Whenever I feel a little down or sad, I come here to watch this warm and cheery publication. It positively makes my heart buzz with an inexplicable sense of joy...
Wokstar Eugene he stared in the beginning of the video that he has gone on over a dozen dives to recover the dead bodies of drowned cave divers, he is definitely the real deal
@@moogybannahilstopaflingon6803 This isnt about personality. This is about him being direct and straight to the point with his students. Informing them about the dangers of cave diving. To always follow the rules or die.
I have two friends who have been diving in the vast caves here in central Florida. The preparation they go through is amazing. They have found human bones among many other artifacts. They both know divers who have died here. About 25 yrs ago, they tried to interest me in cave diving. Thankfully, my dislike of confined spaces kept me away from it.
@@donraptor6156 Sorry I had to laugh at your comment. When you say you've been there a few times, do you actually mean you've been in an underwater cave, lost, without lights and little air? A few times? I'm sorry, but you'd be dead. It's not even a question of if. It's a certainty.
This man actually just lost his son in a cave diving incident a few days ago. It’s a terrible loss. Say a prayer for his family. Rest peacefully Jared Hires.
I love it, films should look like they are films, not this weird really realistic looking definition that looks close but still our brains know the difference
Don't be afraid, be trained. I started cave diving at age 60 and it is the most fun I've had in 27 years of diving. There are miles and miles of caves that have been explored and mapped with great guidelines installed pointing the way in AND OUT. You'll see sights like nowhere else on earth, incredibly beautiful and remote. Lamar's video is to encourage you to do cave diving right. It's a great adventure. LET'S GO DIVING!
Diving, especially in caves is an activity in which, no matter your training and experience, is an activity where a lot can go wrong. Each dive has its risk of being your last, you just have to accept it but not forget it.
A week ago, I had my first twinset/drysuit dive in a nearby lake, only 5-7m deep, where the average visibility was about 1 foot. When I first saw how a bare touch of the muddy bottom suddenly reduced the visibility down to zero, I realized that in a cave, I would have definately been screwed. Now I saw this very educative video ... this all is a really serious warning. The temptation to explore, so true! Many thanks for this video.
I think the danger is in being enticed by a strange-looking passage and you break your plan "just a little" to check it out and that's where you get stuck and die. These deaths remind me of stories in mythology.
He's Lamar Hires, owner of Dive Rite (diving equipment). He's one of Florida's most experienced cave divers. Open water diving is one thing and tech diving is another. You'd be surprised how many open water divers are tempted to venture inside of a cave entrance. Unfortunately that's all it takes for a fatality to occur, and most cave related fatalities have been from untrained OW divers. Diving is a magical activity; Just stay within your training, experience, and comfort level. Happy, safe diving
Isn't deep scuba diving comparable though? You can't ascend too quickly so if something goes wrong you are pretty much as trapped as you would be in a cave.
@@Sheuto I know you weren't asking me, but I think deep sea scuba diving on wrecks and under ice would be comparable to cave diving as these are enclosed environments. If a diver gets lost in an enclosed environment he or she can run out of air and drown which seems to be the case in a lot of cave dives that went wrong. I think deep sea diving in open environments is inherently less dangerous than cave diving if only for the reason that it is easier to return to the surface is someone's running low on air. In open environments underwater, you don't have to worry about finding your way out of a maze-like environment like you might with caves, wrecks, or underneath ice. With that being said, even with deep scuba diving a diver may have to perform decompression stops when ascending if he/she has been underwater for enough time. The purpose of decompression stops in these cases is to allow gases in the body (such as gases in the blood) to gradually go back to surface level pressures upon returning to the surface. Without decompression stops, the gases would go back to surface levels so fast that it could hurt or possibly kill the diver. Divers are taught to factor in decompression stops when they plan out their dives underwater depending on the maximum depth they plan to go to and how long they plan to be underwater. Also, many scuba divers wear dive computers on their wrists and/or use tables to figure out their decompression stops. My point: I would argue that deep sea diving in an open water environment is inherently less dangerous than cave diving for the reasons given above.
@@dw8769 I know that. I meant that if you encounter some kind of emergency when deep diving, you can't just quickly ascend for reasons that you listed. So you are as trapped as if you were in a confined space. Well, I suppose you can inflate your jacket and hope that somehow you won't die. At very least it will be easier to retrieve your body than if you get lost in a cave.
iNezumi inflating you’re BCE to ascend quickly is that last thing you want to do. The thing is when open water diving most of the time you are with a group or several buddies. So even if one of you run out of air or equipment fails in some way you can always go to you buddy or the closest person and use there backup regulator ( if needed ) to Breath while making a slow ascend. It’s hard for me to think of any scenario in open water that would make you need to immediately get to the surface or else you will die. In caves you are alone or with 1 other person and in smaller spaces. I could think of multiple things that could go wrong. The only open water incident I could think of is some sort of animal attack. Other than that I’m not sure. When ur certified they teach you what to do in almost every situation to avoid injury if something goes wrong or fails. 🤷
See I would never do deep scuba diving or bungee jumping (hanging by my ankles is the part that scares me), but I’ve been enticed by cave diving ever since I started watching horror stories on it. I guess I enjoy horror a little too much. And I enjoy facing my fears and cave diving scares the ever living shit out of me. I can’t wait. Edit: I rewound the video and then he went thru the light scenario and when the screen went black my heart actually sunk for the first time. That’s terrifying. I’m bringing like 12 lights with me lol. Jk but also not really, I’ll take as many as allowed/can fit.
I went into a small blue hole when I was much a less experienced diver Advanced open water PADI. The Instructor diving with us had said it was ok. The cave was small no more than 30/40meters deep, not a lot of silt but enough to kick up. I am a Dive master now and after watching this video it reminded of my training and how dangerous that little trip was, not extremely dangerous but not something I will be leading my students into in the future!
Not a diver, but I love winter backwoods hiking. Seeing the same thing in every direction-been there. Trying to navigate in the dark-been there. Feeling lost-been there. All of those are panic-inducing. But I’ve never had the terror of having one hour of air left before I’m dead. Probably why cave diving’s death rate is 5x higher than backwoods hiking. Cave divers are made of strong stuff.
I'm new at scuba diving, and i can't wait to go cave diving... But i would NEVER do so without the proper traning and equipment! It will be many years of gathering experience before i even try to train in technical diving.
***** Caves are not fine without training period. Even the entrance. Silt can block the sunlight and lead to zero visibility very quickly. You need to have very good buoyancy control before even taking cavern. There is plenty to see in open water first. Enjoy it and take your time with your training.
Smmnmnm Nmnmnm No one said anything about the age of the video buddy. Just observed that it was filmed using a size 8, left, men's shoe. That is all. Good day sir.
I mean there are understandable reasons why people would go into some of these areas. That being said, my chances of being one of those people is slim to nil.
R.I.P Agnes Milowka : an experienced cave diver from Australia, she died while exploring by herself an area of a cave, she got stuck into a hole, ran out of air, and died there in 2011. She made the mistake of relying too much on her experience separating from a group of divers and going alone to explore a part of a cave. She died an agonizing death stuck in a pitch black area of a long cave in Australia.
Agnes wasn't found trapped or stuck and she was found in a calm manner, coroner reported that there were "no signs of panic or distress" She was also in Tank Cave, described by her as a "spider web gone crazy", some of the passages in Tank Cave are so narrow that it makes team diving impractical so solo exploration is often best. If you want extremes look at no-mount exploration where it's a diver and a cylinder held infront of them. Agnes was at the very front of cave exploration when she died, she knew the risks and accepted them and she died doing something that made her life worth living.
I read in an Australian paper she was stuck in a passage of the cave. "No signs of panic of distress" don't mean she happily saw death coming, smiled and died.
breadandcircus1 There was a report from a friend of hers who cleared the way for the police recovery who said that she was found in a passage of cave with no air, though she may have been trapped and ran out of gas whilst trying to extricate herself. I agree that she probably wasn't overjoyed the idea of death looming but she accepted it and let it happen rather than thrash around in a full blown panic.
I was in Sydney at OzTek about two weeks after that occurred. Agnes was supposed to give a presentation, but of course that never happened, and they left her lecture time open for people to gather in remembrance. Many don't know it, but she was also an advisor and stunt double for diving in the film Sanctum, which came out 23 days prior to her death on 27 February 2011.
So true. I still watch her wonderful, out-of-this-world videos and it seems she was like invulnerable, that she couldn't die the way she died. So beautiful, so skilled, so vibrant young woman. Have you seen her memorial, spreading of her ashes in the ocean online ? Very moving experience
Unlike other activities where you can relax, cave diving provides an "away from the world" experience by not letting you think of anything else. Either stay focused or die.
The spokesman in this video, Lamar Hires, designs and manufactures his own line of technical dive gear and rebreathers. His son, Jared, also a massively experienced Cave and Technical Instructor, died while caving. Know your limits, get trained. Buy proper equipment and never exceed the scope of your training.
It is always important to know your limitations and training have good instincts and dont let your dive buddy talk you into a dangerous situation..always plan your dive and stick with that plan
thanks for posting this video. i was trying to explain the dangers to a new diver buddy of mine about the difference between cave and CAVERN diving and he was having none of of it. i told him. "no certification or training, no diving". he did the cavern at ginnie and was satisfied about the dangers (i think the sign did it) Thanks again
Back before training was available for cave diving 8 years after joining the National Speleological Society my employer had me trained for SCUBA. By the US Army Corps of Engineers. In Oceania. I explored and sought discovery of WW2 relics. Which dovetailed nicely with cave dive training elsewhere. One slightly radioactive vessel that had battled the Brit' Royal Navy still had a few missing divers inside on my arrival. It prompted changes in certification training. That old Cert' is in older employment records. Tonight I'm now looking at a innocent looking glass bottle. Which still tells me its manufacturer in Imperial Nippon. Collected at 132 feet within the #5 hold of a bomb -blasted Maru. Where the sun now never shines. Also explored ocean-side reef caves. Moray Eels are ambush hunters. To get free, use a knife to cut the head off, and use boat tools to pry the jaw teeth apart. Before reef sharks learn blood is in the water. That job location still accepts USA applicants. Also see Kanton Island, a former USA job hire location, to find a deep wide cave entry. Use orbital photography; see straight down inside it. Yes, I was asked to go work there, by my Operations Manager; a retired FBI Special Agent.
Finally someone actually specifies what the fucking dangers are - most videos only say "Its dangerous" and leaves it at that without satisfying the curiosity that the statement awakens.
Nope sorry, Jesus walks on water and his dad probably wont let him go under it. Can you imagine the weightbelt for someone who floats on the soles of his feet.
I watching this in public and some kid told me that "the guy in the video shouldn't use a ipad for recording videos they don't have good video quality I can tell" the dad behind me was so embrassed hahaha
Think of other job/hobby training/warning videos. Remember how you laughed them off and thought they were corny as hell? Yeah... not with this guy. Holy SHIT was this video terrifying.
Holy shit... Cave diving looks like a wonderful way to mix my fear of the pitch dark, being lost in the pitch dark, tight clastrophobic spaces, and drowning. I think cave divers have just as much balls as big wave surfers and base jumpers, both of which I have done
I don't dive, but I love videos about it. Imagining all the tragedies, I never realized what might be considered a cave, or how "mundane" a dangerous cave might look... this was a great video. Thanks for posting it!
Great video Lamar, I shared this with some of my students. Cave diving has always fascinated me, I hope to become one of your students someday. Happy safe diving to all!
I've done no real cave diving but I have done many wreck dives, you "must follow the rules" my friend lost his life 10 years ago because he broke the second rule of diving "never dive alone" the girl that died in Australia diving in the cave also broke the second rule of diving, fortunately for me I've done 4000 dives and am still here🤔
The above diver has some very good info, every cave diver should watch this. I love to dive, but no underwater caves for me -- too much can go wrong, I don't care if you have 1000 dives under your belt, there's always something that can go deadly wrong! And I only go into shore caves when I know the tide is going out and I can see the light (so you don't get lost)! One rogue wave can trap you in there if the tide is coming in! I am not prone to panic, but there are too many deaths associated with cave diving, it's not for me. Even a small amount of silt kicked up can cause spatial disorientation. Going into a deep, dark cave and having an octopus or other creature jump out at me is not my idea of fun and I don't trust a line to hang onto either! I know of too many lives that have been lost cave diving. ( I don't dive under ice either.)
Good video, should be compulsory in basic dive training; the stats of dive fatalities reveal cave diving is unforgiving for the untrained and unprepared.
Recreational diving is quite safe as long as you go through a good training program. When it comes to cave, wreck penetration or decompression (tech) diving it then becomes a very high risk endeavor. Even having the best in training and a good dive plan and redundant equipment, there are still a myriad of things that can cause you to be just another statistic on the diving fatality list, a sudden strong current or change in conditions, equipment failure, a loss of consciousness at depth, a panicked dive partner or just plain inattentiveness and forgetting to do really simple. It's not just the person dying because they were doing something you love, it's about the devastation done to the victim's family, especially the mothers. There are quite few big names in diving that have ended up as fish food or in a body bag.
Thanks a lot for sharing this video. I show it to people who think they are experienced enough to go into overhead environments without proper training. I love cave diving! But I would hate to retrieve someone or loose someone due to an avoidable accident.
Watching that scene in Fantasia with the baby whale trying to find it’s mother in an underwater ice cave, made me really want to do something like that when I was a kid. After watching this, not so much.
DIVING IS FUN AND VERY SAFE. WHEN MY STUDENTS ASK ME ABOUT ADVANCING TO TECH,CAVE OR WRECK PENETRATION I ALWAYS ASK THEM ONE QUESTION; HAVE YOU EVER FORGOT YOUR MASK OR FINNS IN THE DIVE SHOPE ONCE OUT ON A DIVE. IF SO...FORGET ABOUT TECH/WRECK DIVING. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR IN THIS TYPE OF DIVING. NONE. MISTAKES HERE ARE NOT LIKE FORGETING YOUR MASK IN THE SHOP !
I've recently had a nightmare of almost drowning in the Bolton Strid, and hoo boy, it makes me want to stay the hell away from forest streams for some time :/
I haven't penetrated deep into any caves yet only into large caverns and a few relatively shallow (100ft) caves that have locked gates at certain point to prevent you from going any farther. I plan on getting cave certified soon and I have some basic equipment necessary for overhead stuff like a simple life line a few exit arrows to tie into the line and four flashlights clipped to my BC so stupid as it is I'm atleast trying to be somewhat safe, but I understand why unprepared divers go into caves, when you see the entrance it calls to you. It's the unknown that makes you peak in, look around, and before you know it your a few feet inside saying hell this isn't so bad maybe a by further. I get it. But this video speaks volumes man it really isn't something to be taken lightly and any of you open water guys that attempt cave diving I have to say it but you (and me) are kind of asking for it. Please know and stay in your limits guys from one diver to another
Even scarier than cave diving is this guy's ability to speak without moving his mouth.
Whenever I feel a little down or sad, I come here to watch this warm and cheery publication. It positively makes my heart buzz with an inexplicable sense of joy...
I have shingles right now. I feel so much better after watching it!
🤣🤣
@@baddie1shoe damn how did it go with the shingles? I had it once. Was not a fun experience.
@@dawgpost90 I thought it was gone but then it hurt for a month. I made it through :) thanks.
@@baddie1shoe wait til you have full on herpes... It's just as bad !
"If I'm scaring you a bit, good"
He’s fucking scary, not the caves...about the same amount of personality as a bag of mud....
Moogy Banna Hilstopaflingon He’s probably been hired to retrieve carcasses numerous times.
Wokstar Eugene he stared in the beginning of the video that he has gone on over a dozen dives to recover the dead bodies of drowned cave divers, he is definitely the real deal
@@moogybannahilstopaflingon6803 This isnt about personality. This is about him being direct and straight to the point with his students. Informing them about the dangers of cave diving. To always follow the rules or die.
Mr ballen does that with his stories on cave diving
I have two friends who have been diving in the vast caves here in central Florida. The preparation they go through is amazing. They have found human bones among many other artifacts. They both know divers who have died here. About 25 yrs ago, they tried to interest me in cave diving. Thankfully, my dislike of confined spaces kept me away from it.
planing is key to a safe dive
No if ands or buts about it, little lady. You're spending the night with Fred Garvin....male cave diver.
human bones and 'artifacts'? you mean stuff from dead divers or cro-magnon cave people?
My God! Can you imagine how scary that would be, to be lost in an underwater cave without lights and little air?
Yup! Been there a few times!
@@donraptor6156 Sorry I had to laugh at your comment. When you say you've been there a few times, do you actually mean you've been in an underwater cave, lost, without lights and little air?
A few times?
I'm sorry, but you'd be dead. It's not even a question of if. It's a certainty.
@@illuminaticonfirmed2240hes just that guy
I'm never taking a bath again.
Eli B that’s considered Open water.. lol. You’re fine in the tub.
Learysinsight Wakefield I’m never diving in a jacuzzi again
Hahahahahaha, if the rubber duck disappears you’ll have to call this guy to retrieve it. That’s scary...
@@learysinsight5796 But a bathtub has a drain, which is narrow and a sudden near vertical drop.
I'm protected from these scenarios by the fact that I'd have a panic attack just thinking of this shit before I even got in the water lol
We are on the beach together: me: tiki tac? me: or a xanax?
Stunning and not so Brave
@@parrotpirate9648 always a xanax. so I can die in a cave all barred out and completely forget basic shit like a working oxygen tank
This man actually just lost his son in a cave diving incident a few days ago. It’s a terrible loss. Say a prayer for his family. Rest peacefully Jared Hires.
I'm not even a diver never done it never will but this seems like good smart info I enjoyed his sensible approach safe diving to all you diving fans
You guys are the ones that make the internet a beautiful place, I thank you.
Join The Lodge I just found out my buddy died while filming a dog in the bathtub
Ah 240p we meet again
Hahahahahahaha! Hilarious!
I love it, films should look like they are films, not this weird really realistic looking definition that looks close but still our brains know the difference
Don't be afraid, be trained. I started cave diving at age 60 and it is the most fun I've had in 27 years of diving. There are miles and miles of caves that have been explored and mapped with great guidelines installed pointing the way in AND OUT. You'll see sights like nowhere else on earth, incredibly beautiful and remote. Lamar's video is to encourage you to do cave diving right. It's a great adventure. LET'S GO DIVING!
Diving, especially in caves is an activity in which, no matter your training and experience, is an activity where a lot can go wrong. Each dive has its risk of being your last, you just have to accept it but not forget it.
LOL Yeah bro I am totally going to
Well Mike, are you alive?
A week ago, I had my first twinset/drysuit dive in a nearby lake, only 5-7m deep, where the average visibility was about 1 foot. When I first saw how a bare touch of the muddy bottom suddenly reduced the visibility down to zero, I realized that in a cave, I would have definately been screwed. Now I saw this very educative video ... this all is a really serious warning. The temptation to explore, so true! Many thanks for this video.
I would sooner skydive with an old parachute than dive in a cave.
100% agree with you
I don't know what is more scary...suffocating in a pitch black cave or returning to 240p resolution in 2020...
I just love how mega-chill the presenter is
I'm pretty cool with just watching the vids and looking at the pics of cave diving....excellent intro safety video though.
Thank you. "If you cannot be the example, be the warning."
cave diving with a snorkel; the defenition of an optimist
Mr. Stoic talked me out of diving all together
I think the danger is in being enticed by a strange-looking passage and you break your plan "just a little" to check it out and that's where you get stuck and die. These deaths remind me of stories in mythology.
He's Lamar Hires, owner of Dive Rite (diving equipment). He's one of Florida's most experienced cave divers. Open water diving is one thing and tech diving is another. You'd be surprised how many open water divers are tempted to venture inside of a cave entrance. Unfortunately that's all it takes for a fatality to occur, and most cave related fatalities have been from untrained OW divers. Diving is a magical activity; Just stay within your training, experience, and comfort level. Happy, safe diving
He'd make a good ventriloquist. He seems to be able to talk without moving his mouth.
Aaaaand there's another hobby I will never take up in my entire life.
One of the few things too extreme for me
Amusement parks? Too easy
Bungee jumping? Sure
Deep scuba diving? Ok
sky diving? Cool
Cave diving? nope
Isn't deep scuba diving comparable though? You can't ascend too quickly so if something goes wrong you are pretty much as trapped as you would be in a cave.
@@Sheuto I know you weren't asking me, but I think deep sea scuba diving on wrecks and under ice would be comparable to cave diving as these are enclosed environments. If a diver gets lost in an enclosed environment he or she can run out of air and drown which seems to be the case in a lot of cave dives that went wrong. I think deep sea diving in open environments is inherently less dangerous than cave diving if only for the reason that it is easier to return to the surface is someone's running low on air. In open environments underwater, you don't have to worry about finding your way out of a maze-like environment like you might with caves, wrecks, or underneath ice.
With that being said, even with deep scuba diving a diver may have to perform decompression stops when ascending if he/she has been underwater for enough time. The purpose of decompression stops in these cases is to allow gases in the body (such as gases in the blood) to gradually go back to surface level pressures upon returning to the surface. Without decompression stops, the gases would go back to surface levels so fast that it could hurt or possibly kill the diver.
Divers are taught to factor in decompression stops when they plan out their dives underwater depending on the maximum depth they plan to go to and how long they plan to be underwater. Also, many scuba divers wear dive computers on their wrists and/or use tables to figure out their decompression stops.
My point: I would argue that deep sea diving in an open water environment is inherently less dangerous than cave diving for the reasons given above.
@@dw8769 I know that. I meant that if you encounter some kind of emergency when deep diving, you can't just quickly ascend for reasons that you listed. So you are as trapped as if you were in a confined space.
Well, I suppose you can inflate your jacket and hope that somehow you won't die. At very least it will be easier to retrieve your body than if you get lost in a cave.
iNezumi inflating you’re BCE to ascend quickly is that last thing you want to do. The thing is when open water diving most of the time you are with a group or several buddies. So even if one of you run out of air or equipment fails in some way you can always go to you buddy or the closest person and use there backup regulator ( if needed ) to Breath while making a slow ascend. It’s hard for me to think of any scenario in open water that would make you need to immediately get to the surface or else you will die. In caves you are alone or with 1 other person and in smaller spaces. I could think of multiple things that could go wrong. The only open water incident I could think of is some sort of animal attack. Other than that I’m not sure. When ur certified they teach you what to do in almost every situation to avoid injury if something goes wrong or fails. 🤷
See I would never do deep scuba diving or bungee jumping (hanging by my ankles is the part that scares me), but I’ve been enticed by cave diving ever since I started watching horror stories on it. I guess I enjoy horror a little too much. And I enjoy facing my fears and cave diving scares the ever living shit out of me. I can’t wait.
Edit: I rewound the video and then he went thru the light scenario and when the screen went black my heart actually sunk for the first time. That’s terrifying. I’m bringing like 12 lights with me lol. Jk but also not really, I’ll take as many as allowed/can fit.
I went into a small blue hole when I was much a less experienced diver Advanced open water PADI. The Instructor diving with us had said it was ok. The cave was small no more than 30/40meters deep, not a lot of silt but enough to kick up. I am a Dive master now and after watching this video it reminded of my training and how dangerous that little trip was, not extremely dangerous but not something I will be leading my students into in the future!
bill n teds excellent cave adventure
Not a diver, but I love winter backwoods hiking. Seeing the same thing in every direction-been there. Trying to navigate in the dark-been there. Feeling lost-been there. All of those are panic-inducing. But I’ve never had the terror of having one hour of air left before I’m dead. Probably why cave diving’s death rate is 5x higher than backwoods hiking. Cave divers are made of strong stuff.
I'm new at scuba diving, and i can't wait to go cave diving... But i would NEVER do so without the proper traning and equipment! It will be many years of gathering experience before i even try to train in technical diving.
***** Caves are not fine without training period. Even the entrance. Silt can block the sunlight and lead to zero visibility very quickly. You need to have very good buoyancy control before even taking cavern. There is plenty to see in open water first. Enjoy it and take your time with your training.
Same. I’m thinking it’ll take 10-20 years maybe? Idk but I am eagerly waiting haha.
Cave divings easy as fuck, everyone should try it once before they die
Please don't cave die
I'll stay here on the surface breathing air the normal way, thanks.
Filmed using a men's shoe.
At first they tried a potato, but the shoe worked better!
So they upgraded? Well this changes everything.
Smmnmnm Nmnmnm No one said anything about the age of the video buddy. Just observed that it was filmed using a size 8, left, men's shoe. That is all. Good day sir.
Risking your life to see mud, underwater, in the dark. I see the appeal
cat thornberg LOL! Love your sense of humour!
I mean there are understandable reasons why people would go into some of these areas.
That being said, my chances of being one of those people is slim to nil.
Tyrant you sack of wine!
It’s because there is nothing like what it looks like in a cave any were else
#JustWhitePeopleThings
R.I.P Agnes Milowka : an experienced cave diver from Australia, she died while exploring by herself an area of a cave, she got stuck into a hole, ran out of air, and died there in 2011. She made the mistake of relying too much on her experience separating from a group of divers and going alone to explore a part of a cave. She died an agonizing death stuck in a pitch black area of a long cave in Australia.
Agnes wasn't found trapped or stuck and she was found in a calm manner, coroner reported that there were "no signs of panic or distress"
She was also in Tank Cave, described by her as a "spider web gone crazy", some of the passages in Tank Cave are so narrow that it makes team diving impractical so solo exploration is often best. If you want extremes look at no-mount exploration where it's a diver and a cylinder held infront of them.
Agnes was at the very front of cave exploration when she died, she knew the risks and accepted them and she died doing something that made her life worth living.
I read in an Australian paper she was stuck in a passage of the cave. "No signs of panic of distress" don't mean she happily saw death coming, smiled and died.
breadandcircus1 There was a report from a friend of hers who cleared the way for the police recovery who said that she was found in a passage of cave with no air, though she may have been trapped and ran out of gas whilst trying to extricate herself.
I agree that she probably wasn't overjoyed the idea of death looming but she accepted it and let it happen rather than thrash around in a full blown panic.
I was in Sydney at OzTek about two weeks after that occurred. Agnes was supposed to give a presentation, but of course that never happened, and they left her lecture time open for people to gather in remembrance.
Many don't know it, but she was also an advisor and stunt double for diving in the film Sanctum, which came out 23 days prior to her death on 27 February 2011.
So true. I still watch her wonderful, out-of-this-world videos and it seems she was like invulnerable, that she couldn't die the way she died. So beautiful, so skilled, so vibrant young woman. Have you seen her memorial, spreading of her ashes in the ocean online ? Very moving experience
Unlike other activities where you can relax, cave diving provides an "away from the world" experience by not letting you think of anything else. Either stay focused or die.
The spokesman in this video, Lamar Hires, designs and manufactures his own line of technical dive gear and rebreathers. His son, Jared, also a massively experienced Cave and Technical Instructor, died while caving. Know your limits, get trained. Buy proper equipment and never exceed the scope of your training.
It is always important to know your limitations and training have good instincts and dont let your dive buddy talk you into a dangerous situation..always plan your dive and stick with that plan
Buddies fighting over air... dying in a dark underwater cave, that part of the video made me feel claustrophobic and terrified sitting in my chair.
thanks for posting this video. i was trying to explain the dangers to a new diver buddy of mine about the difference between cave and CAVERN diving and he was having none of of it. i told him. "no certification or training, no diving". he did the cavern at ginnie and was satisfied about the dangers (i think the sign did it) Thanks again
He's still alive and more informed 10 years later I hope?
there's no telling how many lives you saved with this video....and the misery of loss from families and loved ones. good job, very professional.
I'm writing a cave diving scenario within a novel and I am packing it with as much safety info as I can, thanks. NSS 37785
Back before training was available for cave diving
8 years after joining the National Speleological
Society my employer had me trained for SCUBA.
By the US Army Corps of Engineers. In Oceania.
I explored and sought discovery of WW2 relics.
Which dovetailed nicely with cave dive training
elsewhere. One slightly radioactive vessel that
had battled the Brit' Royal Navy still had a few
missing divers inside on my arrival. It prompted
changes in certification training. That old Cert' is
in older employment records. Tonight I'm now
looking at a innocent looking glass bottle. Which
still tells me its manufacturer in Imperial Nippon.
Collected at 132 feet within the #5 hold of a bomb
-blasted Maru. Where the sun now never shines.
Also explored ocean-side reef caves. Moray Eels
are ambush hunters. To get free, use a knife to
cut the head off, and use boat tools to pry the
jaw teeth apart. Before reef sharks learn blood
is in the water. That job location still accepts
USA applicants. Also see Kanton Island, a
former USA job hire location, to find a deep
wide cave entry. Use orbital photography; see
straight down inside it. Yes, I was asked to go
work there, by my Operations Manager; a retired
FBI Special Agent.
Finally someone actually specifies what the fucking dangers are - most videos only say "Its dangerous" and leaves it at that without satisfying the curiosity that the statement awakens.
Jesus Christ how horrifying
Nope sorry, Jesus walks on water and his dad probably wont let him go under it. Can you imagine the weightbelt for someone who floats on the soles of his feet.
Steve Carter It's over 9,000!
i have no intention of ever going diving let alone cave diving. How the hell did I end up on this video.
PASS. NOPE. NO. NEGATIVE. ABSOLUTELY NOT. FUCK THIS SHIT.
"If cave diving interests you..." HELL NO
IN FACT I AIN'T GOING IN A CAVE EVEN ABOVE GROUND
I AIN'T GOING INTO MY BASEMENT
🤭
holy fuck that shit is spooky
+Genesis Maldonado you are hot
+Cesar Rodriguez you are desperate
This PSA was so successful, I am never cave diving! Highly recommended!
Josh told me to watch this video. It did not disappoint.
I watching this in public and some kid told me that "the guy in the video shouldn't use a ipad for recording videos they don't have good video quality I can tell"
the dad behind me was so embrassed hahaha
Think of other job/hobby training/warning videos. Remember how you laughed them off and thought they were corny as hell? Yeah... not with this guy. Holy SHIT was this video terrifying.
Holy shit... Cave diving looks like a wonderful way to mix my fear of the pitch dark, being lost in the pitch dark, tight clastrophobic spaces, and drowning. I think cave divers have just as much balls as big wave surfers and base jumpers, both of which I have done
big wave surfing and especially base jumping is not nearly as dangerous as cave diving.
I don't dive, but I love videos about it. Imagining all the tragedies, I never realized what might be considered a cave, or how "mundane" a dangerous cave might look... this was a great video. Thanks for posting it!
Great video Lamar, I shared this with some of my students. Cave diving has always fascinated me, I hope to become one of your students someday. Happy safe diving to all!
RIP to his son Jarred, that just passed away while cave diving in puru due to a siezuer.
Oh man. Awful.
For a little while, I thought he was telepathically communicating this message. Then I realized. Oh wow his lips are indeed moving.
This is a great video and one that I hope every diver gets a chance to see before being tempted to enter a cave without training. Thanks!
Diving has got to be one of the most incredible and out right fun sports there is, I've never had a dive I didn't enjoy.
I've done no real cave diving but I have done many wreck dives, you "must follow the rules" my friend lost his life 10 years ago because he broke the second rule of diving "never dive alone" the girl that died in Australia diving in the cave also broke the second rule of diving, fortunately for me I've done 4000 dives and am still here🤔
Keep following the rules.
Not only is he a premium diver but also the only white dude in history named Lamar’
He's the ron Swanson of cave diving
The above diver has some very good info, every cave diver should watch this. I love to dive, but no underwater caves for me -- too much can go wrong, I don't care if you have 1000 dives under your belt, there's always something that can go deadly wrong! And I only go into shore caves when I know the tide is going out and I can see the light (so you don't get lost)! One rogue wave can trap you in there if the tide is coming in! I am not prone to panic, but there are too many deaths associated with cave diving, it's not for me. Even a small amount of silt kicked up can cause spatial disorientation. Going into a deep, dark cave and having an octopus or other creature jump out at me is not my idea of fun and I don't trust a line to hang onto either! I know of too many lives that have been lost cave diving. ( I don't dive under ice either.)
Lamar !!! How awesome this video is. I love finding these older videos
Why does the narrator look like a storm trooper
He was a Star Wars extra and they let him keep the uniform 🤣
That would just kick in the heavy breathing and paranoia instantly.
Dang it’s good to see Andrew Santino finally did something productive with his life
Someone show andrew this lol
as a free diver myself would not try this discipline , much respect to this guys!
Excellent video...the message can't be any more clearer than that
Good video, should be compulsory in basic dive training; the stats of dive fatalities reveal cave diving is unforgiving for the untrained and unprepared.
i wish this had a better resolution. its the best video that showcases how important it is not to go in an underwater cave without training
it is a 30 year old vhs tape someone put on youtube.
@@toomanyaccounts well done. do you want a medal?
Recreational diving is quite safe as long as you go through a good training program. When it comes to cave, wreck penetration or decompression (tech) diving it then becomes a very high risk endeavor. Even having the best in training and a good dive plan and redundant equipment, there are still a myriad of things that can cause you to be just another statistic on the diving fatality list, a sudden strong current or change in conditions, equipment failure, a loss of consciousness at depth, a panicked dive partner or just plain inattentiveness and forgetting to do really simple.
It's not just the person dying because they were doing something you love, it's about the devastation done to the victim's family, especially the mothers.
There are quite few big names in diving that have ended up as fish food or in a body bag.
Well that sounds like a lovely pastime
Plan the dive, dive the plan.
Well said..
+Steph Grace wow...that's deep man very deep you must be some sort of genius or something?
Some people just arent made for cave diving.
*ME RAISES HAND*
Ill drive the boats fellas
Even when properly trained it's still no guarantee.
"Don't Win A Darwin Award - think about what you're doing!" basically.
If i'm scaring you good ??? i won't feckin sleep for a week.
JIN KAZAMA hahaha...funny as fook
Thanks a lot for sharing this video.
I show it to people who think they are experienced enough to go into overhead environments without proper training.
I love cave diving! But I would hate to retrieve someone or loose someone due to an avoidable accident.
Watching that scene in Fantasia with the baby whale trying to find it’s mother in an underwater ice cave, made me really want to do something like that when I was a kid. After watching this, not so much.
Bill and Fred’s excellent adventure
These fresh water caves are always so dark and never ending!
DIVING IS FUN AND VERY SAFE. WHEN MY STUDENTS ASK ME ABOUT ADVANCING TO TECH,CAVE OR WRECK PENETRATION I ALWAYS ASK THEM ONE QUESTION; HAVE YOU EVER FORGOT YOUR MASK OR FINNS IN THE DIVE SHOPE ONCE OUT ON A DIVE. IF SO...FORGET ABOUT TECH/WRECK DIVING. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR IN THIS TYPE OF DIVING. NONE. MISTAKES HERE ARE NOT LIKE FORGETING YOUR MASK IN THE SHOP !
I had my first nightmare in a long time of me being in this exact situation and watching this makes me NOPE NOPE NOPE right on out.
I've recently had a nightmare of almost drowning in the Bolton Strid, and hoo boy, it makes me want to stay the hell away from forest streams for some time :/
Deceptively?
Excellent message. Thanks for your well presented warnings, cautions and information.
I haven't penetrated deep into any caves yet only into large caverns and a few relatively shallow (100ft) caves that have locked gates at certain point to prevent you from going any farther. I plan on getting cave certified soon and I have some basic equipment necessary for overhead stuff like a simple life line a few exit arrows to tie into the line and four flashlights clipped to my BC so stupid as it is I'm atleast trying to be somewhat safe, but I understand why unprepared divers go into caves, when you see the entrance it calls to you. It's the unknown that makes you peak in, look around, and before you know it your a few feet inside saying hell this isn't so bad maybe a by further. I get it. But this video speaks volumes man it really isn't something to be taken lightly and any of you open water guys that attempt cave diving I have to say it but you (and me) are kind of asking for it. Please know and stay in your limits guys from one diver to another
I'll just stay home
Thank you so much for this video that can save lives
Its kind of like being on the moon, it's great as long as nothing goes wrong
Saturation divers are literally two days further away from the outside world than astronauts on the moon.
You won't fool me skeletons! I'm going for your pirate gold!
Loving the transitions
Thanks. Excellent and informative vid! Good to know the hazards and where people go wrong.
Even the cieling can be hazardous, as debris can be disturbed by bubbles floating up and reduce visibility.
Excellent . Being shown the wrong way of doing it can be just as instructive, if not more so, as being shown the right way.
Fantastic Video of Cave Diving!!!
blunt and to the point.
Caves SHOULD scare you.
Diving is not always a PADI video.
Excellent video Lamar...see you in Williston FLorida..the caves are calling..
There is absolutely nothing to see in Florida caves! PERIOD! Stay out!
Amazing video, thanks for sharing.
We show this video to students at the end of their class at Fun Time Scuba!
the video quality, and lack of shadows on this guys suit makes him look like an NPC from skyrim... but good video and thank you for sharing!
EVERY wouldbe cave diver should watch this and learn. Not that I would even put my head underwater or swim in any of these pools.
"Did I scare you?"
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Yeah a bit...
Excellent advice...shame it's had to come at such a cost to others...nothing replaces training...