@@TunaonToastwithStryker I came here for fat Mike, but I'm definitely gonna check out your whole catalog now. You're really good at this! I'd love to see you interview Laura Jane Grace from Against Me. She's hella iconic and underrated. And most interviews I see with her are so focused on her being trans that they rarely get to anything interesting. Which is a huge disservice to her and her music. I think you could do a good one tho.:-) pls consider it.
Never get enough of fatty interviews. I've been a monster fan of nofx and fat mike since freshman year in high school. And still can't wait for them to put out new music.
Second time listening to this episode. Gonna miss NOFX😢❤. SO MANY GOOD TIMES, MEMORIES AND GREAT SHOWS!!! Thanks for everything, and great interview Stryker:)
I turned 40 on January 6th. I heard Nofx the first time in 1991. Ribbed. Flat out still my favorite album by them and in my 10 fav all time albums as well. Just the Flu, Green Corn, Moron Bros, etc etc so many great songs and the playing is so fast and tight and the guitar solos are blistering. Fat Mike, Eric, Smelly, and all the other guitarists they've had thru the years- man, I still love this band, and am truly happy all of them are alive in 2022 thru monster addictions and a live fast die young attitude. I've survived 21 years of an i.v. heroin and fentynl and cocaine addiction so I feel pretty grateful to be here too. Hopefully get a band going again this year. It's not to late ever when you love what you do the music can still be good- respect strycker
Fat Mike definitely did catch lightening in a bottle with the late 90s-early 2000s FatWreck bands! All those bands he mentioned, Lagwagon, Strung Out, Propagandhi, No Use...., Good Riddance, shaped my entire musical world and they still influence me to this day! Those bands in that era occupy a large portion of my all-time favorite records to this day. I still listen to that shit on a regular basis!
one of my closest friends introduced me to NOFX around 1996 we loved skateboarding to it and he was probly the biggest NOFX fan I have ever met in my life he fucken loved them and loved Fat Mike he passed away in a car accident about 10 yrs ago Rest in Peace John Paul Costilla listening to this for you my brother
Rest in peace to your good friend John , he had amazing taste in music. must have been a rad guy, he will live on in your memories for life just as my late friend who passed in 2017 does with me. 🤝🏼
I've been podcasting for a decade, punkin since the 80's, and a nofx fan since I was making memories. This was the best podcast I've ever heard/seen. Eating sketti at 4am and half drunk. Life is good, rent is due.
You’re a fucking gem Stryker. Thanks for making this podcast and doing your own thing. Whatever you do to keep that smile and enthusiasm, keep it up. It’s contagious my dude. This interview is great
Maybe he was flattered , id be flattered to have a kinda famous guy shout me out. As a shout out generally means """"a bit of props to my pal""" but as fat mike.... it might be funny to see if he cringed or smiled or said...f him. I get it i guess! No disrespect meant to you at alll!
They've been bandmates in Me First & The Gimmie Gimmes for quite a while. Plus Chris was in No Use For A Name for years on Fat Wreck Chords. They're buds but it'd still be cool to find his reaction for the HOF.
Great interview. First punk tape I had my mom buy me was punk in drublic. Met mike at a no use for a name show in San Francisco. He gave me $20. Nothing better than when you meet your idol and he’s a cool guy
Mike is always entertaining, and his new podcast is awesome! I've known the band since '84, and when they had no where to play back then because Erik's dad was working in the shop where No-Fx practiced in La Cresenta (above Sunland/Tujunga where I lived), they played in my garage. I called it punk rock ditch day lol! Anyway; half way through their set our big heavy ass garage door came off one hinge and fell on top of Mike's head and shoulder, and he held it up with his head and shoulder, but kept jamming through the song Ant Attack until I was able to push the cotter-pin back into the hinge,, he was so fucking punk! And my brothers friend fought with one of Mike's friends, that was not punk, and made me look bad and made me so mad. I've been a big supporter ever since, and I'm very happy that they are all happy and doing well. That was a fun podcast, well done Stryker! 👏🏻😃🎉
I lived in Tijunga / Sunland area as a kid in early 80's. I was friends with actor Paul Walker then. And we both played on same Little League teams, for two or three years. That area has gotten worse I heard? Cheers!
What a great interview. Fat Mike is an absolute treasure. And as someone who lives in Vegas and was at the PRB show that got NOFX kicked out of town , I'm pleasantly surprised to here the punk museum will be here.
This was absolutely amazing!!!!! Thank you. It was awesome to see that Fat Mike was actually enjoying the entire interview. Also loved the advice he game on success and being happy!!!’
this is an amazing interview. love the chemistry between you both. i hardly ever listen to podcasts and interviews especially ones this long. usually just clips / segments but like i said this is an amazing one. all the way through
Awesome! Would've loved to hear more about the Fishbone/NOFX tour as well as more details regarding Fat Mike producing new music from Fishbone... Fun stuff!
The NOFX story and philosophy is great. It makes sense - they were/are big but not Green Day big. Yet have lived an amazing crazy life probably not missing that much compared to “bigger” bands. Success is subjective :)
Mike is one of the very few that just keeps getting more punk rock the older he gets. Those shoes, man he rocks them with confidence, makes clown shoes look cool as hell, lol
NoFX was my teenages year. My first loves, first fails. Thats why this guy is a hero to me. Is a little crazy, but all genius are little crazys. Greetings from Hualpén, Chile. 🇨🇱
I am from Canada. Try and get Propagandhi on! If any band changed the punk scene and the dynamics of, evolving as artist and being true to the culture of music, its got to be them. From Winnipeg Manitoba Canada one of the biggest and unstoppable bands/voices to every come out! Another good one and leaders of the early hardcore scene and honestly if it was not for them, punk bands would not tour, is DOA! (vancouver canada) The Canadians had a huge impact on the Cali scene and world wide! I dig your show! Cheers!
Props to the host for rolling with whatever Mike pivoted to. Never lost his cool, always maintained his enthusiasm and curiosity. I reiterate Mike is a genius, but I also believe he has a borderline personality disorder. Nothing against his views or opions, but as the host perfectly pointed, "or is it how you voice your opinion?"- Cofidence and conviction are important. Humility is even an more important.
Fat Mike is my spirit animal and has played a vital part in me creating a solo career. Which has lead to launching a whole new genre of music. K!D Skr!bbleZ or bust.
hahah your show is just getting better and better! I love the way mike said Straikaaaa, sorry no offense but it is just hilarious that mike said that thou. so I guess your next guess would be Mark Hoppus now.
I've never seen your channel, I have no idea who you are, but my 1st impression is you would be the furthest thing from a NOFX fan as possible. However, you seem like a chill guy and you were able to get Fat Mike on your show so you're doing something right! Good shit
I heard wbcn in Boston and heard the mighty mighty bosstones and offspring from there I found gd and blink. Because of this I found my first warped tour and whoosh my world opened up. I bought my first nofx reel big fish and Less Than Jake album. LTJ took my top of the list and never left lol. I have an 8 year old daughter who rocks out with me while everyone else goes country.
This was such an amazing interview. You're so good at interviewing people. It's a skill to keep Mike on track and focused like this. It's like trying to train a wild animal haha
Warped tour WAS awesome back when nofx played at lassale park. In buffalo ny. With snapcase and rancid ,bad religion, etc fishbone..bodycount suicidal tendencies , lunachicks h20 ...but the grass was ruined for 1 season.... so that venue ended. Point being it wasnt policed like a huge metal show. It was chill as fk! M and my cousin proved it was safe to jump into lake Erie at the spot. So we all jumped into lake erie ! with the dudes from h20 and the lunachicks. the main stage was backed up to the lake, and a street skate spot set up back there..it was my most memorable warped ! .
I love how Fat Mike story of being on Howard Stern is always different. And I love it because he was never on Howard Stern, but he States it with such confidence, so you believe
I can imagine that for "major" society Mike can be just some crazy weird old punk, but the reality is that many of us should take example from his hard work and creativity. He achieved a lot. And some of the things he said in this podcast make great sense and are very inspirational.
man this was such an amazing podcast. Loved it and had a good laugh. But most importantly: fat mike giving props to sum 41 for being great guys just made my day I'd love to see any member of sum 41 on the show. Maybe cone because he gives great interviews
Codependents sounds so dope. The doc is such a damn legend unreal he's with fatty One last comment ..... HOW DOES THIS GUY INLY HAVE UNDER 5K SUBS PLEASE support INDEPENDENT men and woman share to Facebook IG etc etc shout him out on yer TH-cam let's help homies channel grow
So much love for you! thank you! yes, its a slow build to get the word out but my appreciation level for the views so far is massive! FYI - I really need a sponsor!
There’s really very few punk bands like them that stayed great and continued to put out quality music, I love the last few albums as much as the old shit
These shows just get better and better!
Thank you so much!
@@TunaonToastwithStryker next guest has to be Mark Hoppus
@@TunaonToastwithStryker I came here for fat Mike, but I'm definitely gonna check out your whole catalog now.
You're really good at this!
I'd love to see you interview Laura Jane Grace from Against Me.
She's hella iconic and underrated.
And most interviews I see with her are so focused on her being trans that they rarely get to anything interesting. Which is a huge disservice to her and her music.
I think you could do a good one tho.:-) pls consider it.
Never get enough of fatty interviews. I've been a monster fan of nofx and fat mike since freshman year in high school. And still can't wait for them to put out new music.
its funny cos i wanna hear it but often dont return to it
Second time listening to this episode. Gonna miss NOFX😢❤. SO MANY GOOD TIMES, MEMORIES AND GREAT SHOWS!!! Thanks for everything, and great interview Stryker:)
I turned 40 on January 6th. I heard Nofx the first time in 1991. Ribbed. Flat out still my favorite album by them and in my 10 fav all time albums as well. Just the Flu, Green Corn, Moron Bros, etc etc so many great songs and the playing is so fast and tight and the guitar solos are blistering. Fat Mike, Eric, Smelly, and all the other guitarists they've had thru the years- man, I still love this band, and am truly happy all of them are alive in 2022 thru monster addictions and a live fast die young attitude. I've survived 21 years of an i.v. heroin and fentynl and cocaine addiction so I feel pretty grateful to be here too. Hopefully get a band going again this year. It's not to late ever when you love what you do the music can still be good- respect strycker
Fat Mike definitely did catch lightening in a bottle with the late 90s-early 2000s FatWreck bands! All those bands he mentioned, Lagwagon, Strung Out, Propagandhi, No Use...., Good Riddance, shaped my entire musical world and they still influence me to this day! Those bands in that era occupy a large portion of my all-time favorite records to this day. I still listen to that shit on a regular basis!
one of my closest friends introduced me to NOFX around 1996 we loved skateboarding to it and he was probly the biggest NOFX fan I have ever met in my life he fucken loved them and loved Fat Mike he passed away in a car accident about 10 yrs ago Rest in Peace John Paul Costilla listening to this for you my brother
Rest in peace to your good friend John , he had amazing taste in music. must have been a rad guy, he will live on in your memories for life just as my late friend who passed in 2017 does with me. 🤝🏼
@@Curtis.Carpenter I appreciate it man, thank you
sending you love Pedro! RIP John
@@TunaonToastwithStryker thanks alot! same to u!
I've been podcasting for a decade, punkin since the 80's, and a nofx fan since I was making memories. This was the best podcast I've ever heard/seen. Eating sketti at 4am and half drunk. Life is good, rent is due.
rocky..thank you so much!!
You’re a fucking gem Stryker. Thanks for making this podcast and doing your own thing. Whatever you do to keep that smile and enthusiasm, keep it up. It’s contagious my dude. This interview is great
Warped tour was AWESOME!! ALL PUNK, PROPER VIBE!!
Would have liked to hear Mikes response to Chis Shifflett (Foo Fighters)giving him a shout out during his Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction speech
on the next one!
Maybe he was flattered , id be flattered to have a kinda famous guy shout me out. As a shout out generally means """"a bit of props to my pal""" but as fat mike.... it might be funny to see if he cringed or smiled or said...f him. I get it i guess! No disrespect meant to you at alll!
They've been bandmates in Me First & The Gimmie Gimmes for quite a while. Plus Chris was in No Use For A Name for years on Fat Wreck Chords. They're buds but it'd still be cool to find his reaction for the HOF.
Jake Jackson is ONLY famous bc of his shredding on 'Making Friends'
Fat mike would probably act like he doesn’t give a shit but deep down we know that… he wouldn’t give a shit 😂
1:18:30 big fans of Fat Mike & NOFX..Greeting from Indonesia 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Great interview. First punk tape I had my mom buy me was punk in drublic. Met mike at a no use for a name show in San Francisco. He gave me $20. Nothing better than when you meet your idol and he’s a cool guy
Mike is always entertaining, and his new podcast is awesome!
I've known the band since '84, and when they had no where to play back then because Erik's dad was working in the shop where No-Fx practiced in La Cresenta (above Sunland/Tujunga where I lived), they played in my garage. I called it punk rock ditch day lol! Anyway; half way through their set our big heavy ass garage door came off one hinge and fell on top of Mike's head and shoulder, and he held it up with his head and shoulder, but kept jamming through the song Ant Attack until I was able to push the cotter-pin back into the hinge,, he was so fucking punk! And my brothers friend fought with one of Mike's friends, that was not punk, and made me look bad and made me so mad. I've been a big supporter ever since, and I'm very happy that they are all happy and doing well. That was a fun podcast, well done Stryker! 👏🏻😃🎉
Man. Loved the trip down memory lane. Glad u r still here to tell the story. What bands have u or are u in? I'm guessing u play.....
I lived in Tijunga / Sunland area as a kid in early 80's. I was friends with actor Paul Walker then. And we both played on same Little League teams, for two or three years. That area has gotten worse I heard? Cheers!
Punk Rock Museum!!! So glad you asked about it!!!
Apparently Billie joe is still mad About the kidnapping 😂
What a great interview. Fat Mike is an absolute treasure. And as someone who lives in Vegas and was at the PRB show that got NOFX kicked out of town , I'm pleasantly surprised to here the punk museum will be here.
This was absolutely amazing!!!!! Thank you. It was awesome to see that Fat Mike was actually enjoying the entire interview. Also loved the advice he game on success and being happy!!!’
whats up Jimmy! thank you for watching!
Mike just keeps on giving and giving .....what a legend
Pretty stoked about the punk rock museum in las vegas.
same!
Bummed to hear Billie joe wasn’t about it
He says at the end podcast. So many fans from indonesia. I'm a huge fan of Fat Mike and NOFX. Greeting from Indonesia 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
From playing Burnout with my brothers, to listening to Tuna on Toast together. Thanks for everything Stryker!
Aiden, thank you for the awesome message!!!
Bring Mike back on again (ASAP!).
This was gold.
thank you for watching! would love to have him back, so many more tidbits I wanted to get to!
Prop is from my hometown portage la Prairie. They're epic. My bros will go wild hearing them honored so well!
This was my favorite episode so far, you guys were perfect together. Love it
Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
Holy sh** this show is awesome!! 🤘🏻
Thanks from Italy...
... where everything is stuck or broken down 😉
Dope interview! Miss hanging out with you and at Hollywood and Highland Stryker! Much love
this is an amazing interview. love the chemistry between you both. i hardly ever listen to podcasts and interviews especially ones this long. usually just clips / segments but like i said this is an amazing one. all the way through
Jesus what a fabulous interview from start to finish, also penultimate is what i think you were going for there.
thank you!!
Good man , good music ,fat mike awesome! Come to Bali , Indonesia mike ❤🙏🏻🇲🇨
Awesome! Would've loved to hear more about the Fishbone/NOFX tour as well as more details regarding Fat Mike producing new music from Fishbone... Fun stuff!
The NOFX story and philosophy is great. It makes sense - they were/are big but not Green Day big. Yet have lived an amazing crazy life probably not missing that much compared to “bigger” bands. Success is subjective :)
Mike is one of the very few that just keeps getting more punk rock the older he gets. Those shoes, man he rocks them with confidence, makes clown shoes look cool as hell, lol
I'm looking online at clown shoes right now. Would love to see clown shoes become a trend
1:14:00 new nofx can’t wait for this album.
Wish they would’ve talked about home street home more but whateva
Great interview, love Mike, instant subscribe. Also how the actual f**k are there only 8k subscribers?!
NoFX was my teenages year. My first loves, first fails. Thats why this guy is a hero to me. Is a little crazy, but all genius are little crazys.
Greetings from Hualpén, Chile. 🇨🇱
I am from Canada. Try and get Propagandhi on! If any band changed the punk scene and the dynamics of, evolving as artist and being true to the culture of music, its got to be them. From Winnipeg Manitoba Canada one of the biggest and unstoppable bands/voices to every come out! Another good one and leaders of the early hardcore scene and honestly if it was not for them, punk bands would not tour, is DOA! (vancouver canada) The Canadians had a huge impact on the Cali scene and world wide! I dig your show! Cheers!
They're from Portage bro. Only good thing we got
@@ottomattix86 you are correct. Chris and Jord...are from portage.
@@Ebony9762 lmao thanks otherwise all we're left with is a giant coke can
@@ottomattix86 I know! Haha! I am from winnipeg originally
Awesome love Fat Mike And NOFX is my favorite band when it comes to punk great interview
What a great interview!
🤘🏽🤘🏽
Props to the host for rolling with whatever Mike pivoted to. Never lost his cool, always maintained his enthusiasm and curiosity. I reiterate Mike is a genius, but I also believe he has a borderline personality disorder. Nothing against his views or opions, but as the host perfectly pointed, "or is it how you voice your opinion?"- Cofidence and conviction are important. Humility is even an more important.
thank you, Patrick....really appreciate it man!
Fat Mike is a legend. Loved this interview.
Fat Mike owes me 20€. They were too wasted to play in Madrid. Just spent 15 minutes complaining there was too much vodka in his drink and left.
Lend me an ear by The D.O.C. Is a classic and a must listen!!!
I had no idea Fat Mike was this likable and fun. It has completely changed my silly preconceived notions of him.
This is fucking incredible haha, never heard of this podcast but fat mike is one of my punk heroes. Will definitely be checking out more episodes now.
thank you so much! please spread there word!
Im so glad I found your channel! I remember listening to loveline years ago and always loved your commentary
thank you so much!
That's why he sounded familiar all this time. Thanks 👍
Man, to have been in that room, with such a legend.
its very surreal! thanks for watching!
So happy the museum is open! ☺️
Fat Mike is my spirit animal and has played a vital part in me creating a solo career. Which has lead to launching a whole new genre of music. K!D Skr!bbleZ or bust.
hahah your show is just getting better and better! I love the way mike said Straikaaaa, sorry no offense but it is just hilarious that mike said that thou.
so I guess your next guess would be Mark Hoppus now.
What an absolute icon
he's amazing!
I've never seen your channel, I have no idea who you are, but my 1st impression is you would be the furthest thing from a NOFX fan as possible. However, you seem like a chill guy and you were able to get Fat Mike on your show so you're doing something right! Good shit
I heard wbcn in Boston and heard the mighty mighty bosstones and offspring from there I found gd and blink. Because of this I found my first warped tour and whoosh my world opened up. I bought my first nofx reel big fish and Less Than Jake album. LTJ took my top of the list and never left lol. I have an 8 year old daughter who rocks out with me while everyone else goes country.
Great interview. So entertaining. “Xzibit’s going to be there?” Cracked me up!
Punks most interesting maniac. Big love for Mike.
This is amazing. Great int bro.... Fatty is the reason I got into punk. Look forward to the next guest
Thank you so much!
Can we get Matt Skiba from Alkaline Trio on here soon
working on it!
What about any Green Day member ?
What about Matt Skiba from Blink 182?
Fatty relapsed and is drinking again!!!?? So proud of him!!
@Bill Fukkayommamanigga i liKE hIs oLdEr sTufF
F'ing hilarious. Chewing into the microphone.
Inspired my drumming..thanks nofx
great interview!
the DOC and Fat Mike. What in the fucking fuck? That is gonna be awesome.
I need some details on this new Fat Mike label... could be an awesome venture! Also, great interviews Stryker!
This was such an amazing interview. You're so good at interviewing people. It's a skill to keep Mike on track and focused like this. It's like trying to train a wild animal haha
thank you! I was exhausted afterwards :)
I love NOFX and what their lyrics said 20 years ago is still true and relevant now.
Best episode of the pod
Warped tour WAS awesome back when nofx played at lassale park. In buffalo ny. With snapcase and rancid ,bad religion, etc fishbone..bodycount suicidal tendencies , lunachicks h20 ...but
the grass was ruined for 1 season.... so that venue ended. Point being it wasnt policed like a huge metal show. It was chill as fk! M and my cousin proved it was safe to jump into lake Erie at the spot. So we all jumped into lake erie !
with the dudes from h20 and the lunachicks. the main stage was backed up to the lake, and a street skate spot set up back there..it was my most memorable warped ! .
Fat Mike: do you like stuff?
Tuna: I LOVE stuff!
Fat Mike: I hate stuff
Tuna: It's the WORST!
“My sychophant other”
Love fat Mike and the sarcasm!😂
Roach from People under the stairs?!?! That's hilarious!
I love how Fat Mike story of being on Howard Stern is always different.
And I love it because he was never on Howard Stern, but he States it with such confidence, so you believe
He was, but it was yesr after that Howard Stern skit, its a phonecall and its on TH-cam
He was definitely on Howard Stern. I remember it clearly. Michael Graves called in and wanted to argue with him.
Best conversation ever
Mike...you have to name the double album "DOUBLE FATINUM" and the cover has to be a parody of KISS's Double Platinum album.
I mean Lagwagon already did that on FAT. Double Plaidinum.
@@ThenPeterSaid Ahh...didn't know that.
Theres always Lust in Space but Gwar did that
I can imagine that for "major" society Mike can be just some crazy weird old punk, but the reality is that many of us should take example from his hard work and creativity. He achieved a lot. And some of the things he said in this podcast make great sense and are very inspirational.
He's a real one
He is one of the most innovative and creative dudes, with music and especially lyrics
Dudes the punk pun master
True. But I wouldn't recommend picking up many of his personality traits.
Wow cool dude Fat Mike down to earth love the take on happiness and success
man this was such an amazing podcast. Loved it and had a good laugh. But most importantly: fat mike giving props to sum 41 for being great guys just made my day I'd love to see any member of sum 41 on the show. Maybe cone because he gives great interviews
I dont think Mike knows how much hes loved around the world really
Love the show, please bring Mark Hoppus!
Sorry but thought he was going thru Cancer still not good reason for him to be there just hope he's doing well honestly 🦋🙏
@@darrenryan1161 he's already cancer free since many months
@@franco.cordini okay thnx just got my mom home the fight continues but good to hear some positive vibes 🙏🦋
Awesome show. I enjoy this content 100%
Abel, thank you so much!
Great interview! 🤌
thank you!
fuck I got a good, midnight laugh at "have you heard 'Don't call me white?"
thanks for this interview!
You should get Chris Schifflet, Henry Rollins or Ian MacKaye on your show.
This was great
Awesomeness subscribed!
thank you!
Mike is really funny. Great interview Stryka😂
RIP Nofx
Fat Mike and The D.O.C.? SUBSCRIBED.
Stryker! That was the best Fat Mike interview I have ever heard. The music joe rogan is in the house
Great podcast
I love Fat Mike
Once fatty relaxed and stopped trying so hard the interview got really good.
more Mike..
and it's penultimate
I love the clown shoes. Happy to see that Fat Mike finally found some shoes that suit him. 😂
Epic! ❤❤❤
Long life Fat Mike!
Shout out from Indonesia mike
Codependents sounds so dope. The doc is such a damn legend unreal he's with fatty
One last comment ..... HOW DOES THIS GUY INLY HAVE UNDER 5K SUBS PLEASE support INDEPENDENT men and woman share to Facebook IG etc etc shout him out on yer TH-cam let's help homies channel grow
So much love for you! thank you! yes, its a slow build to get the word out but my appreciation level for the views so far is massive! FYI - I really need a sponsor!
Thank you NOFX for keeping your punk rock elite and keeping it fast, heavy, and innovative. What's 32 chords between friends?
There’s really very few punk bands like them that stayed great and continued to put out quality music, I love the last few albums as much as the old shit
Awesome. I got another Mike you should have. Ness of Social Distortion!
fingers crossed on this!
Oh hell yeah mike Ness Is the man
19:47 I really hope you meant THAT BAND with caps since Kyuss is one the best bands ever...good interview, cheers from Peru
This was one of the best Podcasts I’ve ever heard. Lifelong Nofx fan and longtime Stryker fan. Congratulations on the New Radio Gig too!
what's up Richard, thank you so much man!
I
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Ps. That was cool
Fat mike did a " basic instic " a couple of times . Very nice
Why didn't I think about that mid-interview!? Great call!