Harley Davidson actually made a fast bike!?
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well the consumer base really hates when they change. ie vrod and all the little fun low cc bikes
@@panrak123
Man you gotta understand we are more big V8 low end torque guys than high revving flying down the highway guys. Nothing wrong with either but you're not getting our 65 y/o asses propped up on a bike or laying on a tank.... 😂
Ass, gas or grass... nobody rides for free.....
@@thatkajunguy8029couldn't agree more. I ride a naked bike but I don't like all the stereotypes everyone throws around. Everyone gets a bike that that like and that suits their ride. I don't ride a sport bike because I like my wrists and I commute to work but I don't ride a cruiser because I ride a lot of corners and like to have fun. So to each their own! Keep the sticky side down.
@@thatkajunguy8029 I understand fully. But you gotta realize once you old heads are gone so will harley. They were not getting any younger customers until recently with the revolution engine. And even then its a very small amount due to everyone under 30 unable to buy any vehicle more than 5k. If they do not change with the times faster they will be left behind.
@@panrak123 Been hearing that since the mid 90s and yet, Harley still tops the list in motorcycle sales in the U.S. year after year. It's cool to repeat things you hear I guess but the fact remains that Harley is still top dog. There are bikes like Royal Enfield out there putting out 3k bikes and Honda and Kawi and all the other import builders have had bikes between 5k and 15k for years and years and years and Harley is STILL beating them. Are sales going down? Sure. But the fact that sales have been declining for years and they're still on top says something. It's still cool to hate on the king, but come up with something new as to why everyone else is still lagging behind and Harley is still on top.
Very underrated bike for all-round use. People sleep on these ADV bikes for the street. They’re so comfortable and still stupid fast.
Why would an ADV rider purchase this over a GS?
@@yourwifesboyfriend6081 I'm just referring to ADV bikes in general. I prefer the r1250gs over this after having rode both
@BlackRiverRider couldn't agree more. They're a mixed bag of everything. Not as fast as the fastest, not as comfortable as the most comfortable but can go the mile against any bike type out there. Off-road, road trip and even some nice rips here and there. I put ADV bikes at the top of the list personally. They are the Swiss Army Knives of motorcycles hands dowm.
@@BlackRiverRider I see, I wasn’t running on enough sleep when I asked. Definitely agree on that point.
@@yourwifesboyfriend6081Good question. I bought the Pan America over the GS for 2 main reasons.
1. The dealer network. My closest BMW dealer is 50 minutes from my house. I have 4 Harley dealers within 35 minutes.
2. Price. I would’ve spent about 1000$ more for the bike with everything I wanted on it. Not a big deal when you’re spending this kind of money on a bike, but every little bit helps.
I bought the Pan Am new in March of 2023. I have a little over 17,000 miles of smiles on it.
I wish I would’ve gotten an ADV bike years ago.........
Bros just casually wheeling a Harley Davidson 💀💀
@@slsumfI had to check if someone else caught that😂
This model is easy to wheel
He will in fact steal your girl
People wheelie Harley’s a lot it’s not that hard because they have so much torque
Pretty common these days really
That exhaust was sooo restrictive. I can only imagine how fast it could be.
I'm thinking the same thing. Won't be long and custom should available, will be the cheapest way to get more from it
you won't gain much bottom end or torque though
@@ih8momjokes1 neither on top. A single exhaust cannot transform a bike, most hear the sound and think "oh it's fast".
It has a full size catalytic converter, full resonator box + a huge muffler. I did a muffler delete on mine and kept the cat and resonator
V twins need a little backpressure to make torque, 2 into 1 headers work well with them
Finnallllly the brah is riding my bike. Just casually wheeling her heavy ass. Fuckin love it 🫡
thats how i was feeling lol i got the same color
200 pds lighter than a lowrider st
Brother, I don't watch your channel super often but, these are the moments I come here for. It's so great to see someone riding this how we all want to. Every video I watch, they ride it like a granny. They ride it like it's a traditional Harley or they just take it on some fire trail. It's good to see someone actually ripping it. Like you said man, 1250cc. It's rowdy.
😎BROTHERRRRR!!!✌️
This is the best review of this bike to date
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It's so funny watching brah do brah things on a adv bike
Going to the dealership tomorrow to try and make a deal on this bike. This video just made my mind up. The way you wheelie this adventure bike is just rediculous bro. Your a legend!!
My dad test rode a Pan-Am while I followed on a Sportster S. We were both surprised at how nimble and quick these new Rev-Max motor models are. The only real problem we have with them is all the exposed wiring and tubes on the left side.
...well, that and the price.
Test rode both and the sportster S needed fine tuning for controls. But overall both bikes rode great. But the price tag of pan am. Id rather get a 6-700cc with money to spare for upgrades or 1000cc.
Since im riding with other sport bikes, im gonna have to make the transition over from HD.
so cool to see you ride all these different bikes, i'd love to see you ride a VMAX either generation and see your thoughts on it, i've owned gsxr 600s, 1000s cbr's ridden almost every bike out there being a motorcycle tech for 10 years and i recently picked up a 2000 vmax and boy that thing is a hoot, clutching up second gear wheelies at 50mph on a cruiser is just wild.
And the nice thing about the VMAX no bulshit maintenance to worry about I wish they would come back with those power Cruisers.
Harley has been capable of making a fast bike for a long time but their target buyers don’t want a fast liquid cooled smooth bike lol
I work at Harley and this is 100% true 😂
Not true. It’s the touring/cruisers that need the character. We’ve wanted the “Bronx” for over a decade, yet they put everything into that battery operated scooter. We want a naked sport bike, with this type of motor. Plenty of us HD owners want it, maybe not those randoms hanging around the dealership with a HOG vest on, which do not represent 90% of the actual riders.
They not only could, they did make one for awhile, the VROD. I had one, it was a very good machine, and it's fast. Not 1000cc fast, but compared to other Harley's, it's a rocket. That bike came out like 2 decades ago, never caught on, but I really liked mine.
@@michaelfink2070 VRod was fast for an HD, 115hp/84ft lb is a middleweight naked output, with most of those weighing in right at 400 lb. They need to produce a 400-450lb bike on a naked/sports chassis holding the PanAm motor. That’s what HD needs and the people want.
@@blakestanley6210you say that like youre in charge of r&d LMAO
Brah, I just bought this bike a few weeks ago and I'm so stoked you made a video with it.
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just about 200k subs congrats brah!
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I love how he’s talking about the bike while top if it out
Didn’t expect to see anyone riding a big adv bike like that but you would be the guy to send it. Fun to watch you rip on it too brahhh!
brah probably the only guy to ever do this on a pan america and he will probably be the only guy to ever do it lol
Not the only guy
It’s a bike that’s been discovered by a number of stunt riders, if social media is any indication. The Pan America is a beast.
Educate yourself. There is a whole series of these bikes that race. It's called hooligan racing
My bike read 116F up here in Frisco just a few hours ago. ☠️
That was an excellent review, you pushed the bike, got some numbers, had the fun, and did it all safely!
A buddy of mine, got one of these bikes, and I rode it, and I was shocked at how fun it was. Hopefully Harley goes in this direction with these new motors.
Mad wheelie skills! Thanks for sharing Sir!
I bought one and I've been a Harley guy pretty much all my life. At 65 I may be old but I'm not dead yet and the RevMax 1250 as tuned on the Pan Am is just badass. I still have my big, heavy ass Street Glide for those situations that call for that sort of thing. The Pan Am is just the sort of variety I need in my life right now while I am still fit enough to control and enjoy it...thanks for the vid! Grip It and Rip It!!
That upright naked bike with the Revolution Max engine almost happened. It was called the Bronx but the new CEO scrapped it right before it was supposed to start going into production. He almost scrapped the Pan-America too but it was too far into the development cycle to be cancelled without too much of a loss.
The 90 degree v twin in the Sportster S and PanAm is awesome. The thing is really quick.
its 60 degree 😭
They have a split pin crank to mimic a 90 degree v.@@ThomasWArduino
@@samrudner9762 The angle is the angle.
@@elarr8733 I know what you’re saying but it has a 90 degree firing order. Compare to the old 883 and 1200 this thing is miles ahead in performance and efficiency.
@samrudner9762 it IS a 90 degree v twin but varies from traditional harley engines because bc it is liquid cooled and has 2 crankshaft lobes one for each piston which cuts vibration and is just way more power
If you follow MotoAmerica, (used to be AMA pro), you know that Harley competes well in two classes. One is the bagger class, and the other is the 'Hooligan' class. The Pan America seems to be the bike of choice in the hooligan class. I was talking to the guy that used to own the Honda dealership in town one day about cruiser bikes, and I mentioned the clunky transmissions. He said "Yeah, they like that - it makes them sound like Harley's." The clunky transmission isn't a flaw, it's a feature. Also Harleys are generally rubber mounted these days. You need to ride a rigid mounted Harley to really experience vibration. The Sportster S has the 1250 motor. Many people like the Nightster model better, and it's probably more like the MT-07, but it has a smaller 900cc motor. The S is faster, but some people think the Nightster is more fun.
if they let honda race the goldwing in the baggers class they would totally win
We do like the clunk because it let's us know we definitely changed gears..... I rode a Honda my buddy had picked up and I was constantly wondering if it had actually shifted...😮
@@thatkajunguy8029 Where I run into that all the time is at a light when I think I'm in first but I'm actually in neutral. What happens sometimes is it crunches, but doesn't go into gear. In fairness there is a rather large green light on the instrument panel that is telling me I'm in in neutral. Now for Japanese bikes, they always tell us we should leave the bike in gear at the light, but the last time I rode a Harley, I did like to go into a neutral at a light because the clutch pull was non-trivial.
The Pan America is an awesome machine when it works. I had one for a year and it was constantly at the dealer. Sadly. I really enjoyed that machine.
This was my worry when looking into buells
I inherited a lightly modded Buell Cyclone M2 that makes approx 120/90 and this seems like a similar modern experience in an ADV chassis. Totally different power delivery than something like a liter bike. My other bike is an MT07 so your theoretical bike would be my dream.
"I'm kinda scared ain't gon lie" perfectly describes how I feel handling it's weight tho and carby era power means it starts/idles like it hates it while fouling plugs.
Those Cyclones!
They were great!
1200's with thunderstorm heads.
Didn't take much to wake them up!
The Revolution Max 1250 is a 60-degree V-twin. That’s the same angle as the V-Rod’s Revolution motor, which Harley-Davidson produced from 2001 to 2017. The current Revolution X motor used in the Street 750 also uses a V with a 60-degree angle. very fast engine
Same bore and stroke as V-rod too, with a pipe and tune the 60 degree vtwin somehow sounds like a v8
I love the hell outta my Pan Am.
Btw, it looks like whatever mode you're in is blue, it's even quicker in Sport mode.
I know one of the main differences in the motor is that the new revolution engine uses a dual crank pin set up instead of the traditional single crank pin that harley uses, allowing it to make more top end power and rev higher
The smile on my face, whenever I see a new gixxer brah video!
The Pan'Murica Dirt Glide is a crazy beast of a machine when you feel jumpy that rides like silk when you just want to cruise the back roads. I love it.
Whats murica😂
Love mine, they did a great job. Definitely a premium bike.
Awesome. I have the same bike. Speed is limited because of the tires. When you put street tires on the dealer can unlock more speed.
u know why the 10% of the glass from top have the glich effect ? is there a reason for that ?
@@king_b7160it’s bent so it bends the light going through it
Why not have the speed completely unlocked by a third party tuner?
@@austinfleck8664 Because it's not safe for the tires on the bike? You know, the only thing that actually touches the road and gives you traction?
@@austinfleck8664Warranty
Best review or test ride video I’ve ever seen. Awesome ! You did a great job. Wish more people (TH-camrs) did it like this…not all riders ride slow and always keep two wheels on the ground. So I appreciate seeing what the bike can do for the not so average rider.
Only gixxerbrah can make a Harley cool again
The naked bike you are asking for is the Nightster. The newer Sportsters are also equipped with the Rev Max engine as well
I’d love to see you rip a highway run on a “traditional” Harley - a 114 Street Bob?? 🤞 Thanks for being awesome brah!! 🤙
Yeah me too
Dyna Brah,...make it happen 😊
I have the Sportster S which has the same engine. It’s a lot of fun.
I don’t want to get to sappy or anything but your videos have helped me through some rough times
best pan America review yet.
i own a pan america special love it and sounds pretty good with a exhaust. i wanna lower it an put street tires on it and a tune to unlock its full potential. love the vids as always brahh
Hell yeah always a good day when the Gixxer Goat posts
Great video, loved the bike and I would love to see more of this bike content. Maybe exhaust and tune??
Looks like your having a blast! Your right, I've heard a lot of good things about this bike. I've also heard a lot of negatives, usually coming from old schoolers like me. I'm one of those people with an open mind, so when I saw this bike I went to go see it in person. I loved it. I thought, " these guys have some balls to throw this in the face of the Harley crowd! " I'm glad they did.
Congrats on the 200k subs brahhh
Thanks brah
That one's still limited! Had mine tuned, 270 kph and sounds brutal with the Dr. Jekill & Mr. Hyde exhaust. Such an incredible bike
congrats on 200k!
FINALLY a PanAm is ridden hard ! God bless The Brah. ☮️🔥
make more videos riding different types of bikes
"anyways this is their adventure bike" says as he's wheeling it☠☠
Hey @gixxerbrah, the sportster s is that naked bike with the 1250 you’re looking for. That bike is stupid quick
We old Harley riders are not buying many bikes anymore so if Harley is going to survive they gotta get you younger guy's asses in/on their seats..... 🤙
Have fun and enjoy the ride.......
Looks pretty slick bro. I definitely wouldn’t mind adding that to my collection
I own one, Yes it's fast. it's the best all around bike hands down. I have a vance & Hines pipe and a bigger cold air intake on mine. It sounds great!
I was stupid enough to buy a buell years ago it had a clunky junky trans also. Glad to hear Harley is keeping the tradition alive 😂
Lookin pretty slick on that close out wheelie brah
The Harley Purists are a dying breed, Literally.
Been hearing that for 30 years. They must be extremely long lived.
Made in the USA goes a long way
Dang, I had mine at 135 playing with an old M3 a while back, but I was loaded down with the aluminum panniers and top box full of crap on a 5 hour ride. It was SUPER sketch and wobbly but never evolved into a tank slapper. I keep saying I'm gonna take the cases off and see what she'll do, but when I want to go fast I just take the 1190RX, lol.
The way you just rode this bike like any other has me cracking up 😂
Bruh, you have totally redeemed yourself.
Way better than lane splitting @ a buck 80.
Every other video i watch of this model has someone trying to maintain 50 on a gravel forestry road or falling over in some deep loose sand.
1st vid ive seen-wheelie it and take it to its top!
Jollygoodshow.
Its basically a next generation v-rod motor which is a good engine, smooth builds power up top
Harley Davidson made a fast bike back in 2002 with the VRod. But people kept wanting to compare it to crotch rockets as far as “speed”.
The new Revolution Max motor is extremely similar to the VRod Revolution motor.
The VRod was also a style before function design. Willie G Davidson was a style guy. He wanted a certain look. So it compromised cornering.
It was a leap forward for HD. But was it priced where younger people could afford it.
The Pan Am was purpose built. And is targeting a market that can afford it.
Excellent motor in a really good bike. HD needs to pull the trigger on a Naked with the same motor.
I have the same bike with 28,000 miles on it. Put a Vance & Hines exhaust and it’s sounds awesome
Brrahhhhhh!!! Get your hands on a Buell super cruiser !!! 180hp
whataap breahs never gets old love you man
If I remember correctly........they went DOHC and changed the angle of the cylinders. The main biggest difference is the angle change. All the other Harleys have a dumb angle which causes a weird firing order on the crankshaft. That's what gives them the iconic sound and vibrations. But not good at all for power and efficiency . And I'm pretty sure they sourced it from some other company. But I could be wrong. It's been a while since I read about it.
It's liquid cooled and undersquare.
Yes when I test rode all the Harleys at the demo days my favorite bikes were the Pan America and the Sportster
Mine was the Breakout
look up the harley bronx, its a rendering of a potential upright harley with that motor, hopefully becomes a things
You can get these new for under MSRP. I got a s1000 XR instead.
Nice! Just test rode that bike…unfortunately on a BMW group ride with no highway. Liked it a lot…. Take care!
Forget the usual reviews..this is the one that matters..if GB approves, I’m good w it
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I love Harley. mainly because parts are there, now. I want to see you rip a Road Glide I don't know if you're taking requests or what but YEEEE-HAAAA!!!!🤠🤠🤠
I wish they would’ve made the Bronx with that motor in it
Brahz out here bout to start buying lookin at a Harley!
It would be dope if Harley randomly made a 600 super sport
This bike gonna hurt some feelings out there lol 😂 the big chugga chugga bikes gonna all be gapped by an adventure bike
First time I ever saw a Harley on the rear wheel. Shout out to Haltom City. :-)
I am glad to announce I am officially a gixxer boi, i bought a 07 gsxr 750 today
Nice..how many miles on it?
@@patrickmba7638 6300
Its 111 now down from 112. We should celebrate lmao
What we need is that Rev Max 1250cc in a Fat Bob!
Dont buy one. I have 1200 miles on it and its been in service 4 or 5 times for limp mode. Had to get a lawyer involved because the dealership wont take the bike and give me my money back. Its unfortunate because i love the bike otherwise. But im tired of random limp modes and check engine lights every 150 miles or so. Its fucking ridiculous
The sound of this bike doesn't come through well on video audio, but it has cool spicy rumble to it irl. I feel like some aftermarket love would really bring it to life. And some way to defeat that limiter :D
Fun seeing you test the Pan-Am. ADV/Touring bikes are pretty fast.
Horsepower and torque mean nothing without mentioning the weight.. the power to weight ratio on a bike is really the number that is important if you want to compare bikes
these bikes are also tall af! respect
That was so crazy. I was scared watching you 😮 did not know it would hit 140. Be safe 😮
Love my Pan America, such a fun bike. Wish i could get that front wheel up like brah
The revolution max motor has a radiator unlike the 1200 evolution motor which is air cooled
Harley has always known how to make fast bikes. Come to WI and ride my Buell brah 🙂
I rode one in Florida. The moto feels like a chainsaw in sport mode. Easy to wheelie. I'd love to own one
I think it looks so funky
I envy you man. I find that when riding hard, I catch up to a car I’m threading before I can lean the bike hard enough to avoid their rear corner
Dang, a Harley that doesn’t sound like “putt Fart…Putt Fart…Putt Fart… putt putt… Fart Fart” 😂
Bro crazy on the bikes
They we’re going to make a naked upright called the bronc but it got put on hold. Look it up its badass same motor
hey brah was wondering how you bypassed the clutch switch when installing the impaktech clutch lever, did you use a relay if so where did you get it. Thanks
I just put a little button connected to the wires push it to start turn it off when running