In 1990 nobody spoke English in Italy. We grew up studying French as 1st foreign language at school. Only after 1995-1996 English started to be widely introduced into Italian schools.
Bella Livorno Is this regarding why the Italian spokesperson spoke in French? If so, I think the spokesperson spoke in English in 1993 and their following participation in 1997.
@@061321847 well so far it’s been a mess The kinetic sun doesn’t work and the delegations are full of complaints about the directing of their entries Btw you mean Serbia right? The last time i checked Yugoslavia doesn’t exist anymore
@@SimsMoyal Really? Never knew about it. As a Bosnian Yugoslav, I am somehow sad Bosnia will not participate, but there are other Yugoslav republics in it 😊😊 It will be fun, I hope they make it well in Turin.
I agree, with the exception of the 1997 UK win, Eurovision, as well as the music in general has been in decline since the early 1990's. Now it's all too political .
Apparently he was actually some local they found on the street and paid to vote for them, because they were either too broke to afford a jury or just forgot to bring one 😂 Either way, he was still pished
He said One point to luxembourg since the starting... The mistake was made in zagreb where they didn t add the point to luxembourg on the display...please think before writing...
The presenters had to have a good command of both English and French at least, especially for the voting English has become more dominant in recent years
I'm so ashamed of some of these commenters. 1. Not everyone is going to like the same songs as you. There's these things called opinions, y'know. 2. Not everyone wins by cheating. 3. Italy won a total of 2 times while Ireland won 7 times. You're all acting like Ireland has never won. 4. Why do you have to be immature and complain in the comments. You can't just be proud of how far your country or your favorite song came?
Daddy listen to the Irish and Italian songs if you think the Italian one is better than the Irish song fair enough. In my opinion the Italian song wasn't good enough for a top 10.
It was a joke it was a good song but they cheated this is the Spanish jury staling to switch the Votes even Terry Wogan said Italian Jury who taught they were from Spain.
So it turns out that Italy's broadcaster actually paid a group of random Croatians to vote on their behalf rather than assemble a jury. Suddenly their vote makes a lot more sense 😂
Interesting how Ireland first got 12 points after they lost the lead they had held for much of the voting. Meanwhile France, who got lots of full marks, never took the lead at any point. Spain thankfully at least made the top-5, but in my opinion either they or France should've won, or Yugoslavia. We in Iceland were euphoric over our 4th place, which made us fall permanently in love with this contest. A shame the Benelux countries were so ignored in the voting.
I'm just glad nobody ended up with the NULL point in 1990, even the bottom placed countries got "decent" scores. And how I miss Terry Wogan. " I didn't give that Italian song a prayer!" LOL!!! And by the way these two were some of the best presenters ever. Remember the HOT MESS in the following year in Italy: Toto Cutugno himself, a TOTAL FOOL--who KNEW?!--and Giuliola Cinquetti, who was gracious but could barely speak any other language besides her own Italian and a little French. Why are Italians so bad with English and even French? Lord have mercy.
I was surprised that Mr. Naef did not address the Italian spokesperson in Italian, when he was born in Lugano and a swiss. Switzerland has 4 official languages and Italian counts. He must not be happy with the italian resilience to stop and correct the mistakes. Well, most probably like others Franck had a lot of patience.😊 this was tested in 1992 when Cinquetti and Modugno took the mikes. As the voting progress into the late night, the italian winner had problems repeating the votes. Still wondeful years, when the entries were dignified and not burlesque.
And he knew it very well actually. But that's not the point because later the Italian spokesperson spoke French well. The point is that he said he was part of the Spanish jury for some reason and started by 12 points and not 1. Since there is an abrupt shift between when the spokesperson made those "mistakes" and the way he gave the points later, I think for some reason someone who wasn't supposed to announce the points managed to get there and was kicked out. That could be the reason why the Italian spokesperson said there had been a "technical issue" and then started giving the results flawlessly.
What a shame for Italy! Was the Italian giver of the points drunk or what ("Es-pa-agnol")?! Why did he say he is from the Spanish joury? First of all he also refused to start again! How he could come on the public TV being drunk?!
Luca D'Esposito he didn’t understand what? The Italian jury clearly said he is the Spanish jury - unless you are drunk you should know who you are! No matter what they say and if you didn’t understand you wouldn’t say you are Spanish if you are Italian of course unless you are 6 feet under your liquor
Spanish, French and Irish entries were much better than the winning one. Spain should have come first. Turkey must have taken position in top 10 and Austria was deserving the fifth place.
Italy were lucky and accidentally tactical not giving Ireland or France anything! Joelle Ursull totally should've won that year and UK shoulda been much lower, biggest farce involving the Brits at ESC that Emma with a wimpy song placed a position higher than a high-energy, fast-paced summer song from Yugoslavia. Cyprus giving 6 to Greece there is the lowest they've given em, it would be 25 years later the next time neither traded the usual laughable 12 points. This was the last Eurovision before world wide web was launched...
@SimsMoyal Yes but as you have seen, the host asked him in italian to repeat their votes! But he insisted to speak in french! Even though, Italy could speak in italian while it was voting! Why the heck an italian would choose to soeak french or english when no one forbiden them to speak italian? In their own language?
Old. Terry Wogan. From Republic of Ireland. But of course worked and lived in United Kingdom. Always speaking over other countries voting. But like that other Irish chap. Graham Norton,. Always saying oh we have a point. Meaning the UK....I understand it that Ireland isn't in the UK::: thinking it's really funny these two and many many thousands of Republic of Ireland people have chosen to live in UK.
![All Winners of Eurovision Song Contest [1956-2023]](/img/n.gif)
In 1990 nobody spoke English in Italy. We grew up studying French as 1st foreign language at school. Only after 1995-1996 English started to be widely introduced into Italian schools.
Bella Livorno Is this regarding why the Italian spokesperson spoke in French? If so, I think the spokesperson spoke in English in 1993 and their following participation in 1997.
If I have not mistaken from time to time Italian Spokesperson gave their votes in English too.
The mess with the italian jury is the promo for the mess waiting next year
Let's see how they will do this year, 32 years after they hosted the last time. Sending love from Yugoslavia 🖐🏻❤
@@061321847 well so far it’s been a mess
The kinetic sun doesn’t work and the delegations are full of complaints about the directing of their entries
Btw you mean Serbia right? The last time i checked Yugoslavia doesn’t exist anymore
@@SimsMoyal Really? Never knew about it. As a Bosnian Yugoslav, I am somehow sad Bosnia will not participate, but there are other Yugoslav republics in it 😊😊 It will be fun, I hope they make it well in Turin.
12 Points for Helga Vlahović and Oliver Mlakar, without Oliver the Italian spokesperson didn't get anything
"Pretty disappointing to only end up in 6th place, we thought we could do better." My how the times have changed.
You are right. In recent years UK has been in need to get even the middle places.
I agree, with the exception of the 1997 UK win, Eurovision, as well as the music in general has been in decline since the early 1990's. Now it's all too political .
The song wasn't even that good either 🤣
@@Loverboy19691 all too political?
with the bashing Israel gets in Europe those days they still managed to win the popular vote in 2018 ...
The Italian spokesperson was probably drunk; he already celebrated.
Apparently he was actually some local they found on the street and paid to vote for them, because they were either too broke to afford a jury or just forgot to bring one 😂 Either way, he was still pished
He said One point to luxembourg since the starting... The mistake was made in zagreb where they didn t add the point to luxembourg on the display...please think before writing...
@@valentinospagnuolo6998 Erm, he said he was calling from Spain! 🤣 How could anybody trust that anything he said was accurate after that?
Cypriot woman was so thrilled when Helga greeted her in Greek :). "Oh, kalispera sas" I like the way she told that :)
It was unexpected. And indeed she had a veeeery Greek way of responding.
OLD SCHOOL MODERATORS, OLIVER MLAKAR & HELGA VLAHOVIĆ, both speak 4-5 foreign languages *****
The presenters had to have a good command of both English and French at least, especially for the voting
English has become more dominant in recent years
"Azucar Moreno "
the 12 points of cyprus defined the result
Italy wins esc 1990, fantastic victory!!
I'm so ashamed of some of these commenters.
1. Not everyone is going to like the same songs as you. There's these things called opinions, y'know.
2. Not everyone wins by cheating.
3. Italy won a total of 2 times while Ireland won 7 times. You're all acting like Ireland has never won.
4. Why do you have to be immature and complain in the comments. You can't just be proud of how far your country or your favorite song came?
Daddy At that time,Ireland won only once
Daddy listen to the Irish and Italian songs if you think the Italian one is better than the Irish song fair enough. In my opinion the Italian song wasn't good enough for a top 10.
@@antonioorlovic6711 *3 times actually, the most recent at that time being in 1987
If there had been televoting that year, Spain would have come first obviously. Turkey might have been in top 5 because of migrant votes.
Video calling hadn't been introduced yet. It was introduced in 1994.
"...shrewd voting by the Italian jury..." LOL XD
It was a joke it was a good song but they cheated this is the Spanish jury staling to switch the Votes even Terry Wogan said Italian Jury who taught they were from Spain.
Love the way how Helga says "yes" at 0.36
So it turns out that Italy's broadcaster actually paid a group of random Croatians to vote on their behalf rather than assemble a jury.
Suddenly their vote makes a lot more sense 😂
Croatia: nobody’s gonna know
Italy: they’ll know
Interesting how Ireland first got 12 points after they lost the lead they had held for much of the voting. Meanwhile France, who got lots of full marks, never took the lead at any point. Spain thankfully at least made the top-5, but in my opinion either they or France should've won, or Yugoslavia. We in Iceland were euphoric over our 4th place, which made us fall permanently in love with this contest. A shame the Benelux countries were so ignored in the voting.
Sending love to Iceland from Yugoslavia 🖐🏻❤❤❤
5° Spain 96 points
Im so happy for spain 5th I wish for 1 or second
a fantastic song
Perhaps this is a silly question, but why did the Italian spokesperson call himself the Spanish spokesperson?!
rhysepoos he was drunk like 999
He was drunk
He opened the champagne early!
BRAVISSIMO, TOTO CUTUGNO!!!
HELLO FROM RUSSIA!!!
Cheaters
@@djbillybopdjbillybop2817 cry
how bizarre ? Confusing speech from the italian spokesperson and neither France nor Ireland received any points from Italy
It is to remember so rare receiving some points from them lol
All for victory :)))
I'm just glad nobody ended up with the NULL point in 1990, even the bottom placed countries got "decent" scores. And how I miss Terry Wogan. " I didn't give that Italian song a prayer!" LOL!!! And by the way these two were some of the best presenters ever. Remember the HOT MESS in the following year in Italy: Toto Cutugno himself, a TOTAL FOOL--who KNEW?!--and Giuliola Cinquetti, who was gracious but could barely speak any other language besides her own Italian and a little French. Why are Italians so bad with English and even French? Lord have mercy.
vitellia I agree, 1990 was a good year with few ‘bad’ songs. Though my favourite was 🇭🇷, followed by 🇫🇷 and 🇮🇹.
Lack of drive for languages. They haven't felt their european identity not since the middle 90s
0:10 Nice combination of similar colors and layouts on the flags
What did the Austrian spokesperson tell to Helga before the start of their votes announcement, something like "ich schaufe nicht"?
Aha I see now, I understand some German but not enough:) thank you!
Yugoslavia the best
I was surprised that Mr. Naef did not address the Italian spokesperson in Italian, when he was born in Lugano and a swiss. Switzerland has 4 official languages and Italian counts.
He must not be happy with the italian resilience to stop and correct the mistakes. Well, most probably like others Franck had a lot of patience.😊 this was tested in 1992 when Cinquetti and Modugno took the mikes. As the voting progress into the late night, the italian winner had problems repeating the votes. Still wondeful years, when the entries were dignified and not burlesque.
come è cambiato l' ESC negli ultimi vent'anni!!!
Lucky the male host knew some Italian..
Griffin Seannery yea..... shame on them speaking french without even knowing english well - to witness - see the mess 1991 Eurovision was
Oliver and Helga are definiton of hosts. So profesional, so eloquent... :)
And he knew it very well actually. But that's not the point because later the Italian spokesperson spoke French well. The point is that he said he was part of the Spanish jury for some reason and started by 12 points and not 1. Since there is an abrupt shift between when the spokesperson made those "mistakes" and the way he gave the points later, I think for some reason someone who wasn't supposed to announce the points managed to get there and was kicked out. That could be the reason why the Italian spokesperson said there had been a "technical issue" and then started giving the results flawlessly.
Back when United Kingdom was dissapointed to finish fifth 🙄 10:00
Sixth*
Well done. Italy.
2:08 It's so funny how he says: And these are the votes of the * gibberish * jury.
Oliver i Helga...
What a shame for Italy! Was the Italian giver of the points drunk or what ("Es-pa-agnol")?! Why did he say he is from the Spanish joury?
First of all he also refused to start again! How he could come on the public TV being drunk?!
He didn't understand what the judge was saying, I understood.
Luca D'Esposito he didn’t understand what? The Italian jury clearly said he is the Spanish jury - unless you are drunk you should know who you are!
No matter what they say and if you didn’t understand you wouldn’t say you are Spanish if you are Italian of course unless you are 6 feet under your liquor
SimsMoyal Yes, just hearing another time I understood, you're right.
SimsMoyal How rude
just because you dont agree doesn't make it rude.
Spain had the best song and 2nd France
Toto! Poštovanje i sjećanje iz Zagreba, Hrvatska! ❤️🙏❤️🇭🇷❤️
Why was Sweden flickering.
Hello Im from Spain and this os my top 5
1. Spain 🇪🇸
2. France 🇫🇷
3. Yugoslavia 🇭🇷
4. Italy 🇮🇹
5. Iceland 🇮🇸
what a shame, why the fuck RAI sent this kind of "spokeperson"????
I think Turkey should be on the top 5...
Me too
Spanish, French and Irish entries were much better than the winning one. Spain should have come first. Turkey must have taken position in top 10 and Austria was deserving the fifth place.
hahahhahahaha we win deserved
1. France
2. Italy
3. United Kingdom
@escbelgium2
doesn't sounds true to me
he talks with the italian jurries in italian
so what is this fairytale he talked about
@bquinteirosr79 who told you this little peace of fiction ?
Ireland sabotaged themselves 😥
Quién estuvo por España en 1990?
Azucar Moreno
The Spanish intro, the best.
Chi qui dopo la vittoria dei Maneskin?
Sono nata nel 1989 e non posso ricordare la vittoria del 1990, è stato bello vedere vincere il mio Paese
@@selenaborgna2588 beh io sono dell 82 ero piccolissimo :D
hahahah! where's the video calling :P
This was pre video calling
Chi qui dopo la vittoria dei maneskin?
Io
Italy was the best song really, how come they didn´t win from an early stage?
They had a commanding lead at the start though no points from the United Kingdom and Norway to Italy meant Ireland was in the lead for a while.
Spain deserved the win!!!
Italy were lucky and accidentally tactical not giving Ireland or France anything! Joelle Ursull totally should've won that year and UK shoulda been much lower, biggest farce involving the Brits at ESC that Emma with a wimpy song placed a position higher than a high-energy, fast-paced summer song from Yugoslavia. Cyprus giving 6 to Greece there is the lowest they've given em, it would be 25 years later the next time neither traded the usual laughable 12 points. This was the last Eurovision before world wide web was launched...
Jack Walker or not.... you wouldn’t know if it was accident of not
I would believe anything from them
@escbelgium2 with all the crap that's happened before, i wouldnt be too suprised.
@SimsMoyal Yes but as you have seen, the host asked him in italian to repeat their votes! But he insisted to speak in french! Even though, Italy could speak in italian while it was voting! Why the heck an italian would choose to soeak french or english when no one forbiden them to speak italian? In their own language?
Under normal rules, you have to give your votes in English or French, as those are the two official languages of the EBU.
@escbelgium2
i don't belive it either - doesn't sounds real to me
Italy 1964 non ho leta gigliola Cinquetti
1990 insieme 1992 Salvatore cutugno
2021 Italy esc maneskin zitta ebouni damiano David song writer
3 winner victory esc Italy 1964 1990 2021
Old. Terry Wogan. From Republic of Ireland. But of course worked and lived in United Kingdom. Always speaking over other countries voting. But like that other Irish chap. Graham Norton,. Always saying oh we have a point. Meaning the UK....I understand it that Ireland isn't in the UK::: thinking it's really funny these two and many many thousands of Republic of Ireland people have chosen to live in UK.
Ireland should have won it. liam reilly was a brilliant singer. he did us proud.
Best song by a mile it was daylight robbery.
imi place
very strange vote from italy: 0 point for france, 0 point for ireland!!! a strange winner... like in 1968
Cliff Richard was robbed in 1968 and Liam Reilly was robbed in 1990 absolutely disgraceful voting
Spain was robbed.
Italy awful song! France and Ireland were better.
Toto Cutugno ahahahha, terrible song, and I'm italian.....
2:09 Espa- agnol!
@escbelgium2
i don't belive it either - doesn't sounds real to me