Of course mate, only Indians are interested in what’s happening in Pakistan 😂 Pakistani army, the politicians and the rest of the world has clearly abandoned Pakistan for better pr for worse 😂🤣🤪
1. None of Pakistani officers’ wives/ womenfolk molested. Humood Ur Rehman report doesn’t report any such assaults. It’s an exhaustive report which is disregarded by speaker. 2. Kashmir uprising in 1947 was not indigenous. Tribal pathans were enlisted by west Pakistan to mount attack on Srinagar.
It was interesting to note - that there wasn’t a mention of the Hamidur Rehman Commision report & why it’s not been made public even after so many years.
As I said that they still are 20 years behind reckoning with all the facts. The negative effect of propaganda based historical thinking takes year to overcome.
The original instrument of accession was not lost -- even this guy ended up lying -- it's literally there in a TheWire article after the 370 revocation
Indira Gandhi did not dismiss Farooq Abdullah. In fact it was the opposite. She brought out Sheik Abdullah to mainstream again and he became the CM of J&K from 1975 to 1982. AS Dulat is on record suggesting that it was Indira Gandhi who wanted Farooq Abdullah to succeed Sheik Abdullah and pleaded him to do so. So Dr Farooq Abdullah succeeded his father when he passed away in 1982. It will probably take Pakistanis 20 more years to get it correct. Otherwise, the attempt to provide a nuanced version by Dr Rehman is very much appreciated.
The future has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with money. An engineer who has recently lynched a Muslim for transporting beef will still add to India's forex by selling software.
भाई काहे इन्हे फेमस कर देते हो यार बोल बोल के जाहिलो को जाहिल रहने दो पहले उसे हुदभोय को प्रसिद्ध कर दिया अब इन्हे भी करदो सेंसिबल सोचने लगेंगे तो डेवलप नही हो जाएंगे पोर्की
India won this war also because Pakistan started this war to take Kashmir! Did we took it? No! So we lost the war! We started all the wars and we lost all the wars! It’s time to learn lessons! But the question is are we going to???
11:00 Not entirely sure if the local population, all by themselves, revolted and “won” Aazaad Kashmir, sir. Lets not give out a biased version of the truth in such an academically brilliant platform like PIDE.
Lt. Gen. Gul Hasan records that Operation Grand Slam had bogged down. The change in command was made to enable a 'honorable' retreat for the Pakistan 12th Division.
he is deliberately adjoining tribal pathan invasion done by pakistan with abdullah unhappiness with Maharaja , he is smartly trying to join both positions as same ,
While the economy is a challenge - I believe Pakistanis should change their curriculum in schools to teach the kids the truth - in a hurry - because that’s when they will reset the clock & stop breeding hatred. It will take 20 years from the day they make those changes for Pakistan to become normal ! Nothing else will ever fix this
root cause is Islam, Islam has the basic about everything thing. Followers follow koran to the nth level of details e.g. momin vs kafir. men vs women. There can never be any tolerance towards anybody who is not a moslem.
@@FirstLast-fj1yp Yes, Muslims are above the disbelievers. However, Pakistanis should learn about how Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) signed treaties and facilitated trade with the Arab pagans. Why shouldn't we do the same with the Indian pagans? As for gender politics, the Subcontinent still suffers from some surviving remnants of the Purdah system.
@@ok00001 You are a perfect moslem. Deceive the Hindoos kafir, weaken the kafir and then kill them or convert them. That is the best interpretation and fundamental of Islam.
When Pakistan were defeated by India within 13 days and people of Pakistan think that they defeated Soviet Union when Pakistan's God USA unable to do that
90% um, um, ah, and occasionally some words. Any way, I don't know etc. Bad, pedestrian. Pretence of knowledge. Not there. Faisal waraich much much superior.This so called expert can learn a lot from warraich.
After visiting such platforms, I wonder what youth of Pakistan watches on social media 💔
Google says Pakistan watches more porn than any other nation in the world. So that should comfortably answer the above question…
@@ambarishupadhyay921 and the referene must be indian 😂😂
Lolzz
@@ambarishupadhyay921 I searched brother, According to Qoura Pakistan is not even in top 15 or 20.
Of course mate, only Indians are interested in what’s happening in Pakistan 😂 Pakistani army, the politicians and the rest of the world has clearly abandoned Pakistan for better pr for worse 😂🤣🤪
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1. None of Pakistani officers’ wives/ womenfolk molested. Humood Ur Rehman report doesn’t report any such assaults. It’s an exhaustive report which is disregarded by speaker.
2. Kashmir uprising in 1947 was not indigenous. Tribal pathans were enlisted by west Pakistan to mount attack on Srinagar.
Shahid Afridi proudly declared his grandfather died in Kashmir in 1948 & his cousin died in 2000's as jihadi
Yes it was indigenous. you should read Akbar khans and Qudrutullah Shahabs book
It was interesting to note - that there wasn’t a mention of the Hamidur Rehman Commision report & why it’s not been made public even after so many years.
As I said that they still are 20 years behind reckoning with all the facts. The negative effect of propaganda based historical thinking takes year to overcome.
The original instrument of accession was not lost -- even this guy ended up lying -- it's literally there in a TheWire article after the 370 revocation
Hamid ur Rahman report is available in the Internet, it is not that great. He is a Pakistani after all.
Indira Gandhi did not dismiss Farooq Abdullah. In fact it was the opposite. She brought out Sheik Abdullah to mainstream again and he became the CM of J&K from 1975 to 1982. AS Dulat is on record suggesting that it was Indira Gandhi who wanted Farooq Abdullah to succeed Sheik Abdullah and pleaded him to do so. So Dr Farooq Abdullah succeeded his father when he passed away in 1982.
It will probably take Pakistanis 20 more years to get it correct. Otherwise, the attempt to provide a nuanced version by Dr Rehman is very much appreciated.
Uploading such talks with slides is extremely commendable. Well-done @PIDE
Unfortunately Pakistanis find difficult to digest truth and somewhere suffering from some complex. How future would unfold only God knows it.
The future has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with money. An engineer who has recently lynched a Muslim for transporting beef will still add to India's forex by selling software.
More Indians than Pakistanis in comments of even this little known channel/talk. Just goes to show how motivated the Indians are
just goes to show how intellectually vacuous Pakistanis are while Indians are hungry for knowledge
भाई काहे इन्हे फेमस कर देते हो यार बोल बोल के
जाहिलो को जाहिल रहने दो पहले उसे हुदभोय को प्रसिद्ध कर दिया अब इन्हे भी करदो
सेंसिबल सोचने लगेंगे तो डेवलप नही हो जाएंगे पोर्की
It has to do with English
@@krisvin7761 probably. But there are still relatively a lot of people in Pakistan that know English.
Motivated with hate towards Pakistan.
India won this war also because Pakistan started this war to take Kashmir! Did we took it? No! So we lost the war! We started all the wars and we lost all the wars! It’s time to learn lessons! But the question is are we going to???
11:00 Not entirely sure if the local population, all by themselves, revolted and “won” Aazaad Kashmir, sir. Lets not give out a biased version of the truth in such an academically brilliant platform like PIDE.
I love alternative history ...
The lies hide so much truth ...
Very balanced views and facts from a Pakistani.
I wish Pakistani ruling elite will learn from this..
Jai Hind
The killings in Hyderabad was mostly by Razakaars. The same story of Tikka Khan use of force on his own civilians
Glossing over the murders by razakars in Hyderabad.
Lt. Gen. Gul Hasan records that Operation Grand Slam had bogged down. The change in command was made to enable a 'honorable' retreat for the Pakistan 12th Division.
A very interesting topic
Good
he is deliberately adjoining tribal pathan invasion done by pakistan with abdullah unhappiness with Maharaja , he is smartly trying to join both positions as same ,
While the economy is a challenge - I believe Pakistanis should change their curriculum in schools to teach the kids the truth - in a hurry - because that’s when they will reset the clock & stop breeding hatred. It will take 20 years from the day they make those changes for Pakistan to become normal !
Nothing else will ever fix this
root cause is Islam, Islam has the basic about everything thing. Followers follow koran to the nth level of details e.g. momin vs kafir. men vs women. There can never be any tolerance towards anybody who is not a moslem.
@@FirstLast-fj1yp Yes, Muslims are above the disbelievers. However, Pakistanis should learn about how Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) signed treaties and facilitated trade with the Arab pagans. Why shouldn't we do the same with the Indian pagans?
As for gender politics, the Subcontinent still suffers from some surviving remnants of the Purdah system.
@@ok00001 You are a perfect moslem. Deceive the Hindoos kafir, weaken the kafir and then kill them or convert them. That is the best interpretation and fundamental of Islam.
Very nice discussion.. 🙏
They r regular army person in local Cloth as they did in 1962
It’s in English…Not many in Pakistan are educated…..
When Pakistan were defeated by India within 13 days and people of Pakistan think that they defeated Soviet Union when Pakistan's God USA unable to do that
History is messy. From the comments it seem all of us are having an alternate history they seem to ascribe to.
12:28 copy was lost but author know everything
Only happen in Pakistan
The speaker is totally confused about the facts of the history during attack by the tribes from Pakistan.
Avoids unpalatable facts
where is the economics here
Economics is managed by Allah and IMF
90% um, um, ah, and occasionally some words. Any way, I don't know etc.
Bad, pedestrian. Pretence of knowledge. Not there.
Faisal waraich much much superior.This so called expert can learn a lot from warraich.