Enough is Enough...Start The Retool
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- The Boston Bruins season seems to get worse by the day, and the time for change might be now. I breakdown in this video why I think it's time for a retool before the Bruins become the next Pittsburgh Penguins.
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What do you think?
Sell sell sell
Or make a blockbuster
I agree with you 100%.
They need to do the Washington blueprint. I would include Marchand in that too.
The only thing is, Sweeney is not the guy to do it. Also the coaching staff needs to go, except for Goalie Bob.
You can't blame the current mess on Swayman or Korp. They have been getting zero support.
I agree with you
I agree, the Bruins should trade who they can for prospects and picks. Also whoever is in charge of their PK and D-Zone coverage needs to go.
The way the Bruins play D, if by some miracle they do make the playoffs, I doubt they make it out of the first round.
Win later mode
Spot on. I agree 100% with your assessment. Retool and new GM.
Fire Cam too right?
@@bruinsdiehards I think that would be for the best all things considederd.
Regardless of the outcome from year to year I will always be a diehard Bruins fan. Good and bad we stand together. Let's go B's!!
Same. I kinda wouldn't mind a retool so we get some young players
Right there with you
Sucker
Agree. Keep in mind the game is still physical and only ramps up later in season! Keep a few guys that can bring it physically while getting younger with a little bit more offensive upside. 🐻
Agree with your take on Marchand. Don’t move him unless he asks. Hes earned that
Marchy has Bruin blood!!!
I agree with everything you said. You nailed it perfectly.
Thank you
When the coach benches Marchand, that plays 110%, game in and game out, in over time, and in the shootout, I kinda think that they should have a talk with the coach.
They already fired one and nothing has changed
@@bruinsdiehards I understand. But, the coach that they have now, came from the Jim Montgomery era. The Bruins show some inprovements. But in other games, they just suck. Like I said, the coach benching the Captain is a bad mistake.
@ well the coach they have now had been there for 10 years now
@@bruinsdiehards Well, maybe it's time for a change.
@ maybe
I agree but I feel their scouting is poor. For me there is way too much of a focus on US college and not enough on the CHL.
I agree with the ficus but I have heard that is changing
@@benszumack9962 add to that note.. Bergeron was a QMJHL draft.. Marchand as well. I would not call McAvoy a bust, but not a superstar, and he is likely best US college player picked in recent memory? I am likely wrong…and don’t mind being corrected.
2015 draft with 3 first rd picks. Bust. Not 1 left on the team. Protecting Grezlyk instead of Lauzon. What did the scouts see in Lindholm and Zadorov? Good call on the bad scouts.
First time seeing your content, and I'm in the GTA as well.. Bang on brother! Agree with everything you have said. Sweeney and Neely have GOT to go they should have no chance to fix their horrendous mistakes. It's time for a complete clean up of the coaching staff/management/Amateur scouting.
If you look at the gens they have found late rounds the scouting is good. I believe its the direction they get. You feel my pain every time the Bruins lose to the Leafs
@@bruinsdiehards The Gens go for it when they have a chance like this year. Went to the Bulldogs game in the luxury box and got to meet Sennecke! He's going to a star in Anaheim. Are you in Oshawa as well? I absolutely feel the pain when the Bruins lose to the Leafs.
A lot of us GTA Bruins fans on this channel. 👊
@ Go Bruins Go!
@@stanwendt my dad has season tickets to the Gens
This is the results of the "win now" teams of the past that dropped out in first round of the play offs. I agree that it will be painful, but it has to start sometime. They have had a good run. If anyone thinks this team is going to make the playoffs good luck, things would have to turn around now.
Just found this channel and am an instant subscriber! Solid content 🤝
Thank you so much
Yes, I agree, time for a retool. It honestly should have happened last season, but they fooled us all and maybe even themselves when they defied all logic and were at the top of the standings. This season they appeared to be better on paper with the signings of E. Lindholm and Zadorov, but it's becoming obvious they were just complimentary pieces to what was already a very mediocre team. Their performance this season is what I was expecting last season. When they lost Bergeron, Krejci, Hall, Bertuzzi, and Orlov all at once, it never made sense to me how well they played, and Lindholm and Zadorov certainly can't make up the difference. It all finally caught up to them.
I agree
No one wants to see their team lose but the fan base needs to accept that the team shouldn’t try to turn the season around at this point. The retool needs to start now, Don and Cam need to be shown the door, and we need to pick a C in the top-15. The team is as bad as we’ve seen them in a decade, which is why now is the perfect time to start making real adjustments.
Yup
I'm all for a retool, as long as the moves make sense. If the right deal is there then make it, as long as moves are made NOT just for the sake of making deals (those are the ones that end up bad). However, it takes 2 to dance and other teams aren't giving players away. Need to prioritize scoring, pace, and defensive responsibility. I do believe the foundation is there for this team to be good, just need a few more pieces to get it over the hump. I am good for deals to improve the team going forward, but DS please don't make any panic moves. And if the Team acquires picks, just stick to the old rule and take the best player available and stop taking on high risk/reward "projects". The teams that draft well just take the best player available, and end up with better assets down the road for play/trade.
A note on your Bunting comments, we all know Dubas has an affinity of bringing in his former players. He's like video game GM who's too attached to certain players. He did that a lot when the Leafs GM, notably bring in Campbell to be the goalie (was his goalie in junior and rumored for years he was going to get him there)
Sway played great, not much more he could do
@@afhostie yes he did
he's a bum waive him
Must be a goalie lol
This Team Is Like Jekyl & Hyde, When Good, Ok, But When Bad, They Be Very Stincker Bad
Yup
The team doesn't seem to have an identity anymore and it's because they're made up of too many players that don't have a player identity. Too many of these guys are trying to be "everything" instead of focusing on details, playing positionally and situationally, playing to type, etc. Coaching doesn't seem to be able to figure it out either or get players to buy in. Sacco has made some strange decisions in the past month's worth of games and management isn't making the right calls on player personnel. There's times where so many of us are looking at who's being sent down or called up or what the lines are and we're collectively AND effectively predicting the outcome of the game. If we can see it.... why can't management/coaching? It's mind boggling.
@@ComicBookRadio well who gets called up or sent down is a decision made by the GM
@@bruinsdiehards Yep... and the only thing I can think of is they've already decided to retool and are figuring out who has potential on the roster and who doesn't... even if it means losing games in the process. If there isn't a method to the madness... then oh boy... haha
@ well if Swayman is hurt for a long time the retool will be a guarantee
Bruins fans need tougher skin, it's not even been a full season of this embarrassing play. Bruins fans are spoiled as far as regular season points. We've been blessed and now it's time revaluate and suffer and build for the future.
I am so tired of boston trading picks and players for "rentals" so they can make a "push for the cup", it is just dumb at this point.
This team is not made for the playoffs, they are slow, under skilled, and lack focus.
Their special teams is a joke.
They played good in the first half of the 1st period last night, the last 5 mins of the 1st they started to sit back cause they had a lead. When the Bruins scored the first goal shots were 4-4, after that they got out shot 30-19!!! At one point they were being out shot 30-15.
Swayman stood on his head in that one sequence, peake was on the ice for 4 minutes! Swayman couldnt have done much more unless he was able to make a save and then clear the puck himself.
From the middle of the 2nd till the end of the game it looked like a CHL/College level team against an NHL team. The goalie change did nothing at all.
They took 8 penalities (a couple were questionable for sure), The marchand penality in the 3rd was going to be a devils penality till marchand knocked the linesmans hand off his jersey and then the ref called just him. I understand being emotional, but hitting the linesman is not a smart move at all.
Pasta leads the league in goal scoring in January with 9 goals, geekie is waking up, but with out defense they have no chance. Last night before the game they were -20 in goal differential, that is horrible!
Not sure what they can do, but I would start with trying to trade Zadorov and E. Lindholm (but with the NMC they cant), if they were to buy them out then that is a crap load of cap penalty. Everyone is talking about getting draft picks I dont see how that would help.
My thought if you try the Washington approach it could help. Dont sell the farm but sell enough
Hopefully, management is smart and turns this bad year into something positive. They have an opportunity to move out expiring contracts for picks, which they absolutely should do, and if things keep going the way they are, they might end up with a top 10 pick. One of the upsides to so many teams being in the hunt for a playoff spot is that it might drive up prices for rentals at the trade deadline.
I agree
You are.one hundred percent correct on everything you say about this team
Thanks
There probably is a deadline for management on making a decision. I would think at this point.
Yeah but I’m sure they’re discussing it
16 out of 32 teams make the playoffs. To expect it consistently is not realistic. I'm not saying a complete retool, but some expensive "talent" needs to be considered in a major trade.
Bruins fans have been spoiled for the last 10 years. Retool was an inevitable
@ I dont know but they have to try
Clean house this team is garbage, and I love the bruins!
Always love the content. You're right on the money with regards to the retool. We need to decide on this now, otherwise it could get uglier, with no real direction. I'm a guy that will embrace whatever. If we play with rookies and younger players in the lineup during the retool process, it'll be interesting. I've got my dad hooked on the Bruins over the past 5 years as well. Since me and my parents visited Boston and saw a game in our second visit to the city, in 2019, against Buffalo, my dad and I always watch the highlights of the games. I also send him the funny videos from around the league and general bloopers. Always a good thing.
Thats awesome to hear. Glad your dad loves the team
Thank you for the kind words
No, its not just execution. This team was built based on a faulty premise .. that big and slow is a winning formula in today's game .. regular season and/or playoffs. Need to be quick to the puck, skilled with the stick, and constantly on the attack .. constantly pressuring the puck. Bs not built that way .. and it shows.
Agreed
You’re 💯 percent correct! Thank you for your insight!
Thank you for watching
We’ve been in win now mode for the past 5 seasons & have we made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs? No. I agree it’s time for a rebuild/retool but it doesn’t help that half of our team have no trade/movement clauses
@@liamscott5816 it makes it difficult. That is forsure
People, it happens, so years are good. Some are bad we've had almost 10 years of great hockey, so it happens when we need to retool ...I am a diehard, and ❤ them good and bad !
Yeah as a Bruins fan we have had it good for a long time
@bruinsdiehards and this happens. I do think Sweeney missed with Zadorov "Horrible signing," and Lindholm is ok but not worth that contract!
@ yeah the cap will go up so they wont look as bad but you're not wrong
@bruinsdiehards They need a solid #1 center like a Bergeron Scheifele, also The Big thing ..I feel this team as no on ice team Chemistry !
@ number one centers do not grow on trees. Hard to trade for one of those
Is there a way to unload the bad deals ie: E.Lindholm. Zadorov...etc.?
Would be very hard
Not made for the playoffs. If they were they could grind out more games like last night vs or Satruday vs Ottawa without totally collapsing like they did in the second period. Retool all the way. Move out anyone not named Marchand, McEvoy, Pasta and Swayman. Sign Frederick as he still can make an impact. Trade for draft choices and prospects. Then anyone outside of the four guys I mentioned that have no movement clauses, ask them for lists of teams and see who else we have to move. Might only be a player or two, but that's what it will take.
Thanks Court! Great job again!👍
@@tpor1206 yeah will see if they do it because I would hate to see the Bruins become the Penguins
the other big issue with the NMC players are their contracts are huge! what team will want to take on that big of a waste?
@ well that is an issue too
it's obvious the ruins,i mean bruins have to hit the bottom before they can climb to the top again.too many years taking defense instead of offense and trading away all their draft picks for rentals has put them in this dilemma.
I understand going for it in Bergeron’s last year
You’re kinda like the Batman of Bruins reviews
I will take it
Been calling for a retool for some time. ❤
If Lindholm played to the level he was being paid, the Bruins scoring would be much better. They do not look like a team that's gelling even when they win. Pasternak and Geekie play well together and that's about it. Goaltending is not the problem anymore. Its scoring!!
Get rid of Sweeny before he does something stupid to try to salvage the season
Well said and I couldn’t agree more. I didn’t realize this was your channel. I just subscribed. Zadorov has been horrible, I like a big guy like him to clear out the net but he seems slow and somewhat lazy. I think Carlo needs a change of scenery. McAvoy has been off but you can’t let a guy like him go. He’s too good. Just an off year for him. I like that Lettieri kid and I see potential in him. Maybe I’m wrong? I like Freddy but I think he should go too if the return is decent. Beecher is brutal and shouldn’t even be in the NHL, just my opinion A retool should happen now as win one lose one doesn’t do us any good and even if we make the playoffs it’s almost a guarantee seeing a first round exit. I would retool around guys like Swayman, McAvoy, Hampus Lindholm, Pasta, Marchy (although he’s getting up there in age but if you resign him without overpaying probably has a year or 2 left in him), I’d hang on to Zacha and Geekie unless you get something good in return. I’d also change management and try someone different. They’ve done some good things bur has almost done some head scratching moves as well i.e Wahlstrom. Time to retool now.
Thanks for subscribing Curtis. I hope you have been well. Yeah Vinny has looked good but I’m not sure if he is an NHLer or an AHL lifer yet. I want to like Beecher because defensively he is great and really good at faceoffs but man he has played bad.
@bruinsdiehards it’s been a minute since we’ve spoke. Nice to hear from you again.
@ you too buddy. I took some off after Bruce got fired and got some perspective but back talking hockey and not arguing this time lol I promise lol
@@bruinsdiehards❤same here buddy
I agree retool!! The season is lost if by some miracle they have a360 yay!! But don’t double down on team that doesn’t deserve it!!! Time to shop some players
Yup
I'm just going to go for the swirling vortex... there's so many variables.
I watched your video twice to get it down!
Don't know what's going to happen until Lindholm and Mac are back.
The clock is dwindling so it's doubtful yeah difficult to assess any team right now without our two major defense men.
With a healthy team and some reinforcements by trade deadline, there was no reason we couldn't be vying for a wild card spot.
All those names you mentioned for trade have been on my list. Whether I like it or not!
I kept hearing from other fans that we have contracts locked in "we're stuck with coyle" -since the beginning of the season, I've tried to state that's not the case.
Puckpedia 😁
As to the value of our players, I still think a goalie is likely to go.
Most have no team trade lists, more players that are movable than not.
There wasn't any reason to think we couldn't get to a wild card spot with healthy boys and reinforcements by March
It's not so much about blaming jeremy, is the facts in front of us how this season started. We already knew Marchand was rehabbing, we knew Jones and Elias were having problems, but Jeremy didn't step up. It hurt.
The way Jeremy has to play, he's hurting himself.
But there's more going on here - major breakdown in the locker room.
This isn't just about lack of skill.. if we expect hockey players to not be emotional, hold grudges, then we're not being realistic.
The psychology is not working.
I think the term rebuild and retool are sort of semantics in our conversation
I was calling it a "rebuild" when Chara left because we were tearing down our captain, primary defender for over a decade, then big Z was a coach on ice, running the defense.
we'd be losing Rask, and especially our 1C and 2C within a short amount of time
We'd be losing our speedy Gonzales rat, he'd still be playing but not as his former self
Marchand was going to be out the door
Then we lost Cassidy
It wasn't a surprise that Jake gave up on being a career bruin. I remember him saying that many times in his younger years
Aside from Jake, those named above plus a few others are nearly irreplaceable because they're generational players.
I was thinking there's no way we'd be able to "retool" after that amount of loss.
That's why I was calling it a "rebuild"
The specific players we were losing. Quality impact.
At this point I don't know if we'll get to playoffs, but I do think McAvoy is more of a playoff player and he's been neutralized for the past two seasons since he was suspended for that hit on Larson first meeting back with Florida a year ago last September
The physical play is designed for playoffs.
And the difference in playoffs, the reason why lesser teams can surprise is because it's a seven-game series.
A process of wearing down your opponents over the course of two weeks
Not 2 hours
And this season's Bruins are more built to be able to physically wear down opponents
I don't think they're a Stanley Cup contender. Nope.
Yet at the beginning of the season, until Christmas I traditionally say
- "all 32 teams are Stanley Cup contenders until further notice"
We might have been notified but we're not looking at a complete team. We're looking at a clock that's running out! Lol!
There's something else going on in that locker room. It was no reason to get blown out like that last night.
Believe it or not, I've been missing Matt Gryzlck
Go B's!
Well I do know from my sources you wont get your wish about Jeremy
@bruinsdiehards likely not. But if McDavid decides he wants to be traded to the bruins, in exchange for Jeremy
I say we go for it !
😁
Jeremy is spot on for his 2 1/2 - 3 months in. He's getting there, not yet a proven starter goalie at his aav. That's not statistically established yet.
We broke Linus before playoffs, it won't surprise me if swayman gets broken. 🤞
His style play leaves him very prone to injury. Rask was tighter angles, Linus could fill the net.
Jeremy moves a lot
Saves his own rebounds on top of robbing opponents.
Very taxing on the body. He didn't play a full game that style.
I still think he needs more time.
I think he would have learned so much under Chara.
I don't feel like these goalies are in sync with the defense overall
I don't mean to be picking on Jeremy - he's not proven. He played awesome for 2/3 of a game
Last season he came out okay then went into a pretty good slump. Linus covered
So forgive me if I still have concerns. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse
For whatever reason, there's been no consistency out of him as a 1A starter, last year he slumped
We'll see if he can sustain this.
@@TheFoolintherainn I’m not disagreeing with you. Rask never hurt his hip we might be having a whole different conversation
@bruinsdiehards oh Rask would be a fun conversation!
some believe he waited too long to have surgery, wasn't much left to work with by the time he got around to it?
🤷
Almost time to fasten the seat belt.
Here we go again!
Spitting in the wind hoping it doesn't come back in our faces!
Enjoy the game!
🐻
The Bruins decided that to be successful in the playoffs they had to be able to compete physically with Florida.
However... Florida has everyone on board to play sound tough hockey from lines 1-4 and all their defencemen as well. Florida even picked up Boqvist from the Bruins and he plays a regular shift on the 4th line plus i saw him on the PP. They even get rid of theirtwo toughest dmen in Eckman-larsen and Gudas and they still have a very physical. Its not just the personel, its because everyone is on the same page.
Say what you will but Swayman is not a 8 million goalie and were spending 7 mil on Lindholm who was a 3rd line center in Calgary. Frederic is playing himself out of a contract and every 10 games Coyle shows up.McAvoy does not deserve the 9 million at all. Then theres Carlo who for a big guy is horribly soft.
Coaching wise....Sacco has not shown me anything that warrants him being the Head Coach.
Florida and the majority of the East are just better
@@bruinsdiehards One player (Laine)coming back from injury turned Montreal's hopes to the positive .
You'd think with the PP and PK being such a disaster and GF/GA differential would wake Sweeney up.
I guess not.
Just a steady rotation out of Providence 🙄
@ Montreal also had a ton of young talent ready to break out
Retool seems like a good option, keep the core guys, pasta, mcavoy, zacha, the lindholms, Marchand, lohrei, and maybe Carlo, swayman too. Get rid of everyone else. We will have a good mix of young and old players next year to add speed. Hire a new coach for next year as well and we should make playoffs no problem
@Cwalshy16 should work
not swayman
Maybe the managment meant, that the team is made for playoff games (I doubt that as well) and NOT that the team could make it to the playoffs ;)
Fully agree. Trade as many of the mid tier 2nd/3rd liners now while they are performing well and slot in the young guns. Should get a first for a Fredric and a hand full of 2nds and 3rds for the collective others while hopefully bringing back 1 or 2 solid-decent prospects.
Not only would it help the future but I think it would be a kick in the ass to the the big name players/contracts who can’t go anywhere to pick it up or you will not be seeing postseason hockey.
And oh ya… say goodbye to Neely and Sweeney.
The Bruins just beat Ottawa 2-0 looked very strong at the end of the game like a playoff team that can win..I’m a Diehard..
Our goaltenders are fine.
The problem with the offence is they can't forecheck worth a damn for the most part. There is no cohesive plan for forechecking. We can't spend enough time in the opponents zone to keep our defense fresh.
Our defense is horribly backing in all the time and allowing easy entries into our zone. Then the opposition cycles it around the outside virtually unopposed until they have a good shot opportunity with a solid screen or tip chances. No goalies can stop what they can't see or stop deflections.
This team right now is not capable of making the playoffs let alone going anywhere in them.
Finally, this team needs to go back to the basics. The amount of poor passes, inability to take a pass cleanly, hit the net with shots is unreal considering they are in the NHL. You don't need to be superstars to handle the basics of a game they been playing their whole life. This stuff angers me and I imagine most fans more than anything. I can handle getting beat by better teams etc but to continually lose cause we can't execute simple basics is maddening.
I would be okay if it looked like they were trying but most of the time it doesn't
First thing they need to do is to retool” the President and the GM. Let’s face it, they are the ones that put this team on the ice. Third line choices for an entire team of third line players.
They might be built to win in the playoffs, but you have to get to the playoffs first.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
I agree with you, look to the future. Playoffs are a write-off at this point. I hope geeke stats i think he could only get better.
Great video and assessment. I believe they make the playoffs as wildcard this year and defeat Toronto in the first round
I will never hait beating Toronto lol
Agree with you 100% - they are handicapped because of the no trade clause. But yes it’s time to do something to shake things up.
@@michaellalli7693 cant keep doing the same thing and expecting results
Agree 100%
Never mind a re-tool! Blow up this horrible hockey team starting with Sweeney! Marchy, Coyle, Carlo, Zacha need to go for starters. Carlo blocks shots and scores the odd goal but he is useless taking the man from the crease. He was on the ice for at least 3 of the Devils goals. Marchy is a sentimental favorite but time to trade him for a grade A center! Coyle has lost his game as has Zacha. If McAvoy doesn't wake up then he can go too. Way too fat a salary when he's been mediocre at best the last 2 years. Blow it up! Feel bad for Monty. Great coach fired to take heat away from Sweeney! Shame!
If Don Sweeney had any genius he would swing something for Nikushkin and Protas before their value goes up.
They wanted big, these 2 are the kind of Big they needed, maybe Crouse as well
Watch out for the HABS!
They look good this year
I think goaltending and defensemen are fine except for Carlo. I don't know if having a child has messed with Carlo's focus but he's been horrible this year and I thought he was one of the Bruins better defensemen last year. i agree that the forwards are 3rd line players and they are the ones playing horrible team defense. They go to the puck like a bug to light leaving way too much ice in the defensive zone. Lohrei is making some bad mistakes but he is young and has a lot of potential, love his offensive play and future play potential. Used potential a lot but it's early in the morning for me.
Sweeney and Neely’s Plan A has been a flop so far this year. When results consistently miss the desired goal, there are two choices: change the goal or reconstruct the process, right? I don't mind Zadorov as he's been the thumper he was advertised to be. Lindholm has shown to not be a 1C which teams need for some measure of success. Their signings remind me of back in 2005 when Bob Clarke also thought he was the smartest guy in the room by signing Hatcher, Mike Rathje and Chris Therien, all big D guys. Meanwhile, Selanne, Kovalchuk, Jason Spezza and others were blowing by them like they were lampposts. You mentioned the Pens and their curious deals compared to what the Caps have done in short order. My concern is what the Pens and B's have in common: poor management. Dubas in Pittsburgh and Devito and Swartzeneggar in Boston. I have no faith in them overseeing any kind of process towards building a championship caliber roster. I don't have confidence they'll hire the best coach and staff available next summer for this stage of the development. A fresh set of eyes from outside the organization is badly needed to crtically and honestly assess the strengths and weaknesses of the roster. With these two at the wheel supported by the blind faith of the Jacobs, I don't share that faith.
Fair assessment
@bruinsdiehards Retool/rebuild, sure. But with their hands all over it, massive doubts of them leading the Bruins to the promised land like Peter Chiarelli and Claude Julien did, brother.
I say they keep the players who are playing, sell off what they can to get picks to start the rebuild.....DO NOT trade for rentals.
Start the re-tool asap IMO to make their 1st round pick as valuable as possible and recoup picks from whoever they can move on from other then the core players
Yup
start by firing the team that sharpens thier skates, at times it looks like they are skating on sand. puck management is terrible all those board battles lost, poor vision when it comes to recognizing plays anticipation of potential plays etc. Lazy play and this is not a reflection of missing injured players. it is the team as a whole
I am ready for the retool. The only untouchables for me are Swayman, Pasta, McAvoy, Lorhei and Potsy. Bring up the young kids and see what they can do. Acquire picks and prospects for the future. My please move players are Zadorov, E Lingholm, and Wahlstrom.
Tough to move the first two
@@bruinsdiehards a man can dream. Keep the videos coming
@ thank you and always dream
Off topic but If the Bruins get a new coach, if Sacco doesn't go as planned. Will management allow the new coach to make decisions and have their staff? But with Montgomery, he didn't get to have his own staff/decisions on the roster. I’d say fire Sweeney and then start the retool. (reset the season to recoup picks, sell at the deadline when there’s an opportunity to do so. Then reevaluate the roster and team for the foreseeable future)
I’m not too sure. The Bruins usually don't let the coach have that much power
Team full of 3rd line players is spot on. Beside Pasta, there is no elite, All Star type talent. Marchand is a 2nd line guy now. Our minor league system is ranked 30th, help is not on the way. I think it's time to ask guys with no move clauses if they are willing to reconsider.
@@Yette see what you can get for the UFAs first
I don’t mind the retool idea. I think they have a good enough team to make the playoffs but I agree that they have not been able to consistently show it. That translates to a most likely early exit in round 1 even if they are able to turn things around. If you watched the Oilers last year they had a distinct change in philosophy with their coaching change, which was an obvious boost to their play. The Bruins change in coaching this year saw very little change and therefore seems almost pointless. When I watch the Bruins they are as you described them but mostly their bad games just look unorganized, even lost.
Edmonton also has two of the best players in the world
Right and to start last season they were second last… therefore team direction matters.
I'm so glad I missed the game
Lucky
100%
Management made the decisions to build this team.
Unfortunately I had and still have little faith in their attempt to do so.
Go Bruins without Sweeney et al.
Yeah changes should come this offseason
There’s nothing about this team that makes me think we’ll make the playoffs. Even during the preseason, the team looked rough and unmotivated.
Yeah it’s a weird year
You want to know who I feel bad for? All the Bruins beat writers and bloggers, I feel for you guys, lol, after that third goals, I turned off the game. All the writers and bloggers after keep watching. When I watch, the Bruins choke trying to clear the puck, 3 times, THREE TIMES and could not clear the puck, 1st goals was scored. How about Sweeney doing his job, sit all the players involved in that play, sit them, all of them. The Bruins after to do some drastic, the players are not listening or trying. Cut some of these players, they are not NHL players. Fire NEELY and SWEENY!
I turned it off in the third as well
You're not way off on the topic of a retool but, I am curious why you're so insistent that players with a NMC "aren't going to be traded". It's not like a player with a NMC has never been traded before, especially in a rebuild/retool scenario, they just get to control where they are traded to...
Do you think E. Lindholm or Zadorov want to go through another rebuild/retool at age 30+?? I wouldn't expect them to ask for a trade as that can come with negative connotations about a player's attitude around the league so, the only scenario that would possibly come to fruition would be the organization asking if they would either agree to a trade and if so, where, or find a willing partner first and then ask the player if they will accept (Like they did w/ Ullmark literally just last year...)
Players with no trades yes but players with NMC are different. They usually only move when they asked to move. Both Zadorov and Lindholm habe said publicly that all the moving they did in the past year was hard on their families. They might not want to stick around for a retool but I doubt they want to leave just yet
@@bruinsdiehards In the context of a trade, a NMC does not always equal a full NTC.
For example Charlie Coyle has a NMC but a partial NTC. He can't be waived or sent to the AHL but, he only has an 8 team NTC.
Lindholm and Zadorov do have both, at least currently. Zadorov's drops to just a NTC next year and only 16 teams the year after.
@ I know. Yeah Coyle is a bit confusing and asked someone in the organization about it and waiting to hear back.
Agree with GetOffTheLawn, diehard Bruins fan through thick and thin, have been since 1970. Don't follow Red Sox as much as I used to because I do not like rooting for a uniform. Constant changeover doesn't feel like a team. That said, Bruins need to re-tool but not wholesale changes. I have no say so let's see what happens.
Still fun to talk about it
@@bruinsdiehards Oh yeah, my friends and I do it constantly. We are all ex-hockey players. I started playing organized hockey when I was 9 and stopped playing at 28. I wish I played longer but got married at 28 caught up in buying my first house, even sold my 1973 z28 which kills me to the day!
@@scottromer8584 yeah I had to stop playing when I was 40 due to a concussion and it sucks to stop playing
How much better would we be with McAvoy + Lindholm back in the lineup? How about a Mac+Lind+ new player(via trade)? Is there a hockey trade to be made with a team like NASH? Im kind of torn on this topic.
The problem is much deeper than Mc and Lindy
They had these guys at the start of the season though and same results
@ to fair to Marchand/Pasta, they both had slow starts when Lindy/Mac where healthy. We haven't seen a healthy Lindy+ Mac with Marchand/Pasta rolling. I'm not saying this solves our problems, but it does make us a better team.
I'm just afraid of what we have to give up to make a hockey trade worth while. 1st+ Coyle +?(Potsy, Lysell?). If we make a trade it has to be for a player under 26.
@ they have nothing coming up the pipeline ap you cant trade all you have
I knew 10 games in they are trash
Clear the roster
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More comments than likes is very telling
If you’re thinking that is a bad thing you be wrong. I reply to every comment and have conversations with every person who is willing to have one.
You live in Toronto man I thought you were from Southie getting Dunkin’ Donuts on the way to work every day and smoking a pack and a half of Marlboro
@@believingintheblood8540 I did once live in North Reading and do love my Dunks when I come back to Boston
I sounded like a broken record late last year and early this year. This team if filled with third and fourth liners. Losing DeBrusk and Ullmark really hurt. Goaltending stole about 10 games last year, that's 20 points we could use now. DeBrusk had speed, a scoring threat, and a great penalty killer. Anyone miss him yet?
Sweeney continues to fill the roster with US born college players and ignores the Canadian junior leagues. Look at the farm system. How's that working out? It isn't. He signs E. Lindholm, another third line center, for a ridiculous amount of money. Yes he was a third line center before he was signed, just go look at his career numbers.
By the way, for all those Lohrei fans, he has the second worse +/- on the team. Zadorov has the best +/-, go figure. I'm no Zadorov fan. But I've mentioned it often I don't believe Lohrei belongs in the NHL yet. He screws up more often than Carlo!
Both could be traded along with Coyle and I wouldn't shed a tear.
Retool is needed, but do we trust Sweeney to do it? He'll just go out and sign more guys like Wahlstrom, Lindholm, Jones, Johnson, Tufte ......
Hey Court, you should give Bruce a call, see if he's busy next year, Bruins need a coach.
@@Seeker22000 I think Butch is happy in Vegas. Might win another cup this year
@@bruinsdiehards After he wins the cup he'll be bored, lol.
@@Seeker22000 will see
RETOOL!
Yup
Not watching but following sens game… SOG went from 8-2 for bruins to 7-11 for senators.. I just shrug and think “ that sound about right …. Somehow get a negative shot.
Given the way they play they will win tonight and lose the next two
On January 16th, dear President Neely, in response to a reporter's question about the upcoming trade limit, said:
"We'll see where we are. I think right now we have to evaluate two paths: one, we're sellers, and the other, we might restructure our team a little bit. [...] We still think we have a playoff team here, and we certainly don't want to jeopardize a playoff spot because we've made some trades that might help us in the future but hurt us in the present."
Excuse me??? "We'll see where we are [...] We still think we have a playoff team here"!!! This is blatantly mocking the fans, their expectations (and those of some ambitious players on the team). How can a team president come to spout such insipid remarks in the current situation? And at the 2025 Black and Gold Gala, Neely added an additional piece of nonsense:
"We are not happy with our situation or our performance since, frankly, training camp."
"Not happy"??? While management is "not happy", the fans are angry... among other things, against this management that is only not happy and that is preparing a hopeless post-March 7 for them since, as usual, GM Sweeny will have waited too long once again and will have only been able to collect pawns in exchange for his best pieces. In short, on March 7, there will be new faces... but the team will present the same portrait.
You can always change the condiments on your hot dog, in the end it will still be a hot dog.
Meanwhile, another defeat last night, this time 5-1 against New Jersey... but BRUINS fans are reassured by the idea that Cam, Don and Joe are not happy!
So, retool? No. Rebuild? Yes... but a smart rebuild, that is to say by keeping a talented, experienced core as well as the only youngsters who have confirmed their determination and potential. In my opinion, this core around which we must rebuild is: Pastrnak, Marchand, Elias Lindholm, Brazeau, Lettieri, Poitras, Kastelic, Lysell, McAvoy, Hampus Lindholm and Peeke.
For all the others, I say "Many Thanks" for the services rendered and "Good Luck" under other skies.
Very well thought out comment I must say
Zadorov is trying too hard to live up to his contract. I get it. But he needs to seriously simplify his game. Use his reach. Move bodies out of the front of the net. Simple passes out of the zone. Stand up for your teammates when needed. Stop running around and looking to kill someone with a big hit or taking bad penalties. He's getting exposed. Stuck with the contract now so the team needs to work with him more and keep it simple, simple, simple! I believe E Lindholm is nursing a shoulder injury or something related. Probably an end of year type surgery. He's just not playing the way he's capable of.
He is getting expossed a lot
Call Vancouver…only chance to unload those two new contracts, as both players like Vancouver…might accept trades, back there…
Other moves, like you had mentioned, as well as bringing up the kids who need to prove that they can finish/score at the NHL level. 2 top D will be back…Sway is back to being Sway…
The first two guys you mentioned have no move clauses so it would be tough but worth a shot
@ I know, but both liked their Vancouver experience and Vancouver likes them. See if they will move…
@ that is meesing with the CBA if you do that
Dude, trade in your B’s stuff for some Leafs stuff like you really want and let’s talk in April.
I have way too much self-respect to do something as moronic as that
The entire narrative of "just make the playoffs and anything can happen" is horseshit. There's been what, 3 cup winners since the 70s who finished the season in the bottom half (5-8) of the playoff bracket? Most or all of those can be attributed to lucky breaks and extraordinarily bad calls going their way. In no universe is just making the playoffs good enough. I've always said, finish 1-4 or finish last. You're better off with a high pick than a 1 in 2000 chance of winning the cup by just squeezing in.
Agreed
I hope Sweeney understands whats going on. This is a bottom ten team in the league. He can still do more damage.....im terrified what he will do if its anything other than selling. This team has no skill and even worse no resilience. This is not Boston Bruins hockey. It is some of the worst hockey ive ever witnessed. We cant pass, cant hit an empty net and play with zero hockey iq plus we have zero physicality.
Sell sell sell! Win now mode has won us NOTHING!
D-Liners for us are absolutely shocking and are letting us down, Zadorov, Lohrei, Carlo and Oesterle are absolutely awful, Swayman did everything he could and it isn't his fault, A Re-Tool is defo what we need, I will be shocked if we make the playoffs
Making the playoffs would be the worst thing that could happen
Zadorov is the worst defenseman I have ever seen, and I have been watching the Bruins for 40 years plus !
I agree Carlo is sucking this year... but he has been so rock solid every other year... and now they throw him 3rd pair minutes ,,, you think if they have "faith" in geekie and zacha to come around.. why can't they try to fix him? he also looks bad because he is responsible for all bad faceoffs... but it seems he is in the doghouse anyway with coaching, and maybe he is lazy and needs to step it up himself.. but his 4 million $ contract is not a big deal... wow those other ones hurt so much..
I see zacha and coyle have a modfiied... we have three 3rd line centres in lindholm coyle and zacha..we could drop one of them to try a Providence top centre for the rest of the way and claw back 4 or 5 million... Zadorov we are stuck with until at least 26-27. I also am shocked at other teams' players without a trade clause...there are a lot without them.. so maybe look at trading one or a combo of these: Coyle ($5 mill) or Zacha ($4.75) , CARLO 4.1 ( I would hate though) , Trent Frederic $2.3 and Korpisalo $3 million.."If there was a market - these look like the only ones that have modified or no clause and have a bit of cap. Could we get some prospects? maybe.. all of these are mainly "depth trades so we wouldn't get a lot, but maybe a decent cap dump. THEN would there be a super imbalance from top tier to the bottom line players. Well that is all I can think of after looking at salary caps and contracts. Trade clauses are brutal on this team.
Those are all possibilities but Carlo and Coyle both have modified no trade clauses
@ yeah.. likely a 16 team no trade list.. but hopefully “preferred” would be teams in the playoff chase… ah.. Carlo is a 10 team no trade list and Coyle clause is confusing.. it is a player approval clause.. with a 8 team no trade list… looks like Zacha is more possible..
The rest of the team just doesn’t have any cap hit to worry about.
I've never believed this team is made for playoffs. We've been a regular season team for a half dozen or more years. NOT built for playoffs. We are built to get into playoffs and get one round of gate for the Owners. This year, we aren't even built for regular season.
Leafs? This is more their year.
FLA? Only got better
Even Montreal is doing great (They've done their rebuild over 5 years)
Our offseason signings made the B's BIGGER and BADDER, NOT faster or more skilled. AND Faster and More Skilled is what the modern NHL is now about.
100% agree
@@bruinsdiehards well... that'd because I am amazing.
@ fact
I think a good analogy would be the sucking chest wound of the NHL. Breaks my heart that the last five or six games I've watched I'm seeing Brandon Carlo.........meh. I'm going to stop right now before I get toxic but yeah let's retool
@@jonathanschadenfreude9603 hey I get it. players we like have been average at best
Made for the playoffs? Unless something huge changes, they won't make the playoffs.
@@billmarshall2536 agreed
This team sucks it's obvious retool now .
These players need to stop making excuses for why they keep losing and admit that they just plain suck. Swayman in particular is a laughing stock and needs to go. He's lost them more games than anyone this year. I haven't the slightest idea why they keep starting him. They need to find a way to rid themselves of his contract.
He 100% was bad at the start of the year but has played great as of late
Get rid of Sweeney and Neeley! Get some new blood in the front office, NOT former Bruins!
only fools blame Swayman for this...... dead, empty team in front of him. Retool! new management too.
Yeah Swayman has played great as of late
4-1-1 Since McEvoy has been out
McAvoy* There 3-2 in their last five games and 3-3 in their last 6.
This team is terrible. They play like they couldn’t care less. No heart! Overpaid unprofessionals. Make Coyote captain. Any player up for trade. Macavoy and Pasta paid and not delivering. Zadorov. Is so bad he makes Carlo look good. I can’t watch this nutless team play anymore!
@@kathleenwalsh1676 you can't just trade anyone though
You're not climbing out of this hole. As far as i'm concerned Pasta should be scoring a goal a game. Good ole Don and Cam aren't going anywhere and they'll keep making shit signing deals with guys that aren't top 6 players. Retool is going to take a couple years.
@@mikedenton6485 a goal a game?
@bruinsdiehards yes a goal per game.
@@mikedenton6485 when was the last time any player did that?
@bruinsdiehards Bret Hull 90/91 season, so it is possible.
Trade Pasta. That will get you 2 25 to 30 goal scorers, better defensively for sure. They will clear up salary cap space. Listen, young dummies who weren't there, they traded Esposito & Hodge in 75 Both who were 3 times the players Pasta will ever be. Truth hurts.
He has a no move clause
@bruinsdiehards Every one has a price. Dumb move to include that option.
Swaman cant do it ...................
Well he is injured now
Good stuff. These guys looked so good on paper before the season. Swayman laid an egg for the entire first half and is finally looking close to where he should be. Unfortunately we have ZERO defensemen. It does us no good to have one of the heaviest teams in the league if your massive defensemen don’t hit anyone (Carlo). Every game you watch them turn the puck over in our zone over and over again. Zadorov is a bust. Carlo is so over rated it’s ridiculous. Marchand, Lindholm, and Colye are invisible (playing somewhat better the last few games). I wanna see Poitras, Merkulov, Lysell, McClaughlin mixed in. Too many invisible players for my taste (Walstrom, Beecher, Koepke)
Marchand is nowhere near what he was. Put the c on him and he thinks he's important ? He was a hell raiser and that's when he was his best. Now he finds ways to give the puck away in ways I've never seen. Him on the powerplay is utterly hilarious. He's on his last legs and this team's identity with him. Big bad bruins ? Not anymore. I see Ottawa Columbus and others playing in the old bs mold. Mean and nasty but this bunch looks therye waiting for someone to step up. And no one is. Lindholm lindholm and the giant Russian Mr potato head are beyond liabilities. It is time for a rebuild because even if by some miracle they make the playoffs......where are they going ? Not far and only golfing a little later than connor bedard. Seems poetic that in the 100th anniversary the team starts a rebuild.
@@Garry-h8v retool*