As a newbie myself I find everything I learn in ML to be invaluable. I joined the group and everyone is very helpful and I'm learning more about the camera everyday. Been working on low light settings and reducing noise and it's going great. Just upgraded to the recommendef SD card and saw an immediate uptick in performance.
That's fantastic. Such a great bunch over there 🙌🏾 Shooting in low light is a skill that'll last you forever and a lot of people hide from that. So glad you're getting on well with it though, it's good.
I really respect the balls and fearlessness you have to express yourself in these matters in a public forum. I’m still working up the courage to pull this stunt off. 😅
Much love to ya and the community man! I tried ML one time and was sold on just the abilities available. Did I get good footage? Hell no! But, I know that's my own limitations of knowledge. I am so excited to finish my M-Lite build. I plan to use two EOS Ms to record my daughter's videos for her YT channel. I've used tons of cameras and nothing compares to the quality for the money. Thank you for everything you do and I'm sorry that people have been sending out bad vibes.
You are so right! The Magic Lantern software is truly a beast! I am so glad to be able to learn cinematography at such a low budget. Everyone in the ML community is very nice as well! Again, thank you so much for your channel on teaching everyone how to use ML and make movies!
Yes is such a good tool to learn on...a great teacher. Ml community is definitely the best group on the internet , nothing but help & support. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, really appreciate it.
Totally agree with you, Cole. On my first day with crop mood I almost gave up on the eos m (again). Turned out I didn't know what I was doing (thanks for the crop mood settings-video😅 shoutout to Bilal). I have had several shoots since then, and the footage looks great, live view works, no moire in most modes and no pink frames anymore. I'm a happy man!!
Just the encouragement I need. I still haven't used magic lantern properly but have been shooting videos in jpeg with eosm with manual vintage lenses for the past year. I keep seeing beautiful results from others using magic lantern and knowing that others have overcome their newbie limitations is reassuring 👍
Nice one mate. Those shots look incredible... Old doesn't mean bad.. Learning how to use something will yeild better results more often than newbie with better tech. I remember watching a video from Parker Walbeck's channel where they tested the theory and experience trumped gear every time.
Hey bro, yes definitely experience....fully agree with that. I love the older stuff...it looks better imo just like old vinyl, old film etc, they all have nice texture wether you're watching or listening. Just wish I didn't upload in 1080p lol
Cole awesome video, I agree 100% with your points there are going to be pros and cons using ML. However, if you just take the time to learn, put in some work and most importantly, use your camera with ML you will be able to produce some rather incredible footage given the price point. I'm hoping to use what I learn in the group and over the summer just experimenting to film a family event in the UK come Fall with my EOS-M. Thank you for your videos and sharing your knowledge in the group, it's greatly appreciated!
Hey bro, thank you 🤗 yes sir, keep testing, learning and shooting and you'll find it so easy to shoot with. I also agree it has cons but they can be easily overcome. Hopefully you can share some of your family video in the group....it's always nice to see people using it in different environments.
I always appreciate your effort to share information on cameras and your experience with them. I recently purchased a eos m ( currently using M50) as much as i would like a new camera, this will be my 2nd cam in 5 years. Should arive in a week 😃I hope the Magic Latern will allow me to see the world a little differently than before with higher color depth. Your channel is inspiring and i hope you continue to do amazing things in this life
Thank you 🙌🏾. Magic Lantern on eos-m will spoil you lol after using ml even 10bit from other cams feels like step back. I really hope you enjoy using it.
Amen ! 🙏 ive been kicked off FB long time ago so I miss all the drama. That Asian footage was incredible. Take care bro - much love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Kudos to your brother, really respect your efforts. For past 3 years was simply investing in cameras and gears and didn’t use it properly obviously no results. However the moment I got the magic lantern wow!. It is indeed magic! It pushed me to use the settings to record and I was learning each and every degree of turns. I didn’t know there was this many settings actually this EOS-M have?, which just blew my mind to infinity madness (Dual ISO - madness to core). I’ve been trying different video setting for every other video to learn thru the changes. Simply I got to admit and give a great respect to ML developer. Who gave us the power of RAW video into a pocket camera. Ignore the others, will only support the one who embrace the RAW.
Thank you bro and you're so right!!! There's tons of features that never get discussed. On the Sony group people were so happy to Anamorphic desqueeze but ml does every desqueeze available and shutter angle too. Keep learning bro and happy shooting 🙌🏾
I love the community and this video is very important thank you for voicing it out, yes its gonna have a long learning curve to use it but as cinema lover Im definitely gonna learn a lot using it. Its a good start for me as I'm a beginner plus the dollar rates skyrocketted last year in Sri Lanka so cant be shelling out 1000s of dollars on a black magic or a top tier dslr. I love the eos m and ML community love all the videos all the content creators have done.
At first I was unsure of the reliability especially when using at weddings. But I persisted and I can now say, "thank you Tropic. My skin tones are amazing!"
I luv the EOS M! It have so much potentials! Equipments doesnt matter. Ideas and knowing what you use is more helpful to make videos! Thx for the video
Magic Lantern is just fine. I use it all the time. Zero issues. Just picked up a FX30, but I'm still planning on using my 5D mark ii and 70D. They're just fine.
My 5DMk3 died on me a week ago. I miss it so much and hopefully it can be repaired. I bought it used to run Magic Lantern and learn grading and for photography. Beautiful image.
Great explanations, perfect examples, good talk 👏🏼 Respect. I've been thinking of the EOS M thanks to ML and I've thought of pairing it alongside my M50 and GoPro Hero 10. I have a feeling like its value is incredible, and all the work people have put into producing ML is invaluable itself. There's something fun about getting out there and experiencing, and that fictionality at that price point is a learning curve worth the investment. Thanks for the video, it was really nice 😁
Thank you so much. I think you're a perfect candidate for the m and a dive into raw video as you have "normal" cams already. It would be great alongside your M50 and if you have any trouble with M50 high dynamic range scenes you can bring a lot of information back with the Eos-M. Definitely give it a try 🙌🏾
I just discovered you while looking for ML info for my eos 6d That little eos M - and the short video from asia - so much possibility! I’m guessing that similar results can come from the 6D I’ll keep searching and reading, but in the meantime I found your FB group and joined so I can see what you ML users are getting into I’m just recently dusting the old equipment off - time to see what new things I can do with it
Awesome. Yeah there's so much that can be done with these if you have the time to learn its quirks. I don't think the 6d is as advanced as the Eos-M but you should be able to get something going.
@@AltCine definitely right knowledge is important, for me at the moment I am using a canon 4000d I can’t get magic lantern on it as at now but am still learning to get the most of it with the camera and gear I have 😊
Definitely bro! I was shooting 8bit for while with the Olympus and with the right lens and careful settings it was great. So yes, you can still get great images with 4000🙌🏾
Hi Collin, I discovered your channel recently and I’ve been loving your content. In regards to the topic at hand, you are such a creative, imaginative, resourceful (shall I keep going…lol) man and on a wavelength that the small minded haters could not even begin to comprehend, so please ignore then and keep creating great content, like only you can. Focus on the positive and follow your passion.
Preach! After spending too much time going back and forth on YT and FB, I realized that most owners of expensive cameras are not real life directors or DP, but the TH-camrs, and most of are not doing much, if not nothing with it, excepted calling themselves cinematographer. No negativity, just fact. One is free to spend his money the way he wants. But the goal is to be know for the production, not for the gear owned.
Nice one Col! Never understood why haters bother to sound off and bring the rest of us down. Thanks for taking the time to produce all this content too mate, it's invaluable to people like me. Take care matey!
Hey Pete, it makes no sense bro....it's better to just keep it moving. The community is growing fast though so there's definitely a need for a morale boost every now and again. 🙌🏾 Thanks bro
Totally agree with all you're saying here. We've been doing this long enough to see who will and who probably won't gel with the magic lantern setup. My DMs are always open to group members to ask questions, like you, I like a challenge. Personally I would shoot a wedding or commercial content with an eosm or 700d. But I'd have a laptop with me to pull a file to see if the footage is going to work. Experience is the key here. Posi and David are great film makers and definitely need more exposure for their talent. I've noticed some of the ML critics tend not to be in the community group either. Now about officialsayer in a London wooded area, in a towel. 😂
Exactly bro, we've been doing this too long now to say it can't work 🤣 boys and toy's. And yes, I believe there's lots of people in the group with enough knowledge to make it work for serious events. Official sayer is up for anything, great guy to work with 🙌🏾
Great video, mate. Well said. For me this new CROP MOOD is a game changer - I spent a weekend learning it (studied Bilal's videos & Sergio's) testing, becoming familiar with it, and of course shooting with it, and it feels rock solid, AND monitoring on my feelworld 7" works flawlessly. I was considering selling it in the past, but now I'm definitely keeping it. It produces stunning video.
"Más claro el agua..." Here at the first step of the learning curve. It was one of your vids indeed that convinced me to go with ML. I feel rarher comfortable now shooting with drones and Gopros but I felt I needed to combine that with some handheld camera that wouldn't break my bank account. I will even use it on regular drones hopefully. And for around the price of a basic blackmagic setup I now own two cameras and a variety of lenses and stuff I will need. I just need to learn how to use all of it properly 😅 (Commenting here for the algorithms and all that. One Love).
I co-sign this completely. I think people don't understand not all projects are the same! even if you have professional cameras you won't use the same for every project, this is why most DOPs prefer to rent camera bodies. back in the day circa 2017+ I used to shoot paid music videos with the old Magic Lantern on my 5D Mark III. and I still miss that particular look even having edited footage from cameras a thousand times more expensive. also fiddling with your camera is fun, discovering a new feature for ML is exciting & people have no appreciation of how miraculous it is that a camera smaller than the palm of your hands can churn out RAW video
The image is crisp though! Ima see if I have a old camera I can slap it on !! This will be great for those risky shots where you can’t afford to buy a new camera
Nice video man . The haters will always find a reason to pick at it. I saw some amazing work on the Nex 5N a few years back that still blows away stuff today - because the guy behind it had talent..no matter what the camera these days, it can all look 'good' online - its the cost, the features, the usability to YOU that matters.
Excellent video! Always in total agreement with you when you are making this type of content! I would love to see you play with the 5d mark 3 or 5d mark 2. Have you had a chance to mess with MLV on them at all?
do you have a color grading tutorial for davinci that goes from the MLV app settings, exporting, and explanation of color spaces in MLV app and davinci for best results?
I really enjoyed watching this. You already know I have four 5d Mk II cameras for the home multi-cam studio I'm building out for several new YT studios, and I'm starting to test using Magic Lantern again. I'll get back into the ML forums, and I'm curious what you think about using ML with the intention of converting it to monochrome. I really love the black and chrome version of Mad Max Fury Road and planning to test using ML to capture broad dynamic range with the intention of converting it to monochrome. Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated, as I can't recall any examples of ML used for monochrome work.
Thanks man 🙏🏾 I've never converted anything to monochrome so I have no idea. I did read up about it and apparently the colours you choose play a massive part in the whole process. I also saw that there are specific cameras that do this too...RED has one. Maybe try load some luts on the camera and see which ones look best.
@@AltCine thanks so much for this Cole, I'll do some research and tests, and let you know it turns out. I know the workflow may be demanding, but I'll be shooting a lot in low light and curious how I can maximise monochome dynamic range.
To me, its just not worth upgrading yet. Im using a 5D mark ii with MLV RAW and it looks so good to me even for a 15 year old camera. I use it for professional work and still get compliments on how to the footage looks. I use a 70D and Lumix G7 as B and C cams. The 70D doesnt really hold up but the 5D with MLV Raw still smokes both of them. Ironically its the oldest camera... the Lumix G7 came out in 2015.
Thanks for sharing. I definitely feel you should hold onto it if it's working for you. I spent thousands trying to find the right system for me and now I have....I'm holding on to them.
@@AltCine I have issue with crop mode on HFR my screen is black but when you press the record button it will show up then black again if stop recording, do you encounter than issue?
Thank you bro. Yes the community is amazing 🙌🏾 always ready to help and that hasn't changed since the early days of the Facebook group...such a good place to learn.
600D? I guess you're using one of the old nightly builds. I had that on my 550D and wasn't a good experience. Assuming you're using the right card and it's working fine, you may have to drop the resolution a bit
Can you tell me at all if ML is available for a Canon C100 mark ii, it would be interesting if they had a version for that video camera thanks and I'll be looking at joining the discord soon 👍👌
Is it just me or is Crop Mood finicky? I'm almost more comfortable on the old regular build- it seems more stable to me. Crop Mood 1080p is all zoomed in when I'm used to it being the least cropped in, but with more aliasing on Dannes build. And a lot of resolutions tell me I'll get 0 frames of recording on an 128gb/200mbs SD Sandisk. I installed Crop Mood onto an EOS M that previously had ML on it on a different SD card. I don't guess that caused my Crop Mood to get all buggy. Hopefully I'm not the only one. But everyone else is acting like it's a smoother experience. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong.Yikes.
I would start from scratch. Install crop mood again but let the timer run out to remove bootflag. Reset camera to factory settings and deep low format card. Run the installation again. When I first tried crop mood it acted a lot like you described and I honestly don't know if all those steps are necessary but they definitely worked for me.
Love this bro! Don’t worry and be bothered by these idiots who don’t know better. I’ve never even used or owned an Eos m or used ML but have been so intrigued for years. Just hoping one day I can get ML on my M50 and 70D I can start as well as find a EOS M is hard & I don’t wanna manual Focus everything, that’s why I wanna use my M50 & 70D. Let me know if you got any suggestions too. Oh and I just saw that Korean guys video on the group recently too!
I don’t know bro I’ve seen ML footage from the EOS M and I loved the result. Those haters have G.A.S. Too many people seem to want perfection without the effort.
Why is the 5dmk3 not being used vs the eos m? As someone who has a 5D and looking to breath new life into it rather than investing in a Eos M.. Thanks in advance!
There's lots of debate on this but imo 1080 has always been the sharpest. The only reason I use UHD despite increased rolling shutter is because it doesn't crop too much and minimal aliasing and Moiré.
I recently purchased a C-Mount zoom lens, and tried a 3x crop with 1080p mode. However, the record button doesn’t work. I thought something wrong with the camera and powered down and on again. Still the same record button doesn’t work issue. But when I change to Canon 50mm f/1.8 in 3x corp with 1080p mode then the record button works. Ah it worked I thought. Again once I change back to the C-Mount zoom lens, surprisingly still the record button doesn’t function at all. Feeling quite strange to understand how come for a normal lens the 3x is working and not for C-Mount zoom lens. Am I doing anything wrong here?
Hmmm interesting. There's a problem with m42 adapters that have electronic connection on them and it causes weird behaviour. Does yours have electronic connection?
@@AltCine No worries, brother, manage to make it work now. Plus thanks for replying prompting. No the C-Mount to EOS-M adapter doesn't have any electronic connection. At first I thought the same, after lots of investigation understood need to “Enable” - Release shutter w/o lens feature inside the Custom Function (C.Fn) sub-menu under one of the Settings tab. After enabling this setting, now were able to record with the C-Mount lens, its recording like a charm.
I installed ML to my m50, i'm using firmware 2.0.2, but I'm not able to access the ML menu once it's installed. I followed the instruction on how to install ML using the firmware update, restarted the camera when prompted, and was greeted with no change. When I hit the menu button, it just shows the default canon menu. Pretty much everything is just the regular canon menu/ui except for when I hit the info button a few times, then it shows the ML overlay. I'm not able to control the overlay in video mode. In photo mode, I'm only able to cycle between iris and ISO using the dpad. TLDR, ML didn't install right, I can see the overlay but can't really control anything. Unable to access ML menu. Is this a common problem people have?
Bruv ... Video is SO MASSIVE and I am SO NEW. 🤣 My Gawd, mate! I understood about 25 words in this entire video and most of them had nothing to do with video. 😬 What am I getting into? I'm scared, cuz. I'm scared. 😂✌️❤️❤️
I've been using Magic Lantern since the T2i, still currently shooting with the 5D Mark III and loving it, however my dream is that Bilal's Crop Mood may one day be ported to the full frame goodness that it the 5D Mark III. Oh I'd be happier then a pig in sh*t.
Plus you forget hwo dodgy it is to convert it isn't plug and drop and edit u need Nov editor then you export it and then you go to DaVinci or premiere or whatever you use
I love those people that say it can't be done, cause every day people come and prove them wrong. Is it perfect? Nope, cause there is no perfect camera. You have to know it's limitations and work around them. Having an IT background my EOS M is like running Linux on an computer. It's cheap, it can do lot of things very well, but you have to put in time an effort and it get's better over the years. Last but not least, I get sometimes reminded about those guys that say they can't swim cause the shorts they wearing. The camerabody contributes only a small part in the total effort...
Hey Ricky, yep I love them too...I said it makes me angry but honestly....I'm just laughing when I read the comments. As you said, We both know that it's more than useable in the right hands....just requires knowledge.
That's right, log 422 10bit. The m has a very nice texture to it but the fx30 is a lot cleaner which is to be expected. I did a very rough comparison video a couple months ago so shouldn't be hard to find on my channel.
I'm pretty sure it isn't. The cheapest are 100d, 650d, 700d and eos-m for crop mood. For best image quality it's the 5d2 and 5d3 but no crop mood yet. There might be a nightly build for your camera but it will be really old and won't work well.
😅 no probs. It's all down to when the camera was released. The older ones can be hacked but canon changed the chip soon after, that's why it only runs on certain models.
I have had a lot of people saying that it destroyed their cameras, I want to use it for what it does, but I am kind of scared of ruining my DSLR. I have used a hack before on a different type of cameras (bridge) Sx40 HS, and the hack works flawlessly however I am kind of scared of using the ML as many people warned against it, others praise it. I have been using DSLRs for donkey's years, but, never used ML I have seen it on other people's cameras and how they made great movies with it, but, it's a bit risky, unless I throw caution to the wind and bite the bullet and do it.
@@genuine0 been playing with magic lantern since 2016 and never bricked a camera. Maybe there is a possibility but I've used it on so many different bodies and never bricked a camera.
@@JesseQuinnMedia yes I'm 100% sure. I guess it depends what you want to shoot. If you're into grading, short films etc then the M3 won't come close to ml. If you're just recording podcasts, TH-cam vids etc then the easy workflow and non hack software will be easier to work with.
@@AltCine Thank you! Short films of the like; my problem with the M is it does not have a swivel monitor. Is there a cheap $30-40 range monitor option? Thanks!
@@JesseQuinnMedia why not try the 700 or 650D? That might suit you better. We're bringing out a very basic 4" 1000 nit monitor for this very reason. It's very basic but the concept is just to have a small monitor to pull focus etc that is very inexpensive. I think ours will end up around $75
Don’t listen to the keyboard trolls. While most of us are out creating, they are just looking for opportunities to impress us with their lack of knowledge.
First of all thanks for making this amazing video .This is motivating and inspiring many people .I would like to know if magiclantern is compatible with Canon 80d
Thank you so much, you're very kind. I don't think it's available. There might be an old nightly build but it won't be any good. The best Camera's for magic lantern are Eos-M, 650d, 700d, 100d and 5d2 or 5d3.
@@AltCine Thanks for responginf i've been looking for it since long time ago but i guess it is a security setup made by Canon to avoid magiclantern use on both 80D and 5DMK4
Yes that's right. They started to change the chipset which still had vulnerability but not enough to run ML. I was so hoping for the Canon M50 but that got abandoned very early despite the progress.
I have Canon 50D super cheap camera with magic lantern it now can shoot 10, 12, 14bit, h264 some much it's amazing how many options yuo without spending money for external recorder. Down side of expensive camera it most time not in use so you basically wasting money that you can use for other more important purpose.
Is it worth buying newer version of canon EOS m mark 3 or can I buy used canon eos m 2012 and side load with magic lantern, which has better value for money ?
Well you can learn filmaking on any camera, even your phone. If you also want to learn colour grading then your camera should at least be 10bit. Working with raw is the best and that's why people love magic lantern. If you want to delve into colour grading then definitely get a ML camera for budget reasons
@@AltCine thanks !! I don't have a camera phone and even phones are expensive when compared to cameras , I couldn't find eos m here in India , so can I can go with any ml supported camera available in the list , i see too many videos about canon EOS m , but not about other ml supported cameras
For the people who doubt ml or on the fence. I've been using ML for 2.5 years now. It's great. Yes it's unstable to an extent. Like I was shooting a scene for a short. For some reason one file was not recorded, idk camera just plain old didn't record it. But this is rare. Like very rare. Usually if something is not right you'll have error messages all over the screen. You can't miss it. I've shot like 2tb of footage in the past 6 months and can't recall ever having this issue. For context the stock camera firmware will give you 30mbps footage that is soft and extremely hard to grade, how the fuck is that anymore professional? Give me any camera under 1500 bucks and the eos m, I'll choose the eos m, 9 times out of 10 because I know how to work with it. Please stop pretending that ML is some kind of buggy ass program that barely functions. It's not.
Hey bro, there are some people that still doubt it because they had a bad experience but you're right 99.9% of the time it's fine. It still has to come with caution though but once you know what you're doing it's fine.
Those comments are only coming from people that believe a camera they are using out of the box will give them the cinematic look and then they are upset when they realize it is not how it works. Be open to new or different things. Back in the days I shot with the Canon XL1s and tried things out or I bought a super 35mm adapter to make Canon fd lenses work on my Canon HV30. I also used ML with the Canon 550d for commercial work and some features were so helpful like the double exposure etc. I also think that people should watch more content from guys like Nigel Barros or D4Darius. Because they are using quiet old cams like lumix gh3 or gh4 and creating some amazing stuff. I think they should also watch your content as well because I believe you are a very smart person and I'm really looking forward to your projects like the m-lite. Don't let these comments stress you up. Greetings from germany
Thank you my brother, this is a very intelligent comment. What you said about them shooting with modern retail cams is so true. I think they're the ones stuck in the past with that old mentality. It's ironic that the people using old camera's are the ones that are using them with minimal gear and using ai to fill in the gaps which I have to admit that ai based services are actually very useful. Thank you for the comment 🙌🏾
Please create more magic lantern tutorials and issue troubleshoot... and say f*ck off those ignorants who think money is more powerful than the art of creativity
Haha my Tropic commercial PNG didn't render properly but you get the idea 😅 Also I uploaded in 1080p jeeeeze
As a newbie myself I find everything I learn in ML to be invaluable. I joined the group and everyone is very helpful and I'm learning more about the camera everyday. Been working on low light settings and reducing noise and it's going great. Just upgraded to the recommendef SD card and saw an immediate uptick in performance.
That's fantastic. Such a great bunch over there 🙌🏾
Shooting in low light is a skill that'll last you forever and a lot of people hide from that.
So glad you're getting on well with it though, it's good.
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I really respect the balls and fearlessness you have to express yourself in these matters in a public forum. I’m still working up the courage to pull this stunt off. 😅
😁 thank you, I know some people might take this video personally but I'm only interested in the people who really want to learn 🙌🏾
Much love to ya and the community man! I tried ML one time and was sold on just the abilities available. Did I get good footage? Hell no! But, I know that's my own limitations of knowledge. I am so excited to finish my M-Lite build. I plan to use two EOS Ms to record my daughter's videos for her YT channel. I've used tons of cameras and nothing compares to the quality for the money. Thank you for everything you do and I'm sorry that people have been sending out bad vibes.
ML was permanently installed on all my Canon cameras since the 7D up until my old M3! Loved it!👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾 🇬🇧🇸🇪🇹🇹
Nice. You must be an expert now 🙌🏾
Can the M2 or M3 do MagicLantern?
You are so right! The Magic Lantern software is truly a beast! I am so glad to be able to learn cinematography at such a low budget. Everyone in the ML community is very nice as well! Again, thank you so much for your channel on teaching everyone how to use ML and make movies!
Yes is such a good tool to learn on...a great teacher.
Ml community is definitely the best group on the internet , nothing but help & support.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, really appreciate it.
Totally agree with you, Cole. On my first day with crop mood I almost gave up on the eos m (again). Turned out I didn't know what I was doing (thanks for the crop mood settings-video😅 shoutout to Bilal). I have had several shoots since then, and the footage looks great, live view works, no moire in most modes and no pink frames anymore. I'm a happy man!!
That's awesome man, I'm glad you stuck with it. Let's keep learning together 🙌🏾
Just the encouragement I need. I still haven't used magic lantern properly but have been shooting videos in jpeg with eosm with manual vintage lenses for the past year.
I keep seeing beautiful results from others using magic lantern and knowing that others have overcome their newbie limitations is reassuring 👍
Awesome video cole. You’re very appreciated in the group! Well done as always
Ahhh thanks Randy 🙌🏾❤️ I appreciate that man
Nice one mate. Those shots look incredible... Old doesn't mean bad.. Learning how to use something will yeild better results more often than newbie with better tech. I remember watching a video from Parker Walbeck's channel where they tested the theory and experience trumped gear every time.
Hey bro, yes definitely experience....fully agree with that. I love the older stuff...it looks better imo just like old vinyl, old film etc, they all have nice texture wether you're watching or listening.
Just wish I didn't upload in 1080p lol
Cole awesome video, I agree 100% with your points there are going to be pros and cons using ML. However, if you just take the time to learn, put in some work and most importantly, use your camera with ML you will be able to produce some rather incredible footage given the price point. I'm hoping to use what I learn in the group and over the summer just experimenting to film a family event in the UK come Fall with my EOS-M. Thank you for your videos and sharing your knowledge in the group, it's greatly appreciated!
Hey bro, thank you 🤗 yes sir, keep testing, learning and shooting and you'll find it so easy to shoot with. I also agree it has cons but they can be easily overcome. Hopefully you can share some of your family video in the group....it's always nice to see people using it in different environments.
I always appreciate your effort to share information on cameras and your experience with them. I recently purchased a eos m ( currently using M50) as much as i would like a new camera, this will be my 2nd cam in 5 years. Should arive in a week 😃I hope the Magic Latern will allow me to see the world a little differently than before with higher color depth. Your channel is inspiring and i hope you continue to do amazing things in this life
Thank you 🙌🏾. Magic Lantern on eos-m will spoil you lol after using ml even 10bit from other cams feels like step back.
I really hope you enjoy using it.
Amen ! 🙏 ive been kicked off FB long time ago so I miss all the drama. That Asian footage was incredible. Take care bro - much love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Lol you been causing trouble? Yeah David is amazing at those mini docs 🙌🏾
Kudos to your brother, really respect your efforts. For past 3 years was simply investing in cameras and gears and didn’t use it properly obviously no results. However the moment I got the magic lantern wow!. It is indeed magic! It pushed me to use the settings to record and I was learning each and every degree of turns.
I didn’t know there was this many settings actually this EOS-M have?, which just blew my mind to infinity madness (Dual ISO - madness to core). I’ve been trying different video setting for every other video to learn thru the changes. Simply I got to admit and give a great respect to ML developer. Who gave us the power of RAW video into a pocket camera.
Ignore the others, will only support the one who embrace the RAW.
Thank you bro and you're so right!!! There's tons of features that never get discussed. On the Sony group people were so happy to Anamorphic desqueeze but ml does every desqueeze available and shutter angle too.
Keep learning bro and happy shooting 🙌🏾
I love the community and this video is very important thank you for voicing it out, yes its gonna have a long learning curve to use it but as cinema lover Im definitely gonna learn a lot using it. Its a good start for me as I'm a beginner plus the dollar rates skyrocketted last year in Sri Lanka so cant be shelling out 1000s of dollars on a black magic or a top tier dslr. I love the eos m and ML community love all the videos all the content creators have done.
i don't regret knowing your channel bro you've just been my savior thanks so much for the Motivation I AM FROM TANZANIA
Thank you, I only hope to inspire some people. You have a beautiful country and it's on my list to visit.
At first I was unsure of the reliability especially when using at weddings. But I persisted and I can now say, "thank you Tropic. My skin tones are amazing!"
😅😅
I luv the EOS M!
It have so much potentials!
Equipments doesnt matter.
Ideas and knowing what you use is more helpful to make videos!
Thx for the video
Totally agree bro, it would be impossible to find a better camera at this low price point.
Thank you
Magic Lantern is just fine. I use it all the time. Zero issues.
Just picked up a FX30, but I'm still planning on using my 5D mark ii and 70D. They're just fine.
Fully agree man, it works very well. Enjoy the fX30, it's such a great camera.
My 5DMk3 died on me a week ago. I miss it so much and hopefully it can be repaired. I bought it used to run Magic Lantern and learn grading and for photography. Beautiful image.
Great explanations, perfect examples, good talk 👏🏼 Respect. I've been thinking of the EOS M thanks to ML and I've thought of pairing it alongside my M50 and GoPro Hero 10. I have a feeling like its value is incredible, and all the work people have put into producing ML is invaluable itself.
There's something fun about getting out there and experiencing, and that fictionality at that price point is a learning curve worth the investment.
Thanks for the video, it was really nice 😁
Thank you so much. I think you're a perfect candidate for the m and a dive into raw video as you have "normal" cams already. It would be great alongside your M50 and if you have any trouble with M50 high dynamic range scenes you can bring a lot of information back with the Eos-M. Definitely give it a try 🙌🏾
2024 and I'm listening to you learning a lot about magic lantern and ESM for my son thank you
@@boxingdrama hey man, glad to have you with us. You will learn a lot with this camera, it is the best teacher. 🙏🏾
I just discovered you while looking for ML info for my eos 6d
That little eos M - and the short video from asia - so much possibility!
I’m guessing that similar results can come from the 6D
I’ll keep searching and reading, but in the meantime I found your FB group and joined so I can see what you ML users are getting into
I’m just recently dusting the old equipment off - time to see what new things I can do with it
Awesome. Yeah there's so much that can be done with these if you have the time to learn its quirks. I don't think the 6d is as advanced as the Eos-M but you should be able to get something going.
EOS-M is a fantastic camera. I have had mine for a few years. I have a C100 MKII also. The EOS is a great b cam. Both have strengths and weaknesses.
Those are some amazing points, knowing your gear plays a big role in knowing it’s capabilities of what you can do with it 💯👏
Yes brother 💯. It's all about about knowledge 🙌🏾
@@AltCine definitely right knowledge is important, for me at the moment I am using a canon 4000d I can’t get magic lantern on it as at now but am still learning to get the most of it with the camera and gear I have 😊
Definitely bro! I was shooting 8bit for while with the Olympus and with the right lens and careful settings it was great.
So yes, you can still get great images with 4000🙌🏾
@@AltCine thanks bro 🙏🏾 I’ll keep it up that’s very motivating 😊
Hi Collin, I discovered your channel recently and I’ve been loving your content.
In regards to the topic at hand, you are such a creative, imaginative, resourceful (shall I keep going…lol) man and on a wavelength that the small minded haters could not even begin to comprehend, so please ignore then and keep creating great content, like only you can.
Focus on the positive and follow your passion.
Preach! After spending too much time going back and forth on YT and FB, I realized that most owners of expensive cameras are not real life directors or DP, but the TH-camrs, and most of are not doing much, if not nothing with it, excepted calling themselves cinematographer.
No negativity, just fact. One is free to spend his money the way he wants. But the goal is to be know for the production, not for the gear owned.
Yes Fred 🙌🏾🙌🏾 exactly right! We have to make use of what we have in order to push ourselves forward. Drown out the noise and get working.
You are the inspiration for me to buy the canon 700d, hope you make more video tutorials about it, thanks!
Yep definitely. Stay tuned Bro 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Great I have 700d will most def try out the magic lantern thanks
Nice one Col! Never understood why haters bother to sound off and bring the rest of us down. Thanks for taking the time to produce all this content too mate, it's invaluable to people like me. Take care matey!
Hey Pete, it makes no sense bro....it's better to just keep it moving. The community is growing fast though so there's definitely a need for a morale boost every now and again. 🙌🏾 Thanks bro
Totally agree with all you're saying here. We've been doing this long enough to see who will and who probably won't gel with the magic lantern setup. My DMs are always open to group members to ask questions, like you, I like a challenge.
Personally I would shoot a wedding or commercial content with an eosm or 700d. But I'd have a laptop with me to pull a file to see if the footage is going to work. Experience is the key here.
Posi and David are great film makers and definitely need more exposure for their talent.
I've noticed some of the ML critics tend not to be in the community group either.
Now about officialsayer in a London wooded area, in a towel. 😂
Exactly bro, we've been doing this too long now to say it can't work 🤣 boys and toy's. And yes, I believe there's lots of people in the group with enough knowledge to make it work for serious events.
Official sayer is up for anything, great guy to work with 🙌🏾
Great points! I use my as a main camera over my Sony a7s m1 and the 4K FUJIFILM X-H1.
It's an awesome camera!
Great video, mate. Well said. For me this new CROP MOOD is a game changer - I spent a weekend learning it (studied Bilal's videos & Sergio's) testing, becoming familiar with it, and of course shooting with it, and it feels rock solid, AND monitoring on my feelworld 7" works flawlessly. I was considering selling it in the past, but now I'm definitely keeping it. It produces stunning video.
Thank you and that's very good news. I'm so glad you and others are reporting success with it.
I want to learn more about ML. I like the challenge to produce good results with an older system.
If you like a challenge then ml is definitely for you 😁
"Más claro el agua..." Here at the first step of the learning curve. It was one of your vids indeed that convinced me to go with ML. I feel rarher comfortable now shooting with drones and Gopros but I felt I needed to combine that with some handheld camera that wouldn't break my bank account. I will even use it on regular drones hopefully. And for around the price of a basic blackmagic setup I now own two cameras and a variety of lenses and stuff I will need. I just need to learn how to use all of it properly 😅
(Commenting here for the algorithms and all that. One Love).
You’re amazing Cole! Great video!
Thank you so much. You're very kind.
I co-sign this completely. I think people don't understand not all projects are the same! even if you have professional cameras you won't use the same for every project, this is why most DOPs prefer to rent camera bodies. back in the day circa 2017+ I used to shoot paid music videos with the old Magic Lantern on my 5D Mark III. and I still miss that particular look even having edited footage from cameras a thousand times more expensive. also fiddling with your camera is fun, discovering a new feature for ML is exciting & people have no appreciation of how miraculous it is that a camera smaller than the palm of your hands can churn out RAW video
The Canon EOS M is a beast. From what I have seen from the various TH-cam channel over the years.
It really is
The image is crisp though! Ima see if I have a old camera I can slap it on !! This will be great for those risky shots where you can’t afford to buy a new camera
Absolutely. Perfect crash cam
Nice video man . The haters will always find a reason to pick at it. I saw some amazing work on the Nex 5N a few years back that still blows away stuff today - because the guy behind it had talent..no matter what the camera these days, it can all look 'good' online - its the cost, the features, the usability to YOU that matters.
Agreed my brother, very much. There's no time for bickering when you could be learning.
Can't agree more, u have to learn it,work with it until you master it.
Yes exactly 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I started off with magic lantern on the 600d and used it on paid shoots all the time and never had any issues.
Yes bro, that's good to hear man
Excellent video! Always in total agreement with you when you are making this type of content! I would love to see you play with the 5d mark 3 or 5d mark 2. Have you had a chance to mess with MLV on them at all?
Thanks for all your content. Colin ❤️
Thank you Kam 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Glad you made this video! Thanks and very very true!
Thank you Dominic. We gotta push eachother forward 🙌🏾
do you have a color grading tutorial for davinci that goes from the MLV app settings, exporting, and explanation of color spaces in MLV app and davinci for best results?
I am going to do something extremely basic soon...VERY BASIC 😅
I really enjoyed watching this. You already know I have four 5d Mk II cameras for the home multi-cam studio I'm building out for several new YT studios, and I'm starting to test using Magic Lantern again. I'll get back into the ML forums, and I'm curious what you think about using ML with the intention of converting it to monochrome. I really love the black and chrome version of Mad Max Fury Road and planning to test using ML to capture broad dynamic range with the intention of converting it to monochrome. Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated, as I can't recall any examples of ML used for monochrome work.
Thanks man 🙏🏾
I've never converted anything to monochrome so I have no idea. I did read up about it and apparently the colours you choose play a massive part in the whole process.
I also saw that there are specific cameras that do this too...RED has one.
Maybe try load some luts on the camera and see which ones look best.
@@AltCine thanks so much for this Cole, I'll do some research and tests, and let you know it turns out. I know the workflow may be demanding, but I'll be shooting a lot in low light and curious how I can maximise monochome dynamic range.
To me, its just not worth upgrading yet. Im using a 5D mark ii with MLV RAW and it looks so good to me even for a 15 year old camera. I use it for professional work and still get compliments on how to the footage looks. I use a 70D and Lumix G7 as B and C cams. The 70D doesnt really hold up but the 5D with MLV Raw still smokes both of them. Ironically its the oldest camera... the Lumix G7 came out in 2015.
Thanks for sharing. I definitely feel you should hold onto it if it's working for you. I spent thousands trying to find the right system for me and now I have....I'm holding on to them.
Nice one imce , the canon eos m is a beast in the right hands with the correct knowledge , keep those tips rolling 👍👍
Definitely bro, such a great little camera and all it takes is a bit of patience. Thank you 🙌🏾
All thanks to people like you putting time out to help the EOSM community, Im waiting to see Zeeks crop mood review ;)
Thanks man. I would love to see more from Zeek 🙏🏾
I use eosm magic lantern on wedding paid video the only down side is the files too big, but i can manage it
Yeah they are big. What bitrate did you use? 10bit probably would have made a lot of difference
@@AltCine I use 1080 14bit
@@AltCine i use the old build from zeek, stable that the new crop mode
Oh so you're still using Dannes build. They do work well but crop mood is amazing
@@AltCine I have issue with crop mode on HFR my screen is black but when you press the record button it will show up then black again if stop recording, do you encounter than issue?
Well said my guy. I honestly love the die hard community behind ML
Thank you bro. Yes the community is amazing 🙌🏾 always ready to help and that hasn't changed since the early days of the Facebook group...such a good place to learn.
Great Cole !! I agree with all your points 👏👏
Thank you Sergio. Much appreciated 🙌🏾
@IMCE I use canon 600D but when ever I try to shoot in Raw it does not even shoot up to 10seconds
600D? I guess you're using one of the old nightly builds. I had that on my 550D and wasn't a good experience. Assuming you're using the right card and it's working fine, you may have to drop the resolution a bit
Maybe your SD card is too slow
Can you tell me at all if ML is available for a Canon C100 mark ii, it would be interesting if they had a version for that video camera thanks and I'll be looking at joining the discord soon 👍👌
Is it just me or is Crop Mood finicky? I'm almost more comfortable on the old regular build- it seems more stable to me. Crop Mood 1080p is all zoomed in when I'm used to it being the least cropped in, but with more aliasing on Dannes build. And a lot of resolutions tell me I'll get 0 frames of recording on an 128gb/200mbs SD Sandisk. I installed Crop Mood onto an EOS M that previously had ML on it on a different SD card. I don't guess that caused my Crop Mood to get all buggy. Hopefully I'm not the only one. But everyone else is acting like it's a smoother experience. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong.Yikes.
I would start from scratch. Install crop mood again but let the timer run out to remove bootflag. Reset camera to factory settings and deep low format card.
Run the installation again.
When I first tried crop mood it acted a lot like you described and I honestly don't know if all those steps are necessary but they definitely worked for me.
Love this bro! Don’t worry and be bothered by these idiots who don’t know better. I’ve never even used or owned an Eos m or used ML but have been so intrigued for years. Just hoping one day I can get ML on my M50 and 70D I can start as well as find a EOS M is hard & I don’t wanna manual Focus everything, that’s why I wanna use my M50 & 70D. Let me know if you got any suggestions too. Oh and I just saw that Korean guys video on the group recently too!
Thank you a lot great Magic Lantern EOS M Master , respect and BR Roland Tan from Paris France
Thank you kindly 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I don’t know bro I’ve seen ML footage from the EOS M and I loved the result. Those haters have G.A.S. Too many people seem to want perfection without the effort.
I love your passion!
your info is always valuable
Thank you
Why is the 5dmk3 not being used vs the eos m? As someone who has a 5D and looking to breath new life into it rather than investing in a Eos M.. Thanks in advance!
5d3 is a beast. The Eos-M was very cheap, small and easy to get a few years ago so it got the most attention.
@@AltCine thank you! Sooooo will you design a rehousing kit for 5D please 😽😏
I'm kidding, I'm not gonna rehouse all those buttons lol
Hi! Is UHD 14 bit the sharpest in Image resolution among the modes in crop mood?
There's lots of debate on this but imo 1080 has always been the sharpest. The only reason I use UHD despite increased rolling shutter is because it doesn't crop too much and minimal aliasing and Moiré.
Where can I buy Tropic
I recently purchased a C-Mount zoom lens, and tried a 3x crop with 1080p mode. However, the record button doesn’t work. I thought something wrong with the camera and powered down and on again. Still the same record button doesn’t work issue.
But when I change to Canon 50mm f/1.8 in 3x corp with 1080p mode then the record button works. Ah it worked I thought.
Again once I change back to the C-Mount zoom lens, surprisingly still the record button doesn’t function at all. Feeling quite strange to understand how come for a normal lens the 3x is working and not for C-Mount zoom lens.
Am I doing anything wrong here?
Hi, on the 650D?
@@AltCine no it’s on EOS-M
Hmmm interesting. There's a problem with m42 adapters that have electronic connection on them and it causes weird behaviour. Does yours have electronic connection?
@@AltCine No worries, brother, manage to make it work now. Plus thanks for replying prompting.
No the C-Mount to EOS-M adapter doesn't have any electronic connection. At first I thought the same, after lots of investigation understood need to “Enable” - Release shutter w/o lens feature inside the Custom Function (C.Fn) sub-menu under one of the Settings tab.
After enabling this setting, now were able to record with the C-Mount lens, its recording like a charm.
Oh my gosh, yes of course. I read your original comment totally wrong 😔 someone on the group would have picked that up immediately.
Glad it's sorted
Bro, am planning to shoot a film on EosM / cropmood. Is this setup going to work smooth for a 5 day long shoot with no issues ??
Real talk. We have all the tools. Nothing now is beyond reach.
Absolutely 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I installed ML to my m50, i'm using firmware 2.0.2, but I'm not able to access the ML menu once it's installed.
I followed the instruction on how to install ML using the firmware update, restarted the camera when prompted, and was greeted with no change.
When I hit the menu button, it just shows the default canon menu. Pretty much everything is just the regular canon menu/ui except for when I hit the info button a few times, then it shows the ML overlay. I'm not able to control the overlay in video mode. In photo mode, I'm only able to cycle between iris and ISO using the dpad.
TLDR, ML didn't install right, I can see the overlay but can't really control anything. Unable to access ML menu.
Is this a common problem people have?
You installed it on Canon M50?
I meant to say eos M,
I found the right tutorial on installing the right build. So everything works now.
Ahhh good, I was thinking that it was a typo and was going to say it sounds like you didn't finish loading modules etc.
Cheers dude.....your vids have been very helpful
Thank you so much 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Can't find Posi's YT channel :(
Instagram
instagram.com/ohseven.productions?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
i bought my eos m just now....third video i am watching. i need help.
Bruv ... Video is SO MASSIVE and I am SO NEW. 🤣 My Gawd, mate! I understood about 25 words in this entire video and most of them had nothing to do with video.
😬
What am I getting into?
I'm scared, cuz. I'm scared.
😂✌️❤️❤️
Haha, we all gotta start somewhere. No need to be scared ..just jump in head first 😁
Ring around the rosey, pocket full of Aduroja Posi... 🎶
🤣🤣 what! Lol
Is there a crop mood for the M2 or 5D Mark two? Or is it only for the M1?
There's a fork for the M2 but it's very limited but it works. You'll have to join the Facebook group to get acces to it.
thanks bro@@AltCine
I've been using Magic Lantern since the T2i, still currently shooting with the 5D Mark III and loving it, however my dream is that Bilal's Crop Mood may one day be ported to the full frame goodness that it the 5D Mark III. Oh I'd be happier then a pig in sh*t.
Yes that would be amazing. I can only imagine how good that would be.
I'm sure he said he's working on it. Don't quote me though.
Plus you forget hwo dodgy it is to convert it isn't plug and drop and edit u need Nov editor then you export it and then you go to DaVinci or premiere or whatever you use
I love those people that say it can't be done, cause every day people come and prove them wrong. Is it perfect? Nope, cause there is no perfect camera. You have to know it's limitations and work around them. Having an IT background my EOS M is like running Linux on an computer. It's cheap, it can do lot of things very well, but you have to put in time an effort and it get's better over the years. Last but not least, I get sometimes reminded about those guys that say they can't swim cause the shorts they wearing. The camerabody contributes only a small part in the total effort...
Hey Ricky, yep I love them too...I said it makes me angry but honestly....I'm just laughing when I read the comments.
As you said, We both know that it's more than useable in the right hands....just requires knowledge.
When you film with your FX30, it's not shooting in Raw correct? But it can be graded and look as good as EOSM raw footage?
That's right, log 422 10bit. The m has a very nice texture to it but the fx30 is a lot cleaner which is to be expected.
I did a very rough comparison video a couple months ago so shouldn't be hard to find on my channel.
3:03 bmmcc is 🔥🔥
Small gem 💎
Amazing little camera. I really wish they were more affordable though.
Love your shit man, just found your channel.
Ahhh thank you man🙌🏾 I'm honoured
Did i see the new eos m lite
Yes 😁 the Rhino
@@AltCine it like the new red cam🔥🔥🔥
Yep, I took design cues from the RED V-raptor Rhino
I've been looking everywhere. can anyone tell me if ML is compatible with the eos rebel T100? regards!
I'm pretty sure it isn't. The cheapest are 100d, 650d, 700d and eos-m for crop mood. For best image quality it's the 5d2 and 5d3 but no crop mood yet.
There might be a nightly build for your camera but it will be really old and won't work well.
@IMCE immense! Thank you so much! I was getting an eyestrain searching Google with wishful thinking lol!
😅 no probs. It's all down to when the camera was released. The older ones can be hacked but canon changed the chip soon after, that's why it only runs on certain models.
I have a t3i. Got an opportunity to buy a t6i for $100. Is it worth the upgrade?
Hi, I wouldn't. If you really want the best experience it's 100D, 650D, 700D or Eos-M.
@@AltCinethanks!
I have had a lot of people saying that it destroyed their cameras, I want to use it for what it does, but I am kind of scared of ruining my DSLR.
I have used a hack before on a different type of cameras (bridge) Sx40 HS, and the hack works flawlessly however I am kind of scared of using the ML as many people warned against it, others praise it.
I have been using DSLRs for donkey's years, but, never used ML I have seen it on other people's cameras and how they made great movies with it, but, it's a bit risky, unless I throw caution to the wind and bite the bullet and do it.
@@genuine0 been playing with magic lantern since 2016 and never bricked a camera.
Maybe there is a possibility but I've used it on so many different bodies and never bricked a camera.
I want to learn about magic lantern from you.
Hi Josh, the best place to learn 8s on the Facebook group. You'll get questions answered quickly and there's tons of information already there.
Is there MagicLantern for EOS M3?
Not available for M3 I'm afraid.
@@AltCine Bummer! Is that for sure? Also, is it really advantageous to get an M3, or do you think the M is sufficient? Thanks!
@@JesseQuinnMedia yes I'm 100% sure.
I guess it depends what you want to shoot.
If you're into grading, short films etc then the M3 won't come close to ml.
If you're just recording podcasts, TH-cam vids etc then the easy workflow and non hack software will be easier to work with.
@@AltCine Thank you! Short films of the like; my problem with the M is it does not have a swivel monitor. Is there a cheap $30-40 range monitor option? Thanks!
@@JesseQuinnMedia why not try the 700 or 650D? That might suit you better.
We're bringing out a very basic 4" 1000 nit monitor for this very reason.
It's very basic but the concept is just to have a small monitor to pull focus etc that is very inexpensive.
I think ours will end up around $75
Very well said!!!!
Thank you
Don’t listen to the keyboard trolls. While most of us are out creating, they are just looking for opportunities to impress us with their lack of knowledge.
💯🙏🏾 absolutely
First of all thanks for making this amazing video .This is motivating and inspiring many people .I would like to know if magiclantern is compatible with Canon 80d
Thank you so much, you're very kind.
I don't think it's available. There might be an old nightly build but it won't be any good.
The best Camera's for magic lantern are Eos-M, 650d, 700d, 100d and 5d2 or 5d3.
@@AltCine Thanks for responginf
i've been looking for it since long time ago
but i guess it is a security setup made by Canon to avoid magiclantern use on both 80D and 5DMK4
Yes that's right. They started to change the chipset which still had vulnerability but not enough to run ML.
I was so hoping for the Canon M50 but that got abandoned very early despite the progress.
Ya so true brother REAL TALK 🤓👍
Respect bro 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I have Canon 50D super cheap camera with magic lantern it now can shoot 10, 12, 14bit, h264 some much it's amazing how many options yuo without spending money for external recorder. Down side of expensive camera it most time not in use so you basically wasting money that you can use for other more important purpose.
Please give a link to david khairul channel)
I'll add them to the info
I liked your point 👍
Is it worth buying newer version of canon EOS m mark 3 or can I buy used canon eos m 2012 and side load with magic lantern, which has better value for money ?
Only you can answer that, depends on what you want to do and if you're ready for the workflow.
@@AltCine i want to learn something new and get into filmmaking,but I dont want to spend too much ,i need better value for money
Well you can learn filmaking on any camera, even your phone. If you also want to learn colour grading then your camera should at least be 10bit. Working with raw is the best and that's why people love magic lantern.
If you want to delve into colour grading then definitely get a ML camera for budget reasons
@@AltCine thanks !! I don't have a camera phone and even phones are expensive when compared to cameras , I couldn't find eos m here in India , so can I can go with any ml supported camera available in the list , i see too many videos about canon EOS m , but not about other ml supported cameras
Ahhh ok. The Eos-M is very small and I find the 700D better to shoot with.
Eos-M is good for adapting lenses but I really like the 700d size more.
LOL I just got into argument on Reddit about this exact issue. Haterz gonna hate as my old friend used to say
Lol yep, you always run into those people who say it can't work. We've seen too many good productions to know that anything is possible.
Nice video👍👍👍 on point 👌
For the people who doubt ml or on the fence.
I've been using ML for 2.5 years now. It's great. Yes it's unstable to an extent. Like I was shooting a scene for a short. For some reason one file was not recorded, idk camera just plain old didn't record it.
But this is rare. Like very rare. Usually if something is not right you'll have error messages all over the screen. You can't miss it. I've shot like 2tb of footage in the past 6 months and can't recall ever having this issue.
For context the stock camera firmware will give you 30mbps footage that is soft and extremely hard to grade, how the fuck is that anymore professional? Give me any camera under 1500 bucks and the eos m, I'll choose the eos m, 9 times out of 10 because I know how to work with it.
Please stop pretending that ML is some kind of buggy ass program that barely functions. It's not.
Hey bro, there are some people that still doubt it because they had a bad experience but you're right 99.9% of the time it's fine.
It still has to come with caution though but once you know what you're doing it's fine.
@@AltCine I've heard some people get melons. Just bad luck that some cameras just don't work with Magic Lantern
I bough a EOS M just to run ML. I also own a Canon R6.
Nice. How are you finding it?
Vertella wins this round. great clip.
Yeah Posi is amazing and got these commercials down to tee 👌🏾
Those comments are only coming from people that believe a camera they are using out of the box will give them the cinematic look and then they are upset when they realize it is not how it works.
Be open to new or different things. Back in the days I shot with the Canon XL1s and tried things out or I bought a super 35mm adapter to make Canon fd lenses work on my Canon HV30. I also used ML with the Canon 550d for commercial work and some features were so helpful like the double exposure etc.
I also think that people should watch more content from guys like Nigel Barros or D4Darius. Because they are using quiet old cams like lumix gh3 or gh4 and creating some amazing stuff. I think they should also watch your content as well because I believe you are a very smart person and I'm really looking forward to your projects like the m-lite. Don't let these comments stress you up. Greetings from germany
Thank you my brother, this is a very intelligent comment.
What you said about them shooting with modern retail cams is so true.
I think they're the ones stuck in the past with that old mentality. It's ironic that the people using old camera's are the ones that are using them with minimal gear and using ai to fill in the gaps which I have to admit that ai based services are actually very useful.
Thank you for the comment 🙌🏾
( i know its going to take ages and rightfully so )
But imagine ML on something like the m200 and m50
Pdaf and it has 4k from the get go
Man that would actually be the best thing ever
Please create more magic lantern tutorials and issue troubleshoot... and say f*ck off those ignorants who think money is more powerful than the art of creativity