@travistarp7466 woah woah, not all drugs. Some drugs are way too dangerous and addictive but yeah weed should be legal.
I honestly don't get why it isn't legal. Look weed has been proven a lot of times to be way less dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes and it isn't that harmful to people with fully developed brains. So, there's no moral reason to make it illegal and if it is then it is a win-win scenario. People get to buy weed at their local convenient store while the government can regulate it and get money from weed taxes. See, it's best for everyone if it's legal.
Same goes for prostitution. Government gets money and people get to have sex. Heck, since it is legal it'd actually be better because no it's regulated. Prostitutes would actually have better working rights. STD's could be more easily prevented by making sure that the prostitutes get tested every few months and make it illegal to not have sex without a condom. It could even make somr people less likely to drug rape someone.
i heard prostitution dislikes you as well. so why do you "dislike" prostitution?
The prosecutor says, "I believe..." I can't stand these 'Mommy knows best,' authoritarians.
Women already wield overwhelming social influence, to also grant them majority political influence via the vote was a ruinous mistake. The authoritarian Nanny State has been the result.
"People will want to do things that are harmful to them."
I'm glad she knows what's best for others. Typical bureaucrat.
Yea, It's not like it's the only thing humans do that's potentially harmful to us, like alcohol and smoking, which are legal... This bitch gonna take people's freedoms to keep them safe from the scary liver and lung cancer? People have the right to make their own choices.
Vulpinetide Cute Times Not really, rights are fabricated under a moral code. You can’t make the choice to hang yourself because it would be wrong. You actually don’t have the right to make your own choices. Legally you have the right to make the Right choices.
This interviewer brings up the example of prostitution not being “forced” and that it’s “consensual” but we can apply that to someone killing themselves, it still doesn’t rid it of the immorality of the act.
The girls say that they are happy and imply that they are content with the choices they’ve made.... okay.... so was Jeffrey Dahmer, actually now that I think about it the people who usually do bad things are those who are looking for “happiness”... self serving, unenlightened, apathetic happiness...
Just because you CAN do something doesn’t imply you OUGHT to do something....
And because you can make choices that doesn’t give you the right to make those choices simply because you can make them.
@@denniswilkerson5536 and you cant just restrict freedom because you can restrict freedom.
just because you can decide what others should do doesnt imply you ought to do it.
they dont hurt anybody else, and i doubt they hurt themselves.
lol!
Eustace Bagge Do we allow people to kill themselves in society? They aren’t hurting anybody else.....
@@denniswilkerson5536 suicide is illegal, therefore prostitution should be illegal?
"I will save you by compromising your freedom." This sounds familiar.🤔
Yeah, dude! That lady is so out of touch that she can't even feel her brain think anymore. (Anyways, enough of the jokes)
It scares me, how she acts like a thought police. I guess she is one of Kronos devouring of freedom, thought, and living your life how you want it to be. Remember thought police hates philosopher's, to them it's like a nail scratching on a chalkboard.
Honestly when she said that it scared the crap out of me. Just like dems to suck away our freedoms because they dont trust us. I'm not for prostitution, but I also believe these women and anyone else should have the freedom to do what they wish.
The argument is being made by liberals: we should quarantine ourselves to save lives from the coronavirus. This argument can go on forever and it has. Ex: patriot act, national defense authorization act, TSA, CIA, FBI, FDA...
All of these programs are unconstitutional and have a major cost with unintended consequences.
@@estrogen_intolerant that's a very good point.
5:40 "it isn't about you" = its about my husband sleeping with you.
Exactly
Hahahah exaxtly
I think that's the real reason!
What happened to "my body, my choice?" This actually IS the woman's body.
shouldnt it be "our body our choice" it involves two parties that consent?
@@nerdienew911 it isn't "our" with abortion and that would include a minor. Prostitution is between two adults having sex. Except money is being exchanged for services rendered. This law is stupid on so many levels.
@@brianczeiner7627 what?
Well, what about suicide? Some laws are made just off of basic morals.
@@fenrix155 I think suicide should be legal or even doctor assisted. I personally don't wish to die a long painful agonizing vegetable death so doctors can use me as a guinea pig or to pad their pockets in the name of morality.
If you would keep prostitution illegal based on morals then why keep premarital sex legal? Abortion? Wealth? Obesity? Smoking?
The fact is, morals are a personal opinion. As a law, who gets to decide what is moral? I'm not asking for chaos, but a law forbidding legal adults to have sex for money seems ludicrous. As an adult, you don't need to partake in it just because its legal. Many people don't drink alcohol, but its legal.
She doesn't understand that the reason it is dangerous for women is because it's illegal they can't call the police if they're beaten or abused. If it is legal they can call the police.
Bingo!
LOL, if it were LEGAL your DAUGHTER may be considering working in that business. Ever think of that,,,Geez.
That depends. If you walk into that brothel, and it has specific rules as to what are the limits, i.e., hitting, etc
Kind of. If you were involved in some prostition scenario and you had to call the police for whatever reason, you won't be arrested for being a prostitute or hiring a prostitute. Kinda like if you went to a police officer and said I tried to buy drugs and he stole my money, they can't arrest you for saying you bought drugs because you weren't caught in the act. Some states might be different but that is the just of it.
@@Squarehead45 What's the problem about that?. If my daughter likes to be a sex worker why would I be angry/sad?
They are full grown adults. Let them make their own choices
bingo.......best answer in here, simple and to the point!!
L_W stds don’t give a fuck.
Julian Borges Who are you to jail women over what they do with their freedom? They are hurting no one.
@Julian Borges Who are they hurting?
@M M So if it was illegal it wouldn't happen? It would happen even more. And if there was no welfare this wouldn't happen? It would happen still. I am against walfare,but don't mess with my freedom or theirs. Fuck off.
"I would compromise your freedom", wow.
Yeah, compromise her freedom so that her stock in the corporate prisons goes up.
“I’ll compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women” I’ll throw you in jail to save you from making what I believe is a mistake. Stossel had this woman on the ropes the entire time. Asking very simple questions, and this lady’s responses beats around the bush. I can’t believe this lady was a prosecutor. Her debating skills are extremely poor.
@P. Spit Yes, she wants it to remain illegal so that she can maintain her job prosecuting prostitutes so that she can feel better about herself.
If it were legalized, and the associated crimes also went down (which is evidenced by countries where it is legal) she might actually have to work harder to justify her position.
"“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C.S. Lewis
Brilliant fucking quote.
Alden Buyer I disagree with that because robber barons usually prioritize their own self interest meaning that they can identify where they are hurting other's interests. A moral authoritarian will always believe that they are acting for the common good. An example is the crusades or the holocaust or even terrorism in general.
CS Lewis is very underrated. 🤓🍻
@@ZachBZera Mao Zedong, Adolf Hitler
"You should be ashamed of yourself", said the pot to the kettle.
Jazz Jackrabbit and that after she sponaniously wanted to embrace them with the words I can save you. She should help those that want to change their lives. For instance the ones whose passports have been taken.
+Jazz Jackrabbit Like the username :D
Jazz Jackrabbit is a libertarian too? Hmmmm, I wonder if the hundreds of hours of that game I played as a kid had some effect on me...
I'd like to see what was said just before that because it looks edited tbh
Right after she says that people shouldn't hurt each other.
What's ironic is that prostitution really is "my body my choice" whereas abortion isn't.
"I would compromise your freedom... you should be ashamed of yourself." Ah yes, the politician's way of thinking.
@M M I am willing to bet that she is also one of those women who stands up for abortion while screaming that it is a woman's right to choose what she does with her body. Now, she goes on this show and tells a woman that she can choose what she does with her body.
@@tmac2744 BINGO!
You should know that the "leftists" that you see in the media are the crazies and do not believe in the values that true leftists believe.
Love the ending where Stossel brought in the workers so that prosecutor can have her beliefs challenged. When someone says they are willing to "take away your freedom for the safety of others" their authoritarianism comes out in full force. Such logic has historically been used by kings and other tyrants to justify their heinous acts.
Nailed it. Gay marriage is here, drug legalization is here, prostitution is next. Law enforcement should never be used to protect people from themselves - that's insane and immoral.
Yup, it sure has. It's all for "your own good". Social security, medicare, prostitution, drugs, cigarettes, etc. The government (and some supporting morons) saying "We know what's best for you."
"Take away your freedom for the safety of others."
- The kings, tyrants, fascists, communists, socialists, and democrats.
To use current vernacular, the former prosecutor has bought into the patriarchy that prohibited prostitution in the first place with two contradictory excuses, to protect women from exploitation by men and to protect men’s virtue from lascivious women.
SgtPiggie actually its Christians.
"If I don't like somebody, I don't have to be with them.....Opposite of slavery I think."
Nailed it!
Nick Tanzillo yeah it basically just seems like if they find they man attractive then they have sex with them and get paid I wouldn’t be surprised if most of these women would’ve have sex with their clients even if they didn’t get paid
@@subscribetomefornoreason7294 No. They like the money more than the sex. Too bad "real women" can't admit to that, but clarity is not in their best interest.
Nick Tanzillo unless I really want that new pair of shoes...trading dignity for cash/stuff. There are so many movies about breaking free of a corporate stranglehold, but prostitution is a self imposed stranglehold according to the women who got out that I have counseled.
Why do you connect slavery with the prostitutes in the first place
Nick Tanzillo thing is...most whores could not care less who fucks them...as long as the jon gives them enough to score that next 8ball or gram of meth or whatever. Making it legal won't even put a dent in the amount of street whores simply supporting their habbit & spreading disease.
The prosecutor is a perfect example of big government always getting in the way and always wanting to “save and protect” you.
"Save and protect" is sugar coated code for "Government can't take a cut of the money, so it has to be illegal!"
@Phillip Hickman they could test
"I'm happy compromising your freedom if I can protect the majority of women"
@Phillip Hickman God doesn't exist and you don't decide what is immoral just because you have a Bible shoved up for butt lol
@Phillip Hickman what are you talking about prove what? I'm quoting the video, dumbass
"prostitution is close to slavery" "I'm willing to restrict your freedom"
Kinda sounds like not allowing prostitution is way closer to slavery
Absolutely right. In simple words, prostitution = individualism and marriage institution = collectivism.
Andrew Selby Hypocrites
Having to work 3 jobs to pay a mortgage, to pay taxes, to own a car, to buy food, clothing, utilities, etc is what I call slavery.
@@Idalych I think you missed my point... Slavery is about restricting a person's freedom, and the lady that was against prostitution said she was willing to restrict those girls freedoms... I'm all about freedom baby
Andrew Selby haha I was adding to your point, not disagreeing with you 😂
"The majority of women who are prostituted suffer harm" Yes. Because you throw them in jail.
Or force them to work illegally underground.
And the drugs don't help, either
"...who are prostituted..." is an important part of that sentence. Yes, if it's done TO them, we can consider that harmful. But change that sentence to, "The majority of women WHO CHOSE TO PROSTITUTE IN A LEGAL ENVIRONMENT...," and tell me what harm they suffer.
Sex has emotional effects.
@@30803080308030803081 Sometimes it does, sure. They can be good or bad. And they can be present whether the sex is prostitution or not. So...it's a logical falsehood to categorically assume prostitution is harmful.
jail is not a safe place it's dangerous.
It's not really dangerous, but I agree it's not "safe"
@@GIJew buddy jail is where actual rape cultures exist, to the point where we publicly make jokes about things like dont drop the soap
@@erules2534 "Don't drop the soap" isn't a thing in prison. It's an urban legend.
It is now mandatory at some women's prisons to check for pregnancy before release.
Mainly because of all the fights that happen on a regular basis in jails and prisons. There's hardly a day that goes by without a prison fight going on!
Simple, most men wouldn’t marry if prostitution was legal...
Men shouldn't be getting married anyways. It's not like women aren't having sex without being married anymore. But this does benefit women who are already married.
Facts 💯
They will still get marry, but by their religion, not by the law
@@omelett9 No. It leads to getting the government out of peoples lives
@@omelett9 We aren't a theocracy. We are a free country. A free nation. And a FREE WORLD. Yes i am a christian. But i also recognize that not everyone is a christian. And everyone deserves there free and individual rights. You give the government a step, they run a mile. First it's restricting the legalization of weed, than it's child labor.
"The majority of women who are prostituted suffer harm" Yeah, they do, because it's illegal.
Even if prostitution were legal, people still wouldnt care if a whore got slapped around. Ya know why? Because whoring out your body for money should have a negative impact on your life, not a positive one. Society should condemn them as the sluts they are.
@@classicjoe8014 haha, nice joke
@@classicjoe8014 As well as the johns.
@@classicjoe8014 They don't get slapped around in a legal, regulated market. Your statement is invalid, ma'am.
@@classicjoe8014 slap around a lady at the bunny ranch, and see what happens.
It's absurd that prostitution is illegal, yet PORN is legal!
Yep. All you need to do to have legal prostitution is bring a camera with you.
Both should be illegal
Remember kids, it's legal if you film it.
@Soupperol
"Without any type of disease or std"
Oh my sweet summer child
@@MrFreakman0 Your right to vote should be revoked.
"I believe" does not make something fact.
"You should be ashamed of yoursels!" - this explains everything
A few years ago there was a big prostitution sting here in town. One of the customers who got arrested was a Catholic priest. What got me was that here we had one Catholic priest who was trying to satisfy his natural urges without molesting some little kid and it's him that got arrested.
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAA
Not all priests are child molesters
@@EvasionUK True. But I live in New Hampshire and I grew up down in Boston. The level of sexual abuse of children in the Boston archdiocese was staggering and the way it was covered up by the hierarchy was scandalous. And similar behavior has occurred in other places throughout the United States.
@@EvasionUK No they aren't all child molesters but priests live in close proximity to each other and knew what their fellow priests were doing and said nothing. They were complicit by their silence and the catholic hierarchy covering all of this up. I was a catholic my whole life until this scandal became public. For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone can continue to follow this sick religion.
"... trying to satisfy his natural urges without molesting some little kid and it's him that got arrested."
You conveniently forgot to mention that molesting little kids could get him arrested also.
I'm 58 and have been selling my body to install Tile & Marble for 38 years. I'm usually too tired to go to the Bunny Ranch anyway.
Me to going to Nevada this March to die in their arms.. lol
Wendy Murphy: "I'd be like, I can save you."
Also Wendy Murphy: "You should be ashamed of yourself."
Also Wendy: Forgot to mention, you'll also be imprisoned and have a criminal record. But I'm saving you.
@Madubuko Ubesie
What exactly are you saving them from? Money? Free will? Other men?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
@Madubuko Ubesie freedom should never be shamed.
Sex in exchange for money and things also known as marriage.
That’s not marriage
It doesnt make sense how she says its like "slavery," when they are volunteering for it.
exactly and there are body guards in many brothels, if a woman doesnt like the man she can call someone to get rid of him. its not slavery. prostitutes are people too
And the whole getting paid like 300/hour part.
She probably means that many women that are coerced and manipulated to do this.
It's not all sunshine and bunny-ranches.
And get paid a lot for it, and really enjoy it, and it only takes minutes.
Prosecutor: "Listen darling". How patronizing. Attorneys like her are dangerous.
Come on. Plenty of women talk like that to each other.
Dude.
censor language much?
David Ryan I noticed that right away too. Along with the “You’re beautiful “ comment. Like shes was expecting them to be some crack whore looking broad.
@M M You mean the ones that are exploited by criminals because prostitution is illegal? Those are the ones that you are describing. In locations where prostitution is legal, the prostitutes have a tendency to look more like the ladies in the video.
Germany has legalized prostitution, as does Amsterdam, but they don't live the life you describe, nor do they look like you described. The reason we have that here in the US is BECAUSE it is illegal, and criminals are running the industry. Legalize it and you would see rapid changes to where the industry would look similar to the two aforementioned locations.
@@badlandskid That is because they are capitalist pros so have freedom, wealth and happiness. The socialist pros are the filthy looking crack whores
"Any society that would sacrifice a little Liberty to gain a little security would deserve neither and lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Temporary is the key word. I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing on legalizing prostitution as both sides have extremely valid arguments. Countries such as France have legalised it and have had worse issue than when it was illegal. It depends soley on the society and the people in it.
However, please get quotes right when you use them. You changed the entire meaning, permanent safety is quite different from temporary.
@@chrisjackson1215 I've never known temporary being there. Perhaps you're having a Mandela effect. Nonetheless temporary is irrelevant unless you have the mind of a Slave
@@chrisjackson1215
What do you mean by "worse problem"? Just curious.
@@chrisjackson1215
Also, I think you missed what he meant by "temporary" - it was an implication that when you start giving up essential liberties for security, you will eventually lose that security as you lose your rights. He wasn't talking about something like a state of emergency where some rights may be curtailed - say by curfews, forced evacuations, travel restrictions, or temporary restrictions on the right to assembly. So he was warning against permanent laws the can make people more secure indefinitely - but with enough of them, eventually you are no longer safe.
@@prodigalson6166
Franklin was implying that your security will wind up being temporary as the more essential liberties you give up you eventually wind up with no rights, and thus no security.
A willing seller / a willing buyer : Where is the crime ?
"Prostitution is close to slavery...."?!? That's a lot of mental gymnastics....
By that logic, I suppose all massage therapists are slaves as well, since they're forced to touch strangers to give them pleasure and then become dependent on the money. Same for chiropractors, personal trainers, yoga instructors, nurses, etc.
1. I can't choose a side on this
2. People are enslaved for prostitution.
Let me rephrase: “getting paid a lot of money for a few minutes of orgasms is close to slavery”. Sounds like the exact opposite of slavery to me. Slavery is being paid nothing or almost nothing for years of misery.
@@justsomeguy3565 Illegal prostitution and sex trafficking has cases that can legitimately be compared to slavery; legal prostitution in a brothel is completely different. If you call those women slaves, it reflects that either you don't believe women are capable of making their own decisions or that somehow brothels have magic powers that force women to be there against their will. Which category are you in?
@@LaborHours LMAO okokok legislators don't have magical powers either. We could eaisly end up with back alley "legal" prostitution. Drugs STDs and coercion / enslavment. It's not going to be one big bunny ranch.
Prostitution is legal in Germany. And it doesn't have a negative impact on society at all because it's much easier to control this way
We had a case in my city, a prostitute was arrested so many times that at this point it cost the police too much to process the tickets, she said she will never pay the tickets and keep going out every night, I really don't understand why EU countries don't follow Germani/Holland and legalize prostitution,no matter how you look its a win win situation
Other than immigrants thinking skin equals prostitute.... its not like there is a rape epidemic in western europe rn....
@@williamkramer8824
You're right - there is no rape epidemic in Europe. Rates of rape are much higher in the good old USA.
@pat doyle maybe in 2015, but Sweden, germany, the UK, Belgium and France were all higher (and in the top 10) than the US last year, and the US wasnt even in the top 20 anymore. So is it baby steps for America or have the crimes of warfare increased across western europe as they get willfully invaded.
@@williamkramer8824
Wrong again. Let's use Sweden as an example - things that the USA would not report as even sexual assault are considered rape there. They changed their laws, and so the reported number of "rapes" went way up. The same happened here in the 60s and 70s - we changed the laws and reporting procedures and it appeared that crime skyrocketed - but it did not. It did go up some, but not to the degree the reported numbers show - not even close. The Swedes have not only made it far easier to report sex crimes and run PR programs to get people to do it, but they broadened the definition of rape. Amsterdam has basically zero drug crimes - because most drugs are legal. They have almost no prostitution crimes - because it is legal. But they still have plenty of drugs and hookers. You need to look deeper into the data before drawing conclusions. Another example - there were Republicans claiming that unemployment under Obama was nearly 50% (Trump was one) that is based on a perfectly valid statistic that includes every living human in the USA for newborn babies to the retired. What they don't tell you is that under Reagan that stat was higher.
Don't be so easily fooled by fear mongers.
www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/WP0KG/the-crime-situation-in-sweden-compared-to-the-us-in-4-charts
Prostitution is close to slavery?
Going 4 years or more to college paying off a decade or more worth of student loans. Then sale yourself for the next 40 years to a boss where you don't decide when you work or how much you get paid.
Now that sounds like slavery.
I know a couple of sugar babies, need help for paying school. I don't see what's wrong with it. Help each other out
Somebody forcing you to do work for that boss? If you can walk out anytime, that is not slavery.
Ghal66125 Irrelevant. As the same statement can be used to invalidate the very argument this is meant to challenge. The point.
We're all a slave to money
Rabbit I agree with you my brother. Me and you should run for Florida governor. You can be gov ill be vp. Doesn't matter to me. A black and white man I'm 31 you look my age. We live in a police state where everyone are slaves to the believes of others -forgoing violent crimes and stealing- humans should be free as god intended.
This just shows what government is really all about. CONTROL
I can safely say that any fictionnal character saying "I'm willing to compromise your freedom to..." (5:47) is usually NOT the hero of the story.
Every parent with a curfew then lol 😆
Yeah when she said that it was scary. I'm not for prostitution, but I also believe these women and anyone else should have the freedom to do what they wish.
She's mad because she couldn't get paid.
or laid
She is jealous and resentful that she will never know the pleasure of casual sex.
I was at a strip club once where I paid a girl to go away.
@Tvoj Bog What is it that has made you so sore?
@Tvoj Bog Something I said has triggered you and made you rather angry it seems. I suggest you examine these "morals and logic" because it looks to me like something has gone wrong.
Every job involves selling your body in one respect or another. Desk job? Carpel tunnel syndrome. Construction? Back problems, broken bones, lung problems. Lawyer? Your morals, well-being, sanity, and not being stressed. CEO? Your family life and morals.
Prosecutor; your integrity.
Daniel Hesse sex has always been a sacred practice in human civilizations since our history. It ain’t the same bud since it’s a degenerate position with no emotions. You can’t compare regular jobs with prostitution, since it’s inherently scummy.
@@zhangjiang4246 wrong it's the oldest profession
@@zhangjiang4246 Ancient Greece and Rome respected prostitutes as contributing members of their societies. Japan has the geisha, and the Chinese had their courtesans, and both were respected in their cultures. None were considered "inherently scummy". In fact, most cultures have had courtesans/prostitutes/call girls, and only the snobs, trying to prop themselves up as superior, looked down on them.
An example: In medieval Europe, traveling minstrels were looked down upon, untrusted, and seen as degenerate, while prostitutes were considered a normal part of the community. Today, those traveling minstrels, now known as rock bands (or whatever your music of choice is) are paid millions to perform, while prostitutes in some countries are looked down upon as degenerate and untrustworthy. It is called culture shift, and most people don't even realize that they regularly happen, and then make false assumptions without understanding this.
Renting, not selling.
I think that it should be legal, but I still think it is wrong. I think it is wrong to have sex with someone when you are not married to them, wrong in the eyes of God, and I believe it is the most intimate thing you can do. That being said, just because it’s wrong, doesn’t mean it should be illegal. Having an affair is wrong too, but that’s not illegal. This is honestly one of the few political issues that I agree with either side lol
Didn't god say that we are free to pursue our own happiness, if this is their happiness than god should be happy.
Ryan Weeks yeah abortion is wrong and legal
Problem is, majority of prostitution involves drugs problem. If prostitution did became legal, it will just increase the the amount of drug addicts. Might as well remove the border at that point since we’ll just be Mexico 2.0
In some places it is illegal to have sex out of wedlock!!!
Lots of states have laws against adultry they just don't enforce it
Let adults be adults. Sweeping human nature under the rug isnt going to make it go away
Wendy Murphy: "I believe that the majority of prostituted women suffer harm that is so serious; I would compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women, absolutely."
1. Prostituted women suffer where it is illegal, not where it has been legalized.
2. Claims to want to liberate women, but then states plainly she's willing to compromise their freedom for a falsehood.
Or translated:
"I'm a mom and I know what's best for all these adult women who choose to prostitute."
I honestly think prostitution is illegal because it all comes down to biology. It gives any working man options on where to get his sex. Take away these options, and women can get more out of a relationship (commitment and resources in the form of dates or gifts for initial or continued access)without having to put out as often and consistently. It basically forces men to be completely dependent on their spouse for their sexual urges. Until porn came out though.
@M M I have friends, with no sex, who were prostitutes both in the US and abroad. Where it was legal the prostitutes had a far better life and were in a better way in all respects than those here in the US in locations where it is illegal.
@M M Hey, it's cool. If your only encounters are with individuals that were in the profession here in the US, then I would have to agree with you on how their lives are, outside of Nevada (excluding Las Vegas which has the same problem as everywhere else it is illegal).
Something I would like to bring up for your consideration is this: If we legalize prostitution here in the US, we can bring it under the regulation of OSHA, which can then put in health and safety regulation, such as regular drug testing and regular STD testing, for the workers. Licensing would also be required, like in Amsterdam, Australia, and Germany (among other countries where it is legal), which take those health considerations into account.
Again, I will state that it isn't a profession I would like to see a family member in, but I am adamant that people be allowed to make their own choices in life, even if I disagree.
@M M How many have a choice? That depends on if they were forced into it through human trafficking or not. People traded as commodities don't get a say, and according to the Federal Human Trafficking Report, >95% of their cases involved the sex trade. So, no, those individuals had NO choice. They were exploited by criminals to fill a void created by having prostitution illegal in the US (outside Nevada).
The others who get into the trade, choose to do so. In Nevada, and countries where it is legal, this is often, as seen by the ladies in the video, a considered choice. In locations where it is illegal, it is still sometimes a considered choice. Do some people feel pressured into it for various reasons? Yeah, that happens. But that happens for all professions. I know doctors who are only in the profession because it was expected by their family, but they aren't happy and want to do something else.
You are correct, people in modern society are having more and more difficulty taking personal responsibility. That, however, says more about how families teach their kids today, than about our current topic. If parents don't teach their kids responsibility, then you can't expect it from them as adults. Going down that line of thinking leads to "people need the government to tell them how to live their lives." Letting the government decide your life for you is a VERY SCARY idea.
For my final point, I think it should be legalized, as prohibition laws only bring in peripheral associated crimes that go along with the thing you make illegal. In the case of alcohol in the 1920s there were a whole host of crimes including: murder, illegal manufacture, smuggling, illegal sales and distribution, extortion, tax evasion (what got Al Capone in the end), and more. Marijuana has similar issues, but in states where it has been legalized, the peripheral crimes have dropped to negligible levels.
Legalizing prostitution would lessen or eliminate most of the peripheral crimes, and other problems you mentioned. Keeping it illegal just keeps the cycle of crime running. At least while legalized we can ensure the health and safety of the workers and patrons, something that is currently lacking.
What we are doing with keeping prostitution illegal, is legislating morality, which is a problem. When the government tells you what you can and can't do behind closed doors, you no longer have freedom. North Carolina already has some laws like that on the books (the only legal position is missionary and oral sex is completely illegal), but they aren't regularly enforced...at this time. Keep that in mind while considering whether sex should be illegal.
5:50 "i would compromise your freedom to protect the majority of women, absolutely" there it is, right there.
@M M Being a pharmacist and prescribing opioids to people is causing harm. Why not ban pharmacology because some people will use it in a way that harms themselves. Why do you think you have to police what people think and do?
I think this is a perfect example of how legality does not equal morality, nor should it. I think prostitution is morally wrong, demeaning, and evil. But consenting parties engaging in it doesn't compromise anyone's right to life, liberty, or property. Talk about the morality, sure, but don't legislate morality unless it's depriving people of their ACTUAL rights
Prohibition does not work.
You think John tried out being a "jon"?
It does if the people support the prohibition, or if the prohibitors have the means of enforcing their will.
@@Fairfax40DaysforLife So do you think there are any prostitutes? I mean since its illegal and enforced like you say. PROHIBITION HAS NEVER WORKED.
@@Fairfax40DaysforLife look at alcohol, they prohibited that and what happened. Gangsters did it illegally. What did Congress do? Removed the prohibition. Now weed is slowly but surely gonna be the same to when you say prohibition works idk WTF you're talking about
So legalize murder?
I love when John tries to play the bad guy just to show the bad guys that they’re wrong
2:53 This woman doesn’t sound too different from the SJW university professors that are trying to save us from ourselves with their moral “theories” of how we should think and act.
@Jason Fisher fascism of the right is impossible as fascism requires regulation and big government. the only right-wing element of fascism is on a political scale, as being nationalistic/racist. thats it. at most fascism is a combination of a left-economy and right-political system, thus centrism
@@eustacebagge3869 fascism of the right does exist, it exists everyone same as everything exists everywhere. It's not only idiots in the democratic party. It's not only asians in the republican party. It's not only sprite in the ice cooler. Its some idiots, some asians, and maybe some sprite, who knows, all I know is Facsism of the right is real.
@@BONZAImusik good for you. next time use less lsd before taking things for granted though.
@@eustacebagge3869 you must be fun at parties
I am losing interest and clarity in labeling people as left, right, conservative, and liberal. The major idea battle that matters is between control freaks and people who value freedom. There are those who think other people's bodies and property belong to them, and there are those who do not. The important conflict now is between libertarians and totalitarians. Not everybody is purely one of those, but those are the principles with elements that are being argued about.
women in prostitution are in danger BECAUSE its illegal, not the other way around. same with drugs, people will pay the taxes like with any other purchase.
The irony that the prosecutor doesn't understand is that her livelihood as a prosecutor depends upon the illegality of prostitution and that she indirectly earns money off of prostitutes. So, in a way, the prosecutor is also a pimp, since a pimp is someone who is associated with, usually exerts control over, and benefits from the activities of one or more prostitutes. This prosecutor does all three of these things.
Interesting, though, they are also trying to discourage the practice, which kinda knocks that back a notch. But hey, mostly there.
No... She took the job combating prostitution because prostitution already existed... If prostitution no longer existed, presumably she could use her law degree for something else.
Reminds me of Omar from The Wire, in court testifying, the defense asking why they should trust someone who robs drug dealers... Then accused him of being "part of the corrupt system" that just feeds off the drug dealers - to which Omar replied "just like you man - I've got the gun, you've got the briefcase, it's all the same thing".
That seems a little silly, given that prostitution is only one of a thousand illegal acts which the prosecutor is qualified to prosecute. In other words... If prostitution ended tomorrow, the prosecutor could easily turn her attention toward some other crime, rather than drumming up more prostitution.
But in a larger sense, you may have a point, as the world becomes flooded with lawyers in search of crimes, I suppose.
@@chrisdriver7776 Yeah... like forcing cat food prices to be lowered...
“Compromise your freedom to protect the majority” is very authoritarian comment that no cop should ever say.
I recoiled so hard that I think may have fractured my neck upon hearing that.
While I find prostitution distasteful, I do lean on the side of freedom and letting the free market decide if they want a product or not. I would be in favor of legalizing.
@@anon8206 Making prostitution illegal is not going to put an end to it, just pushes it underground and in many ways makes things worse. I think even you know that. I can see where you're coming from with your "slippery slope" theory, but zoophilia could never be a fully consensual act, whereas prostitution would be. Also I am SICK of politicians who think they can legislate morality, or the holier-than-thou populace who think they speak for everyone and want to impose their morals on everyone else.
@@anon8206 The prostitutes at the Bunny Ranch and other legal brothels are not forced into having sex. Their "pimp", Dennis Hoff, never forced them to do anything. They can come and go as they please. I believe where it is legal, women are not forced. Where it is illegal, women who want out of it don't have any recourse against a pimp who forces them to do what they don't want, unless they are willing to potentially be arrested as well. Where it is legal, things are different. I don't know anything about zoophilia in Germany but if what you say is true, I certainly don't agree with it. You live in fantasy world if you think that making prostitution illegal solves the problem.
@@anon8206 It's your opinion... I'm obviously not going to convince you and you won't convince me. Meanwhile, I think I'll book a session with the beautiful blond sitting behind John. You can lecture me about my morals all you want. Oh, and a lot of jobs, legal or otherwise, have a "miserable existence". Coal miners in West Virginia, sewer cleaners in India, farm workers all over the country, flight attendants all over the world, you name it, face terrible work conditions but they still go into work.
@@anon8206 I vote for left-wing candidates, most of the time. I really don't care whether you consider me "different than leftists" or not, and I don't see a visit to a brothel as "destroying society" (not that I really planned on it anyway). I agree that coal mining is a perfectly honourable job but did somebody put you in charge of what is honourable and what isn't?
I've had a few pimps myself. They were called employers. I did all the work and they kept most of the money.
If prostitution was legalized in the United States, Tinder and Bumble would be entirely different apps.
This is so true.
They already are. So many profiles might as well just say "I'm desperate to get my bills paid".
Could that woman be more condescending? "I can save you!" Here I've been told that MEN have the worst savior complexes.
thats what they want you to think haha
When these women get a police record for prostitution thats the only job they will be able to get. The prosecutor isn't helping them at all.
219Thompson female savior complexes got us alcohol prohibition and also contributed greatly to drug prohibition and gun control
“ I would compromise your freedom” she lost the argument
"I would compromise YOUR freedom to protect the majority." Wow, what a sacrifice. So noble a prosecutor.
I'm a Lawyer (not in the USA), prostitution should be legal; just like owning an gun, driving a car, fixing a roof, selling Rx drugs: it just needs to be regulated. Have people take lessons in firearms, take the driving test, go to pharmacist school. The same with prostitution: take medical screenings, psychological tests, etc., everybody has the right to do whatever they want with their bodies, not just woman.
Legalize prostitution and some crime rate will drop. Why is prostitution illegal? because it's morally wrong?
The former prosecutor has no wedding ring, what a surprise
That's funny, I noticed the same thing. No man in her life.
That's exactly why she hates prostitution... she's mad they can get it and she can't
She is pretty hot for a judgemental crazy bitch though
@@MrJoshcc600 Since the former prosecutor is out of work she should give working at the Ranch a try.
I’ll give her a big tip
Even as a teenager, I never understood why we arrest the actual prostitutes...
Same
Lol ikr, if prostitution is so harmful to these women, arrest the pimps not the prostitutes since they're the actual "victims" in that situation.
they have too much fun and nobody CAN HAVE FUN IF I DONT HAVE IT!
@@vi0let831 That would be just as stupid cuz pimps acts like their managers or supervisors and keep them safe from or a lot of trouble and they have some assurance that working under a pimp is safer. They're free to leave as they please.
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No I know, but going off of how the law treats prostitutes, why arrest the prostitutes if they're the so called "victims" of this scenario (yes, there are cases of sex trafficking and it's really sad but I'm talking about sex workers who do their job voluntarily), when they could arrest the pimps, who are responsible for managing sex work in the first place? Wouldn't that make more sense by their logic? Not saying they should arrest anyone in the sex work industry unless they are legitimately causing harm to the workers or the customers though. I'm just hypothesizing what would make more sense because the way the law goes about treating sex workers is very backwards and hypocritical.
:"I would compramise your freedome to save you." ahh thats all i needed to hear. another tyrant in power
Imprisoning people to save-them from-themselves is a tough sell.
I don't agree with everything John Stossel has to say, but I always listen to him. I definitely agree with him here. As long as these women are adults, aren't being coerced, are being paid well and regularly test for STDs, I believe they have the right to do what they want with their own bodies.
I sell my an hour of my life for $12.00.
Sold my body for 50 years and never had any fun
mick jones if that’s a marriage joke you just made piss my pants
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. If this makes them happy, so be it.
That woman had those crazy eyes. Definitely never listened a bit.
"I will liberate you by forcing laws on you was what I heard that woman in the end says
I would never buy a prostitute, but I still think it should be legal.... Most things like that are better off legal and regulated.
But start talking "abortion" and it becomes "MY BODY! MY CHOICE!"
Ain't that "STRANGE"?
Right?!
Punish the law abiding while promoting black market forces? This prosecutor is insane.
Moving to Thailand. The US is so depressing.
Is it hard to get laid in the USA because of feminism and incels
Europe legalizes this and weed
“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.” ~Albert Camus
So killing unborn people is legal, but prostitution is not. Where is the logic here?
do you remember anything while you were in the womb?
@@erules2534 What is that supposed to even mean? Is that a justification for killing babies?
@@nchrysalis1 is it killing if we can't prove its sentient (or at least on killing on the same level as murdering your neighbor, as opposed to cutting a blade of grass)? Also you didn't answer my question.
how many cells do you count a a life mr feelings and bias?
@@VincentGonzalezVeg the cell count isn't the issue. Your couch has more cells than me, doesn't mean I am not alive or that the couch is. We are talking about if a fetus in the womb is yet sentient. Also "mr feelings and bias" I'm pretty sure if that applies to either of us it fits you better.
I don’t understand why it’s illegal. People say it objectifies woman... like the millions of porn videos and pictures. It’s not like prostitution is something your forced to do
Lol all jobs in existence objectify people. Hell things like onlyfans exist now.