I bought this driver to WARN you! (shocking results)

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  • @RickShielsPGA
    @RickShielsPGA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +957

    Hope you enjoyed! Like if you're here before 100,000 views!!!!

    • @andytlwy
      @andytlwy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I’m here before 100 views 😂

    • @samuelbeckwith7546
      @samuelbeckwith7546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always

    • @christogher
      @christogher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andytlwy and now it's nearly 13k 16 minutes later haha

    • @eliasvine6517
      @eliasvine6517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it goes to show that you should carefully check the things you buy

    • @HADES672
      @HADES672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Once again thank you for investigating my email/concern about the F9 S. I can live with 10 yards at the moment as a new golfer

  • @ericdalgleish8987
    @ericdalgleish8987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    It’s integrity like this that makes Rick the best at what he does. It would be very easy to pander to the big brands and not rock the boat but honesty and trust is priceless.

    • @colinschmidt3475
      @colinschmidt3475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah and Rick is massive online. I’m sure it’s Cobra doing damage control as we speak.

    • @jonathancassidy90
      @jonathancassidy90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Massive shout out to @sasgolf who took this to task first and to @rick for taking up the baton. Simon did get bullied into taking down his first video but great collaboration guys 👏

    • @streetie31
      @streetie31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mizuno

    • @baldbirdgolf
      @baldbirdgolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bought this driver fully thinking it was the original one, and I bought it after watching rick's review of the original one. I feel swindled, hustled, taken the piss out of. Gonna try to get my money back but I have 0 hope of actually getting it.

    • @bartfox9187
      @bartfox9187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Speaking of integrity, has he ever given away any of the equipment for the contests ?

  • @mattburns21
    @mattburns21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is why I love that you don't partner with brands. You're so honest and show no gear of potentially upsetting brands through your honest reviews. 100% integrity and that's what we love about your channel and the pod.

  • @SASGolf
    @SASGolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +889

    Appreciate the shoutout mate and enlightening review pal! 😃

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Thanks mate! Keep doing your thing!

    • @Kylez1212
      @Kylez1212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Way to go Simon! Thank you Rick for doing this video

    • @lmc1dj
      @lmc1dj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Golfing community at its best.❤⛳👍😉

    • @bazzer1971
      @bazzer1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Simon needs to be on a podcast as over half of people who responded to your question would buy secondhand

    • @brollox
      @brollox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Watched your original video Simon and thought it was naughty of Cobra. Props to Rick for taking up the story and doing such an impartial honest assesment and highlighting the 'issue' to a wider audiance cause im sure a few people have been dupped.

  • @chrism4551
    @chrism4551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's crazy how such a small change can have a big difference. Even the ball flight looked off. Thank you for the knowledge

  • @davidyoung5274
    @davidyoung5274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video came about 6 months too late for me 😭. My wife bought me one for my 40th last July. I've barely used to due to an injury so had no clue it wasn't the original F9 that Rick had been raving about a couple of years ago. I just ran out to the garage to confirm but I knew as soon as Rick said about the different headcover. Pretty gutted to be honest, I've been waiting about 10 years to get a decent driver. It's going to annoy me every time I pull the bloody thing out my bag now...
    I won't tell the misses as she'll feel bad. Disappointing that Cobra feel the need to dupe people to turn a profit.

  • @nrjmoss
    @nrjmoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    The "was £379" sticker on the club is blatantly fraudulent and illegal. That F9s was NEVER £379 and was only on sale for £249 at Clubhouse golf. They should be ashamed of themselves for trying to con golfers who can't afford brand new top of the line drivers. If they want to bring out a cheaper driver, brand it that way. we're not mugs.

    • @squareman10
      @squareman10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It doesn't speak very well for Rick's retailer.

    • @Jblaze024
      @Jblaze024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right. Made a comment earlier that in my opinion they had too many grips and shafts and and a certain amount of the mill face. just made a cheaper version and try to sell it as a top line model

    • @dejankarius6440
      @dejankarius6440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Man here’s me thinking I made a super deal last summer but watching this makes me feel scammed, always loved Cobra but they did me dirty here

    • @josephboyle3002
      @josephboyle3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yup. Think trading standards is you have to be selling at the higher price for 3 months? Blatantly taking advantage of shoppers.

    • @John-es7zn
      @John-es7zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm abit disappointed in clubhouse golf have used them for a few years now and have bought 2 sets of irons in them years,don't get me wrong they are ligit but it is concerning that if I walked into store I would of seen that driver at a was £379 reduced to £249 and thought I was getting a bargain.thanks to Simon and Rick for highlighting these drivers

  • @scarleton2219
    @scarleton2219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It would’ve been great to see the F9S perform with its own shaft. But thanks so much for keeping us tuned in. Superb

  • @keithlakes4634
    @keithlakes4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Great Video, I really wish you would have also tested it with the stock shaft that comes with the new "S" Driver. Would of been nice to see how it would perform. I think we know what the "S" stands for now after your review.

    • @kisnazamila2972
      @kisnazamila2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @patrickbigras5232
      @patrickbigras5232 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here

    • @rafabonati7757
      @rafabonati7757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, the “s” stands for poopy 💩!

    • @Gigity1107
      @Gigity1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, good piece of detective work. But to be fair to Cobra, wasn't tested with the shaft its being sold with.

    • @memepatrol2624
      @memepatrol2624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stands for shite

  • @terrorfactoryfilms
    @terrorfactoryfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Appreciate the heads up on the differences between these two drivers, thanks Rick! Also happy that you're starting to list prices in USD too...I know it's not super difficult to go look up the conversion, but it's great that you just put it up there now next to pounds. Cheers!

  • @bazzer1971
    @bazzer1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I have no problem with company's reissuing equipment lines at lower costs, but they must tell us if it's different in any way to the original.

    • @kisnazamila2972
      @kisnazamila2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @nrjmoss
      @nrjmoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd love for Rick to do the same with American golf and the Taylormade M2. They have an SMU of that too. Would be interesting to see if that is also a con.

    • @Align500pro
      @Align500pro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is absolutely disgusting, like golfers don't spend enough, I'm shocked

    • @Pauldenverxo
      @Pauldenverxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This.

    • @jamisonscott99
      @jamisonscott99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The price usually helps lol… Example…. Golf balls lol

  • @kevinregan3224
    @kevinregan3224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    A couple of thoughts: (1) I'd be interested to see how the F9S does with the original shaft and (2) is there a 9 degree F9S model (I'm not sure I trust that dialing down the loft of a 10.5 degree driver is the same as using a 9 degree driver).

    • @phonypeeps7020
      @phonypeeps7020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was thinking the same thing about the lofts

    • @lorneg.thompson5328
      @lorneg.thompson5328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It has "usually" been shown over the years and many videos that knocking down the loft on a 10.5° head to 9° is not the same as having 2 9° heads go at it. The 10.5 head reduced will likely still spin more. Not a fair fight.
      That being said, shame on you Cobra for the deception!

    • @sckildare2772
      @sckildare2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dialling up or down the club head doesn't actually change the loft it actually just changes face and lie angle to create lower or higher launch conditions,
      but can badly effect spin axis and actually have the opposite of the desired effect especially if your changing loft to try open and close the face

    • @NickMeyer8
      @NickMeyer8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This comment needs more up votes. Seems like a questionable variable.

    • @wennlo
      @wennlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lorneg.thompson5328 on the other hand everything is going more left with the S even though the head should be more open with the loft turned down.

  • @jonathansauerschell5645
    @jonathansauerschell5645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Really interesting video, my only thought, because the F9 was 9 degrees standard and you had to adjust the F9S to get down to 9, perhaps the delofting changed the face angle (I.e open vs closed) which can impact delivered loft even if the static loft is “the same”.
    Not sure that accounts for 600 RpM and 10 yards consistently though.

    • @jhale83
      @jhale83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My thoughts exactly. I still wouldn't think it would be THAT different to be 10 yards but it's not comparing apples to apples when you have a true 9 deg head vs a 10.5 deg head adjusted down.

    • @erock1070
      @erock1070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great comment. Loft sleeves effect the face angle more so than loft. Unless he’s perfectly squaring the face back up at address will it actually play at the lower loft. Most people don’t re set the face so my guess is he just had a bit of an open face with the S model. Too much loft. Which explains the slower ball speed and more spin.

    • @plaga85
      @plaga85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would be interesting to see like 5 shot of each head with 9 and 10,5 degrees.. and see some average numbers.

    • @XxSoBeHaLLxX
      @XxSoBeHaLLxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know going down to 9° does change the face to probably 3° or 4° open so it’s quite the difference.

    • @aorkand
      @aorkand 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it might also be interesting to compare the 9 degree adjusted up to 10.5 degree

  • @robertcardozo6826
    @robertcardozo6826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bait and switch has been around for centuries. It is now part of golf! All the golf ball manufacturers due it every year. Is there any real difference, noticeable to a 15 handicap, in this years Prov1 compared to last year? I don’t think so. Some of your have shown that the average golfer can play and enjoy the game using either second hand, used clubs, or brand new package sets..I’m going back to my Ben Hogan Apex irons, 1973 edition, and persimmon driver. It’s time to enjoy the game we love and stop listening to all the hype. It’s golf! Thanks for all your fantastic work, insights and posts.

  • @andytlwy
    @andytlwy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Simon @ SAS GOLF well worth the sub - quality channel 🔥

    • @mr75204
      @mr75204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Simon

  • @jonny555ive
    @jonny555ive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Rick, this is one of the big reasons why I love your channel, YOU'RE HONEST.... no matter what. I appreciate that.
    -Jonny

  • @paulrobinson2991
    @paulrobinson2991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Well this is timely… I was seriously considering buying this online after your recent comments about picking up an older driver and recommending the F9 as great option (on the podcast I believe?). I was surprised to see it still available to buy brand new, but luckily hadn’t purchased yet.
    Thanks for the info Rick - you’ve saved me from making a big mistake!

  • @zefolantar
    @zefolantar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really appreciate your work, Rick! No matter what anyone says….you are the one to watch for honest, unbiased reviews on TH-cam. Thanks again! 🙏👍😊

  • @alains751
    @alains751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great review Rick....and shout out to SAS golf for bringing this up. Very deceiving from whoever brought up this Driver . Glad you guys are doing this.

  • @gerardkort844
    @gerardkort844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Great explanation for me lacking a minimum of 10 yards on my driver. 😄 I bought the F9-S as my driver for the last season as it was marked down from 4.000 NOK to 2799 NOK. So i paid about 232 Pounds in Norway. I like the driver, but wasn't aware the differences! Now if you'll excuse me, I will drive to my retailer and smash his head in with my F9-S.

    • @Zirion123
      @Zirion123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      buy the Speedzone, amazing driver.

    • @devincooper7821
      @devincooper7821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm only half way through this video and I'm already pissed off...

  • @BH-yk4zl
    @BH-yk4zl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Great work Rick and Simon, also you had a better shaft in the F9S for this test compared to what you get as standard so the actual F9S performance out of the shop is likely to be even worse. The helium shaft is a substandard product in comparison.

    • @franklinniesterjr3812
      @franklinniesterjr3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely right!! I think if he wouldve used it with the Helium shaft, carry distance would never had gotten past 230.

    • @JSGolfer
      @JSGolfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just to quash a bit of Misinformation here, a real UST Helium is an extremely high quality lightweight golf shaft. If the shaft in the F9S is a “made for” then your not comparing the same shaft

    • @BH-yk4zl
      @BH-yk4zl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JSGolfer thanks for that info, I would be surprised if Cobra were putting an extremely high quality shaft into a budget version of the club though……🤔

    • @mikecooke2357
      @mikecooke2357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to play devil's advocate, the S did give consistent numbers 270 carry 2500 spin . Maybe the difference would be less for a 18 handicap club golfer ??

    • @BH-yk4zl
      @BH-yk4zl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikecooke2357 Mike, I think that’s a fair point; I don’t have an issue with Cobra selling a cheaper driver, I think the issue here is the effort they have gone to to give the impression it is an F9 plus the retailer putting a “Was £379” sticker on there when it clearly never was!!

  • @davebone1104
    @davebone1104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had the exact same problem with a f9s 3 wood a few months back. Well done for calling out cobra and the retailers - (I purchased mine from Clubhouse golf in Manchester) It's sly at best.

  • @nealfreeman01
    @nealfreeman01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great job bringing this up SAS Golf! Simon is an awesome follow!

    • @charlestsai3708
      @charlestsai3708 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Credit goes where credit is due ! Good work Rick !

  • @zacharybouthillier6182
    @zacharybouthillier6182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s the Driver that was included in the F9 complete set as well I believe. TaylorMade also brought back the M4 last year, similar story, clearing out extra components maybe.

    • @daujlay
      @daujlay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're correct. I bought the Cobra F9 complete set in 2020 (from Golf Town in Canada) and my driver face is the same as the F9 S. Had no idea my driver wasn't the actual F9 until watching this video.

  • @ESikora12
    @ESikora12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It may have been suggested already, but I’d be curious to see a head to head with the original F9 in a turned down 10.5° head. Cobra did make it known that their 10.5° head on the F9 was a higher spin setup vs the 9° head, regardless of where you dial the loft sleeve to play. Still expecting original F9 to win out on ball speed with that CNC face, but I’d guess spin numbers come closer

  • @Obi_Wan_Shinobi_81
    @Obi_Wan_Shinobi_81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good on you Rick for pointing this out.
    Consequently, the original F9 (2019) can most likely be purchased used for around the same price, which is something you recently advocated for, and clearly has better performance. SO many of us appreciate you always looking out for other golfers.

  • @steven-gerrard
    @steven-gerrard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A 10.5 head turned down will give different numbers to a standard 9 degree head especially on spin.

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not from all my testing over the years it wouldn't. Even if it did (Which I don't believe it does) it would not account for such a difference in spin, ball speed and feel / sound.

    • @steven-gerrard
      @steven-gerrard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not so sure but still think 2 9 degree heads would have shown closer spin results. Either way nice to see the big brands being called out for this type of thing.

  • @michaeltabley2051
    @michaeltabley2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for supporting Simon at SAS on this one, great guy and he is my second favourite golf channel.....

  • @gregwilliams9658
    @gregwilliams9658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This makes you wonder.
    This might have been the first time a big brand has been caught doing this with an SMU product that is inferior to the previous iteration.
    I wonder if this has happened in the past and just has never been found before.

    • @minameaar1
      @minameaar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did the same thing with the AMP Cell S. I still game it but it's a completely different club to the original AMP Cell.

  • @johnalbasini6790
    @johnalbasini6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my F9 in 2020 when they had introduced the Speedzone. Got a new one for $249 U.S. I love it. People spend up to $500 every year on a new driver for a minimal increase in distance. Spend your money on a club that you will use every hole, get a good putter!

  • @Christhecommish
    @Christhecommish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Always good to know. Wonder how many purchased the S and had no idea. Just thought they were getting a great deal

    • @kisnazamila2972
      @kisnazamila2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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      He's the person I love, he's my light
      day. The way the music flows and sounds
      is extravagant and fun. Anna is
      icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
      a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
      I love NBA Anna.#垃圾

    • @jamesgoss2357
      @jamesgoss2357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me ✋🏻 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Align500pro
      @Align500pro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me...I'm absolutely fuming, I've bought clubs from them for years this is a disgrace

    • @Align500pro
      @Align500pro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesgoss2357 email them, demand a refund, it's been taken off the site

    • @jamesgoss2357
      @jamesgoss2357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Align500pro I’ve contacted them 5 times since 28th January and been told the director is dealing with the matter and to wait for him to contact me which he hasn’t yet, I’ve also spoken to cobra who basically are not interested, they said they only supply the equipment to the retailers

  • @adamboyle3331
    @adamboyle3331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick, you have 2 million subs. You run golf TH-cam. The manufacturers need you more than you need them. So keep telling the truth it will strengthen the confidence we have in you. We have enough youtubers who are nothing more than PR cheerleaders for club brands, it’s great to see you use your massive influence for good.

  • @bazza990
    @bazza990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for this Rick. I've used Clubhouse golf for £1000s worth of stuff over the years. They're just down the road. Don't think I'll bother with them anymore! Very naughty.

    • @Align500pro
      @Align500pro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Email them, both cobra and clubhouse golf, it's unbelievable, I'm getting a refund, shocking, how dare they treat us like c⛳⛳to, Iv used them forever, never again

  • @rayspooner1982
    @rayspooner1982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Cobra F9 a couple years ago based on a Rick Shiels review. I love it.

  • @michaelbeck917
    @michaelbeck917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for making everyone aware, Rick! Great video once again.

  • @JojoQuik
    @JojoQuik ปีที่แล้ว

    Youre review helped me decide on the F9 a couple of years ago, and it's been one of the best drivers I've ever played. The milling on the face is so awesome.

  • @edwardbrown6245
    @edwardbrown6245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well Rick great video…here the thing the F9 was a 9* head vs the F9s was a 10.5 ..both were set at 9..but does the 10.5 set to a 9..really a 9?

    • @cheeseballs1999
      @cheeseballs1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No and it changes the face angle when doing so.

    • @Shipwreck15151
      @Shipwreck15151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Not to mention, you’re hoping that both clubs were digitally lofted and are actually the lofts they claim. That 9 could be 8.6° and the 10.5 could be 11. Turning a 10.5 down to 9 doesn’t make it a 9, it’s still a 10.5 but you’re just delivering a different loft at impact. If Rick could actually get a 9° F9S I would be interested in seeing the data.

  • @richmeyer6316
    @richmeyer6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well… I bought this not knowing the differences. And I did find it odd that I found it brand new as well. The upside to this for me. Is I just started playing summer of 2021. So my game is far from feeling disappointed I bought this. However, as my game improves. I will definitely do my research a little more as far as finding an highly recommended/older model brand new. Love the review! Thanks Rick!

  • @danliberti5350
    @danliberti5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutly loved my f9, I went to the speedzone because a buddy gave it to me. But the difference is negligible.

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  • @yt551217
    @yt551217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God review. Thanks to you, Simon, and others for pointing this out. Buyers of “S” are getting deceived by the driver head and also getting a shaft that isn’t optimized.
    Ping, Calloway, Mizuno have good products, they don’t do this deceptive crap, and they wait a couple years before coming out with a new model that makes yours obsolete.

  • @matthewwatson3611
    @matthewwatson3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cobra's PR department must be having a bit of a stressful afternoon.

  • @onemanandhisdog
    @onemanandhisdog หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent Dude! Thanks for the research and information. I almost bought this today reduced to £175. Too good to be good

  • @samuelpatterson5926
    @samuelpatterson5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video Rick, would love to see a another review comparing two heads of the same brand but in different lofts, specifically I’m really curious what the results are when you use the loft sleeve to match the lofts like you did in this video. Is it possible that’s partially responsible for the increase in spin? Thanks again!!!

  • @Jimbo3242
    @Jimbo3242 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for doing this. Would have never know. Would have like to see a few strikes with the sold shaft. Also the 9 degree head vs 10 degree head diffence.

  • @andrewhunt9488
    @andrewhunt9488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good comparison video Rick but would of liked to see how much different it was aswel with the stock shaft it comes in for you would this of made even more difference?

    • @RickShielsPGA
      @RickShielsPGA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did hit some off camera, but its kind of pointless as the shaft was too soft for me.

    • @rtmiv2030
      @rtmiv2030 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same.

    • @andrewhunt9488
      @andrewhunt9488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RickShielsPGA fair enough thanks for the response have a great day

    • @gskeff
      @gskeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RickShielsPGA You're forgetting that Martin Borgmeier uses a regular flex 😂😂

  • @Athon08
    @Athon08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Coming from someone who played slowpitch softball on a highly competitive level, the same can be said for certain bats when a Reissuse Model comes out. Never as hot as the original and seems to fall short. The companies brings back nostalgia as a selling point without the same performance. Not only that but manufacturers made a couple bats for specific stores. Bow manufacturers do this as well with bows

  • @halberd0109
    @halberd0109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Would be interested in hearing Cobra’s rational for going forward with this somewhat questionable product. Definitely not a good look for Cobra, they were on a roll, not now.

    • @schnauzerears912
      @schnauzerears912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probbaly much cheaper to make and had the same or more gross profit in it, riding the coat tails of the original F9.

  • @lawrencegarcia1370
    @lawrencegarcia1370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the honesty and the fact that you have the stones to call out Cobra and the retailers who carry this. I love the cobra brand, still rockin ole bluey 3 wood.

  • @ronkellison9938
    @ronkellison9938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review! The only additional testing variable I would like to have seen would be to put the F9S head at 9° in the original shaft. I suspect the dispersion would have been greater and the loss of distance would have been even more noticeable compared to a real F9.

    • @hllamasiv
      @hllamasiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think that the S head in 9* would actually preform just as good as the standard 9* head since he used a 10.5* head that naturally spins more AND he lowered the loft down 1.5* which also additionally adds more spin.

  • @stephenlamb1424
    @stephenlamb1424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree I bought one of these from the same store unaware of the "s" part didn't notice the face being different until I had unwrapped it and hit some balls the store then refused to take it back as it was now used. Cobra golf website was no help with no mention anywhere of an S version. I still use this driver but would think twice about buying anything from them again !

    • @minameaar1
      @minameaar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Similar story for me with the AMP Cell S. Cobra has been doing this cheeky stuff for a few years now.

  • @jacobh9315
    @jacobh9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for the helpful insight Rick. Question - I bought the F9S irons - is there a difference between the f9 and f9s irons? The only difference I am noticing is that there is no arcoss, and it came in 5i-GW instead of 4i-GW, but the shaft (KBS tour 90) and heads seem to be identical. Any input? Is it only the woods/driver that are different?

    • @walterkerns1880
      @walterkerns1880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the driver there's no arcoss to cut down cost so it's probably the same thing with the irons

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      @kisnazamila2972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @alcurry5669
      @alcurry5669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question.

  • @mw2173
    @mw2173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the original F9 in 2020 because I saw you using it on your channel. I also have the 3/4 wood and love it

  • @czedicartist8955
    @czedicartist8955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Curious to know if you tried the F9 S with the stock UST shaft at all? I’m sure the shaft specs are different weight and torque when compared to the Hazardus shaft... Big golf fan of your channel from 🇨🇦 Cheers!

  • @DonJohnson-TheBassPlayer
    @DonJohnson-TheBassPlayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job. Still smashing my original F9 driver and F7 3 wood. They are staying in the bag for 2022.

  • @subpargolf2933
    @subpargolf2933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the honest reviews rick keep em coming!

  • @peteralison6854
    @peteralison6854 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick what can I say that has not already been said. Once again i make the point your honestly and humbleness are the reason you have a brilliant channel. 2 million subscribers; you deserve 20 million Pls keep this content coming. Stay safe Pete from Australia

  • @BatMan-oe2gh
    @BatMan-oe2gh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on Rick. The reason the tag said 379 and sale price of 249 is an old retail trick. Make you think you are getting a bargain. Oh, I saw one of your videos regarding the Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo driver, so I went and tried it out. I replaced an older Taylormade driver I had for many years. I found at age 60 and with a bad back, I could not get it out any further than 180 mts with my best hit. Average was more like 165 mts. So I took your advice, bought the Cleveland and now hitting 200+ more often than not and hitting more fairways again. So forgiving and just so nice to use. Best driver I have ever had. So thank you for your advice, and I would advise others looking for a new driver to listen to you. Cheers from Australia Mate. 👍😊

  • @liamm4316
    @liamm4316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for testing this out Rick! I have a F9 's' driver and I emailed you about it last year. It's cool to see you finally put it to the test!

  • @lauriekee10
    @lauriekee10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with @Keith Lakes, would have been interesting to try it with its own shaft

  • @portillo6040
    @portillo6040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    F9 is amazing . I bought when first came out and customized it. Still hall with it and will keep in bag for many more years

  • @JiaNaDaRen15
    @JiaNaDaRen15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this review. My local golf shop was getting reviews saying they were selling knock off clubs. People need to do their homework...

  • @zuluwarrior88
    @zuluwarrior88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again Rick….you are my trusted go to for gear info….thx.

  • @VKBKK
    @VKBKK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rick, channel like yours and SAS are great voice for consumer

  • @mattmorford7489
    @mattmorford7489 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found a new F9 with CNC face with a Helium senior shaft and Arcos on line. Just hit some golf balls today and love it. I'm going to try the shaft that came on my LTDx and see how it feels. The F9 staying in the bag. I'm about to order another one to save when the other is done. Thanks for the video on the club.

  • @jcard1100
    @jcard1100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this for Simon and his SAS Golf channel. Great content there too. Kudos for shouting him out Rick!

  • @SuperSmooze
    @SuperSmooze 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The big reason I listen and watch. Honest reviews. No hype just the facts.

  • @geoffdudley2539
    @geoffdudley2539 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure that the speedzone I have just bought online has had the same treatment!...No infinity logo on the face..wish I had seen this video before I purchased keep up the great work.

  • @Lduke32
    @Lduke32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick, this is why we subscribe and like. Don’t ever let them buy you out. Keep it real!

  • @secondhandgolf9492
    @secondhandgolf9492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my Cobra F9. Bought it in 2020 and I can’t believe how long it is!

  • @daveduncan9005
    @daveduncan9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought this driver over the winter, on sale BTW, for different reasons than wanting an F9 in the bag. I'm 65 with back problems and have been using a Callaway XR16 w/Fujikura Speeder 565 Evolution shaft (S flex). This has has been an excellent club for me with average distance of 255, using either a Callaway Supersoft or Titleist Tru Feel. I found I was having to swing too hard to get the optimum results so went searching for alternatives. In the simulator, the F9S was giving me a consistent ball flight with average distance of 245. Yes, a little less but more importantly for me, less effort for similar results. Another reason... no CNC face. I read articles that mentioned the CNC face can cause damage to the ball on mishits, due to the ridge around the perimeter of the club to accommodate the CNC insert. I'm not concerned about the difference in sound, or a 10 yard difference, or some fancy do-dad missing from the grip. I am an amateur golfer playing 30 to 40 rounds a season. I need a club that's not going to injure me every time I swing it, a club that is dependable and reliable, and a club that puts me good second shot position. That's what should matter. Also, with all the equipment that available to golfers, it behooves every one of us to research and learn about what's out there. There should be no surprises anymore. I'm looking forward to putting this club to work, come spring.

  • @GCubedProductions
    @GCubedProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the circle graphics used for comparing the distance and slims numbers. It helped show how much difference there was between the two clubs

  • @Dennistoun99
    @Dennistoun99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had the F9s since summer 2021…..it came in a Cobra F9 package set with 3w, 21o hybrid, 5-SW, milled-face putter and a bag for £999. Great deal. I knew when I unwrapped the driver it didn’t have the fancy face and the tech at the top of the grip but I didn’t care….because £999 was a great deal for the whole set and I loved the driver (still do). Still, great Video Rick 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @Align500pro
      @Align500pro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Email them, both cobra and clubhouse golf, it's unbelievable, I'm getting a refund, shocking...

  • @jimmykissane
    @jimmykissane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and a big shout out to SAS golf for bringing this to our attention. Everyone should give Simon a follow, especially for any golfer buying secondhand golf equipment.

  • @gregmarcou1705
    @gregmarcou1705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the heads up! This is the reason I like your channel "honesty"

  • @devincooper7821
    @devincooper7821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could've used this vid last summer 😐
    Happy you've shed some light onto this shady business.

  • @ShayneJellyman
    @ShayneJellyman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just went up a notch in my book mate. Well played. What a lad. Not even in the market for a driver, but when I am, ill know I can trust your advice.

  • @robertoartola9539
    @robertoartola9539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not been playing as much as before and honestly have not been able to upgrade equipment. But I surely ENJOY watching your reviews as it is an eye opener and extremely informative. Keep up the great work.

  • @pipdream46
    @pipdream46 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick gave a shout out to Simon Smith of SAS Golf at the beginning of his video. If you've never watched SAS Golf I highly recommend it. Simon has the best content on used golf clubs anywhere on TH-cam. Like Rick he gives honest and fair assessments of all types of used clubs for every level of golfer.

  • @timothyryan9441
    @timothyryan9441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t have much to add except love your videos. Thanks bro!

  • @johndavis2653
    @johndavis2653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love the way you took up the cause, and mentioned SAS as well, good on you Rick. Your honesty is why I love your reviews and naughty might be an understatement. You actually looked like you were throwing yourself off your feet a couple of times to try to get the "S" to at least get close, can't be fairer than that

  • @shawnbishop1483
    @shawnbishop1483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Especially be aware buying this second hand from Ebay or similar. Thanks Rick!!

  • @kevinspeight4664
    @kevinspeight4664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is the reason I played and STILL play cobra, but still can’t remember it being that loud. Wow!

  • @infogolfbyjoejoe9119
    @infogolfbyjoejoe9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very valuable info you show the difference from naked eyes and data in details.superb Rick ..thank you

  • @suziecorreia7064
    @suziecorreia7064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Makes me feel so much better knowing I have a brand new F9, still in the wrapper sitting in the basement. Bought it new in 2019 because of your high praise and the great price, just never got around to putting it in the bag.

  • @lx2nv
    @lx2nv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude! Wow. I bought a F8 a couple years ago. I love it so much I bought the matching set, the F8-S. I sold the F8-S driver but just looked at photos, and the face IS NOT CNC milled - but my F8 is. Crazy!

  • @lindaveronese9727
    @lindaveronese9727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a ton for the heads up.

  • @brandonmcmahan676
    @brandonmcmahan676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not planning to switch away from my Mizuno driver any time soon, but thank you for making this video!

  • @benmcal
    @benmcal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought my F9 used at the beginning of 2020 for $180 USD. Today, two years later, the price of a used F9 remains the same due to the pandemic surge in golf.
    To think that Cobra is trying to sell a "new" (worse) version of this F9"S" for slightly more than the used F9 (2019) drivers is upsetting. This move by Cobra takes advantage of the pandemic golfer who wasn't even playing golf yet when the original F9 was released. Without this kind of info from RS they'd never know the difference.
    Thank you Rick for doing the people's work!

  • @ampuzzler2317
    @ampuzzler2317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man.. Rick, you're profesionalisme are at another level for 2022. Great one 👍👍

  • @PLaTerra
    @PLaTerra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!! I will purchase one now that I’ve tried the others.

  • @realtor_bsb
    @realtor_bsb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a store special. Taylor made and Callaway have been making them for years. Taylor made used to make a non-adjustable version beginning with the RBZ to sell in budget sporting good stores. The pricing is a standard store technique, show the MSRP and mark it down to the actual selling price to make it look like a deal.

  • @patrickdoherty2879
    @patrickdoherty2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fair play to Simon for been the first person to take this to us the average golfing community and thanks Rick great and honest review.

  • @louisroberts1943
    @louisroberts1943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the F9S an hour after you released this video yesterday!! Was absolutely furious and have returned it immediately! Absolute disgrace from Cobra and Clubhouse Golf. Thanks Rick for being honest and showing the truth!

  • @ericflores4122
    @ericflores4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not looking for a new driver but appreciate this video so much! Keep hitting 💣s Brother!!

  • @richardmarseglia7361
    @richardmarseglia7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rick for the heads up. Great review.

  • @warricklawrence2057
    @warricklawrence2057 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on you Rick 👍 I've seen them in South African retail stores as well. Appreciate the fact check 👍

  • @scottpetrie4943
    @scottpetrie4943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick. I saw this and checked my f9. I’ve been had!!! I went to the retailer and told them about your video. They sheepishly noted the bait and switch and let me trade up to Callaway Rogue! I appreciate your and SAS golf’s insight! #shameoncobra

  • @miketomkinson8776
    @miketomkinson8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the honesty in the review.
    Just wish you could have named the specific retailer who is selling these clubs which are clearly designed to fool the public. It is not just ‘naughty’. It is misleading.

  • @tonyrios4552
    @tonyrios4552 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Rick - We appreciate your review and guidance.

  • @jamesgeary2382
    @jamesgeary2382 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really glad you did this review and I'm surprised there was that much difference! Great info from sas golf too. Love his channel. Cheers Rick.