I walked on ice that was 1.5 inches thick and did not go through but it was this fresh black hard ice the person was talking about. I fell through ice that was 5-6” thick but it was more of a slushy rotten honeycomb type ice. The condition of the ice is just as important as the thickness. I heard one person say that ice that is honeycomb and rotten is not safe at any thickness. It is very important to know how to use your own best judgement when deciding to go out on the ice. I have done a lot of winter swimming over the years where you would break a hole in the ice to go in the water. Also the ice can be safe in one spot and not in another close by. One place I was recently, it was pretty obvious the ice was safe to walk on for one person or even a few but for a vehicle or even a snowmobile it might have still been questionable. It all depends where you are.
I have used the same method of judging if the ice is safe for twenty-five years. I load my clay pigeon launcher with a hostess twinkie and launch it as far out on to the ice as I can. Then I send my 250-pound mother in law after it wearing her high heels. So far so good.
If you check out with Wim Hof and the way ice water affects the body, I know it's very dangerous but it does not need to be deadly if our mindset is right
It makes a lot of difference if you do it all the time, analogous to doing weightlifting. You don’t try to lift, for example, a 200 pound weight when starting out. One who never does ice baths or winter swimming has to be a lot more careful about going out on the ice. I am getting well up in years and I don’t have any problem with cold water shock when going in ice water. Some young person who has never done that I bet will get cold water shock if he falls through the ice.
On lake simcoe years ago there was 10 or more inches of i ce. People were allows to park there cars and trucks on the ice. Guess what everyone thought it was safe but too many cars and trucks were parked too close and the weight force water to come slowly through the holes that were drilled close by the parking and 30 plus vehicles were under water and had to be towed out. I never will ever bring a vehicle out on the ice no matter how thick it is. Bring a snowmobile or ATV instead. So I believe no ice is safe. You have wind, maybe open water, a warm spell, a very cold spell, sketchy shoreline, always pressure cracks. Late in the season there were people that drifted miles away from broken ice on lake simcoe and had to be rescue. It was mild and it was windy and the ice broke off and drifted. If it doesn't feel good in your gut to go out or if there is any doubts don't go out. And do not get drag out there when your buddies think it is safe when you know it is not. That is how people died.
I wouldn't walk on ice close to dams or waterfalls or where a river flows into the lake . I found those spots during ice fishing are dangerous but where the fish go .
There's an easier way to tell. If the Sherp breaks through the ice, it's not safe to walk on. If the Sherp doesn't break through the ice, then it's safe! ;) I'm joking of course, stick to the guidelines!
Even 3" thick is still unsafe to go on the ice. At 4" thick it is still dangerous for more than 1 or 2 people the most to venture out on the ice on the lake or pond. At 6" of thick ice or more it is safe to go on the ice and it will hold up to 4 people who are planning for ice fishing, ice skating, or just venturing on the frozen lake or pond. Just be safe.
The condition of the ice is just as important as the thickness, whether it is fresh hard “blue” ice or honeycombing rotten ice. I have seen times I have fallen through 5 or 6 inches of ice and other times I can walk on 1 1/2 inches of ice without falling through.
I'd scratch the 4" a group of people! What if it were a group of 50! Back up and make it a small group....perhaps 4-6? That's what we fish with on 4". Why didn't you actually spud through that little pond and show us anything?
I remember this past winter walking on the ice on Lake George in upstate New York on a weekend when they had their winter carnival. It was pretty obvious the ice was safe to walk on, at least to me on that particular day, especially in the areas when you see all kinds of other people walking on it.
@itchymoche I mentioned in one of my other posts that the condition of the ice is equally if not more important than the thickness of the ice. The ice I was on in Lake George was really solid hard ice but there was one time I fell through 5-6 inches of ice while I was doing a winter swim. There is something about you got to use your own best judgement as whether the ice is safe. Sometimes you got to play things by ear. I walked on a lake recently with ice on it with springtime conditions but always stayed within 20 feet of shore and the whole time the ice appeared quite solid but I wanted to be on the safe side anyway. If you are not a winter swimmer like Wim Hof or me, you better be a lot more conservative about going out on the ice than one who is. If you do it all the time, you will not get cold water shock. Wim Hof if you ever heard of him will do winter swimming in places I won’t go such as I have seen pictures of him swimming in this milky blue glacier water in front of a glacier.
This is so boring .... It’s worse then falling through the ice .... I ice boated for some years.... Of course there’s safe ice !!!! No ice is safe is BS
I walked on ice that was 1.5 inches thick and did not go through but it was this fresh black hard ice the person was talking about. I fell through ice that was 5-6” thick but it was more of a slushy rotten honeycomb type ice. The condition of the ice is just as important as the thickness. I heard one person say that ice that is honeycomb and rotten is not safe at any thickness. It is very important to know how to use your own best judgement when deciding to go out on the ice. I have done a lot of winter swimming over the years where you would break a hole in the ice to go in the water. Also the ice can be safe in one spot and not in another close by. One place I was recently, it was pretty obvious the ice was safe to walk on for one person or even a few but for a vehicle or even a snowmobile it might have still been questionable. It all depends where you are.
You covered so many scenarios I wouldn’t even of thought to ask about. Thank you so much for sharing!:)❄️
Glad it was helpful!
I have used the same method of judging if the ice is safe for twenty-five years. I load my clay pigeon launcher with a hostess twinkie and launch it as far out on to the ice as I can. Then I send my 250-pound mother in law after it wearing her high heels. So far so good.
Hahahaha that is good!! My gf and I are on the lake trying to figure out if the ice is safe and I read this! C
4 inches of ice is plenty, my grandfather use to drive horses with 4 inches of ice
very informative, nice moustache
umm better just learn the ice formula and realize how strong ice is.
This dude is like a science teacher and I love it
If you check out with Wim Hof and the way ice water affects the body, I know it's very dangerous but it does not need to be deadly if our mindset is right
It makes a lot of difference if you do it all the time, analogous to doing weightlifting. You don’t try to lift, for example, a 200 pound weight when starting out. One who never does ice baths or winter swimming has to be a lot more careful about going out on the ice. I am getting well up in years and I don’t have any problem with cold water shock when going in ice water. Some young person who has never done that I bet will get cold water shock if he falls through the ice.
Always follow your breath.
On lake simcoe years ago there was 10 or more inches of i ce. People were allows to park there cars and trucks on the ice. Guess what everyone thought it was safe but too many cars and trucks were parked too close and the weight force water to come slowly through the holes that were drilled close by the parking and 30 plus vehicles were under water and had to be towed out. I never will ever bring a vehicle out on the ice no matter how thick it is. Bring a snowmobile or ATV instead. So I believe no ice is safe. You have wind, maybe open water, a warm spell, a very cold spell, sketchy shoreline, always pressure cracks. Late in the season there were people that drifted miles away from broken ice on lake simcoe and had to be rescue. It was mild and it was windy and the ice broke off and drifted. If it doesn't feel good in your gut to go out or if there is any doubts don't go out. And do not get drag out there when your buddies think it is safe when you know it is not. That is how people died.
You are correct. Ice has many variables and it never pays to take risks.
I wouldn't walk on ice close to dams or waterfalls or where a river flows into the lake . I found those spots during ice fishing are dangerous but where the fish go .
5-6" for me and 10" of good ice for my SxS and for a pickup I better have a good 18+,I'm one that is overly cautious.
Reasonably smart numbers I feel.
There's an easier way to tell. If the Sherp breaks through the ice, it's not safe to walk on. If the Sherp doesn't break through the ice, then it's safe! ;) I'm joking of course, stick to the guidelines!
Great video
Ice on a hockey rink is safe. It's on a solid surface. 🙃
But you can still fall down 😔
& Rick ice isn't that thick either
Nah a guy broke his leg on a divit at my rink
Even 3" thick is still unsafe to go on the ice. At 4" thick it is still dangerous for more than 1 or 2 people the most to venture out on the ice on the lake or pond. At 6" of thick ice or more it is safe to go on the ice and it will hold up to 4 people who are planning for ice fishing, ice skating, or just venturing on the frozen lake or pond. Just be safe.
The condition of the ice is just as important as the thickness, whether it is fresh hard “blue” ice or honeycombing rotten ice. I have seen times I have fallen through 5 or 6 inches of ice and other times I can walk on 1 1/2 inches of ice without falling through.
You are way off David on the thickness of safe or unsafe.
I went through ice before and it was not fun at all
good
I'd scratch the 4" a group of people! What if it were a group of 50! Back up and make it a small group....perhaps 4-6? That's what we fish with on 4". Why didn't you actually spud through that little pond and show us anything?
@@itchymoche got this.
You have alot of good points,But I disagree on saying there is no safe ice.
I remember this past winter walking on the ice on Lake George in upstate New York on a weekend when they had their winter carnival. It was pretty obvious the ice was safe to walk on, at least to me on that particular day, especially in the areas when you see all kinds of other people walking on it.
@itchymoche I mentioned in one of my other posts that the condition of the ice is equally if not more important than the thickness of the ice. The ice I was on in Lake George was really solid hard ice but there was one time I fell through 5-6 inches of ice while I was doing a winter swim. There is something about you got to use your own best judgement as whether the ice is safe. Sometimes you got to play things by ear. I walked on a lake recently with ice on it with springtime conditions but always stayed within 20 feet of shore and the whole time the ice appeared quite solid but I wanted to be on the safe side anyway. If you are not a winter swimmer like Wim Hof or me, you better be a lot more conservative about going out on the ice than one who is. If you do it all the time, you will not get cold water shock. Wim Hof if you ever heard of him will do winter swimming in places I won’t go such as I have seen pictures of him swimming in this milky blue glacier water in front of a glacier.
Just depends on a lot of variables, & common sense. I've been ice fishing for years,snowmobiling,etc.
This is so boring ....
It’s worse then falling through the ice ....
I ice boated for some years....
Of course there’s safe ice !!!!
No ice is safe is BS